first, its not there for YOU, the employee. lets get that straight and understood right off.
its there for management. they want to SEE who is doing what. yes, they are idiots; management in the US are mostly folks who can't do real work and are force to 'move up' so they become managers. in the US, in software, most manages (and workers) are indian and asian and they are used to being packed like sardines in a can. amercians are used to space and having personal space around you; europeans and especially asians don't have that cultural aspect. they are fine sitting right on top of each other, its how things were 'back home'.
management saves space since you can cram-pack more sla^H^H^Hworkers in the same amount of space.
you can SEE if they are there on time or if they are reading net.news or something. god forbid you have to check personal email or something while out in the open office environment. privacy is stripped from you. this is a message that you are a serf, you are powerless, we'll humiliate you if we want and you have nothing you can say or do about it but leave (and its quite a widespread collusion in the industry that anywhere you go, all the fucking stupid HR droids out there have bought into this madness, so you can't just change companies to avoid it. at least in the bay area).
they save money on furniture. minor savings; the bigger savings is fitting more people in the same space. 'lotsa warm bodies in seats' is mostly what ceo's want. they have zero clue; most of them. if they had to live life as we do, they'd not put up with it and yet we are forced to. yes, forced since its now industry wide (few exceptions).
mostly, though, its the statement being sent, indirectly to the employees, that you are OURS TO CONTROL and every day you walk into an 'open office' that was modeled from the early 1900's sweat shops (the main reason why unions came into existence, btw) you are reminded that you are owned and can be 'sold' if you are not a compliant little puppy dog.
some day, some really pissed off person is going to all ape-nuts on the HR folks due to being degraded like this. we are creating homegrown 'terrorists' in this way; I really do believe that if we keep going in this direction we'll have people so stressed out and feeling there's nothing left to do but take revenge. and you know, we won't learn from it and fix this problem; what we'll do is enact even MORE stricter laws since, well, 'more laws always fixes problems'.
we need unions back. we need unions for software and hardware and stem folks. I wonder how much more abuse we, as emploees, are expected to take and how much more bending over we'll do before it bubbles over and the whole thing collapses.
You're completely self-centered and care only about yourself, and couldn't give a fuck about anyone else
classic case of pot calling kettle black.
in today's corp world, this perfectly defines how a COMPANY acts. they are spoiled little fucking brats who have too much of a labor pool to pick from and think the world revolves around THEM.
I find it precious that you try to turn it around. in the history of the modern age, life has NEVER been as good for companies as it is right now. they have everything on a golden platter and they lord it over us, pretty much constantly.
I have no idea what your work life is like. maybe you are rich and you are a business owner. I suspect you are or you are of the R persuasion who thinks that all roads lead to 'business should have all the say'.
or maybe you're a republican shill trying to shift the argument in your party's direction.
but its clear as crystal; this is the golden era for corportism and if a company wants something, THEY GET IT. they get laws passed as created by their PACs and the economy is so bad that no one dares talk back to the employer.
I had an interview with them a long long time ago. I did not go past the interview. they were 'proud' to show me a thing they called the 'cone of slience' (yes, like from the old 'get smart' tv show). the way it was explained to me, heads of state and other big wigs could come in and talk freely without any risk of anyone recording or listening (one of THOSE special rooms) and they could ask the account reps for ANYTHING and if there was enough money and power behind it, they'd get that bit of work done for that client's 'firewall'.
I have no doubt that they did shady deals with ANYONE who could pay.
to me, they are traitors to humanity. actively allowing bad actors (including our own) to mess with the population and control them.
I hope there's a special hell for companies like blue coat.
I hate to break it to you, but EVERY SINGLE BATTERY from china is unsafe.
china is the problem. china has been the problem for a long time now.
we need to address the complete lack of ability for americans to sue the chinese companies if they cause us harm.
failing that, suspend all power-based electronics from china unless there is a US company that front-ends it and is liable. if people can be sued, you can bet they'll quickly address qa and build issues.
until people who build and sell these are held liable, nothing will change.
and I don't care if the battery says panasonic or samsung or sony on it. its all unsafe. its made 'to a price point, all of it, and all of the high density batteries (ie, lithium based) are unsafe.
not to mention the chargers. most of they are not safe either.
I feel very strongly about this; I was involved in a li-poly battery based project and I saw how poorly the whole thing was handled. it really woke me up and forced me to pay attention to this field.
china only wants quick money. deaths do not matter. westerns deaths - HA - they matter even less to the chinese.
we need to fight back and force them to increase their standards or hit them where it hurts, in their wallets.
I was looking for those 18650 batts for an arduino project (good for quadrapeds) and I noticed all the really scary sounding chinese brand names like ultrafire.
could the chinese - oh, I don't know - HIRE someone who speaks english as a first language and consult with them before picking stupid anglo sounding names?
whoever thought that adding the word 'fire' to a BATTERY would help sales - he needs to spend some qualty time with the same batteries for extended periods.
china simply sells the lowest quality that will still allow them to continue to sell but that is so dangerous and has no q/a that a US vendor would be sued to bankruptcy in no time flat.
thing is; you can't sue china or their companies! this is the scam. you guy some dangerous shit from amazon or ebay via chia brands and it blows up on you. who do you go after? amazon has lawyers to cover themselves. good luck with that. ebay, same thing and they'll just blame the seller, who is already on his 23rd company name, soon to 'go out of business' and restart all over again.
this is the scam. they are untouchable and they know it.
china batteries are the issue. its not about anything else but the batteries and the chargers. both are fires just waiting to happen.
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord."
I have the feeling that most bugs are produced by developers that overlook usual problems: not validating inputs is the best example. This is a well known problem, but it sill happens.
2) mob vengence upon society and riots upon the general population.
I'm all for the first one. and I'm not excited about BEING there for the 2nd one.
#1 is justice. #2 is people needing revenge. #1 would be only dangerous to those who were part of the controlling elite. #2 would be dangerous to everyone in their path.
I hope the youth, today, grows up and thinks the same thing. it would be horrible if the authoritarian spin gets planted in the next generation's minds.
a free internet will prevent that. oh right, this IS the issue; we are at risk of losing the free part (freedom) of the internet. it may very well be that we go all 1984 on ourselves and head down a darker path instead of fixing the problems.
lovely attack on my comments. but you are pretty much off-base.
yes, I'd enjoy seeing the criminals that run out government be subject to the whims of the crowd.
and that's not at all incompatible with not wanting to be in the mob's way, once that part is done and they go on a rampage of anger and violence.
perhaps you have reading comprehension issues or you are just having a bad day. if you get your fun attacking me, well, I guess that speaks to your character.
or perhaps you have other agendas you are trying to further?
when the revolution comes (and yes, its coming, no doubt about it; just don't know WHEN) these assholes will be up against the wall.
I would buy a ticket to such an event, btw.
these guys are evil fucking traitors and they will deserve any crowd justice that happens, when all hell finally breaks loose.
and yes, I am pretty sure hell will break loose, as we see no sign of any reform or change in how our government does 'business'.
I can see why they are afraid of the internet. it weakens them. it exposes them. they can't do their little (big) crimes in total darkness.
why do you THINK the governments across the world all hate the free and open public internet?
I hope we can change before the mob justice stuff happens. I don't really want to be around when the shit hits the fan. it won't be fun for anyone. but I do think its needed since we have jumped the shark and have totally lost our way.
this is one of the main reasons why older guys are avoided, for hiring, in the bay area.
when the job gets to the point where you have to be ignorant to be 'successful', then I guess maybe its better not to play anymore.
ignorant, meaning that you don't realize you're being taken advantage of and once your youthful energy is gone, you will be out here, with me, on the bench.
I'll keep your seat warm for you, while you are in mid-burnout, young man.
you can't show the world what you can do if you never get HIRED.
dumb ass.
we are complaining about the lock-out. its one thing to get underpaid. its quite another to be denied work, time after time, because you are perceived as 'too expensive, we wont insult you with our offer'.
you may be lucky. I may be unlucky, but I know a lot of people like me who have also gone long periods of time without work. its not about ability and you can't compete if you are not given the job.
I'm white, born in the US and lived in the bay area for about 25 yrs.
I work in software (when I do have a job..) and over the last 10 years or so, I'd say the ratios are more like 80-90% indian, 5-10% asian and everyone else fits into the remainder. the last 2 interviews I had, everyone I spoke to on my itinerary list was indian.
diversity. it means nothing; its just a word that somehow gets dragged out and some numbers are faked to show the right results and managers go back to hiring their own kind. sorry if that truth hurts, but its how it is and its one reason why a lot of locals are now locked out of the workforce, effectively.
I would argue NO app needs to know the level of my battery.
this is meta data. should I have to explain that to a smart guy like you?
if I'm powered from battery or ac, that is meta data. it means other things. add it up.
yes, its private and yes, its WRONG to glean that because the os allows it. the os is a piece of shit anyway and that info should not be leaked to apps.
yes, we live in a world where we now need to think and rethink about every bit of info and how it can (and will) be used against us.
this is our info and its being used against us. how is that not a privacy issue, when they used priv'd info to gain an advantage over me?
we all suspect that various social media sites (this one included) are invaded by paid shills to slant the discussion in the direction that their funders wish.
the US is definitely not above this. what's different is that its not blatant and official; but that does not mean it does not exist.
lets also remember that over the last 20 years, the media has been bought by the government in all practical terms. when wa the last time you saw a hardball question thrown to a candidate by the mainstream 'news' ? when a story about privacy or terrorism is breaking, does the news side with the gov or the people?
corporations are also 'people' now and they pay shills to tip the story balance in their favor via commentors.
this should be taught in schools; that we are bombarded by info at all directions but that most of it, sadly, is propaganda and you have to be suspicious of everything you hear and see since, well, so many agendas are out there and news isn't news anymore, its paid PR spin.
at least in china, they know this. in the US, many of us still think that news is real. many of us still think wrestling on TV is real, too (sigh).
I would add the words "ronald reagan" to that list, as well. that guy fucked us over so badly and for so long, and yet quite a lot of people see him as some kind of saint or model. the disconnect is strong, with this one, master yoda says.
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open office is there for a few reasons.
first, its not there for YOU, the employee. lets get that straight and understood right off.
its there for management. they want to SEE who is doing what. yes, they are idiots; management in the US are mostly folks who can't do real work and are force to 'move up' so they become managers. in the US, in software, most manages (and workers) are indian and asian and they are used to being packed like sardines in a can. amercians are used to space and having personal space around you; europeans and especially asians don't have that cultural aspect. they are fine sitting right on top of each other, its how things were 'back home'.
management saves space since you can cram-pack more sla^H^H^Hworkers in the same amount of space.
you can SEE if they are there on time or if they are reading net.news or something. god forbid you have to check personal email or something while out in the open office environment. privacy is stripped from you. this is a message that you are a serf, you are powerless, we'll humiliate you if we want and you have nothing you can say or do about it but leave (and its quite a widespread collusion in the industry that anywhere you go, all the fucking stupid HR droids out there have bought into this madness, so you can't just change companies to avoid it. at least in the bay area).
they save money on furniture. minor savings; the bigger savings is fitting more people in the same space. 'lotsa warm bodies in seats' is mostly what ceo's want. they have zero clue; most of them. if they had to live life as we do, they'd not put up with it and yet we are forced to. yes, forced since its now industry wide (few exceptions).
mostly, though, its the statement being sent, indirectly to the employees, that you are OURS TO CONTROL and every day you walk into an 'open office' that was modeled from the early 1900's sweat shops (the main reason why unions came into existence, btw) you are reminded that you are owned and can be 'sold' if you are not a compliant little puppy dog.
some day, some really pissed off person is going to all ape-nuts on the HR folks due to being degraded like this. we are creating homegrown 'terrorists' in this way; I really do believe that if we keep going in this direction we'll have people so stressed out and feeling there's nothing left to do but take revenge. and you know, we won't learn from it and fix this problem; what we'll do is enact even MORE stricter laws since, well, 'more laws always fixes problems'.
we need unions back. we need unions for software and hardware and stem folks. I wonder how much more abuse we, as emploees, are expected to take and how much more bending over we'll do before it bubbles over and the whole thing collapses.
You're completely self-centered and care only about yourself, and couldn't give a fuck about anyone else
classic case of pot calling kettle black.
in today's corp world, this perfectly defines how a COMPANY acts. they are spoiled little fucking brats who have too much of a labor pool to pick from and think the world revolves around THEM.
I find it precious that you try to turn it around. in the history of the modern age, life has NEVER been as good for companies as it is right now. they have everything on a golden platter and they lord it over us, pretty much constantly.
I have no idea what your work life is like. maybe you are rich and you are a business owner. I suspect you are or you are of the R persuasion who thinks that all roads lead to 'business should have all the say'.
or maybe you're a republican shill trying to shift the argument in your party's direction.
but its clear as crystal; this is the golden era for corportism and if a company wants something, THEY GET IT. they get laws passed as created by their PACs and the economy is so bad that no one dares talk back to the employer.
they ARE shady.
I had an interview with them a long long time ago. I did not go past the interview. they were 'proud' to show me a thing they called the 'cone of slience' (yes, like from the old 'get smart' tv show). the way it was explained to me, heads of state and other big wigs could come in and talk freely without any risk of anyone recording or listening (one of THOSE special rooms) and they could ask the account reps for ANYTHING and if there was enough money and power behind it, they'd get that bit of work done for that client's 'firewall'.
I have no doubt that they did shady deals with ANYONE who could pay.
to me, they are traitors to humanity. actively allowing bad actors (including our own) to mess with the population and control them.
I hope there's a special hell for companies like blue coat.
bonus points for the daria ref ;)
How entitled and spoiled you people are
'republican typing' detected.
but you didn't use enough of the magic keywords, like STEALING, and CONTENT and PIRATES.
come on. you'll get a much better troll score if you hit more of the talking points from your party.
I hate to break it to you, but EVERY SINGLE BATTERY from china is unsafe.
china is the problem. china has been the problem for a long time now.
we need to address the complete lack of ability for americans to sue the chinese companies if they cause us harm.
failing that, suspend all power-based electronics from china unless there is a US company that front-ends it and is liable. if people can be sued, you can bet they'll quickly address qa and build issues.
until people who build and sell these are held liable, nothing will change.
and I don't care if the battery says panasonic or samsung or sony on it. its all unsafe. its made 'to a price point, all of it, and all of the high density batteries (ie, lithium based) are unsafe.
not to mention the chargers. most of they are not safe either.
I feel very strongly about this; I was involved in a li-poly battery based project and I saw how poorly the whole thing was handled. it really woke me up and forced me to pay attention to this field.
china only wants quick money. deaths do not matter. westerns deaths - HA - they matter even less to the chinese.
we need to fight back and force them to increase their standards or hit them where it hurts, in their wallets.
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oh, and FUCK YOU very much.
I was looking for those 18650 batts for an arduino project (good for quadrapeds) and I noticed all the really scary sounding chinese brand names like ultrafire.
could the chinese - oh, I don't know - HIRE someone who speaks english as a first language and consult with them before picking stupid anglo sounding names?
whoever thought that adding the word 'fire' to a BATTERY would help sales - he needs to spend some qualty time with the same batteries for extended periods.
china simply sells the lowest quality that will still allow them to continue to sell but that is so dangerous and has no q/a that a US vendor would be sued to bankruptcy in no time flat.
thing is; you can't sue china or their companies! this is the scam. you guy some dangerous shit from amazon or ebay via chia brands and it blows up on you. who do you go after? amazon has lawyers to cover themselves. good luck with that. ebay, same thing and they'll just blame the seller, who is already on his 23rd company name, soon to 'go out of business' and restart all over again.
this is the scam. they are untouchable and they know it.
china batteries are the issue. its not about anything else but the batteries and the chargers. both are fires just waiting to happen.
its the 'save as...' icon, you insensitive clod.
and, those old ibm machines will never run ruby or php or visual basic.
you know, lets keep them around a bit longer, ok?
The law only applies to the little people, not her.
hey, conservative: you really want to throw rocks around glass houses?
are you SURE you want to be holier-than-thou?
you do realize, I hope, that the above quote applies to ANY and ALL in power? doesn't matter what letter is after their name.
the system is broken. 'teams' are a distraction.
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and good will shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord."
holy scriptures are funny to read.
(and yes, I do speak english.)
I have the feeling that most bugs are produced by developers that overlook usual problems: not validating inputs is the best example. This is a well known problem, but it sill happens.
well said'); drop table students;
but there are two 'events':
1) punishment for the criminals by a mob
2) mob vengence upon society and riots upon the general population.
I'm all for the first one. and I'm not excited about BEING there for the 2nd one.
#1 is justice. #2 is people needing revenge. #1 would be only dangerous to those who were part of the controlling elite. #2 would be dangerous to everyone in their path.
I don't have many heros.
but I would count snowden as one.
I hope the youth, today, grows up and thinks the same thing. it would be horrible if the authoritarian spin gets planted in the next generation's minds.
a free internet will prevent that. oh right, this IS the issue; we are at risk of losing the free part (freedom) of the internet. it may very well be that we go all 1984 on ourselves and head down a darker path instead of fixing the problems.
it could go either way. that's the scary part.
lovely attack on my comments. but you are pretty much off-base.
yes, I'd enjoy seeing the criminals that run out government be subject to the whims of the crowd.
and that's not at all incompatible with not wanting to be in the mob's way, once that part is done and they go on a rampage of anger and violence.
perhaps you have reading comprehension issues or you are just having a bad day. if you get your fun attacking me, well, I guess that speaks to your character.
or perhaps you have other agendas you are trying to further?
when the revolution comes (and yes, its coming, no doubt about it; just don't know WHEN) these assholes will be up against the wall.
I would buy a ticket to such an event, btw.
these guys are evil fucking traitors and they will deserve any crowd justice that happens, when all hell finally breaks loose.
and yes, I am pretty sure hell will break loose, as we see no sign of any reform or change in how our government does 'business'.
I can see why they are afraid of the internet. it weakens them. it exposes them. they can't do their little (big) crimes in total darkness.
why do you THINK the governments across the world all hate the free and open public internet?
I hope we can change before the mob justice stuff happens. I don't really want to be around when the shit hits the fan. it won't be fun for anyone. but I do think its needed since we have jumped the shark and have totally lost our way.
give them time.
rajiv and anil are working hard trying to fix those bugs. doing the needful and all that.
this is one of the main reasons why older guys are avoided, for hiring, in the bay area.
when the job gets to the point where you have to be ignorant to be 'successful', then I guess maybe its better not to play anymore.
ignorant, meaning that you don't realize you're being taken advantage of and once your youthful energy is gone, you will be out here, with me, on the bench.
I'll keep your seat warm for you, while you are in mid-burnout, young man.
sigh.
that's crap.
you can't show the world what you can do if you never get HIRED.
dumb ass.
we are complaining about the lock-out. its one thing to get underpaid. its quite another to be denied work, time after time, because you are perceived as 'too expensive, we wont insult you with our offer'.
you may be lucky. I may be unlucky, but I know a lot of people like me who have also gone long periods of time without work. its not about ability and you can't compete if you are not given the job.
pretty much the same experience, here.
I'm white, born in the US and lived in the bay area for about 25 yrs.
I work in software (when I do have a job..) and over the last 10 years or so, I'd say the ratios are more like 80-90% indian, 5-10% asian and everyone else fits into the remainder. the last 2 interviews I had, everyone I spoke to on my itinerary list was indian.
diversity. it means nothing; its just a word that somehow gets dragged out and some numbers are faked to show the right results and managers go back to hiring their own kind. sorry if that truth hurts, but its how it is and its one reason why a lot of locals are now locked out of the workforce, effectively.
I would argue NO app needs to know the level of my battery.
this is meta data. should I have to explain that to a smart guy like you?
if I'm powered from battery or ac, that is meta data. it means other things. add it up.
yes, its private and yes, its WRONG to glean that because the os allows it. the os is a piece of shit anyway and that info should not be leaked to apps.
yes, we live in a world where we now need to think and rethink about every bit of info and how it can (and will) be used against us.
this is our info and its being used against us. how is that not a privacy issue, when they used priv'd info to gain an advantage over me?
I'm very sure the US is NO DIFFERENT.
we all suspect that various social media sites (this one included) are invaded by paid shills to slant the discussion in the direction that their funders wish.
the US is definitely not above this. what's different is that its not blatant and official; but that does not mean it does not exist.
lets also remember that over the last 20 years, the media has been bought by the government in all practical terms. when wa the last time you saw a hardball question thrown to a candidate by the mainstream 'news' ? when a story about privacy or terrorism is breaking, does the news side with the gov or the people?
corporations are also 'people' now and they pay shills to tip the story balance in their favor via commentors.
this should be taught in schools; that we are bombarded by info at all directions but that most of it, sadly, is propaganda and you have to be suspicious of everything you hear and see since, well, so many agendas are out there and news isn't news anymore, its paid PR spin.
at least in china, they know this. in the US, many of us still think that news is real. many of us still think wrestling on TV is real, too (sigh).
no system is secure. why do you keep parroting that same thing over and over?
(fingered, mate. fwiw)
I would add the words "ronald reagan" to that list, as well. that guy fucked us over so badly and for so long, and yet quite a lot of people see him as some kind of saint or model. the disconnect is strong, with this one, master yoda says.