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State Dept. IT Staff Told To Keep Quiet About Clinton's Server (computerworld.com)
dcblogs writes this report from Computerworld: Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's decision to use a private email server ran afoul of the government's IT security and record retention requirements, according to a report by the department's inspector general released today. This use of a private email server did not go unnoticed within the Department of State's IT department. Two IT staff members who raised concerns about Clinton's use of a private server were told not to speak of it. Clinton was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013 and during that period she used a private email server in her New York home. This report by the Department of State's Inspector General about Clinton's use of a private server makes clear that rules and regulations were not followed. It says that Clinton would not have received approval for this server had she sought it. According to the current CIO, the report said, "Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs." However, the report notes, according to these officials, The Bureau of Diplomatic Security and IRM (Bureau of Information Resource Management) "did not -- and would not -- approve her exclusive reliance on a personal email account to conduct Department business, because of the restrictions in the FAM [Foreign Affairs Manual] and the security risks in doing so."
This was a clear example of security through obscurity. The server was behind a NAT protected by a Huawei router. What could go wrong?
I'm sure this stuff goes on in the private-sector as well. Only the private-sector offenders loose their jobs....
Guccifer isn't lying...
If nothing on Hillary's server was classified it should be released without redaction for full review and inspection by any party. That has not happened, and it won't happen. FOI requests regarding information on her server are denied almost as soon as they are filed.
There is no "truth" left in Government. The only option they have is to silence critics. Oh, and more circuses.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Rules and laws are for little people. Not for anyone named Clinton.
All the more reason for me not to vote for that bloated sow.
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Never mind 30 years of scandals, this email server thing shows exactly how she thinks. The law only applies to the little people, not her. What she did may have been marginally legal, but if you or I had done this we'd be sitting in jail.
I love how the lefty apologists on news radio today were trying to justify her felonious actions as "but it's what everybody did."
The 9 biggest revelations in the State IG report on Clinton's emails
The constant "news" about the illegal activity on her servers & email problems, by the time November gets here, it will be another "what difference does it make" moment. The lib media will protect her, and, given the fact that over 100 people associated with Bill & Hillary have met with untimely DEATHS, some people are probably hoping NOTHING happens to it for fear of watching their backs 24/7 ;)
Why Clintonâ(TM)s email problems are here to stay
Sorry for the repeated politico.com links. No affiliation, but I've reading my political news there lately. If you want to preserve your sanity, don't read the comments at that site.
The depressing part of all of this is that it is obvious she is guilty, but it really doesn't matter. The politically powerful, whether the Goldman Sachs or the Clintons, will always be able to get away with whatever they want. Meanwhile our prison population is overflowing with "little people" who lack the political connections necessary to be free of the ire of the Federal government. Host an illegal mail server that is easily hacked. No big deal. Actually blow the whistle on Federal crimes and corruption. To prison with you!
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by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
So she hired someone too inept to delete stuff PROPERLY. This is a bad omen.
Perhaps, though he was at least smart enough to ask for and get immunity from the FBI & DoJ to cooperate with their investigation.
It's actually quite difficult counting the number of bad omens for her we've seen.
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Politico's article is damning to Hill since they are a Left-wing news outlet.
Better at politics than tech. That describes... Pretty much everyone, actually.
They also seem to usually be pro-Clinton and anti-Sanders, but that may just be my biased view.
What _YOU_ don't realize is that plenty of us have Government experience. Considering you have a whole 3 posts attributed to your account I believe you are not an egocentric prick but much much worse.
I was going to add some stuff, but considering you are simply a shill I won't waste my time. I really wish Slashdot gave us the ability to track AC IP addresses, I'm guessing you are coming from a specific range in DC.. you know, that same one that edits Wiki pages all the time.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Hillary's business requirement was avoiding scrutiny and FOIA requests.
She got away with it for several years after leaving office too. It wasn't until researchers started asking judges why all of the secretary of state emails were missing.
So now Hillary treats it like a case of bad press stories... so she still might technically get away with it. Loretta Lynch/Obama have "discretion" over whether this gets referred to the legal system.
Most regular citizens are dumbfounded at the level of corruption and criminality. Hillary is counting on the public to get corruption fatigue by using redirection and the "everyone is doing it" defense.
Hillary Clinton failed to report several hacking attempts, grew afraid of opening emails
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
With as many secret emails went through this server, why is this woman not in prison?
Why arent we talking about a systematic audit of the politicians who are also using exceptions to the government security standard? If you dont have records, fine, audit them all. There are commercial software packages that will do this for you.
"Everyone" was not using their political office to use the subterfuge of giving speeches to foreign government and multi-nationals to enrich themselves personally in their non-profit foundation.
Most of the press and public are not seeing the huge Clinton Corruption Campaign they conducted using Hillary's private email server. But the DOJ and others are now going through those emails with a fine toothed comb.
Hillary may not get jail for a personal server, but she may get jail time for selling out the US with "special favors" in her decisions for foreign entitities from which she received "donations" in the form of both speech fees and contributions to the Clinton foundation.
It is truly mind boggling that she & Bill thought they could get away with this.
The 9 biggest revelations in the State IG report on Clinton's emails
More like highlights since most of it has been known for months. There were a couple interesting new things though.
8. The server was briefly shut down over hacking concerns
This warrants more investigation. I'm curious what "someone was trying to hack us" actually means. Any thing facing the Internet is under constant attack, assuming the person knew what they were talking about I'm curious what made this attempt more serious.
9. Clinton and her staffers worried about being hacked but didn't report to security personnel
On May 13, 2011, the IG report states that "two of Secretary Clinton’s immediate staff discussed via email the Secretary’s concern that someone was 'hacking into her email' after she received an email with a suspicious link."
Hours after that discussion, an email William Burns, the then-Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, appeared in Clinton's inbox, carrying a link to a suspect URL and nothing else in the message.
Presumably this got dropped when someone who understood computers told them that either Burns or someone who had them both as contacts caught a virus. It's a bit of a concern if they didn't bring it up with Burns though.
Honestly my opinion remains largely unchanged. Clinton is an old person who didn't really understand email or the security issues around it, she may have thought she was fine or she was bending the rules though I'm not convinced she thought it was really illegal and there doesn't seem to any evidence of Clinton being made aware this was a serious issue.
There should have been someone around her who had both the knowledge to realize she was seriously screwing up and the a position where they felt comfortable in telling her that.
It's a hit on her general competence and ability to surround herself with a good team, but I don't see it as deserving of jail time.
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I never saw the person claim it was only a problem for Hillary. You did that all by yourself. I like to point out that the whole system is corrupt too, but try to limit to when it's appropriate.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Someone else who values Fortran and PJL!
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
than all the millions of government employees who had their accounts hacked on government "secured" servers.
Sounds like incompetent IT staff were hired.
OMG we're being hacked by all these scans! Better shut the server down! Just goes to show how many incompetent IT people are out there.
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unanimously passed?
It's because there is a lot more bipartisan malfeasence out there than Clinton, and most of it is in NSA intercepted emails. They're trying to 'secure' this by ensuring all the other evidence is deleted before it can come to bite their own asses when further investigations start taking place.
I hope somebody is doing the snowden equivalent for all those intercepted emails and phone calls, because they would be helpful in the future for deciding who goes up on the gallows.
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Moron with a 7 digit UUID thinks a user with a mid-6 digit UUID is somehow a hired troll.
You seriously think I'm taking the /. account I started in the mid-90s and hiring myself out as a shill?
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But, he wiped it with a cloth! You mean that wasn't enough?
Seriously, how much does being a Clinton shill pay? I'm looking for a side gig.
Intent is not required, only gross negligence.
Damages are not required, simply allowing the classified info to end up in an unapproved place is.
Ever stop to read & consider just one of the relevant?
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They's gonna be a buncha nervous IT guys in the gov if the Hillary wins. Paraphrasing Tony Soprano, revenge is like serving cold cuts.
According to the current CIO, the report said, "Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs."
So, if they had known about it, they would have taken responsibility for securing it. I wonder if anybody ever looked at her email address? Obviously, coming from her own personal server, it wasn't on one of their State Department domains. So, either they did know and did nothing or they really are as inept as we all thought. Of course, option 3 is both are true.
Not only do we know Hillary has broken federal laws, Hillary has also started at least one war entirely on her own (Libya), and frankly in what should matter to at least Slashdot people is directly responsible for the death of an IT worker who just happened to be at the U.S. embassy in Libya when it was attacked. But I guess you don't care about him, do you? You just want Hillary to be elected, no matter the costs to the rest of us...
Meanwhile Trump has broken no federal laws, and has never started a war of any kind, and actually knows how to use things like Twitter. Do you want an imbecile technophobe who cannot even drive as president, or someone who actually knows what computers are and uses them?
Obviously if Sanders was running he would be the best choice but Queen Hillary is not going to let that happen, now is she? Her ability to block the will of the DNC primary voters is to you I am sure just another sign of how much she should be president, because female!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It doesn't matter how senile Hillary has gotten, if she broke the law she broke the law and needs to at least go to trial. They can factor in her technical inability in sentencing.
But we all know that will not happen, making a mockery of the entire notion of Secret/Top Secret.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
or they hired somebody smart enough to plant a honey pot of "deleted" files... and the ones they recovered are exactly the ones they want us to see... not the real ones
You seriously think I'm taking the /. account I started in the mid-90s and hiring myself out as a shill?
It's a Slashdot account.
Nobody gives a fuck.
I'd sell Anonymous Coward for a dollar.
She IS the government of the USA.
Can't touch dat bitch.
Does anybody have the specific text of the policies and/or laws she allegedly violated? Emotions run high on this, and therefore I'd like to see it directly from the horse's mouth (no, that's not a Carly joke).
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I'm not Hillary fan, but:
Didn't our last President use private email services, even though he was required to only use government services for official email?
How come so many people criticizing HRC aren't also mad at GWB for his using non-government servers?
After all, he deleted official Presidential emails on government servers despite the law to retain them...and he supposedly had the backups deleted too.
Why aren't these same people criticizing him? Or is that too long ago, or was he the wrong party to criticize?
Why, was Hillary's email password so super-duper complex he couldn't have guessed it? What, you think Hillary 'wipe - you mean like with a towel' Clinton, the woman Aides described as 'easily confused' came up with a password that included both upper and lower case letters, one or more digits and a punctuation mark? I bet it was something like 'Iluvhuma', 'pantsuits' or 'chelsea' - maybe even 'hillary2016'...
The policies state that the person is to leave copies of all work-related emails at the time they leave duty if using a personal/outside email system. Hillary's spokesman has maintained that if regular forwarding or CC'ing is done, then the State Department will have a copy. The "rule" didn't state the format of the copies, only that it had to be done. It seems that technically, the CC/forwarding process would comply.
Because the internal email system hiccuped, they allegedly couldn't verify if this was actually done properly.
I've never seen a clear statement on why cc/forwarding wouldn't comply. Anybody?
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you think Hillary 'wipe - you mean like with a towel' Clinton
Is this supposed to be some kind of Trump-inspired misogynist insult?
What? He's QUOTING HER. A reporter asked her if she wiped the server before allowing the FBI to see it. And she said, "What, like with a towel?"
I know, you already know that, and you're hoping that other people don't so you can pretend otherwise. Just another Shillary, trying to distract from her own words.
you think Hillary 'wipe - you mean like with a towel' Clinton
Is this supposed to be some kind of Trump-inspired misogynist insult?
What? He's QUOTING HER. A reporter asked her if she wiped the server before allowing the FBI to see it. And she said, "What, like with a towel?"
I know, you already know that, and you're hoping that other people don't so you can pretend otherwise. Just another Shillary, trying to distract from her own words.
I'm sorry if I haven't mentioned every Hillary quote out there.
I thought the poster was referencing one of Trump's debate insults.
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and it's about time. Violation of the policy is defacto violation of the law. Take her away, and her assistants too.
My pet personal "conspiracy theory" is that her server was hacked, and that's how those "crazy African/Arabs" learned about the true extent of the CIA's "The Annex" facility there. Possibly hacked by the FSU, who passed the info along to their operatives in Libya, who then used it to stir up the locals. That a weapons shipment that the CIA was trying to round up and get out of Libya was used against the CIA seems to indicate that whomever actually did this knew what was going on there. The State Department was running the whole show; it's likely there was quite a bit of info about The Annex on that server.
Just when the BYOD scenarios are becoming familiar to the IT departments, BYOS (Bring your own server) becomes the new black.
Something I have not seen is what was the top level domain on Hillary's e-mail address she was using?
Was is something official like: Hillary@state.gov (or secretary.of.state@state.gov)
Or was it unofficial like: Hillary@clinton.org (or secretary.of.state@clinton.org)
If she was using the official e-mail address, then someone in the administration of the top level domain .gov (or state.gov) would have had to be involved in redirecting the e-mail to the Clinton's private server.
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Way to instantly discredit you own post by linking to Breitbart. You consevatives really are dumber than average.
God I love left wing projection, it must be nice being able to blame all of your problems on the other side without a moment of self reflection or awareness.
A lie requires me to know that what I am saying is false... care to support that claim?
No? You lament a lack of facts from me (despite me highlighting just one law she can be convicted under)... but offer nothing yourself... this is my shocked face: :|
If you bothered to pay attention to the available facts and use your brain (I'm sure you have one, it's just atrophied a bit from lack of use), allow me to educate you:
1) True or false: Hillary is known to have had at least one spy satellite photo on her server which should have been labeled "TOP SECRET//SI//TK//NOFORN", a image which did not originate with the State Department so the original classification would apply.
2) True or false: Hillary's private email server was authorized by the State Department or another federal agency to store classified information.
3) True or false: Hillary is known to have been briefed on her requirements to properly handle classified information and signed a document confirming her acceptance of policies, including criminal penalties for violations.
Answer Key:
1) True: http://www.thedailybeast.com/a...
2) False: https://www.washingtonpost.com...
3) True: http://freebeacon.com/politics...
Given the law I cited above doesn't require 'malice' or 'intent', but simply 'gross negligence', it's not at all a stretch to suggest that Hillary was negligent with the setting up of her server that any reasonable person would expect would see classified information traverse it... and given the fact the server was not a 'proper place of custody'... per instance of classified information on her server, she could be looking at a penalty of "Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
How much does being a Hillary shill pay? I'm looking for a side job, and unlike you morons, I actually have a grasp of facts.
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30 years of alleged Hillary scandals and not a SINGLE smoking gun so far. We have 2 possibilities:
A. She is a genius criminal to never get caught
B. GOP and Fox are full of spin-shit
Occam's Razor says???
Part of it was wealth, but a bigger part was fame. A problem most people have in court is that the first interaction any of the jury has with you is seeing you sit at the defendant's table and people tend to have a bias that if you are there, you did something to deserve being there (which to be fair is an accurate bias, just not one they should have ideally). So you already have one strike against you starting out. Famous people don't have that. The jury knows them from another context and so views them more favorably initially.
Another major issue in that case was police misconduct. It is all but certain that they did indeed fabricate evidence and of course the defense was able to use that. The state did a real shit job with their case and the defense could exploit that.
As an example of something like that happening to a poor person on a small scale: My friend used to be a public defender. He had a client who had been arrested for tagging (graffiti). Kid sure as shit did it, but the cops were full of it with the arrest. They didn't see the kid do shit. They saw the graffiti, saw a kid who they figured probably did it, searched him, and found Sharpie markers and arrested him. Well, my friend got the case tossed, because the police had no reason to search him, and carrying markers isn't illegal. The state fucked up its case, so out it went.
Of course said kid was pretty stupid, did it again, but this time the cops just waited to make sure to catch him in the act. He didn't get off a second time.
Dude you just need to read more, do you just pass over those millions she made with the fake charity that has links to arms deals she did while in state? Sure where there is smoke doesn't mean there is always fire, but consistent smoke for many fucking years has to make you think?
Nothing about her being a woman, shit a female president could be as good as a black president the character is what matters! I find her and her followers are far more sexist in that respect (It's time for a woman?!?! I'm voting for her because she has my genitals!?! Somehow people think that is acceptable over "it's time for a man to do the job?", both equally the same, shouldn't come up or impact.
So instead of the barons, dukes and earls from Europe the US has Clintons, Bush and Kennedy's. I get it.
But no immunity from the CIA secret detention team when Clinton would become president. Then he'll simply get an "accident".
I'm looking for a side job, and unlike you morons, I actually have a grasp of facts.
Well then you're obviously not qualified for that job.
And while conservative fucktards all over the US get their panties in a knot over this nonsense, look what they ignore:
"US Military Uses 8-Inch Floppy Disks To Coordinate Nuclear Force Operations"
Yeah, that must be some "vast right-wing conspiracy".
How much did Crooked Hillary! pay you to try a "Squirrel!!!" distraction from her crimes?
They used the wrong kind of cloth.
My god people , you are insane ??
So you're saying he'll end up committing suicide with 3 shots to the back of the head and rolled up in a carpet?
federal pound me in the ass prison
you think Hillary 'wipe - you mean like with a towel' Clinton
Is this supposed to be some kind of Trump-inspired misogynist insult?
What? He's QUOTING HER. A reporter asked her if she wiped the server before allowing the FBI to see it. And she said, "What, like with a towel?"
I know, you already know that, and you're hoping that other people don't so you can pretend otherwise. Just another Shillary, trying to distract from her own words.
I'm sorry if I haven't mentioned every Hillary quote out there.
I thought the poster was referencing one of Trump's debate insults.
Here you are on a tech-site pontificating like you actually know what you are talking about.
Turns out, by your own admission, you are completely, totally, irrevocably, mind-numbingly "I gets my 'facts' from MSNBC," stone-cold clueless.
But you can be triggered right on cue... like a trained cat, so you have that.
"...they were told not to speak of it." And where did that order originate from? The article only indicates that it was the director of IT that told them that, but did anyone tell him to relate that order?
During Clinton's SoS tenure, the post of Inspector General was intentionally left vacant the entire time. The IG is a presidential appointee position and the OIG pointed out that the SoS IG vacancy was the longest of any of the IG posts. Had the IG been in place at that time, that official would had not allowed Clinton to exploit the private server and abuse the classification system without government oversight.
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Trump is going to win presidency. Hillary is going to win a cell in block 13.
Dude, don't bother. Narrative comes first for these people, facts are just a "nice to have". Narrative always comes first. Once in human history there was an age where people searched for "truth"... "facts".. what is "true". Now it seems the majority don't care about truth, only what they feel.. regardless of truth/facts. These same people believe the "ends justify the means" to support the Narrative, truth/facts be damned.
Just maybe that's because she only deleted personal stuff - or stuff she honestly didn't think was important. So she didn't see the need to delete it in a way that prevented recovery. That doesn't excuse using the server. It just maybe suggests that she didn't use it to intentionally compromise the security of the US - or pass US secrets to our enemies - as some Clinton haters are all too eager to assume.
The simplest explanation also makes the most sense - and all you logic hounds would agree if you weren't blinded by your politics. She used a private server because she didn't want personal emails made public in the case of an FOIA request. And given the enemies she has, an FOIA request on any flimsy pretext (yes, a non-existant 'coverup' of what went on in Benghazi is just such a pretext) was a sure thing.
None of that makes it a good idea - so sure, that's a knock against her candidacy. But it also doesn't make her Ethyl Rosenberg. Nor does that make Whitewater the equivalent of Iran/Contra. Even Ken Starr admits that - and he oughta know.
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No suicide on a park bench, found by a jogger in the early morning, just after the grass was fertilized the day before; so no reliable GSR test could be made.
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He is offering an explanation for the comments and not saying anything about you....
You have a pretty good grasp of what you are convinced are the facts, and a pretty good (if one considers belligerence good) grasp on your particular interpretation of the applicability of a snippet of law. However, of your "answer key" references:
1) links to an opinion piece, a quick scan of seemed to indicate all the links within were internal to the site. The opinion piece seemed a bit riduclous, so I didn't read it closely.
2) while true, is not necessarily irrelevant in the legal context
3) I read the linked article and while it talks a lot about archiving policy and official agencies not approving, it I didn't find anywhere it talked about "briefed on her requirements [...] confirming her acceptance of policies, including criminal penalties". Maybe you gave the wrong link. Shall I berate your so-very-confident competence for this, also?
To be clear, I am not a fan of Hillary. I don't like her perspective on many, many issues. I think the email server thing was at best idiotic on her part, and quite possibly shady in some way.
But also I can't allow such confident sounding bluster, so poorly sourced, and so poorly understood, to go go unchallenged. Seriously, even your quoting of the law that you seem to present as the official nail in the coffin of this issue is superficial and potentially irrelevant due to the definitions of the words -- words which I'm pretty sure, despite all her shortcomings, Hillary has parsed a lot more carefully than you, and your inadequate sources, have.
Good day.
The "regular" office email system was NOT designed for classified materials either: it was rather generic. (A separate system, which is not typically characterized as "email", was intended for the classified messages.)
You imply she used her Pinto to transfer goods when she could have used the company's Lexus. BUT, the company car was a actually Yugo.
The implication that her decision put info at risk is false.
In fact, the regular office email system was eventually hacked.
(Putting classified materials on the regular office email system would be a mistake also. Whether that actually happened is still an open question. Much if not all of the reported classified stuff found was retroactively classified.)
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No. He will commit suicide with 3 shots to the back of the head, roll around on the carpet, die in a park under the jurisdiction of the agency least able to investigate while leaving no blood there, and then his office and home and whatnot will be ransacked for national security purposes.
Regardless of names of containers used, some are approved for use, others are not. She made the conscious decision to use one that was not.
She also went on to delete emails which she did not have the right to destroy per the Federal Records Act and State Department rules which implement the law.
I've not made that implication, only that the content was in an unapproved location.
The fact that she and her staff did not report suspected hacking attacks though does suggest that the content may have been at risk (so there you go)... and they failed to report it as required.
The independent IG, appointed by Obama disagrees. You should try reading the report, it's pretty damning.
False. Documents which should have been labeled classified on day one, often items 'born classified' were not. We have at least one email asking a staffer to send a document in an insecure means.
I've never worked for government, nor have I ever had or sought a security clearance... yet even I know that an NSA provided satellite image starts off classified until they dither it down a bit wider distribution (so as not to show full capabilities).
You are saying Hillary Clinton, a person who was trained at least once on recognizing classified information, it's proper handling and signed a document certifying this knowledge and applicable criminal penalties... simply never knew?
Shame for her, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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Yet you can offer no counter evidence other than Clinton campaign approved talking points... we will see in the next month or two who is right... and given the IG report you keep on ignoring, it's pretty clear the degree of illegality she has committed.
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Please elaborate. Which ones?
The State Dept. server WAS hacked. They were BOTH Yugo's, so there.
The "born classified" thing is contentious and nebulous. It's not clear-cut, like an SQL WHERE clause.
That's the GOP's interpretation. She claims it was short-hand shop-talk that was misconstrued. Whether that's true or not we don't know yet; we only have 2 varying interpretations of a terse message. Your bias is showing now.
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See the IG report, it echo something seen externally... there are large windows when there are simply no emails. Are we really to believe that she didn't send/receive any emails during periods she was known not to be on vacation in a location without cellular access?
And the State Department reported that hack, didn't they? Unlike Clinton. Again, one acted in conformance with law, the other didn't.
Only if you take your thinking cap off and try to find excuses. When it comes to NSA provided spy satellite photos, it's pretty clear cut.
It's also the thinking of anyone using common sense.
Yes, nothing anyone ever says on the left says what it means... it's always out of context.
Except Hillary's credibility on this subject keeps getting called into question. She says there was nothing classified on the server, turns out there was. She said there was nothing 'marked' classified, then we find out markings are irrelevant. She said the server was fully approved and ok with current law/rules, yet the IG says otherwise. She says she turned everything over, yet we know there are windows where there are no emails. She said she was fully willing to cooperate, yet she refused to meet with the IG.
With the exception of the claim that she shouldn't have used a private server... when has she said something on this subject which has turned out to be true?
Hell, she claimed she did it only for the simplicity of carrying one device... yet email footers show windows where she was sending from multiple devices during the same times.
Bias supported by facts.
Unlike most paid Hillary shills, I can read the applicable laws & reports and make an independent judgment as to just how illegal she has been... and in the coming weeks, hopefully the FBI will not be overruled by the DoJ and you will have no choice but to finally see.
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She often used the phone. Anyhow, until somebody finds direct evidence of deletion, it's hearsay. Gaps are only curiosities, NOT direct evidence. You don't seem to know the diff.
There's been no direct evidence that her server was actually hacked during her tenure. Sorta kinda looked like is still sorta kinda. (Could have simply been a DOS or mass spam attack, based on some of the symptoms I've read about.)
Re satellite photos, the articles from reliable sources merely say that information "obtained FROM satellite photos may have made it's way" into her emails. It's indirect and speculative.
I guess I don't have common sense then. I've read her explanation of the "remove headers" event several times and it's a perfectly PLAUSIBLE explanation. We in the public don't have the actual "results" of that changed version yet, so I will give her the benefit of the doubt until it's directly proven she did something sinister.
It appears your political bias is tainting your interpretation of incomplete information. I suggest you take yoga or something to remove the bias.
That has NOT been directly proven.
That's not what happened.
You are splitting elephant hairs. 3 devices is still better than 4. And I've never seen usage stats on those to devices to see if they were common. You fill in the blanks with Fox Colored Glasses.
Table-ized A.I.
It's a darn awful shame I never reveal my full hand when discussing thing such as these, it makes it far more fun later when the less informed opt to challenge me.
Phones, plural... and the iPad.
It is acknowledged, a block of ~31,000 emails which Hillary directed to be deleted which she deemed as 'personal'. It is also acknowledged that she turned over some 55,000 pages of emails were turned over in printed form which were deemed 'work related'.
Even if we ignore the multiple demonstrably false statement she has made with regards to her server usage (most of which you ignored out right, and one you were wrong on (more on that later))... we need to trust that she was honest and turned over all work related emails.
Did she?
Reports say no:
http://www.politico.com/story/...
http://www.theguardian.com/us-...
At the very least, that's perjury given she certified that she had turned over everything... worse if the FBI's recovery attempts turn up additional work related emails which she failed to turn over... something you or I don't have access to, but that available info is supportive of and you have federal felony charges under the Federal Records Act.
Are you that confident in your use of the delete key? I'm not when 10 years per document is the potential result.
Knowing for 100% sure that they were successfully hacked is not a requirement, only that it *may* have happened. Given the emails reported by the IG, again we see Clinton and her team were negligent with regards to not reporting the potential incident.
Reliable sources not cited... seems to be a trend with you.
How much does being a Clinton shill pay? Because if you actually read up on the subject you'd know this was false, even a year ago.
And that's just an early version of the report. Again, clearly you haven't read this weeks.
Clearly not, you read as if you've spend quite a bit of time as an unsuccessful defense attorney, ie "isn't it perfectly PLAUSIBLE that my client was on the planet Mars at the time of the shooting?".
Help Brendan pay off his student loans
I wouldn't care if they went back and prosecuted Republicans OR Democrats on this behavior, *everyone* needs to be accountable. It sure would go far to show the public that government is accountable to the people and not above the law. ---------------- Hillary for Prison '16
guess the republicans have mod points today and don't like it when people point out flaws with their paragon of virtue...
You just have to ignore a bunch of facts to make your 'simple explantion' work. Talk about being blinded by politics.
They found most of the really damaging, deleted non-personal emails in the inboxes of the people she sent them to. Including the one where she directs her staff to commit a felony (remove classification markings and send).
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'