I have to agree. Harrassment in any form, is harrassment. The original poster uses the telephone analogy. What about the US Postal Service? The same law applies to the letters you get. If you tell anyone to stop contacting you, and they continue, thats harrassement. And its not at 3 am, so it provides a better analogy. Free speech is needed, but when free speech become harmfull, its no longer free speech and should not be protected. Those on the internet who use blogs and other forms of communications, i.e. Usenet, to post harrassing messages, are confusing it with free speech.
Many times when I try to hunt down a subnet owner from log informatin, the email contacts on just the subnet owners are incorrect and get bounced back. Its no surprise the internet is becomming a slum.
LOL, excellent point for Leno. I wonder how many other law suits this grandma has filed. I bet she wasted her retirement money at the casino and needs new income. I hope she faces charges for deliqency of a minor.
Your about to enter a fight with another person. You have a knife, and they have a gun. Who will win? Not fair? Well this is what the spammers are doing. They are setting the rules, and we have to use the rules against them. If they take any legal action, then they have to expose themselves and become open to further legal action against them.
Thank god for baby night. And now that mine is almost three, he is in gymnastics where once a month we drop him off for several hours of energy burn with other kids and we just go out and try a new resteraunt.
Whats the difference between free speech and hate crimes? When it incites violence. What is your definition of a hate crime? If you don't have one then you defend the KKK right to tell people to drag, hang, and murder black people.
Since you know their IP and can track down their ISP, if their language and post were severe, then maybe you can report them for hate crimes to their ISP? It would certainly get the ISP's attention and maybe get their account canceled.
Most of these spammers are con artist going back to the mid 80s boiler room stock market scams. If someone just did a background check for outstanding warrants, I would bet there is a good chance of finding them. That could give cause to go in an arrest them since we know where they are.
I sometimes ponder if anyone has thought about taking the Spamhaus top ten list and making it into a hit list.
It would stand to reason that the 80/20 rule could apply. Kill the top 20% of the spammers and we could eliminate 80% of the spam.
Its kind of hard to burn bridges that were not built to start with.
Really, the best revenge is ignorance. Give him two weeks notice and thats it. Nothing more. Don't tell him why you are leaving or where you are going or anything. The only thing he needs to know is you are quitting and he has been given his legal two weeks notice. Not knowing anything will likely kill him. Unfortunately he will also pester your coworkers about it, but since they don't know anything either, it will continue to grind his goat.
This way if any future employers do talk to your current employer, they can only get your side of the discussion. Your current employer will have nothing to offer. Besides, legally they can't give out negative information, injuring your chances at a new job.
Ignorance can be blissfull or painful. Its how you use it.
Lightning hit. When I worked for a consultant, one of the clients got hit by lightning. 20 of 25 computers, file server, almost every printer, two hubs and a UPS, were all toast. And most were on surge protectors. Those last five failed at some point in the next 12 months and when we opene them we found the scorch marks on components that were missed the first time.
Worst part of it was their insurance company said it was not covered, even as an act of god because not every computer had a surge protector. They changed their insurance fast.
I won't name the faire, but will only say its the only profitable faire of the five total the corp owns. Even so they had trouble paying with cash or much of anything.
I had been doing computer work for some time and they had been paying me a combination of cash and comp tickets. But finally they ran out of comp tickets and they wanted to keep the records off the book to keep corp hq happy. So they letme have the run of the gift shop and I walked away with a car full of stuff, literally.
If you pick them up used on ebay. I got my IIIxe for $30 and a brand new keyboard for the palm for $10. Add the shipping and I spent $50 for small compact device to record my trip. I made sure I kept spare set of batteries and when I returned I just downloaded the Notes I took and did the final edit.
I remember when Spamcop was purchased and the company that purchased them also makes the hardware sold to spammers. Its too much work to find it but I know it was in the news.
So the company was working both sides of the fence. Because of that, it sounds like the company is being sued by one of it own customers, IF anyone can confirm the spammer is a customer of Spamcop's parent company. This would almost sound like a conflict of interest in that your selling to the guy suing you.
So this really is not a surprise, as Spamcop's parent company likely knew that someday they would be in this legal position.
So, this could make clothing huh? I wonder if it could turn the jacket into one big neon light? Or maybe turn my back in a billboard and I could rent the space to someone. It sure puts a new light (yea pun intended) to making that Tron outfit seen in an earlier article.
Whoever created this idea wasn't thinking about public safety, they were thinking revenue. Just because the light changes faster won't make the driver stop. If the driver is speeding and in a hurry they are going to blow the red light whenever it changes. This means that drivers who would have stopped for a read light with a longer yellow will not and that means they are going to run the intersection and slam into the person who got the green light. This can only lead to increased accidents at those intersections.
Take it from someone whose wife was slammed into by those running red lights, 4 times in 5 years in the pathetic state of Illinois.
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Our company has had this technology installed in our building for over 2 years.
I have to agree. Harrassment in any form, is harrassment. The original poster uses the telephone analogy. What about the US Postal Service? The same law applies to the letters you get. If you tell anyone to stop contacting you, and they continue, thats harrassement. And its not at 3 am, so it provides a better analogy. Free speech is needed, but when free speech become harmfull, its no longer free speech and should not be protected. Those on the internet who use blogs and other forms of communications, i.e. Usenet, to post harrassing messages, are confusing it with free speech.
Your absolutely, 100% correct when you say that Ebay is not a law enforcement agency. Which is why people should stop using Ebay. I did.
Many times when I try to hunt down a subnet owner from log informatin, the email contacts on just the subnet owners are incorrect and get bounced back. Its no surprise the internet is becomming a slum.
I heard a rumor that someone is inventing a data processing machine that will analyze information. I think they are nicknaming it 'computer'.
LOL, excellent point for Leno. I wonder how many other law suits this grandma has filed. I bet she wasted her retirement money at the casino and needs new income. I hope she faces charges for deliqency of a minor.
I left my look of shock and simpathy at home.
Ok now everyone start humming the Queen hit...
"Another one bites the dust"
"The trouble begins when you want to add things to it...(due to) the brittle nature of the platform, when you do that, other things break.'"
Well thats true of any OS. Install something wrong and it breaks the whole thing. A classic case of the pot calling the kettle black.
Your about to enter a fight with another person. You have a knife, and they have a gun. Who will win? Not fair? Well this is what the spammers are doing. They are setting the rules, and we have to use the rules against them. If they take any legal action, then they have to expose themselves and become open to further legal action against them.
... stick to internet shopping and don't patronize the stores with flaky sensors.
Nuff said.
Read www.techtales.com. It shows there is always someone dumber.
Thank god for baby night. And now that mine is almost three, he is in gymnastics where once a month we drop him off for several hours of energy burn with other kids and we just go out and try a new resteraunt.
Whats the difference between free speech and hate crimes? When it incites violence. What is your definition of a hate crime? If you don't have one then you defend the KKK right to tell people to drag, hang, and murder black people.
Nice going whitey!
Since you know their IP and can track down their ISP, if their language and post were severe, then maybe you can report them for hate crimes to their ISP? It would certainly get the ISP's attention and maybe get their account canceled.
Most of these spammers are con artist going back to the mid 80s boiler room stock market scams. If someone just did a background check for outstanding warrants, I would bet there is a good chance of finding them. That could give cause to go in an arrest them since we know where they are.
I sometimes ponder if anyone has thought about taking the Spamhaus top ten list and making it into a hit list.
It would stand to reason that the 80/20 rule could apply. Kill the top 20% of the spammers and we could eliminate 80% of the spam.
Oh, excuse we, did I just say that out loud?
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Its kind of hard to burn bridges that were not built to start with.
Really, the best revenge is ignorance. Give him two weeks notice and thats it. Nothing more. Don't tell him why you are leaving or where you are going or anything. The only thing he needs to know is you are quitting and he has been given his legal two weeks notice. Not knowing anything will likely kill him. Unfortunately he will also pester your coworkers about it, but since they don't know anything either, it will continue to grind his goat.
This way if any future employers do talk to your current employer, they can only get your side of the discussion. Your current employer will have nothing to offer. Besides, legally they can't give out negative information, injuring your chances at a new job.
Ignorance can be blissfull or painful. Its how you use it.
Lightning hit. When I worked for a consultant, one of the clients got hit by lightning. 20 of 25 computers, file server, almost every printer, two hubs and a UPS, were all toast. And most were on surge protectors. Those last five failed at some point in the next 12 months and when we opene them we found the scorch marks on components that were missed the first time.
Worst part of it was their insurance company said it was not covered, even as an act of god because not every computer had a surge protector. They changed their insurance fast.
Damn, clicked the wrong thing. How do I delete my own message?
My time is more valuble doing something productive, instead of wasting it cleaning virus, spyware, and spam zombies.
I won't name the faire, but will only say its the only profitable faire of the five total the corp owns. Even so they had trouble paying with cash or much of anything.
I had been doing computer work for some time and they had been paying me a combination of cash and comp tickets. But finally they ran out of comp tickets and they wanted to keep the records off the book to keep corp hq happy. So they letme have the run of the gift shop and I walked away with a car full of stuff, literally.
If you pick them up used on ebay. I got my IIIxe for $30 and a brand new keyboard for the palm for $10. Add the shipping and I spent $50 for small compact device to record my trip. I made sure I kept spare set of batteries and when I returned I just downloaded the Notes I took and did the final edit.
I remember when Spamcop was purchased and the company that purchased them also makes the hardware sold to spammers. Its too much work to find it but I know it was in the news.
So the company was working both sides of the fence. Because of that, it sounds like the company is being sued by one of it own customers, IF anyone can confirm the spammer is a customer of Spamcop's parent company. This would almost sound like a conflict of interest in that your selling to the guy suing you.
So this really is not a surprise, as Spamcop's parent company likely knew that someday they would be in this legal position.
So, this could make clothing huh? I wonder if it could turn the jacket into one big neon light? Or maybe turn my back in a billboard and I could rent the space to someone. It sure puts a new light (yea pun intended) to making that Tron outfit seen in an earlier article.
Whoever created this idea wasn't thinking about public safety, they were thinking revenue. Just because the light changes faster won't make the driver stop. If the driver is speeding and in a hurry they are going to blow the red light whenever it changes. This means that drivers who would have stopped for a read light with a longer yellow will not and that means they are going to run the intersection and slam into the person who got the green light. This can only lead to increased accidents at those intersections.
Take it from someone whose wife was slammed into by those running red lights, 4 times in 5 years in the pathetic state of Illinois.