Considering that Firefox is the more common browser on Slashdot, how about doing a story about Firefox 1.5.07 fixing four separate critical heap corruption exploits and an honest to god RSA signature spoofing exploit? These stories about IE exploits comes off as pure Microsoft-hate masturbation.
OK, smarty, I will explain the difference to you. On one hand we have Firefox, which is a piece of software that is free in both senses, and you can use it, or not use it, or delete from your system, or whatever you want. On the other hand we have Internet Explorer, which is forced upon you via "leveraging," you cannot remove, and you must use because of contrived tie-ins to fundamental system functions.
If there is an exploit for Firefox, I can shrug my shoulders and use any of a dozen other browsers to look at web pages until it gets fixed. Or I can choose to continue using Firefox anyway, despite the risk. It's my choice. However, if there is an exploit in Internet Explorer, I am just plain screwed. I can't switch the goddamn thing off or remove it. Hell, there are plenty of applications and services that will gleefully launch IE of their own accord and start loading internets from God knows where, and there's no way for me to stop it. Because of Microsoft's predatory practices, I have no choice in the matter (except to abandon Windows altogether, which is also not an option -- see how all my choices have been removed?). You're damn right people are a lot more upset when exploits turn up in IE. We are required to suffer the fallout from them.
I am not prepared to waive my right to a speedy trial
That's not a right that is relevant here. The U.S. Constitution codifies a right to a speedy trial for criminal cases, not civil matters. This right exists to prevent the government from accusing you of a crime, putting you behind bars, and then delaying the proceedings until you've served 15 years (thereby circumventing your right to be tried for your crime). A civil case, on the other hand, can go on as long as either party is willing to fight.
can I counter-sue for lost time, lost wages, added stress, etc.?
Sure! Remember what I just said about dragging it out as long as you want to fight?
And you want it all to still remain at a cost of zero, I bet.
It always fries my ass when people scream about stuff like "I want to play DirectX games" but aren't willing to pay a single cent to see it happen. How do you think it can be done when you won't pay? Do you think Microsoft are magnanimously giving away DirectX technology? They aren't even giving it to their own products anymore (i.e., DX10 only for Vista).
Ah, screw it, I know I'm feeding trolls but I will go ahead and bash a few more of your idiotic statements.
Double click driver and application installs. Already happens. It's not "double-click" but just as easy. How about the lack of working uninstalls in Windows? When, oh when, will Windows have applications that actually uninstall cleanly? We've had that on Linux forever.
Currently, Google is the #1 tool that Linux admins use for tracking down errors. I can't even figure out why this is a criticism (and not, say, praise for Google). Currently Google is the #1 way Windows admins track down errors too. Why?
I have always found this descript to be most apt: "Microsoft Windows XP is a pretty good operating system, but it has a graphical interface that has been designed with utter contempt for the user."
It looks like that philosophy still prevails in Redmond.
So congratulations, guys: you won. You kept us from doing something about the problem until it was too late, and now we're going to be stuck with it.
Who is "us" exactly, and what did you propose to do? Cripple the world economy, thereby setting off mass warfare, disease, and starvation, leading to the decimation of huge numbers of people? Get off your high horse. Things are not as simple as you make them out to be. I don't disagree with evidence, that's foolish, but the interpretation of the problem and making an action decision are very complex, and people are going to disagree, especially when a lot of those people stand to lose and are trying to make sure everybody else loses instead.
Also, what did you do? Have you foregone all conveniences of modern life? No more health care, no more eating food that was transported by polluting trucks. Right? Yeah, thought so. It's not so clear-cut when it comes down to you losing out.
Yeah, maybe there is a critical problem here, but stop pretending like you have the "right" solution to it and everyone else is just being stupid.
That is exactly who you would be harming by requiring stupid crap like scanning a student ID upon entering the classroom. The bad students don't care about hearing the lecture, remember? They're not going to suddenly start caring just because you're barring them from viewing podcasts.
Me: Hey, Professor, I was sick last Wednesday and I missed class. Can I get the podcast of it so I can catch up?
Prof: Sorry, your ID wasn't scanned that day.
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I heard about this a couple of hours ago while talking online on a MUD I used to code for. The first thought I had was that the world was a lesser place without him, just like the world was reduced when Fred Rogers passed. This was a Grade-A human being, and in an odd way very important to me. Let's just say my dog's name is Bindi.
Who can enlighten me why this is still rather a niche?
Maybe you have a brain the size of this guy. I don't know. I have tried a few times in the past to set up LDAP and all the documentation is written by space-aliens as far as I can tell. I can't even penetrate the language used, let alone follow the steps prescribed.
This Fine Article is no different. After about the 3rd sentence I have no idea what is being described, because we're already talking about "a replication" but this has not been defined. It's all like that: undefined terms and references, and exhortations to read the ldap man pages if you want to understand what is going on. The man pages are also full of undefined terms and references, except they are presented in highly-compact text blocks with bad grammar.
LDAP is niche because it is so freaking impossible to figure out. That's why.
I have been itching to build a MythTV (or similar) box for a long time now, but what has always stopped me is the noise. I have tried to keep up on things like underlocking, rubber grommets, etc. for noise reduction, but even though I can successfully build a low noise PC, it is no where near the level of quiet I desire for my living room. The whirr of my Xbox is almost unbearable, and is a big reason I buy multiplatform games for the comparatively silent GameCube.
But if there is a truly quiet box on the market that provides these functions, I will gladly fork over the cash.
Cripes, what is funny about this is that I have already metmodded posts from this topic.
Anyway, when I first started in business, which was a surprisingly long time ago given what I'm about to say, the head of our company met with every new hire and, among other things, said this:
Respond to every voice-mail within one hour, and respond to every e-mail within one day.
I have always taken that as a maxim of business communication. Professionals should respond in those timeframes, or else you need to assume (a) something went wrong with the transmission (this covers a lot of professional gaffes, which is good when the person you are accusing is your client), or (b) they have been too busy to respond (which means you should "annoy" them anyway -- busy people like to be gadflied with important items), or (c) they are intentionally ignoring you, which means you should assume #1 or #2 anyway.
I bet he has heard of Gnash. I also bet that one of the 2 main reasons for Adobe spending effort on a Linux Flash player is the capabilities of Open Source Flash players. It would be quite horrible for them if Gnash surpassed the current Linux offering from Adobe in functionality. Great for users, but bad for Adobe. They would stand to rapidly lose control over the Flash platform in a big way.
(I think the 2nd reason, from an executive standpoint, that they are developing this is because if they stop short of the "credo" of Flash, that Flash content can be played anywhere, they sell fewer dev kits. Also, the growing market of dedicated gadgets that run Linux, e.g., phones, which has great potential to be a big target platform.)
what kinds of things won't be in the Linux player that are in the other players
The other players can play movies, and the Linux player...can't!
ways to give Adobe input on the Linux player
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Oh, alright, I'm only kidding. Kind of. I actually read (present tense) the Linux Flash developer blogs and at minimum what we'll be getting is a player that is vastly better than anything we've ever had before. I am just a little irked about Flash being so rotten on Linux for so long. I try to evangelize family and friends and get them to dump Windows, but Flash is a frequent deal-breaker. "Oh, Flash works like crap? Forget it then, I need YouTube and the kids are addicted to the games on Noggin and MyLittlePony." Sigh.
P.S. I never understood the reluctance of companies to go ahead and use ALSA.
Unauthorized footage is prohibited. Think of the goddam starving grips, script writers, and boom operators who you are putting out into the street because you are undercutting their livelihood with your "recordings" for "legal purposes." What a crock. If you really are "law enforcement" you should do things the right way and hire a Hollywood studio to record these things for you. Anything else is the same as shoplifting.
Seriously, you are SOL. There are definitely ways to beat this kind of thing, but you will be breaking the law and/or causing others to break the law simply by inquiring. The operators of Slashdot may even get a nice visit from the FBI if anyone posts methods for how to defeat these copy protection measures.
Welcome to the future, where due process is no obstacle to protecting media companies' profits.
All three major Blizzard properties are rip-offs of someone else's ideas. Diablo was a rip of Rogue (and all Rogue-alikes everywhere); Warcarft was a rip of Warhammer; and Starcraft was a rip of Warhammer 40,000.
Big deal, I say. It's not like Games Workshop didn't draw on others' ideas too -- Moorcock and Herbert being prime examples. A messianic god emporer? Gosh, where could that have come from? This is the way it's supposed to work. Inspiration breeds inspiration. It's not so much "your" idea as it is your little twist on all the ideas you've absorbed from other people. You don't "own" it, because the person you got your ideas from didn't "own" theirs either. This stuff's not supposed to be locked down and inaccessible. If it was, we'd never have got Warhammer or WoW or any of the rest of it.
Interesting that the timeline in the article doesn't mention Dungeons and Dragons.
Given that Games Workshop was at one time the sole importer of D&D into the UK (prior to the design of Warhammer) I think I'd be quite confident in alleging they were influenced by it.
Warhammer was very certainly influenced by D&D. The origin of Warhammer is that they wanted to cheaply clone Chainmail.
I agree that there is an imbalance in the treatment of "offenders" (civil or criminal) but that has always been the case. A black man who holds up a liquor store for $200 gets 5 years in jail, but a corporate executive who robs his company's shareholders for $40 million is likely to get no punishment at all.
However, depite that, what we do not want is a rigid legal system in which "offenders" are "reliably" punished. It is supposed to be a highly flexible system that thwarts the potential tyrrany of both Congress and the Executive. Yes, that means some defense lawyers will use this flexibility to wiggle their clients out of a tight spot, but that actually works to our general benefit. Getting a judgment against someone should be all kinds of difficult, even in a civil case.
Exactly -- standardizing package managers is completely pointless. What will probably happen in time is that, say, 'alien' matures enough and is used automatically by the desktop environment. So if you install a deb under Fedora, you don't see any difference from an rpm, it just works, because the packaging formats automatically convert.
This chipset has been a source of problems for people running Linux. I predict this move will smooth those problems out in pretty short order, because we can deal with the problem ourselves rather than wait on Intel to allocate the resources to the problem.
I think the folks at Xandros Forums would take exception to that remark. The people there tend to be extremely helpful. Granted, Xandros does more out-of-the-box than Ubuntu so the former has a smaller Howto section, but overall I'd say that fewer questions go unanswered at Xandros.
Well, I wasn't really trying to hightlight a deficiency, but let's be honest -- the support community you get from Gentoo or Ubuntu or Fedora is insanely better than than what you get with essentially any other distro. I know Xandros has its good points. A great community is not really one of them.
I know the submitter uses SuSE, and that's fine, I have no wish to sway people away from their favorite distributions. But Ubuntu is crazy delicious this way. You can post even the most newbie-ish of questions on their forums and almost always someone will help in a friendly manner in a matter of minutes. In fact many times Googling for general Linux problems will turn up solutions from ubuntuforums.org.
I think this is the "thing" that is going to be a big driver of certain distributions in the near future (as if it isn't already). I mean, you can have a distro like Linspire or Xandros where they try hard from a technical standpoint, but there's no community of helpful souls to help you out. What makes OSS go is the gift economy, and one (major) way to give back is to offer friendly technical assistance on the boards. Distros that don't "feel" like they are part of the gift economy are destined to languish. Ubuntu and Fedora seems to have communities like this, even though the vibe of each of their communities is pretty different.
Anyway, on completely different note, I kind of cringed when I saw this topic, because I expect to see a lot trolls posting anecdotes about how someone screamed at them to RTFM, how everyone is sooo hostile, and other such BS. The fact of it is that I have seen the opposite a lot more. For example, a user shows up on the boards, posts a problem involving a very rare digital camera that exeedingly few people have even heard of, and when nobody responds with a 100% solution in under an hour the user starts flaming the community for their "lack of responsiveness to problems."
Good. Now if only my local government would listen to me and stop wasting millions of dollars on MS licenses. (Their "compatibility" issue boils down to being compatible with the printer -- they always print out their stuff on letterhead and mail it through the post!)
I'd really like to see Space Opera make a comeback, but it seems unlikely with the failure of Serenity at the box office.
Whoa there! The financials for Serenity are hard to judge unless you look closely. Even though the box office take for Serenity seemed lackluster, a little inspection of the numbers reveals a different story. First, it wasn't taken seriously by the studio, who released the film in about half as many theaters as it could have -- something like 1500 theaters in the U.S. The Jodi Foster flick, Flightplan, which came out at the same time, was released in 3500 theaters. Oh, and guess what, Flightplan made twice as much money. Go figure.
Second, films with "hot" actors rarely do better than Serenity did. Miami Vice is doing roughly the same kind of box office take as Serenity ($25 million versus $20 million on the opening weekend), but -- guess what -- Vice was released in 3000 theaters. So that actually means it's only doing about 2/3 as well as Serenity. Not to mention that it cost three times as much to make Miami Vice ($135 million versus $40 million).
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OK, smarty, I will explain the difference to you. On one hand we have Firefox, which is a piece of software that is free in both senses, and you can use it, or not use it, or delete from your system, or whatever you want. On the other hand we have Internet Explorer, which is forced upon you via "leveraging," you cannot remove, and you must use because of contrived tie-ins to fundamental system functions.
If there is an exploit for Firefox, I can shrug my shoulders and use any of a dozen other browsers to look at web pages until it gets fixed. Or I can choose to continue using Firefox anyway, despite the risk. It's my choice. However, if there is an exploit in Internet Explorer, I am just plain screwed. I can't switch the goddamn thing off or remove it. Hell, there are plenty of applications and services that will gleefully launch IE of their own accord and start loading internets from God knows where, and there's no way for me to stop it. Because of Microsoft's predatory practices, I have no choice in the matter (except to abandon Windows altogether, which is also not an option -- see how all my choices have been removed?). You're damn right people are a lot more upset when exploits turn up in IE. We are required to suffer the fallout from them.
That's not a right that is relevant here. The U.S. Constitution codifies a right to a speedy trial for criminal cases, not civil matters. This right exists to prevent the government from accusing you of a crime, putting you behind bars, and then delaying the proceedings until you've served 15 years (thereby circumventing your right to be tried for your crime). A civil case, on the other hand, can go on as long as either party is willing to fight.
Sure! Remember what I just said about dragging it out as long as you want to fight?
And you want it all to still remain at a cost of zero, I bet.
It always fries my ass when people scream about stuff like "I want to play DirectX games" but aren't willing to pay a single cent to see it happen. How do you think it can be done when you won't pay? Do you think Microsoft are magnanimously giving away DirectX technology? They aren't even giving it to their own products anymore (i.e., DX10 only for Vista).
Ah, screw it, I know I'm feeding trolls but I will go ahead and bash a few more of your idiotic statements.
Double click driver and application installs. Already happens. It's not "double-click" but just as easy. How about the lack of working uninstalls in Windows? When, oh when, will Windows have applications that actually uninstall cleanly? We've had that on Linux forever.
Currently, Google is the #1 tool that Linux admins use for tracking down errors. I can't even figure out why this is a criticism (and not, say, praise for Google). Currently Google is the #1 way Windows admins track down errors too. Why?I have always found this descript to be most apt: "Microsoft Windows XP is a pretty good operating system, but it has a graphical interface that has been designed with utter contempt for the user."
It looks like that philosophy still prevails in Redmond.
So congratulations, guys: you won. You kept us from doing something about the problem until it was too late, and now we're going to be stuck with it.
Who is "us" exactly, and what did you propose to do? Cripple the world economy, thereby setting off mass warfare, disease, and starvation, leading to the decimation of huge numbers of people? Get off your high horse. Things are not as simple as you make them out to be. I don't disagree with evidence, that's foolish, but the interpretation of the problem and making an action decision are very complex, and people are going to disagree, especially when a lot of those people stand to lose and are trying to make sure everybody else loses instead.
Also, what did you do? Have you foregone all conveniences of modern life? No more health care, no more eating food that was transported by polluting trucks. Right? Yeah, thought so. It's not so clear-cut when it comes down to you losing out.
Yeah, maybe there is a critical problem here, but stop pretending like you have the "right" solution to it and everyone else is just being stupid.
That is exactly who you would be harming by requiring stupid crap like scanning a student ID upon entering the classroom. The bad students don't care about hearing the lecture, remember? They're not going to suddenly start caring just because you're barring them from viewing podcasts.
Me: Hey, Professor, I was sick last Wednesday and I missed class. Can I get the podcast of it so I can catch up?
Prof: Sorry, your ID wasn't scanned that day.
I heard about this a couple of hours ago while talking online on a MUD I used to code for. The first thought I had was that the world was a lesser place without him, just like the world was reduced when Fred Rogers passed. This was a Grade-A human being, and in an odd way very important to me. Let's just say my dog's name is Bindi.
Good luck, Steve.
Maybe you have a brain the size of this guy. I don't know. I have tried a few times in the past to set up LDAP and all the documentation is written by space-aliens as far as I can tell. I can't even penetrate the language used, let alone follow the steps prescribed.
This Fine Article is no different. After about the 3rd sentence I have no idea what is being described, because we're already talking about "a replication" but this has not been defined. It's all like that: undefined terms and references, and exhortations to read the ldap man pages if you want to understand what is going on. The man pages are also full of undefined terms and references, except they are presented in highly-compact text blocks with bad grammar.
LDAP is niche because it is so freaking impossible to figure out. That's why.
I have been itching to build a MythTV (or similar) box for a long time now, but what has always stopped me is the noise. I have tried to keep up on things like underlocking, rubber grommets, etc. for noise reduction, but even though I can successfully build a low noise PC, it is no where near the level of quiet I desire for my living room. The whirr of my Xbox is almost unbearable, and is a big reason I buy multiplatform games for the comparatively silent GameCube.
But if there is a truly quiet box on the market that provides these functions, I will gladly fork over the cash.
Cripes, what is funny about this is that I have already metmodded posts from this topic.
Anyway, when I first started in business, which was a surprisingly long time ago given what I'm about to say, the head of our company met with every new hire and, among other things, said this:
Respond to every voice-mail within one hour, and respond to every e-mail within one day.
I have always taken that as a maxim of business communication. Professionals should respond in those timeframes, or else you need to assume (a) something went wrong with the transmission (this covers a lot of professional gaffes, which is good when the person you are accusing is your client), or (b) they have been too busy to respond (which means you should "annoy" them anyway -- busy people like to be gadflied with important items), or (c) they are intentionally ignoring you, which means you should assume #1 or #2 anyway.
I bet he has heard of Gnash. I also bet that one of the 2 main reasons for Adobe spending effort on a Linux Flash player is the capabilities of Open Source Flash players. It would be quite horrible for them if Gnash surpassed the current Linux offering from Adobe in functionality. Great for users, but bad for Adobe. They would stand to rapidly lose control over the Flash platform in a big way.
(I think the 2nd reason, from an executive standpoint, that they are developing this is because if they stop short of the "credo" of Flash, that Flash content can be played anywhere, they sell fewer dev kits. Also, the growing market of dedicated gadgets that run Linux, e.g., phones, which has great potential to be a big target platform.)
The other players can play movies, and the Linux player...can't!
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Oh, alright, I'm only kidding. Kind of. I actually read (present tense) the Linux Flash developer blogs and at minimum what we'll be getting is a player that is vastly better than anything we've ever had before. I am just a little irked about Flash being so rotten on Linux for so long. I try to evangelize family and friends and get them to dump Windows, but Flash is a frequent deal-breaker. "Oh, Flash works like crap? Forget it then, I need YouTube and the kids are addicted to the games on Noggin and MyLittlePony." Sigh.
P.S. I never understood the reluctance of companies to go ahead and use ALSA.
Unauthorized footage is prohibited. Think of the goddam starving grips, script writers, and boom operators who you are putting out into the street because you are undercutting their livelihood with your "recordings" for "legal purposes." What a crock. If you really are "law enforcement" you should do things the right way and hire a Hollywood studio to record these things for you. Anything else is the same as shoplifting.
Seriously, you are SOL. There are definitely ways to beat this kind of thing, but you will be breaking the law and/or causing others to break the law simply by inquiring. The operators of Slashdot may even get a nice visit from the FBI if anyone posts methods for how to defeat these copy protection measures.
Welcome to the future, where due process is no obstacle to protecting media companies' profits.
All three major Blizzard properties are rip-offs of someone else's ideas. Diablo was a rip of Rogue (and all Rogue-alikes everywhere); Warcarft was a rip of Warhammer; and Starcraft was a rip of Warhammer 40,000.
Big deal, I say. It's not like Games Workshop didn't draw on others' ideas too -- Moorcock and Herbert being prime examples. A messianic god emporer? Gosh, where could that have come from? This is the way it's supposed to work. Inspiration breeds inspiration. It's not so much "your" idea as it is your little twist on all the ideas you've absorbed from other people. You don't "own" it, because the person you got your ideas from didn't "own" theirs either. This stuff's not supposed to be locked down and inaccessible. If it was, we'd never have got Warhammer or WoW or any of the rest of it.
Warhammer was very certainly influenced by D&D. The origin of Warhammer is that they wanted to cheaply clone Chainmail.
I agree that there is an imbalance in the treatment of "offenders" (civil or criminal) but that has always been the case. A black man who holds up a liquor store for $200 gets 5 years in jail, but a corporate executive who robs his company's shareholders for $40 million is likely to get no punishment at all.
However, depite that, what we do not want is a rigid legal system in which "offenders" are "reliably" punished. It is supposed to be a highly flexible system that thwarts the potential tyrrany of both Congress and the Executive. Yes, that means some defense lawyers will use this flexibility to wiggle their clients out of a tight spot, but that actually works to our general benefit. Getting a judgment against someone should be all kinds of difficult, even in a civil case.
Shyeah. It was Wayne Campbell, douchebag.
Exactly -- standardizing package managers is completely pointless. What will probably happen in time is that, say, 'alien' matures enough and is used automatically by the desktop environment. So if you install a deb under Fedora, you don't see any difference from an rpm, it just works, because the packaging formats automatically convert.
Now you can get headshot and called gay even faster by bunnyhopping, wallhacking, aimbotting, attention-deficient 13-year-olds. Sign me up!
This chipset has been a source of problems for people running Linux. I predict this move will smooth those problems out in pretty short order, because we can deal with the problem ourselves rather than wait on Intel to allocate the resources to the problem.
Well, I wasn't really trying to hightlight a deficiency, but let's be honest -- the support community you get from Gentoo or Ubuntu or Fedora is insanely better than than what you get with essentially any other distro. I know Xandros has its good points. A great community is not really one of them.
I know the submitter uses SuSE, and that's fine, I have no wish to sway people away from their favorite distributions. But Ubuntu is crazy delicious this way. You can post even the most newbie-ish of questions on their forums and almost always someone will help in a friendly manner in a matter of minutes. In fact many times Googling for general Linux problems will turn up solutions from ubuntuforums.org.
I think this is the "thing" that is going to be a big driver of certain distributions in the near future (as if it isn't already). I mean, you can have a distro like Linspire or Xandros where they try hard from a technical standpoint, but there's no community of helpful souls to help you out. What makes OSS go is the gift economy, and one (major) way to give back is to offer friendly technical assistance on the boards. Distros that don't "feel" like they are part of the gift economy are destined to languish. Ubuntu and Fedora seems to have communities like this, even though the vibe of each of their communities is pretty different.
Anyway, on completely different note, I kind of cringed when I saw this topic, because I expect to see a lot trolls posting anecdotes about how someone screamed at them to RTFM, how everyone is sooo hostile, and other such BS. The fact of it is that I have seen the opposite a lot more. For example, a user shows up on the boards, posts a problem involving a very rare digital camera that exeedingly few people have even heard of, and when nobody responds with a 100% solution in under an hour the user starts flaming the community for their "lack of responsiveness to problems."
Good. Now if only my local government would listen to me and stop wasting millions of dollars on MS licenses. (Their "compatibility" issue boils down to being compatible with the printer -- they always print out their stuff on letterhead and mail it through the post!)
I'd really like to see Space Opera make a comeback, but it seems unlikely with the failure of Serenity at the box office.
Whoa there! The financials for Serenity are hard to judge unless you look closely. Even though the box office take for Serenity seemed lackluster, a little inspection of the numbers reveals a different story. First, it wasn't taken seriously by the studio, who released the film in about half as many theaters as it could have -- something like 1500 theaters in the U.S. The Jodi Foster flick, Flightplan, which came out at the same time, was released in 3500 theaters. Oh, and guess what, Flightplan made twice as much money. Go figure.
Second, films with "hot" actors rarely do better than Serenity did. Miami Vice is doing roughly the same kind of box office take as Serenity ($25 million versus $20 million on the opening weekend), but -- guess what -- Vice was released in 3000 theaters. So that actually means it's only doing about 2/3 as well as Serenity. Not to mention that it cost three times as much to make Miami Vice ($135 million versus $40 million).
Sheesh, how about a working link?
You can go straight to the Apple home page and see it.