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Most Fun Way to Leave a Bad Job?

medscaper asks: "I have an awesome opportunity this morning. Since the market is opening up, I was offered a great new tech job over the weekend, and have been stuck in a miserable one for the past several years. I spend more time stressing out and anxious about keeping my job than getting any quality work done. I'm SO looking forward to walking into my boss's office this morning to let him know that I'll be leaving. I'm tempted to do it with style, especially because I got a (completely unwarranted) PHB-style threatening lecture last week about my work habits. I really don't need the recommendation or a reference, so it doesn't matter much how I leave. Should I politely give the standard 2-weeks? Or should I have a little fun with it and burn some bridges? Anyone have any stories to relate?"

371 comments

  1. Leave the Fight Club way by Crazy+Ukrainian · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fight your boss, or better yet, if he has a 'private' office, kick the shit out of yourself and make him call security, and make it look like he beat you when you told him you'd be leaving.

    1. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Directrix1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, you could do that. Or you could go a step further and: replace everyone's desktop with a bitmap image of their desktop (of course I like to make a batch file that runs at startup and just continuously renames the desktop so icons disappear and reappear), sign up the companys mailing lists to as many spam lists as you can find, jam pencil leads in the dollar slot of the vending machines, wd-40 his break pads, leave sexually harassing notes for your coworkers from your boss, and eat all the good donuts in the breakroom. Of course if you had a single neuron in that skull of yours you would not have the audacity to assume that you're new job is going to work out. Assume for just one moment that maybe having options to fall back on is a good thing. Now quit posting to slashdot and decide something for yourself. I think you know the answer already.

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    2. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, like what happened in FIght Club, i loved that sceene, it was hillarious

    3. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by n9hmg · · Score: 1

      wd-40 his break pad
      Isn't his "break pad" where he takes his breaks with the cute AA? It's probably so slippery with K-Y already that a little WD-40 wouldn't make any difference... now, some heavy grease on the brake pads on his car... that'd be something.

    4. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You folk wonder why jobs are outsourced?

    5. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Welcome to Slashdot! Any time you need to come back here use keyword "slashdot". Your AOL account will not be charged extra.

    6. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Paul+d'Aoust · · Score: 1

      what does K-Y mean? I did a Google search, and the only slippery thing I could find was http://www.lemonjelly.ky/ -- a website that apparently doesn't involve real lemon jelly... I think it's a band or something.

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    7. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by WebCrapper · · Score: 1

      I've actually done the whole desktop bitmap image thing and its pretty funny. It usually stumps the IT people for awhile, or in my case - until Ghost gets done ;-) I hated that supervisor anyway - he lost a lot of pr0n that day.

    8. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by PerspexAvenger · · Score: 2, Informative

      KY Jelly

      It's a sex lube, among other things.

    9. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by MrResistor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course if you had a single neuron in that skull of yours you would not have the audacity to assume that you're new job is going to work out. Assume for just one moment that maybe having options to fall back on is a good thing.

      I couldn't agree more. Even if you don't need the reference for this new job, most prospective employers want to be able to contact at least your last 2 or 3 employers, and it's not unusual for companies to ask for a complete work history going back as far as 7-10 years, with non-working time accounted for.

      Thinking you don't need the reference is, at best, naive.

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    10. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by a_ghostwheel · · Score: 3, Informative

      This (work safe) will satisfy your curiosity. Just stare long enough on the picture.

    11. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I work at a good sized firm in IT. They're doing a nice job of micromanagement and useless beauracracy. I'm leaving, and I'm using the same thing TWO other ex-slaves did, sign up for as many long-term projects as possible.

      These get shuffled around from manager to manager to marketing as they get tons of "we wants" and then, about 2 seconds before they want the project done, they actually start wanting code. After all, management has decided what they "need" so my ESP should fill me in on what they want. But for me this time, I'll be gone at that point. The last 2 times this happened, the blame got shuffled off as managers blamed other managers in a fine display of back-stabbing. I'm hoping for a hat trick.

      A few years & different job ago, following a marketing suggestion (demand actually), I changed most of our site to pdf. It looks just how they want. Browsers be damned. Good idea that one was. Ah, marketing, where everyone has T1 and a 24" monitor. I couldn't even see the entire screen with my lowly 17".

    12. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by glpierce · · Score: 1

      That took me 15 minutes to get. I was messing with the contrast, zooming in, couldn't figure it out. Then it hit me like a bag of bricks - yow!

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    13. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are doing all wrong. Send an email to your coworkers, your boss and his boss, explicitly saying how tired you are of the BAD PRACTICES at work, and explicitly explain all the mistakes the whole team is doing, explaining all the required changes in datail. Explain at the end all the concepts they have not gotten right. Just explain, emotionless.

      Tell them at the end that you quit, that you have learnt a lot (as you can see), but you are no longer learning, and that if they fix all that stuff you would be willing to reconsider.

      Wish them luck. They need it. Desperately.

      "If you have any question, don't hesitate to contact your brain. My brain is $200 per hour."

    14. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Unlimited+Carrots · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe I should have tried that when quitting my last job, I left because management was fucking the staff (literally, might I add) and burned out hell of a bridge when I left. Which, sadly, bit me in the ass in a serious fashion when I tried to get another job, as the bastards told everyone that I had no work ethic, the IQ of a houseplant, and God only knows what else. Now I can only get hired by people who are either desperate or are so distracted by my breasts that they'd hire me for ANYTHING, so long as they had me close enough to leave pupil prints on the front of my clothing.

    15. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to stick some unlimited carrots in your orifices...

    16. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by hthb · · Score: 1

      Are you sure you are not talking about American Beuty ?

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    17. Re:Leave the Fight Club way by lurwas · · Score: 0

      Only on /. can tips like this be modded insightful...

  2. Just leave by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tell nicely them you're leaving in two weeks, and they'll likely escort you out NOW. As you are leaving, tell them you are available for two weeks at $200/hr (for any part of an hour) to answer any questions.

    Tell them you need to be paid in adavance.

    Good luck in your new job.

    1. Re:Just leave by DZign · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's the easy solution..

      As others posted, don't anything they can call the police for.
      About burning bridges, think well what you do and how you bring it. You can burn bridges but make it sound as if it's not your fault, try to make it their fault that you don't want to work for them anymore.

      You can be creative about the way you're going to tell your boss. You don't have to say you've found a new job. So as far as your boss knows, there can be another reason to leave your job, like that threatening lecture you speak about.

      It depends on who you are but you can use this in many ways. Just go to him and say you've thought about what he said then and you find it unfair and therefor don't want to work for the company anymore.
      Or you can even act as you've got a depression because of it, start crying that you did your best and didn't want to disappoint him and liked working there so much but didn't expect it and.....
      There are many possible ways but it depends on who you are and the situation at the company.

      I had something similar, left a consultancy job 2 years ago, the boss was a jerk.. but I was polite, didn't burn bridges.
      A month ago the company phoned me back, first to ask me if I still had documentation or even source code from a specific project I did for them.. Later their true reason for contacting me came out, they had a big project starting and needed to hire someone, and as I had that specific experience, they wanted to hire me for a few months. It felt very good to say no to them :-)

    2. Re:Just leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Knowing the company policy here can be helpful. In some places, you give two weeks notice, and you are escorted from the building and they just pay you your last two weeks without needing to do any actual work.

      In a previous job, I was working in a rather security-oriented area of the company. I had access to all sorts of systems and data, and the policy was that if anyone quit, they left right then and there, and would be paid out the rest of their time without being allowed back into the building.

      So use this to your advantage, and give two MONTHS notice that you are quitting. What could be better than having the company pay you to do nothing for two months? Nice.

      There are four possible outcomes here:

      1) They fire you for giving two months notice. That's illegal just about everywhere, so you can at least sue them

      2) You get two months with pay without doing any work. This is the best case scenerio.

      3) They let you work those 6 months, and keep paying you. This is the most likely, but it all depends on their policy. If you want to quit earlier, just change your quitting date.

      4) They let you keep working, but lay you off a short while later. Odds are good that the package they give you is better than 2 weeks pay.

    3. Re:Just leave by Not_Wiggins · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree with everything except the negative sentiments towards your old job (even if talking with a new company).

      ALWAYS present leaving a job on good terms, if you can.

      You might not think about it now, but do you really want a future employer to even have to decide if you left because your old boss was a jerk or you were the jerk?!?

      Bad jobs happen... people have bad worker/employer fits all the time.

      You want your future employers to see that you were able to handle a bad situation gracefully; it'll add to your credit.

      (Although not in the parent of this reply, but from the original poster): "you're not going to use them as a reference" suggests you'd rather have a multi-year gap in your employment history than show you were gainfully employed? Bad move.

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    4. Re:Just leave by ringfinger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I had a bad job and quit once. I gritted my teeth on the exit interview and said my boss wasn't the reason I quit. This was even though the HR manager already knew I hated my boss -- and that the boss was an asshole. Well, a year later I ended up needing a reference and I called the asshole boss. It was like we were old friends. He gave me a glowing reference. He also asked if he could use me as a reference someday if he needed -- see, he figured if he helped me that I'd help him. After all, no one else at that place would've been a reference for him because he's such a dick. It's like we knew we never liked each other, but needed each other for our own reasons. Weird, but true.

    5. Re:Just leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey,

      I tried getting in touch with you about that NYMPHS thing in your sig, but the email address appears to be broken. It got returned to sender. Gimme a shout at starCANNEDMEATkruzr@staCANNEDMEATrkruzr dot com, minus the spam.

    6. Re:Just leave by rbb · · Score: 1
      About burning bridges, think well what you do and how you bring it. You can burn bridges but make it sound as if it's not your fault
      I've got a good example of that.

      When I started in an earlier job (company shall stay anonymous to protect the innocent), one of my colleagues was in the process of leaving the company (on the best of terms, by the way).

      After he left, the over-active system administration department of the company wiped his system so the next guy could use it. Turns out that that system ran half a dozen scripts that glued critical parts of the system together.

      Heavy breakage ensued.
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  3. Good god man.. by kagaku · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you never seen Office Space?

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    1. Re:Good god man.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HA! I did the Office Space thing once...just quit working but continued to show up for a couple of months before anyone noticed.

      "Did you finish that TPS report?"

      "Nope"

      "Well, are ya gonna finish it?"

      "Probably not"

      It STILL cracks me up!

      But seriously, whatever you do, be sure to spin it so that you look good. You never know what might come back to haunt you.

  4. Vacation! by vandalman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Take a two week vacation and come back to a message saying something like, "So I guess your not going to work here anymore, come get your last paycheck." It worked for me, it should work for you!

    P.S.
    I did let the mean old lady know I was going on vacation, she just forgot.

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    1. Re:Vacation! by cujo_1111 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Put in your 2 week notice today, take a sick day tomorrow. Come in the following day all happy and jovial, take the next day as a sick day. Repeat.

      It works better than expected. By the second sick day they work out the deal and you get the next week off fully paid.

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    2. Re:Vacation! by mattgorle · · Score: 1

      Haha.

      This happened to me last year. I came back from a holiday (authorised by the boss) to find I had been sacked (by the same woman - bitch!). The real problem here was that my accomodation was tied to the job, so I was also facing impending homelessness.

      That last shift of mine wasn't conducted up to the usual standard, I can assure you!

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    3. Re:Vacation! by caseydk · · Score: 1


      Once I did do this. I had already had vacation approved and ended up getting a different job offer.

      So the day before I left, I gave my 2 weeks notice...

    4. Re:Vacation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, take your vacation, sick leave, etc. They could stiff you for it. Bear in mind, although all of these people have good intentions when they tell you to give two weeks notice, be prepared that they won't let you serve it and will stiff you.

      In the last ten years, two of my jobs at LARGE corporations ended with a refusal to pay a paid holiday during my last two weeks, and they said they didn't have to, because I didn't give two weeks notice, although I DID. In a second case, I gave two weeks notice and after the first week, they told me to leave, after they pumped me for information and had a person in my position. They did not pay the second week. And this was supposedly "good terms." I was shocked.

      Now, I just figure that it's likely something will be hosed about the last two weeks. I don't plan on two weeks notice next time if I can't afford a vacation.

    5. Re:Vacation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No way, tell why you are leaving, just not to only your boss. He'll cover it up and say you were an asshole.

      Tell everyone you're leaving for more money, better benefits, and cool management. Throw in no chinos and no cubes either. Hey, it can't hurt. If you can get them to improve anything or plant the seed, you help yourself in the end. If that business improves, the businesses around it will improve working conditions.

    6. Re:Vacation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a manufacturing job I had a supervisor who took over for me during breaks. Since mistakes made at my station didn't show up until later down the line it was very possible for the supervisor to blame his screwups on me. Finally he did it once too often & got me suspended for a day. I spent it finding a new job. (Yes, this was many years ago.)

      The day I came back I waited until my supervisor relieved me for lunch-then I walked out. My resignation, detailing my reasons for leaving, I hand-delivered to my supervisor's boss.

    7. Re:Vacation! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I came back after a three day weekend, I had got up and got out of a nice warm bed with obliging company to get to work by 0600, drove over Highway 17 and found out I was fired, once. Cocksmokers. I should have slept in.

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    8. Re:Vacation! by TioHoltzman · · Score: 1

      I have always wondered how long you could milk not showing up.
      Just start working somewhere else, and not tell the old company or even use them as a reference, and then just never show up again at your old job. Call in vacation time, call in sick, and just keep making excuses till they fire you. Meanwhile, you're already working somewhere else.
      Anyone ever try this?

    9. Re:Vacation! by Misch · · Score: 1

      Yup. I remember an employee trying to claim disability pay. Then someone heard her voice... on the radio, doing DJ work at a radio station in the area.

      Needless to say, her disability claim was rejected.

      In another case, after a merger, we knew a round of layoffs were coming. Most everyone had taken a day or two of "vacation time" in the previous weeks. Many had gone on interviews with other companies during that time.

      One guy, when he was terminated collected his severance package on Friday, then started work at another company the next Monday. (Still getting severance pay for whatever period of time that was).

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  5. Here... by Steamhead · · Score: 1

    Yeah sure have fun, but don't do anything that would get you sued or in jail.

    Have fun, and by all means, tell us what you do :-).

    -Dan

    1. Re:Here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes Mummy *sucks thumb*

    2. Re:Here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beats sucking dick in federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison.

  6. Na dun burn bridges by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, it might be fun, but you never know when you will bump into people you worked with down the road.

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    1. Re:Na dun burn bridges by kwerle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The only time I'd really be tempted to issue the big FOAD is if I was leaving the area, and/or the profession. Even then, I'd make it real clear who the FOAD was for, who it was not for, why I was stating it, etc.

      I have ALWAYS insisted on an exit interview, and one time I was not real nice - another time I was very clear to HR that I would never ever work for so and so ever again.

      If you go for the FOAD, I suggest you do the exit interview first.

    2. Re:Na dun burn bridges by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So my uncle does shipping right? He was the guy who got the Canadian company to ship food from various places to Iraq back when that's what the U.N. was all about. The deal for his company was pretty nice, 7 figures, and he was going to get 10%. His ass of a boss fired him after working 10 months on the project, 2 months before he'd get his 10%.

      So then he got a new job. Sorta the same thing. He was working there about half a year before his boss there got promoted or something, gone, right? Then his company hires a shiny new boss for my uncle... and it's his old boss who fired him. The guy got canned himself for firing my uncle and dicking up the company.

      My uncle tells the funniest stories. Since then he's sold baby formula to Africa, used cars, and now he's in Kuwait organizing shipping to Iraq once again.

      --Matthew

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    3. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Nos. · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Precisely, but ask for an exit interview. Explain why you are leaving, and why you don't like the position. If nothing else, your (former) co-workers might get a bit of a break. Also, sometimes management may not actually realize the environment they're creating.

    4. Re:Na dun burn bridges by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So my uncle does shipping right?

      How the hell should I know?

    5. Re:Na dun burn bridges by KDan · · Score: 1

      One word/acronym: ESP.

      Daniel

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    6. Re:Na dun burn bridges by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I'd make it real clear who the FOAD was for, who it was not for, why I was stating it"

      "Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. And fuck you. I'm out."
      http://www.moviewavs.com/cgi-bin/mp3s.cgi?H alf_Bak ed=i_quit.mp3

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    7. Re:Na dun burn bridges by BCoates · · Score: 2, Funny

      He was the guy who got the Canadian company to ship food from various places to Iraq back when that's what the U.N. was all about. [...] and he was going to get 10%. [...] Since then he's sold baby formula to Africa, used cars, and now he's in Kuwait organizing shipping to Iraq once again.

      So, are there any other fringe benefits of being the nephew of Satan?

    8. Re:Na dun burn bridges by TomSawyer · · Score: 5, Funny
      My uncle tells the funniest stories.

      Too bad it doesn't appear to be hereditary.

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    9. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      +1 Insightful. Anyone that sells baby formula (I'm assuming Nestlé or Danone, 'cause they make practically all of it) to developing countries who'd be MUCH BETTER OFF educating their mothers to breast-feed should die a very slow, painful, horrible death.

      http://www.babymilkaction.org/CEM/compseptoct01. ht ml
      http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporations /Cor pRights_HumanNeed.html
      http://www.news24.com/News 24/World/0,6119,2-10_130 8508,00.html

    10. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Artifex · · Score: 1
      Since then he's sold baby formula to Africa


      Useful baby formula? Or that Nestle's crap that they weren't allowed to sell in the U.S., that was nutritionally deficient, and that kids died from?
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    11. Re:Na dun burn bridges by mistermoonlight · · Score: 1
      We already know. :-)


      Sorry, couldn't resist.

    12. Re:Na dun burn bridges by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      Abso-posi-lutely!
      I've interviewed people that thought it was fun to be an ass when they were fired. Granted, I wasn't the boss, but behaviour like that isn't usually tolerated by the new boss.

      Be professional, and leave like a man. Doing something stupid is viewed as juvenile, and if anyone (not just the boss, but anyone in that company) is part of the hiring process for a job you really want, you'll be happy you did the professional thing.

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    13. Re:Na dun burn bridges by zatz · · Score: 1

      No baby formula is better than mother's milk, and that was the real problem. Children were weaned prematurely on free baby food, and then when the free supply was gone, the mothers couldn't afford to buy it and had already ceased lactating.

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    14. Re:Na dun burn bridges by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dude, the company was only getting $2,000,000 from the job. My uncle's specific expertise is getting permissions from various governments for docking and transport rights and whatnot. The company provided a service which was simply making sure product X went from point A to point B and all the paperwork was in line for that to happen. He's doing more of the same now in Iraq.

      For example, he had to deal with several thousand tons of U.N. WFP food parked on container ships off the coast of British controlled Iraq which the Brits wouldn't let move into the country.

      His current stories are about hiring drivers to transport stuff into the country (food again). He has to deal with Turks in the north who are all loaded up but then get scared at the last minute and stop at the border with freezer trucks who's systems end up getting shut down and the food rots. All the truckers he deals with in the south are Indian, btw, and they're not so difficult except for the fact that everyone's charging exorbitant prices to transport stuff into the country. For good reason too, he's been on a couple convoys when they've been attacked.

      There's not much Satan to him, he just likes being in the most interesting places at the time. I'm not sure what the used car thing was about though.

      --Matthew

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    15. Re:Na dun burn bridges by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 1

      Not sure, something out of a Florida company.

      Nestle's got worse problems than bad baby formula when your consider all the cocoa growing countries in the world that they keep economic control over. He wouldn't deal with them.

      --Matthew

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    16. Re:Na dun burn bridges by bentfork · · Score: 1
      There's not much Satan to him, he just likes being in the most interesting places at the time

      I agree with some of your reasoning, and I am glad you clarified.

      however, Does that not mean that your 'uncle' sold his soul so that he can be in interesing places?

    17. Re:Na dun burn bridges by invenustus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's possible to combine humor and honesty in a resignation.

      Wait for the next time your job pisses you off. Try to put yourself in a situation where something unfair will be done to you. When it happens say, "That's it! I can't take it anymore! I'm leaving! You have pushed me too far!" They'll try to apologize and beg you not to overreact, but you'll be walking out the door.

      If done just right, the person who wronged you will look bad for having directly caused employee attrition.

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    18. Re:Na dun burn bridges by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 1

      Is organizing shipping so immoral? I'd like to think that if there were more people like him floating around with all the knowhow required to ship things into and out of countries then there'd be fewer people saying "it hasn't gotten here yet so we can't do anything."

      --Matthew

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    19. Re:Na dun burn bridges by cujo_1111 · · Score: 1

      Hey dude, not every woman can breastfeed you know.

      My wife tried for 3-4 days to breastfeed our son, due to unknown reasons her milk didn't come and our son started refusing to attach properly. He took to a bottle of formula like a fish to water.

      He is now 6 months old, growing quickly, weighs 10.5 kg and seems to be healthier than the breastfed babies of the same age.

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    20. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 1

      I second that...

      Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. You're cool. And fuck you. I'm out.

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    21. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Pandora's+Vox · · Score: 2, Informative

      formula is marketed in developping countries as being "better" than breat milk. it's not. it's really, really not. and hey, you're lucky that it worked for you + yours. but imagine this:

      woman has a baby in africa somewhere. woman feeds baby formula. woman goes broke! can't buy formula, and oh no! no more breast milk either.

      plus the shit they sell in thr 3rd world is awful. very different from what they sell here.

    22. Re:Na dun burn bridges by raju1kabir · · Score: 1
      however, Does that not mean that your 'uncle' sold his soul so that he can be in interesing places?

      It is, in fact, moderately helpful for there to be food in Iraq.

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    23. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think an uncle can pass on any hereditarty triats to a nephew...

    24. Re:Na dun burn bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fat little f*cker, ain't he?

    25. Re:Na dun burn bridges by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      My uncle tells the funniest stories. Since then he's sold baby formula to Africa, used cars, and now he's in Kuwait organizing shipping to Iraq once again.

      Hmm. He's "sold baby formula to Africa"? Might make an interesting story (doubtful, but hey, you never know). He's "in Kuwait organizing shipping"? That sounds pretty interesting, actually, but I'm a bit of a logistics geek. He's "used cars"? Well, by golly, so have I! I guess I've got some funny stories about being on the road myself...

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  7. Don't Burn Bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You NEWER know where someone will end up in 5 years. The Boss you screw over today could be interviewing you in 5 years at some other company.

    I know a guy who used to work in a specific industry, then went to work for one of the large consulting firms. He was sent to one of the companies to pitch a $30M project. He ended up pitching to someone he had seriously screwed a number of years earlier. Needless to say regardless of his current companies abilities, they didn't get the contact.

    1. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by jamesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In addition, don't burn bridges for your co-workers. I used to work in a manufacturing plant for a major computer company. The plant was sold to a contract manufacturer startup, with the original owner being the major client. After a while things weren't going so well, and some staff were layed off. On his last day, some fsckwit sent an email addressed to 'l.gerstner' (the head guy at the original owner and major client).

      The email contained an ASCII moon, and not the kind you'd normally see hanging in the sky.

      Chances are Mr Gerstner never saw it, one would assume that he'd have email monkeys vetting his mail first, but it sure made us look bad.

    2. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by khrtt · · Score: 1

      The Boss you screw over today could be interviewing you in 5 years at some other company.

      Then, again, the boss you screw over today could be shining your shoes in 5 years at some other company...

    3. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by smatthew · · Score: 1

      And that's called Karma. It's a bitch, but so am I.

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    4. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by bwt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In addition, don't burn bridges for your co-workers.

      I agree. Be classy. People will remember how you left. If your real motivation is to screw the company, do it with a smile while being polite -- put in two weeks notice, actually do your work, and quietly try to recruit other key people to leave too. This way, your coworkers will remember that you were a good guy (whether they follow you or not).

    5. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

      Man, that guy screwed up, what an idiot. He should've sent an ASCII Goatse!

    6. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The Boss you screw over today could be interviewing you in 5 years at some other company.

      Perhaps more significantly, your boss's boss or peer, who had nothing against you until they heard from your boss how you screwed him, could be interviewing you later on somewhere else.

      Never burn bridges, ever. It's unprofessional, and your professional reputation is worth more than any temporary smugness you might achieve.

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    7. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by Prior+Restraint · · Score: 2, Informative

      Perhaps more significantly, your boss's boss or peer, who had nothing against you until they heard from your boss how you screwed him, could be interviewing you later on somewhere else.

      Hear! Hear!

      At the start of 2001, I left Company X to come work where I am now. I've recently started looking for a new job, and a few weeks ago I got an interview with Company Y. It's a first-round interview, so I'm really just there to listen to their recruiter's sales pitch. I show up to the interview and--what's this?--it's the guy who recruited me to work for Company X! Turns out he left about three months after I did.

      Had I made a huge scene when I left Company X (and I really, really wanted to), I wouldn't even be considered for the position at Company Y, which is currently my favorite choice.

    8. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by rthille · · Score: 1

      If the same asshole I hated working for 5 years ago is interviewing me at a job tomorrow, I'm not working there. No fucking way. I've lived under asshole bosses and doing it again with foreknowledge just isn't worth it. But then I've still got some fuck-you money from before the dot-bomb days...

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    9. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by C60 · · Score: 1

      I fully agree, burning bridges is definately a bad thing. I don't know where I heard it, but when dealing with PHBs I always remember that management is like a tree full of monkeys, managers look down and see a bunch of smiling faces looking up at them. Employees look up and see a bunch of assholes. Unless you're really lucky it's always going to be this way.

      However, if I were going to quit in style...... I would get up onto my bosses desk, squat, and leave a nice big steaming pile of crap on his desk before walking out the door. Its one of those thoughts that gets me through the day ;)

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    10. Re:Don't Burn Bridges by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      However, if I were going to quit in style...... I would get up onto my bosses desk, squat, and leave a nice big steaming pile of crap on his desk before walking out the door. Its one of those thoughts that gets me through the day ;)

      It's even funnier if you put it in the suspended ceiling.

  8. Make it meaningful, or funny... by bscott · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I could write paragraphs on pranks you could pull, but frankly if you can't think of your own, it would be pointless - you're not the type.

    The only other "meaningful" way to go would be to use the opportunity to give a message to the downtrodden you're leaving behind. Show them just how lazy, insubordinate, and unmotivated one can be without actually getting fired (for the duration of however long you have left) - just be a really bad example to other employees, and watch management squirm in their inability to fire you in today's litigious climate... ideally, the outcome of this act could be that everyone else will realize their true position, begin acting similarly, and perhaps management will be forced into a corner with regards to how they treat their 'human resources'. Businesses treat employees like shit only when they think they can get away with it.

    See the movie "Office Space" for some hints.

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    Perfectly Normal Industries
  9. Have some fun... by Flaming_cows · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have some fun and paint a big red penis on your PHB's door, reminiscent of Penny-Arcade.

  10. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    make inappropriate joke humiliating said boss

  11. Name that quote by HunterZ · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Fuck you,fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're cool, fuck you, fuck you, I'm out."

    I've been tempted to do that one at work, since I'm about to leave a fast food job for a much better paying software development job.

    --
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    1. Re:Name that quote by dextr0us · · Score: 2, Informative

      bam!!! dave chapelle at his finest!!! Half Baked! What a classic peice of cinema masterpiece.

      --
      "Martha Stewart can lick my Scrotum......do i have a scrotum?" -- Sharon Osbourne
    2. Re:Name that quote by antiher0 · · Score: 1

      "Half Baked", of course!

    3. Re:Name that quote by Mojojojo+Monkey+Inc. · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, not quite informative... it was Guillermo Díaz (Scarface) who said that specific line. Dave Chappelle is good though.

  12. MOD PARENT UP by SewersOfRivendell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, AC is giving you solid advice -- don't burn bridges. Doesn't matter if he's an asshole. You never know who you're going to work with again or why circumstances should conspire to make you do so...

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP by Leonig+Mig · · Score: 1

      I thought this was going to be rofl type thread.

    2. Re:MOD PARENT UP by mandos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You may be right, but this whole "the employee should just bend over and take it" attitude is not something people want to do or hear about it. Just the other day here on SlashDot we were reading about how the brain is wired to ENJOY revenge of various sorts.

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      Mike Scanlon
    3. Re:MOD PARENT UP by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1
      You may be right, but this whole "the employee should just bend over and take it" attitude is not something people want to do or hear about it.

      He's not bending over and taking it. And no one is encouraging him to. He's quitting his job. Bending over and taking it is when you stay with a job you hate and we all agree that that sucks. Leaving and going elsewhere is mature, professional and reasonable.
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  13. Just stop going in by dnight · · Score: 1

    See how long it takes to get fired. You might just get another paycheck out of it. Make sure to bring in a boom box so you can freak out and dance your way out. Wear a tshirt saying something like "^Name$ buggers blind billy goats!" with the goatse pic on the back.

    I hate the "bridge" anecdote. People aren't bridges. If they are fuckwits, cut 'em loose, you don't want to work with them again anyway. The real people will outshine those lesser lifeforms that will still be in middle management 10 years from now, while you are out sailing in your new sailboat all summer (personal experience, still doing it). Treasure the gems, flush the feces.

    1. Re:Just stop going in by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Funny

      People aren't bridges.

      No, they're not, but imagining them to be so does make it easier to pour gasoline on them and shoot them with a flare gun.

      --
      You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
  14. Ask for a promotion by narratorDan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Go into your PHB's office and ask for a promotion or a raise or just about what ever you want keeping in mind that he most likely will not give it to you. Then tell him that he has two weeks to think about it.

    NarratorDan

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    "If you're not confused by quantum mechanics, you really don't understand it." - Niels Bohr
    1. Re:Ask for a promotion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I reached a point where I had had it with my job, so I found another, accepted the offer, then offered my two week notice. My PHB didn't want me to leave, so he said to take the day off and make a list of what it would take to make me stay.

      I didn't want to stay, but I made a list of everything I disliked about my job and made an unreasonable salary raise request (but I was polite). I brought it in and he accepted it (and actually made many of the changes I suggested).

      But, before you think this story has a happy ending, in a few months, everything was back to normal (i.e., rotten), someone found out about the "deal", which caused unbelievable workplace tension, I was making too much money to easily find another job (golden handcuffs), and I had pissed off the company that had given me another offer. To make it all worse, I'm still working there and having a hell of a time finding another job.

      When I do, though, there is no way in hell that I will consider a counter-offer to stay. Oh yeah, I am a regular, but, for obvious reasons, I am posting this AC.

  15. OT Re:Just leave by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    They never seen to run out. So now, I hope to meet my future wife by giving invites to women.

    Slashdot women are my 'type'.

    1. Re:OT Re:Just leave by Dylbert · · Score: 1

      Holy Jesus!

      Oh wait, -geek- girls.

      --
      I swear, if I see another Slashdot comment with "It will be interesting to see"...
    2. Re:OT Re:Just leave by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And tonight's total is

      6 invites put in my sig
      3 taken by obvious guys
      2 by obvious women
      1 TBD

      All added to my contact list.

      Thank you all for playing. (Hey, you guys, let the women have them next time.)

    3. Re:OT Re:Just leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      you are a truly pathetic individual.

    4. Re:OT Re:Just leave by escher · · Score: 4, Funny

      So now, I hope to meet my future wife by giving invites to women.

      I was going to say this sounds really pathetic, but only because I'm jealous that you thought of it first.

    5. Re:OT Re:Just leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you are...?
      (And I am...? ;-)

    6. Re:OT Re:Just leave by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't mind being called pathetic, but having my posts that I have clearly marked as OT being modded as OT really burns my karma.

      If you join the Great SlashDot Gmail Invite Sig Movement, you have to change your sig as soon as the invite is taken, or others who click on it see the new gmail address. Then they will steal your women (or men, for those who prefer men).

      BC - N

  16. ok, so I feel old saying this but... by tvadakia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    never burn bridges.

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    Unique.
    1. Re:ok, so I feel old saying this but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. Burn bridges if you feel justified. If you end up having to work with the same fucking wanker in the future, he's still going to be a fucking wanker.

      From personal experience: Assholes will always be assholes. Don't be afraid to deal appropriately with an asshole just because you're afraid he might be an even more powerful asshole in the future.

      Being afraid to give someone their due because of where the might be a few years down the road is the definition of being a pussy.

    2. Re:ok, so I feel old saying this but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Being afraid to give someone their due because of where the might be a few years down the road is the definition of being a pussy.

      I agree, but why are you posting as A/C?

    3. Re:ok, so I feel old saying this but... by Zardoz44 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Hey Fred. Nice day for a BBQ. Have you met my Wife? ... Btw, I just got this resume from a guy who says he used to work at your company. Ever hear of Medscaper?

      Fuck yeah! You want to know what he did when he quit? Don't hire that asshole. Don't waste your time.

      Small world. Good thing I talked to you first.

      ---------

      I can't tell you how many stories I've heard of burned bridges haunting someone years down the road. Do you know the phrase I'm about to butcher? Treat a customer well and they'll tell two people; treat them badly and they'll tell ten. Same goes with burnt bridges. People remember bad things.

    4. Re:ok, so I feel old saying this but... by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So true.

      when I work for my first company, there was this presales guy who decided to change role to a team lead. One day he was overheard complaining his bonus was a measly x, instead of y (y being jus a couple of grand less than our salaries at the time).

      forward 4 years, I'm recruiting.. and I'm asked to ask questions of this guy they ave n for a fancy job... you guessed. He didn't get the job.

      Since then, when I get CVs in, I ask around for people who knew the guy, it does give a good indication of how he'll fit in with the team, and though you don't use just that as a filter, it does play a major part of the hiring decision.

      There's one guy I used to work with at my last company who I will not work with ever again. I recommended the product they make to my current employer who will resell it/partner up. That guy *will not* be involved in the new business.

  17. One day I quit my phone tech support job... by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 3, Informative

    About a year ago I was working in the tech support department in one of the universities in Toronto. Every summer the older employees had to create presentations to train the new employees before the school year would start. My task, as luck would have it, was to teach them how the wireless network was set up, and what software/hardware was required to connect to it. As any good employee, I spent a couple of my afternoons working on the Powerpoint slides, got it ready on time even though I did not get paid for the extra time I worked on it.

    The setup was fairly involved because it required a VPN client that was not easy to set up, and a user name and password, which again, were complicated to obtain. On top of that, each MAC address had to be registered with the server. A day before the presentation, the entire system was changed. the VPN client was dumped in favour of a proxy system, which still required a user name and password. Needless to say, my presentation was worthless, and I was required to redo it within a day. I started working on it, but because I had made plans for the evening, I decided to finish it at the last moment the next day. I never got around to it.

    I should mention this was not a 9-5 job, the shifts were 4 hours long. I even had to work from 3-11pm and then the next morning from 8am-3pm. Now for the rest of my story.

    The day my unfinished presentation was due was such a beautiful, hot summer day I decided to ride my motorcycle to work. I thought I could wing it on the spot, and the whole way I kept thinking of it. The closer I got to the campus though, the more I dreaded having to deal with a problem I had not created. So I rode into the campus when I saw one of my supervisors walking around. But instead of turning into the parking lot, I just kept on going.

    Later that evening I pulled up on a friend's driveway in Ottawa, about 450km away from the stupid presentation and my former job. I came back a week later to collect my last paycheck. That's how I quit my bad job.

    1. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by cujo_1111 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That is a really pissweak way of quitting if you don't mind me saying so.

      Running away isn't going to fix anything. You should have given your original presentation and added a slide to the end saying that if the trainees have any questions, please see the person who made the process changes.

      You would still have a chance at losing your job but you would have a ton more fun in the process.

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    2. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 1

      You sir, are a pussy. I hope you don't expect it to be different in the real world. College was such a wonderful, fanciful time...reality is much more brutal. Be a man - oops, too late.

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      ymmv
    3. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About six months ago, I quit my job at a small financial services company. My boss, to whom I shall refer in this posting as "Dick Weed", was one of the reasons I left. At the same time, a friend working at the same place quit for basically the same reasons. The day before, another guy on the team had quit.

      Anyway, I put in my notice on a Tuesday morning. On the way home, I got a call from my "new" boss, asking if I could meet the client Wednesday morning for a short meeting. The meeting ended up taking half the day, and by the time I got to work, old Dick was pretty upset. He told us he was going to escort us (me and the friend that quit at the same time) out, and did so.

      We went to Starbucks and drank some coffee, and then I went home. When I got there, I got a call from another friend who was still there. He said "You just missed the axe. They just let Dick and 5 other people go."

      That was a good day.

    4. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, did you come up with that reply yourself, or did you read the exact same reply that was posted two hours before, and think to yourself "Hey, I have no brains. I am going to call someone a pussy when I don't know the circumstances. That will show that I have a big dick."

    5. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by teallach · · Score: 1

      Running away isn't going to fix anything. You should have given your original presentation and added a slide to the end saying that if the trainees have any questions, please see the person who made the process changes.

      Exactly. In fact the person who made the process changes should have provided (and probably did) instructions on the revised procedures to all employees, not just new starts.

      Just not turning up is equivalent to locking yourself in the toilets for the duration of the meeting.

      Q: "Where's Bob?"
      A: "Oh he's out in the car park, and won't come back in until the server crash has been resolved."

    6. Re:One day I quit my phone tech support job... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, we were a small IT department only about 8 people total, 3 of them would answer the help desk phones, nothing big really. We just were having a hard time keeping one of the help desk positions filled.
      The last person, we'll call her Jane, was having a hard time with the job, so our manager had decided to have weekly talks with her about how it was going and to give her some assistance. By the way great manager.
      So, our manager is talking with Jane one day and Jane says she needs to get something from her desk. About 10 minutes later my manager comes to my cube and asks if I had seen Jane, I hadn't. So, she walks out to the parking lot and sure enough Jane's car was gone.
      While Jane was obviously leaving a stressful situation, it made for a really funny situation. Just seeing my boss come to my cube with this confused look on her face asking where Jane was, because she was just in a meeting with her.

  18. Seek employment for your friends by complete+loony · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Help what friends you have try to get other jobs. Try to encourage a mass migration.

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  19. Dog Shit Warpaint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I went in & quit with clumps & streaks of dog shit on my face. I didn't point it out. Didn't say anything. Best part was rubbing my chin at the end and then extending my now dog shit covered hand for a parting hand shake.

    Bitches. Show'ed them who's boss.

    1. Re:Dog Shit Warpaint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Shithead.

  20. small industry by austad · · Score: 4, Funny

    The IT industry is small, and as much as I've wanted to do that in the past, I'm glad I didn't. That being said, I give you this:

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/33123421. html

    I hope that any ideas it gives you are deserved of the people on the receiving end.

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    1. Re:small industry by BoomerSooner · · Score: 1

      There is DNA in your shit. I would suggest against this.

    2. Re:small industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, seriously. Ten years ago, maybe.
      But now, technology is advancing so fast that within a few years employers might be able to make a DNA match without even having to involve outside agencies.

  21. straight up by Sean+Johnson · · Score: 1

    give it to 'em straight up. Let them know exactly what the deal is, how you feel, why you're leaving, and why your productivity has been hampered. Let them know that you are leaving for a better work environment and you decided easily at the drop of a hat. The truth is always more powerful than some hammed-up thing. The more eloquently and succinctly you drive home your points, the more it will sink into your boss' head. The truth hurts. Let them know that the method of management is severly lacking, blah, blah ,blah.
    Hey,,,,here's an idea...... rig up ALL the office printers to print out at the same time your act of quitting....in LARGE BOLD FONT.
    here's another one....sneak in really early into your boss' office and fill it full with helium balloons....have printed on the balloons: "I QUIT....'your name'" ........maybe give your boss a "gift"...like a cigar, all wrapped up nice with a bow and your name on....."TO: BOSS"/ inside the package instead have a big note "I QUIT ... happy birthday jackass" this would make him initially think you're trying to be a brown-noser or something
    set a furby on his desk in front of him....this furby should have been taught what to say beforehand. The furby will speak your mind for you. Feel free to be uncouth as you want. ......../as much as you can before you quit....REALLY start slacking off and being a jerk and doing things wrong and messing things up...HAHA... ...../call in very serious like in a serious tone....say you are not coming to work because you are dead, or some other REALLY corny excuse ........I could think of more, but I gotta get some sleep
    good luck...tell us what it was you actually did though

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    >>>>>> Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive.
    1. Re:straight up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Large bold font... that's hilarious!

    2. Re:straight up by Sean+Johnson · · Score: 1

      It is VERY HILARIOUS! That's why I thought it up. LARGE BOLD FONT is always hilarious.

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      >>>>>> Chewie, take the professor in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive.
  22. revenge is sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of spending your time pulling pranks, why not make full use of it to fuck over the people there that made your life hell.

    Don't put in your notice. Pretend you don't have another job, but do everything in your power to get people canned, including your boss. Got an email exchange with your boss somewhere where he is just plain wrong? Well, forward it to his boss, explain that you are sick of his technical ineptitude and it's affecting your entire department. Got an email where your boss cracks a sexual joke, didn't that offend you? Was there a time when you boss make a sexual with others around? Well, tell HR and say you have witnesses.

    I think I could get every single co-worker I've ever worked with fired just over the sheer amount of sexual jokes they've made.

    Once you complain to HR, they won't fire you, they'll be too afraid to. They might ask you to quit and offer you a nice severance. Or you do 2 weeks of complaining to HR, and then at the end of it just walk in and tell them you can't take it anymore and you're seeking legal counsel for harrassment (not necessarily sexual, any comments made that degrade you or make you feel bad are legal ammo). Maybe they'll offer you a nice severance.

    You can get revenge and capitalize on this deal, don't pass it up. Let us know how it goes.

  23. Don't do anything rash by jezmund · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't piss anyone off! While it may be satisfying to finally tell some one off, it's just not worth it. Look at it this way; it doesn't cost you anything to just quietly and politely leave. Whereas your boss or some one he knows may one day be in a position to make life difficult for you. I've burned bridges in the past, and have almost always regretted it. I have never had occassion to regret the few opportunities I've been smart enough to take the high road. You can certainly express unhappiness as you leave, but I would avoid doing anything rash. Just my two cents.

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    "fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy"
  24. Burn the bridges by flikx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I once left a dismal job a few years back. I tore up my office, made it a total mess. There were dead-man switches galore, and I 'accidentally' broke every build. I clogged several toilets, on multiple floors, in both mens and womens restrooms. I brought in a bunch of rotten food, and left it in various locations. I installed a ton of spyware and uninstalled all virus checking software, after filling the network shares with several gigabytes of the most nasty pornography I could find. I filled my desktop machine with quick-dry cement. On the way out, I even scraped my boss's dinky little car with my truck.

    That was one of the most satisfying experiences in my life. I can't wait to get into a crappy job again!

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    One future, two choices. Oppose them or let them destroy us.
    1. Re:Burn the bridges by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I guess that was a joke ...

      But seriously, before you go over the top in plotting your revenge on your current boss, don't forget that he can do other things than sack you. He can withhold your last paycheck, your accrued holiday. He can track you down at your new job and spill the beans to your new boss. If you do something illegal, he can call in the police. Or much, much worse!

    2. Re:Burn the bridges by Associate · · Score: 1
      He can track you down at your new job and spill the beans to your new boss.

      Depends on where you live. If you're in a 'right to work' state, this is grounds for some serious law suits. And an ass whoopin.
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      Someone hates these cans.
    3. Re:Burn the bridges by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...He can withhold your last paycheck, your accrued holiday.

      I had somebody try this on me once and discussed the issue with a friend who's an HR manager. It seems that withholding paychecks and accrued pay is against Federal labor laws. You don't want to screw with them.

      They have to take you to civil court to get you to pay them back for any damages you might have caused.

      He can track you down at your new job and spill the beans to your new boss. If you do something illegal, he can call in the police. Or much, much worse!
      Depends on where you live. If you're in a 'right to work' state, this is grounds for some serious law suits. And an ass whoopin.

      Even if you weren't in a Right to Work state, this is usually not acceptable. From what I recall, even on reference checks, the only things you can really reveal about a former employee are their hire dates, salary and whether they're elligable for rehire.

      Depending on what's said, and how much proof they have, you could also slap them with libel or slander.

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      There's so little difference between politics and jihad lately...
    4. Re:Burn the bridges by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 4, Insightful
      the only things you can really reveal about a former employee are their hire dates, salary and whether they're elligable for rehire.

      "Mr. Smith? Hi, this is Mr. Anderson over at Fubarco? You hired one of our former employees, a Mr. Jones? I just needed to tell you that his reference status has changed---he is no longer eligible for rehire. Federal law prohibits me from specifying the particulars behind why there's not a chance in hell we would allow Mr. Jones to work here ever again. Just thought I'd let you know. Which reminds me---and this is a completely different and unrelated topic that has nothing to do with the reason we won't allow Mr. Jones to work here ever again---do you have any knowledge of how to remove dead fish from a ventilation system? No? Just thought I'd ask. Well, best of luck!"

      --
      This is not my sandwich.
    5. Re:Burn the bridges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in a RTW state and all my mega company will tell any other company is the duration of the employment. Anything else is grounds for a lawsuit.

    6. Re:Burn the bridges by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1
      If you're in a 'right to work' state, this is grounds for some serious law suits.

      If you piss him off enough, he won't care about your lawsuits.

      And an ass whoopin.

      Is that before, or after his "business acquaintances" broke your knees in response to your trashing the office?

      The point my friend is that things could get very nasty.

    7. Re:Burn the bridges by ChipMonk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mr. Smith? Hi, this is Mr. Anderson over at Fubarco?

      Why on earth would Neo be calling an Agent regarding an employee hire?

    8. Re:Burn the bridges by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 1

      Heh. Exactly. The phrase "not elilgible for rehire" has become recognized as "run screaming from that one" in the HR world...

      Scary, you have the lingo down a little too well for the typical techie. :)

      --
      There's so little difference between politics and jihad lately...
    9. Re:Burn the bridges by cmpalmer · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I'm sorry, but I'm not allowed to discuss details about former employees, but if I were allowed to say something, it would rhyme with 'mazy loron'"

      Dogbert, evil HR director (paraphrased, as I'm sure someone will point out)

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      -- stream of did I lock the front door consciousness
    10. Re:Burn the bridges by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 1

      I copied-and-pasted it down from your posting. The rest is just a matter of finding a solution within a set of constraints. It's just another form of hacking, I suppose.

      --
      This is not my sandwich.
    11. Re:Burn the bridges by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

      You can hire a PI to pose as a prospective employer if you suspect something like this is going on. The resulting info is likely actionable.

  25. One word... three letters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uzi.

  26. Better be nice by dtfinch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've known _of_ employers who would offer a job but not follow through if the prospective employee was willing to dump their previous employer without notice.

    So, you say you're already employed?
    Yes, but I'm not very fond of the work

    So can you start immediately?
    Sure.

    Sorry, can't hire you.

    1. Re:Better be nice by Feztaa · · Score: 4, Informative

      Been there, except it went more like this:

      "So, when can you start?"
      "Well, I have to give my current boss my two weeks notice"
      "Of course. I wouldn't hire you if you didn't."

      2 weeks later, my last day on the job was a friday, I had the weekend to myself, and I started work at the new place on a monday.

    2. Re:Better be nice by Nimey · · Score: 1

      OTOH, there are employers who won't wait the traditional two weeks -- if you're not immediately available, no job.

      Last time I was looking for a job, I was a bit of a special case: my then-current boss had known for almost a year that I was looking for another job (he was perfectly okay with this); I had only to explain this to that type of employer.

      Didn't get me hired, though. Note to self: quit being so fscking honest about not being a people person.

      --
      Hail Eris, full of mischief...

      E pluribus sanguinem
    3. Re:Better be nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I too have been there. With one job, I knew they were the kind of place that when you gave notice, told you to leave NOW, and paid you for the 2 weeks.

      My reply when asked when I could start was "I need to give my current employer 2 weeks notice, BUT their company policy is to have you leave immediately upon notice. So I'll say 2 weeks, but I may be available sooner"

      They said fine. I gave notice on the Friday, and started a week from the Monday (took a week off)

    4. Re:Better be nice by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I've seen the reverse. An "at will" employment contract can end at any time for any reason (excluding illegal reasons, such as race, etc.). So, the company policy was to fire anyone that quit.

      "Hi, I'm putting im my 2 weeks notice."

      "Great. Clean out your desk."

      They don't agree to give me 2 weeks if they fire me, so why should I give them 2 weeks if I quit? I've only ever quit 2 places without notice. One was a truly evil place (they sent me a bill after I quit and didn't send my my paycheck, they just plain made up things on the invoice). The other was after I had been laid off and I was guarenteed employment up to a certain date, but was free to leave before then. I was given a good recommendation from there after quitting without notice.

    5. Re:Better be nice by soulsteal · · Score: 1

      I basically did the same thing you did, except I worked in a 2 week break for myself after having worked for a year without any vacation time.

      My last day with Job X was July 15th and I started Job Y on August 2nd. It was very nice.

    6. Re:Better be nice by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      That sounds like what I'm doing now, except there's no Job Y :(

      (I quit my last job frustrated with crap corporate policies, decided I had a nice big fat swack of cash in my savings so I went on a 2 week vacation, came back and I haven't been able to find a new job yet... I've been unemployed for almost 2 months now).

    7. Re:Better be nice by raju1kabir · · Score: 1
      My last day with Job X was July 15th and I started Job Y on August 2nd. It was very nice.

      Wouldn't "very nice" be a 6-month vacation? 2 weeks is barely long enough to stop instinctively waking up at 6 every morning.

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      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
    8. Re:Better be nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      OTOH, there are employers who won't wait the traditional two weeks -- if you're not immediately available, no job.
      Yeah, but do you want to work there? Why can't they wait? Sure, there's probably a reason they can't wait, but it's a reason that you're not going to like.
  27. Bad Move by Dr.+Bent · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Taking a promotion or a raise instead of leaving for a new job is usually a bad, bad idea.
    1. They think (know) you're disloyal. When it's time for layoffs, you'll be the first to go.
    2. It's possible they're just giving you a raise to give them time to find your replacement. Whenever they're ready, you might be out the door (having passed on your other job offer already).
    3. To use a poker analogy, managers don't like being check-raised. If you think this won't effect their professional/personal opinion of you in the long term, you're wrong.
    4. Most importantly: If you hate the job enough to look for another one, why would you stay? Is the raise/promotion really worth it?

    1. Re:Bad Move by Khazunga · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's a myth. Put yourself in a middle manager's shoes. Would you raise all twenty people in your charge all they deserve, or just enough they won't complain? You may say that if you get paid a lot, you're a bigger target for layoff. That's absolutely true. But then, asking for raises above average is for above average types.

      --
      If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you
    2. Re:Bad Move by thenerdgod · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Taking a promotion or a raise instead of leaving for a new job is usually a bad, bad idea.
      1. They think (know) you're disloyal. When it's time for layoffs, you'll be the first to go.
      2. It's possible they're just giving you a raise to give them time to find your replacement. Whenever they're ready, you might be out the door (having passed on your other job offer already).
      3. To use a poker analogy, managers don't like being check-raised. If you think this won't effect their professional/personal opinion of you in the long term, you're wrong.
      4. Most importantly: If you hate the job enough to look for another one, why would you stay? Is the raise/promotion really worth it?


      " All I have to say is, sure, go ahead, ask for a promotion. Ask for Money. Ask for Power. Ask them to offer you everything you ask for. The point isn't that you want all of that. The point is: "I want my father back, you sonofabitch!"
    3. Re:Bad Move by delorean · · Score: 1
      Exactly.
      Besides, the boss sounds like a six-fingered ROUS.

      --
      "You may all go to hell and I will go to Texas"
      Sen. Davy Crocket to US Congress, Nov. 1, 1835
    4. Re:Bad Move by as400tek · · Score: 1

      No the raise question is funny. It's very open ended. Did you not read anything other then the post right above yours?

      --
      David Vasta iSeries(AS/400) Admin & Junkie
    5. Re:Bad Move by LazyBoy · · Score: 1
      Taking a promotion or a raise instead of leaving for a new job is usually a bad, bad idea.
      Not true. My company (a large telecom company) pays "the market rate". Another offer is considered proof that you're worth more. Automatic match. No hard feelings.
      --

      If Chaos Theory has taught us anything, it's that we must kill all the butterflies.

    6. Re:Bad Move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are completely wrong on this one.

      If you ask for more, it means you are valuable, they didn't know and they just found it out.

      So they could be more than willing to match, promote you and even give you more than you actually can get anywhere else.

      People who don't negotiate successfully are usually not even considered for higher rents/positions because they don't have an specific skill. He is like a developer who can't debug. Useless.

  28. Re:here's a story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you expect better from the mods?

  29. Do what I did. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give two weeks notice, then quietly steal office supplies.

    1. Re:Do what I did. by lewp · · Score: 1

      If you've been "working" properly, you should already have several closets full of stolen office supplies. No need to get more on your way out.

      --
      Game... blouses.
    2. Re:Do what I did. by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 1

      Taking office supplies isn't stealing. It's, like, compensation, for having to work in an office. All jobs have their unofficial perks. With working in an office it's free broadband and pencils and stuff.

    3. Re:Do what I did. by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

      Taking office supplies isn't stealing. It's, like, compensation, for having to work in an office.

      Exactly. It's called Build A Better Life By Stealing Office Supplies. It's Dogbert(tm) approved.

      --
      Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.
  30. Make them know why you're leaving. by arcade · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This will certainly burn some bridges, but if you think it's worth it - and that you are wroth it - then do it.

    Please remember, it's not a good thing to burn bridges at all if you're not outstanding at what you do - but if you're one of the most excellent people at our place, and you will be missed due to your skills, then it may be worth it.

    However, from your story - it seems that your workplace isn't very fond of you, and that it will be interpreted as sour grapes if you do anything. That will not be a good thing.

    Anyways, if by chance, you are a very productive, very well skilled person - then write up a letter on why you are leaving the company, why your direct superior is an asshole, and so forth. Tailor several letters. The one about your superior should be slipped to his superior. The one about other people should be slipped to their superiors. Make it perfectly clear why you are leaving the job - and make sure to let the real bosses know what work you've actually done that is very, very good.

    Normally, though. If it's you that do not fit in, don't play any pranks - just inform your boss that you're not happy with the work environment, and that you've found another place where your skills will be used properly. That you wish this would be the case at the place you're leaving - but that the situation wasn't working out.

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    "Rune Kristian Viken" - http://www.nwo.no - arca
  31. Two weeks and code! by eingram · · Score: 1

    Give them a two weeks notice and use that two weeks to start taking the comments out of your code!

    Or make sure you have some hardware at home that belongs to them. If you're in good with certain people, you might get to keep it. I got to keep a laptop (dead now), an iPaq, and a pretty decent monitor that I had borrowed. Of course, I was laid off, maybe they we're trying to avoid an incident (it wasn't Friday, after all).

    1. Re:Two weeks and code! by BigGerman · · Score: 1

      it takes two weeks to take comments out of the code???

    2. Re:Two weeks and code! by de_boer_man · · Score: 1

      There are comments in code???

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  32. My stint at walmart by Monkelectric · · Score: 4, Funny
    Tech market is very bad, especially for guys like me who have pretty good resumes (I've been a sysadmin, programmer, consultant... people see my resume and they're like shit, we only need a programmer, not this other stuff). I was working at walmart, 12:00am to 9:00am 5 days a week. Worst schedule you can imagine. I used to work like a dog to "bust my freight" before like 4:00am. I'd clock out at 3:00 but keep working, clock in at 4:00am, then goto lunch for 3 hours -- of course at walmart they ILLEGALLY lock you into the building, so I would slip out the loading dock (no I don't feel bad about ripping off a company that locks its employees in).

    The worst thing I did... I worked in the shoe department (the worst department there is, even the janitors pitty you), this *HOT* girl is standing back towards me, looking at some shoes. As I walk by the says without looking at me, "What do you think of these ones?" to which I reply, "I'm sorry mam, for what occassion?" then it dawns on me she's probably flirting, and she says, "oh I thought you were my father, I'm sorry!" to which I reply, "Well, you never know ;-)" ... just as these words leave my lips a grumpy 50 year old man in overalls and a half shaved beard walks up behind me and says "I DON'T THINK SO SON!" Then it occurs to me the girl is more like 17 instead of 21. but oh well.

    Oh, topic ... um, so how I quit was, well nevermind it wasn't nearly as funny as that story.

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    Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    1. Re:My stint at walmart by cujo_1111 · · Score: 1

      Tech market is very bad, especially for guys like me who have pretty good resumes (I've been a sysadmin, programmer, consultant... people see my resume and they're like shit, we only need a programmer, not this other stuff).

      What? You don't customise your resume for each job you apply for?

      In the current market, it is a must to target your resume towards the job you are applying for. If they want a programmer, scale back the sysadmin detail while emphasising your programming skills. Don't go and lie because you WILL get caught out, but just expand on the truth and sell yourself to the companies. You will be surprised at how well this works.

      BTW If the chick was really hot, it is worth the risk of a beating from her old man...

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      If I point out that you are incorrect, making me a foe does not make you any more correct.
    2. Re:My stint at walmart by Peterl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the market is so bad, why can't we find any programmers to hire who can pass a dead-simple programming test?

    3. Re:My stint at walmart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Got a uRL?

    4. Re:My stint at walmart by DZign · · Score: 1

      everyone is afraid to leave their current position because they think the new job will be even worse

    5. Re:My stint at walmart by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 1

      Ae you targetting it to a specific language? If so, DON'T!

      If you issue a practical test, then do it in a completly made-up (or at least unknown) language (nothing arcane line Brainf*ck or anything though unless you are loking for infinitely hardcore people ;-)). Even if you just have the candidates write thier code, on paper, in english pseudocode, it would be better that than saying "in C, write this".

      Programming is a language-independant skill, do you want somebody who can show they program in this particular language or somebody who can efficiently move into any language without any prior experience.

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    6. Re:My stint at walmart by Caatje · · Score: 0

      LOL

    7. Re:My stint at walmart by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
      Because in the 90's a bunch of fucking IDIOTS thought they could make 80k a year by getting a CS degree and for awhile, they were right.

      Now real experts, real people like me who are in CS because thats what we were meant to do, are suffering. The last time I took a programming test I took it for DSR (defense company) and got 100%, and I was the only person *EVER* to get a perfect score -- and they didn't hire me :)

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      Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    8. Re:My stint at walmart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me guess.
      The simple test is to write a program
      which find your contact info.

    9. Re:My stint at walmart by canUbeleiveIT · · Score: 0

      I think I know why you didn't get the job. It's probably your 'look at me, I'm a genius' attitude.

      Seriously guy, when I hire people, the last thing that I'm looking for is someone who is driven to make sure that everyone else knows how smart he is.

    10. Re:My stint at walmart by aminorex · · Score: 1

      I'm pulling 114k right now, down from a peak of 120k in 2001. Your problem is that you are trying to get jobs working for places like DSR. If you go to work for an employer that needs real talent, you'll get real money.

      --
      -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
    11. Re:My stint at walmart by Eneff · · Score: 1

      Very simple... we ask you to come in for a test. You then study your ass off for a week, getting the fundamental parts of the language down. Perhaps you can even read a book on best practices in the language.

      And frankly, if someone came in and put on the test a psuedocode solution then an attempt in the java solution, that would be enough for us.

      And no, I've known wizards in one language but they didn't know how to translate that to other languages. (For that matter, I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a C++ job myself, even though I've picked up plenty of other languages.)

    12. Re:My stint at walmart by Monkelectric · · Score: 1

      Can you suggest one? Seriously. Programmers in Califronia are going for between 40 - 55 a year and THOSE jobs are very hard to come by.

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      Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    13. Re:My stint at walmart by NateTech · · Score: 1

      I honestly don't believe you that you can't find competant programmers. (And no, I'm not one.)

      There's something else wrong with the situation here. Perhaps the money isn't right, perhaps HR is screening people wrong, but it's damn near impossible NOT to be able to find programmers that need work.

      You're just not looking in the right places.

      Part of the story would apparently be that you're waiting around for HR to send you "canidates". Have all of the programmers at your organization no friends or collegues they would recommend to the company? If those people are already employed, is the company willing to make them a better offer to take them away from somewhere else?

      Have any of the programmers gone to job boards THEY would use or their favorite mailing lists (read: their community) and posted messages like "Hey, I'm not the hiring manager or even the HR person, but I know we've been looking for competant programmers that can handle doing X, Y, and Z." Possibly with a similar but not exactly the same programming question like the ones you give potential canidates after HR spoon-feeds them to you?

      Sounds fishy to me. Like EVERYONE's not very engaged in the process of making your company a success.

      Mention to the other programmers and HR that if the programmers want other good programmers, they're probably the best-qualified to know where programmers of their caliber live, what they do, how to reach them, etc. Tell HR to put a bounty on the heads. A good one.

      People will work in their spare time to find canidates if there's a reward at the end.

      --
      +++OK ATH
    14. Re:My stint at walmart by Peterl · · Score: 1

      Already doing/done all of that. Finding candidates who need work is no problem at all. Finding ones that actually:

      1) Have the skillset and depth of knowledge needed.
      2) Fit in with the team. ...is proving to be very hard.

      Using headhunters is producing some better candidates, but still not what one would expect.

    15. Re:My stint at walmart by NateTech · · Score: 1

      Depending on the amount of time you've spent searching, could any of the early canidates have been trained by now by more experienced team members to fix #1? There definitely is a break-even point on the time-line, even considering the loss of productivity to the senior employee, and without factoring in the benefits gained by requiring that employee to teach -- you learn the most while you're teaching.

      As far as #2, perhaps the team needs some instruction on learning to compromise and practicing a little personality diversity doesn't sound like it would hurt much either.

      Perhaps two of the less-experienced canidates at lower pay scales with a requirement that the team teach them what they want them to know that are as close as possible to the team's working style while still changing up the political rules a bit would be more wise than trying to find the one singular "perfect" canidate?

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    16. Re:My stint at walmart by gatkinso · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      >> Tech market is very bad, especially for guys like me who have pretty good resumes...

      Complete and utter horseshit.

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    17. Re:My stint at walmart by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Seriously guy, when I hire people, the last thing that I'm looking for is someone who is driven to make sure that everyone else knows how smart he is.

      Yeah. Give a test, and get rid of those that pass it. That sounds like you work in HR. A while back, I moved and needed a job. I was willing to take entry level to make ends meet. Well, I was MCSE (back before they grew on trees) and CCNA at the time, and had been working in computers for just under 5 years. But my degree is in psychology with a minor in computer engineering. I applied for a job for front-line tech support for a bank for their web site users. I got a call from HR that essentially informed me that MCSE, CCNA, and 4+ years of impeciable work history did not meet the minimum requirements for the job. It was B.S. in C.S. plus one year job experience or 5+ years of computer experience. All for a 1st level tech support position (like the one I'd left about 4 years before applying for that one).

      Seriously guy, when the people that hire people are that stupid, they will make sure the cream of the crop goes elsewhere. I'm smarter than most, and if that is a problem with you, then I'm glad I'm not working for you. I'd rather work for someone that notices that I'm competent and takes advantage of my skills.

    18. Re:My stint at walmart by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      Care to share the url/address?

    19. Re:My stint at walmart by canUbeleiveIT · · Score: 0

      Seriously guy, when the people that hire people are that stupid, they will make sure the cream of the crop goes elsewhere.

      See there ya go. You're just the type I wouldn't hire--always spouting off about their IQ, their certifications, their degrees, whining about their situation. I can just imagine you in the workplace--'Hey everybody look at me! I'm smart, look at me! I'm smarter than you. Or him. Or her...look at me!'

      I'm smarter than most, and if that is a problem with you, then I'm glad I'm not working for you. I'd rather work for someone that notices that I'm competent and takes advantage of my skills.

      That makes two of us that are glad you don't work for the company (that I own). After all, I need to make a profit, not sit around and tell you how brilliant you are and how impressed I am by your credentials. I'll give you a little tip--most highly successful people aren't that interested in how smart others think they are. They're usually too busy accomplishing.

    20. Re:My stint at walmart by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I am neither super smart and also out of work techie back at college.

      You also have an attitude as a boss I would not like. No offense but I certainly would not want to work for you with the type "I am better because I own my company... bla bla".

      I agree attitudes suck no matter how tallented someone is but if you need someone who really knows how to code well then your shutting down great tallent.

      Not everyone can be a good talent or know how to program well vs slapping something via an ide like VB.

    21. Re:My stint at walmart by canUbeleiveIT · · Score: 0

      You also have an attitude as a boss I would not like. No offense but I certainly would not want to work for you with the type I am better because I own my company... bla bla.

      I think that you misunderstand--I only mentioned that I own the company because the previous poster wrote that I must work in HR, with the insinuation that I didn't have the best interests of my organization at heart. If you check the parent posts, you will see that, unlike the previous posters, I didn't try in any way to compare myself to anyone else.

      Believe me, running this business has dispelled any notions that I might have had about how smart I am or how talented a manager I thought I was. Incidentally, being an out-of-work techie is how I ended up starting my own business--you might consider it yourself. You might be surprised how many small-to-medium sized businesses would be willing to pay you fairly well to render services.

      Best of luck on your studies and career.

    22. Re:My stint at walmart by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      See there ya go. You're just the type I wouldn't hire--always spouting off about their IQ, their certifications, their degrees, whining about their situation. I can just imagine you in the workplace--'Hey everybody look at me! I'm smart, look at me! I'm smarter than you. Or him. Or her...look at me!'

      So, you hire bums off the street. Anyone that can put together a decent resume (you know, the document that just spouts off about their certifications, degrees, situation) shouldn't be hired by you. You just want to surround yourself with bums from the street. You know, stupid people so you feel smarter. Most employers (everyone but you) wants ho hire competent people. You want to hire people with low IQs, no degrees, no certifications, and who think they are stupid and worthless.

      I'll give you a little tip--most highly successful people aren't that interested in how smart others think they are.

      Then you are obviously not highly successful. You spend way too much time trying to determine if someone thinks they are competent, then bashing them for it. Why does it bother you so much when there is someone that is well educated and competent? Is it because you are so unsure of yourself?

      Oh, and you are completely wrong. Most highly successful people are average intelligence with old money that surround themselves with intelligent people. They purposefully seek and surronud themselves with intelligent people. They are very focused on such traits. The second most successful group of people are people that are intelligent (or very lucky) to make some moderate fortune, then surround themselves with intelligent people. And yes, they look specifically for intelligence and seek it out.

      So, you appear to be somebody that is making no more than $200,000 per year that somehow makes them an expert in what actual "successful" people do and think...

  33. All seriousness aside by Masarius · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine thought up the best leaving job move I've ever heard of. His idea was to put his hands inside two raw chickens (dead ones) and run around the office banging his hands on peoples keyboards.

    If that doesn't burn you some bridges I don't know what will!

  34. one of the funniest tv ad for the french loto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:one of the funniest tv ad for the french loto by BJH · · Score: 2, Funny

      Direct link to video.

  35. Leave "gracefully" by moanads · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Look at it this way. Your company has allowed your boss to survive and maybe even flourish. You need to strike back and the only way you can do that is to conceal the truth. In your exit interview (if you do have one) don't say that you're leaving because of a PHB. Think up some other reason. If possible, praise your boss. That will mean that he'll be given more control in the company and will piss off more people, who will also leave. The people who leave will also share your opinion and that might indirectly make your boss unemployable in many other companies. They will also bad mouth your former employer wherever they go and that will make it difficult for your former employer to find replacements for the people who leave. At the very least, you will have the satisfaction that your former employer will have to look for more than one replacement after you leave. That's the best way to strike back at the environment which shelters PHBs.

    1. Re:Leave "gracefully" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So what I'm hearing is, you should screw over all the (former) coworkers still suffering under your former PHB, some of whom may actually *need* their jobs and not have an opportunity to leave like yourself? Just to make some clumsy jab at the efficacy of your business unit, even though you couldn't possibly predict whether or not it will actually cause long-term harm to the company as a whole?

    2. Re:Leave "gracefully" by winwar · · Score: 1

      "...even though you couldn't possibly predict whether or not it will actually cause long-term harm to the company as a whole?"

      A company that allows poor management to exist IS ALREADY causing long-term damage to the company ALL BY ITSELF. The fact that they do nothing about it indicates poor management extends above the immediate PHB. Poor management is easy to spot - it is rarely a secret which boss(es) is(are) really bad....

  36. Not Necessarily by Un0r1g1nal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Depends how good you are, my mate was on £23k a year ago, and had had enough, told his boss he wanted more money or he was off, so they gave him £26k, this year he didnt even have to approach his boss, they approached him and gave him £29k.

    The only problem is when your either crap and they don't want you any way, or your boss is an ass who thinks your bluffing. Then of course you are going to have to find a new job because you know they wont promote you anyway.

    --
    If at first you DON'T succeed, Skydiving is NOT for YOU!!
    1. Re:Not Necessarily by HangingChad · · Score: 1
      Then of course you are going to have to find a new job because you know they wont promote you anyway.

      Or you can do what I did...hung a copy of my real estate license on the wall behind my desk. That makes a statement, and that statement is I'm not bluffing. I'm careful not practice that trade at a customer site, but they know if they fired me I'd be working the other job full time before I got to the parking lot.

      I think sometimes you can play it too safe. Something like that could backfire, but so far it hasn't. In fact, I'd say it changes their perspective on things. Dick this guy around and he's going to tell us to stuff, hence they tend not to dick me around. If I get fired later I could suppose that I could've gotten dicked around for all that time, lived in fear of getting laid off and fired anyway. I don't need them to make a living, I don't need their recommendation to get another job, their non-compete is useless, I've paid off my credit cards and banked cash ahead and my health insurance comes from my wife's job. They have no leverage over me. It's very liberating.

      That was over a year ago and I've heard the question a number of times, "How do you get out of XYZ and the rest of have to?" Because I'm not taking shit anymore. Running my own non-IT business is not a bluff and they know it. It really evens out our relationship which, strangely enough, has actually improved. I'm not afraid to be completely honest with them. Did it change their attitude or mine? Probably a little of both. A constant reminder that our relationship is by mutual consent.

      --
      That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
    2. Re:Not Necessarily by pen · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between asking for (or even demanding) a raise, and threatening to accept a new offer. The new offer shows that you're already unhappy with your current job and have been looking elsewhere. Unless you're really irreplaceable, they'll wait until they've found a new person for the job and then fire you.

    3. Re:Not Necessarily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Depends how good you are, my mate was on £23k a year ago"

      We have £ signs on slashdot now?

      Whoooo!

    4. Re:Not Necessarily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, cool! That sig you've got there goes with your username quite well! (see parent)

  37. Should you stay or go... by Associate · · Score: 1

    Can you get a list of company email addresses? You know what to do. That pack rat next to you never clean up? Maybe a stinky piece of cheese or a dead rat stuck behind a wall plate will change his mind in a week or two. Office gossip? Return the favor. Tube of graphite in someone's new computer? Magnets in their monitor base? Get a photo and post them on a gay singles site. I think that's enough for now.

    --
    Someone hates these cans.
    1. Re:Should you stay or go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once saw someone who posted an address of a chick on alt.sex.wanted (this was years ago when Usenet was still Usenet). He certainly regretted the outcome.

  38. Movie "Office Space" by hppacito · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hei, that's the movie in which some people work for IT, and one day most of them get fired although they told every lie imaginable to the "evaluating team", and the only guy who escaped that was the one who just said the truth to them ?, and at last one guy burn the buiklding after discovering a 200 grand check or so ?, that was quite a good movie

    1. Re:Movie "Office Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I move we stop adding users when we hit 800,000. Do I hear a second?

  39. Pointless by devphil · · Score: 1


    Give them a two weeks notice and use that two weeks to start taking the comments out of your code!

    Just because you no longer work there doesn't mean you're immune from lawsuits.

    $ cvs up -D "a fortnight ago"
    $ cvs ci -m "Undo Bob's lameass attempt at sabotage"
    $ Mail -s "need to initiate legal action" headlawyer
    yah, it was Bob, all fixed now
    ^D

    And yes, "a fortnight ago" is a valid CVS time specification. (Probably grew out of people trying to follow that kind of advice... *grin*)

    --
    You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
    1. Re:Pointless by aminorex · · Score: 1

      As root on the svn box, I control the history of time itself.

      --
      -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
  40. Story of me leaving my previous job... by Sneeka2 · · Score: 1

    In my previous job I've been working in Ireland for some time. The job was so dissatisfying though that I spent almost all day surfing around monster.com to find another job. I finally came across a nice offer located in the Netherlands. I tossed some emails back and forth with the job agency, had a telephone interview or two and eventually got an invitation for a live interview. So I went to my supervisor, asking for two days off (to fly over to the Netherlands, which of course I didn't tell him). He didn't give me any time off, as we were a little short on people. I went anyway, planning to call in sick, which I forgot in the process though.

    I got the job in the Netherlands, went to my old job the next day as every morning, typed away a nice resignation letter, had a 10 minute talk with my boss where I told him how his company stinks (politely though) and left.

    Those where pretty fun days back then. ;o)

    --
    Bitten Apples are still better than dirty Windows...
  41. More to come... by NumberOneFan · · Score: 1
    Date: 3/17/2003
    Subject: After you - I insist
    From: Greg Boyle, IS Department

    Richard:

    Seriously - I'm extremely uncomfortable poking through SR's hard drive for files you insist you need. I'm not that interested in being the one who gets in trouble if it's discovered. Are you sure this is important enough to risk getting found out?

    Anyway, I think I grabbed nearly everything you asked for. Just to be safe, and just in case someone else somehow gets hold of this, I have encrypted the files the usual way. You need to determine the password in order to access the files, but that shouldn't be too difficult a task for a smart guy like you, I'm sure.

    Once I am done here, I will dispose of this computer, making sure the contents are irretrievable. I hope you approve.

    Fallaces sunt rerum species,
    GB

  42. Don't be Juvenile by fuzzybunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Discretely pack up your things and save any documentation or files you want to take along, and write a polite letter giving two weeks (or however much you agreed on) notice.

    Ask if "they" would like feedback, and write a list of what bugged you, what was good, and what could have been done better.

    Finish what you were working on if you can, offer to take care of any handover work, as you firmly should state that you will not be available for it after you have left.

    Don't burn bridges; it's not so much that these people might come back to haunt you someday, as that it's an adolescent thing to do.

    --
    Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage
    1. Re:Don't be Juvenile by lewp · · Score: 1

      Seeing as how the average workplace is more like high school than high school actually was, acting like an adolescent is often not wholly inappropriate.

      --
      Game... blouses.
    2. Re:Don't be Juvenile by TomSawyer · · Score: 1
      the average workplace is more like high school than high school actually was

      We should get a slashdot discussion going for this topic alone if it hasn't already gotten one. I seem to have once again gotten myself stuck in the "acceptable geek that can get you out of a jam, but isn't really a 'cool' kid" role.

      --
      If you disagree then it must be overrated, redundant or trolling.
    3. Re:Don't be Juvenile by mpol · · Score: 1

      Ask if "they" would like feedback, and write a list of what bugged you, what was good, and what could have been done better.

      I think this is the right way to do it. Ofcourse you can prefer to do it different, but this way is the clean way. If you really feel you have good reasons to leave, then just say it like that. If there were situations or events that directly led to wanting you to leave, you should tell about them.
      Being an asshole when you leave just gives them an excuse to lose respect for you and dismiss any critical comments of you. Being honest about it should gain you respect. If not from your boss then from your co-workers or simply from yourself.
      If you have been doing a good job there, they "should" listen to you and take notice even though your future will be at another place.

      --

      Well, don't worry about that. We can get you back before you leave. (Dr. Who)
    4. Re:Don't be Juvenile by straybullets · · Score: 1

      Don't burn bridges it's an adolescent thing to do

      Well yes, but let's not forget the poster "got a (completely unwarranted) PHB-style threatening lecture last week about my work habits" .

      Sometimes these managers think they are the real mac coy and have everything in the world figured out, be that "work habits", "global economics", "future of computing" et al ... What they really are is just another cog in the machine, repeating like copycats the same corp bulshit every manager repeats.

      It's good that someone sets them straigh once in while. You don't have to be rude or violent, but you can make it clear that since you are leaving you have the chance to speak some truth.

      As of being blacklisted or whatever i don't believe any of it. Unless you do something really stupid, people will just forget, and as time goes by you could even work with them again !

      --
      With that aggravating beauty, Lulu Walls.
    5. Re:Don't be Juvenile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, tell me about it. I'm in the same sort of role.
      Get a phone call - "Hey, can you help me fix XXX? It's really urgent". Job gets done, "Thanks, you're a star". A week later, it's "No, I can't help you with that, it's not my job."

      Gee thanks, asshole.

    6. Re:Don't be Juvenile by bob65 · · Score: 1
      Seeing as how the average workplace is more like high school than high school actually was,

      Yeah, what the HELL is with that? When I went to college, I thought that I could leave all that immature stuff behind, and that was true (mostly). But when I started my first job, I was taken aback by the level of immaturity in the workplace - it just didn't make sense to me. I mean, from a naive point of view, if this stuff was left behind in highschool, and diminished during college, then WHY do these people (most of which are older than college students, and thus further along in their lives, implying wisdom, maturity, etc.) act like 15-18 year olds? And by immaturity, I mean stuff like name-calling, bullying, talking behind others' backs, this whole "I'm better than you, neener neener" attitude, whining ("this is too hard, I don't wanna do it"), laziness, obnoxious "Girl Power!!" attitude (it was pretty much accepted by college that neither girls nor boys should have special privileges or treatment), etc.

      Does anyone have a reasonable explanation?

  43. That's what happened to me once by eleknader · · Score: 5, Informative

    Few years ago I was about to leave to another company and a position.

    I told my boss I was leaving, we started organizing my duties to my colleagues etc.

    Few days later I was told from my new employer, that my deal has just changed: completely different position. They told me this change by _email_!

    I was very happy, that I was nice to my old boss. He let me stay, and I worked about one year after this at my old job.

    So, I'd recommend being nice for your boss :)

    Eleknader

  44. Re:Piss on servers by Hank+Reardon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your company can't take any legal action against you because of this. You didn't degrade the network nor the hardware. You didn't hurt anyone. But they will have to tidy up :)

    Actually, they can take legal action. Criminal legal action, at that. Any damage done to the machines would count as vandalism; over a certain threshhold of monetary damage and the action moves into felony range.

    There are also laws on the books regarding not only relieving one's self in public, but you could probably fit excreta into the definition of hazardous or medical waste; certainly improper disposal laws would apply in this case.

    Finally, if somebody happens to walk in during the... er... process of elimination, it's called indecent exposure. Were he to be convicted of that last count, it means manditory registration as a sex offender.

    As fun as it might sound, I wouldn't consider it worth the risks.

    --
    There's so little difference between politics and jihad lately...
  45. Re:here's a story by oKtosiTe · · Score: 0

    So what you're saying is... your post isn't redundant.
    My post would be both redundant and trollish if I ware to say he's an idiot now, so I won't.

    Who cares, my karma sucks anyway...

  46. The best way would be to by Digital+Dharma · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Install Red Hat on your boss's machine. That will surely make him miserable!

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    End of Line.
  47. Two Basic Approaches by fm6 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    1. Do some kind of childish stunt. That might make you feel good for a while, but it won't convince your asshole boss that he treated you badly. In fact, he'll use your childishness to justify his assholedness. "You see why I was easing him out?"
    2. You can find some way to make upper management aware that you're leaving in part because your boss is an asshole. Think out that will make him look with his boss.
    That's the basic choice. I'm sure you can fill in the details yourself.
  48. Is your boss bald? by antifoidulus · · Score: 1

    If so you can always leave your job the Homer Simpson way and play your boss's head like a bongo.

  49. Mod Parent Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never have mod points when I want them!

  50. style != flaming bridges by jamesh · · Score: 1

    a lot of people here assume that 'style' means 'pissing of as many of your superiors and possibly cow-orkers as possible'.

    Try to go for something that everyone, including your boss (unless s/he is a real prick), will think 'wow. what a cool guy.'

    Unfortunately I can't think of anything that wouldn't just make 'em mad :)

    1. Re:style != flaming bridges by leitz · · Score: 1
      "Style" may mean doing your best for two weeks at your old company. Spend time handing off your tasks and talk to the people who are getting the extra work load. If you're smart you've figured out ways to make the task easier/faster/better, let them in on it. They will appreciate it and remember you longer than they would have laughed at whatever stunt you might pull.

      Spend time documenting your thoughts on how things work and provide a "run book". Help train your replacement(s). I did this at a company when I was a contractor. A year later I'm in a room and the Help Desk supervisor burst in exclaiming how glad she was that I was back with the company. She didn't realize it was my interview. And yes, I got the job and a good salary after she mentioned they were *still* using the documentation I had written. ;)

      If you want to feel important, do something to someone else. If you want to *be* important, do something *for* someone else.

  51. Don't do anything malicious by spineboy · · Score: 1
    If you write a letter that's like "My PHB is a flamming *sshole who smells like vomit, kills babies" - it will be dismissed, and thrown out. If you write a mature letter about why you are leaving, the company might actually enact some changes, making it more pleasant for other people who are there possibly who are in the same boat as you.
    Be constructive, mature and professional - you'll be bound to run into some of these folks again.

    Now having said that is it that your boss is malicious, and you want to take an eye for an eye? Have you really been an exemplary employee? So you really want to make work unpleasant for the rest of the possibly innocent folks by doing something juvenille?

    The best thing to do is to give your 2 weeks notice, and WORK 9-5 dilligently, but at an unstressed level. Who knows, you might encourage a little velvet revolution after you leave.

    --
    ..........FULL STOP.
  52. Don't be an idiot by bushidocoder · · Score: 1

    Give two weeks notice, and leave politely. Its not about burning bridges - its about creating a stigma for yourself. After all, what will your new employer think of someone who has a job now but is available to start "immediately" - that's a bad first impression.

  53. I have refused people jobs on this account by pkphilip · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The scenario that you have just presented is something that I have personally dealt with..

    I had someone who applied to me for work and as I interviewed him, it became clear to me that he was quite good and I fully intended to recruit him.

    But towards the end of the interview when I asked him when he would be willing to join, he stated something along the lines that "sooner is better" since he wanted to slight those who were then employing him.

    I told him that I couldn't employ someone with that attitude and he lost, what would otherwise have been, an excellent job.

    1. Re:I have refused people jobs on this account by BubbleNOP · · Score: 1

      I had the opposite experience. Almost every place where I interviewed put pressure on me to be able to start immediately. I had to explain to them over and over that I cannot just leave my current job without notice. Unfortunately I lost some job opportunities because of this.

  54. Re:here's a story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bitch please...

  55. No Fucking Shit -- Re:Movie "Office Space" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thank-you, Captain Obvious!

  56. Don't be an idiot..... by jsimon12 · · Score: 1

    The world is a lot smaller then you think and eventually whatever you do at this job will come back to haunt you. So unless you are independently wealthy and work for fun I would advise you to be professional and just turn in your notice and leave it at that. Making an ass out of yourself by doing something funny will only be a detriment later.

    1. Re:Don't be an idiot..... by aminorex · · Score: 1

      "Professionalism" is grossly over-rated. I don't do business with self-styled "professionals". I hire people with talent and personality. I buy from people with good shit. And any "professionals" that come knocking can go back to their nazi rat holes and imagine their jackbooted heels stomping endlessly on a human face for kicks.

      --
      -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
  57. Stanley Cup Style by p.rican · · Score: 2, Funny
    I know someone who is a major Pittsburgh Penguins fan and has been stuck in a miserable IT job for the last couple of years. He's finally been offered a position with another company so he also decided to leave in style. He gave one hour notice, went back to his cube, got dressed up in full Pittsburgh Penguin hockey gear including his inline skates and just began skating around the cube farm with a home-made Stanley Cup over his head.

    Don't ask me what his point was...... It was just funny to watch because PHB got even more pissed but had no idea what to do........

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    /. --"Demented and sad....but social" -Judd Nelson

    1. Re:Stanley Cup Style by Tom7 · · Score: 1

      They had ice around their cube farm?

    2. Re:Stanley Cup Style by karnal · · Score: 1

      That part that says "inline skates" would probably clue most people in to the fact that these particular skates had wheels on them.

      For the love of pete....

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      Karnal
    3. Re:Stanley Cup Style by Tom7 · · Score: 1

      Inline skates on ice? That's crazy!

  58. by Telegram by Phillip2 · · Score: 1

    In the good old days the only way to communicate long distance was by telegram. Journalists used to send stories, and get instructions in this way. You got charged by the word, so a texting like short hand, called telegraphese developed. Some of the best telegrams reached the levels of poetry. My favourite one was actually a resignation letter, and it was just four words...

    "Up stuff job arsewise"

    If you're leaving a job, do so in style, my advice.

    Phil

  59. Re:Piss on servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Many years ago, a highway worker fixing a bridge decided to leak off the side of the bridge. But he chose to do so directly over the charged street car wire directly below. A cool 600 volts DC.

    This idea made me recall the story above. Hope the servers are turned off!

  60. Take the high road by codejnki · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Be faithful and give your two weeks. Let them know that this new oprotunity will give you more room to grow than you've felt that your current working conditions will currently allow for. And for added bonus, bring in bagels or doughnuts on your last day. That my friend, is style.

    --
    "War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left"

    Steven Wright

    1. Re:Take the high road by bob65 · · Score: 1
      And for added bonus, bring in bagels or doughnuts on your last day.

      I don't know, with some of the stuff people have suggested doing in this discussion, I'm not sure if I would want to eat those bagels or doughnuts...

  61. Going out with a thud by qwijibo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It may feel good to go out with a bang, but other than that, what's the point? Anything dramatic that you do will just reflect negatively on you. Not only with management, the people who are the butt of the joke, but with other coworkers that you have nothing against, some who you may even get along with.

    If those people who respect you know that you're leaving because of the BS environment, but you're still professional, give two weeks notice, etc, they may look you up in the future when they need someone with your skillset.

    I once worked for a company where management would throw temper tantrums and threaten to fire everyone. That's how hostile they were. For my review, my performance and productivity was praised, and I was offerred a "promotion" from hourly to salaried at the same rate. Since this company actual docked people's pay for showing up late and/or leaving early, and required salaried people to work unpaid overtime, I recognized this as the paycut it was. While it may have been fun to screw over the company, I did something much worse. I left, giving about 10 minutes notice. The people I worked with knew it was because of the hostile and dishonest management. Apparently they had some serious problems after that.

    I've never heard anyone look back on what they've done in the past and say "I wish I had been less professional at that job". On the other hand, I've heard of things that people have done in the past that I would hold against them if I were doing the hiring.

    Revenge is fun and intensely satisfying. However, it's a tool that can only be used for evil, never for good. What goes around, comes around. Those who treat people poorly will get theirs. Do you really want to get yours?

    1. Re:Going out with a thud by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

      FYI docking a salaried employee's pay for being late / leaving early and then at the same time requiring unpaid overtime is illegal. Either you're salaried or you're not. If they want to go by straight salary with no overtime pay, then they can't dock for being late. At the very least, this is a horrible working environment and I'm sure you weren't the only one wanting to leave. A hostile current or former employee could cause them some real trouble if they wanted to pursue the pay docking issue with an employment lawyer.

    2. Re:Going out with a thud by qwijibo · · Score: 1

      Yes, it was certainly illegal. They had many employment law violations going on. However, in the grand scheme of things, their employement law violations were the least of their legal liabilities.

      My personal favorite policy was that to avoid paying for vacations, they required people to quit before going on vacation and they would be rehired when they came back. I was looking for another job while working there. If I had found one, I would have scheduled "vacation" just so everything would show that I quit that job, and they would be left high and dry when I never came back.

    3. Re:Going out with a thud by chimpo13 · · Score: 1

      If you're friends with anyone who's trapped in that hell-hole, advise them to call the labor board.

      The best way I quit a job (in high school at Taco Bell) was working one night closing the place. They'd have us work unpaid overtime because they figured it would take 30 minutes to shut down so they'd clock us out after 30 minutes. Sometimes on bad nights we'd be there 3 hours. So I'm working the closing shift, and I'm on my break. The supervisor said, "Breaks over" and I say, "Okay, I quit" and peeled off my uniform. One of the co-workers said the boss cried after I left because it really screwed up the night.

      It wasn't until after this that I realized the power of calling the Labor Board. If only I could go back in time...

      Of course several of the employees knowing they were getting screwed would spit in food, re-use meat dumped on the ground, and do even more horrible stuff to food. Word of experience: always be extra polite when going through the drive-thru. It's been nearly 20 years since then, and I still don't trust high school aged fast food employees.

  62. Re:Piss on servers by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 5, Funny
    Honesly, the last day, go to your data center and piss on your company's servers.

    Ah, nothing like a stream of highly conductive liquid between your genitals and something containing thousands of volts...

    --
    This is not my sandwich.
  63. This is what I tried to do... by StressGuy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Before I start, it's worth noting that it's probably better advice to "take the high road" and not let their actions effect your professionalism.

    That being said, here is one time when I tried to break my own advice. Among the many problems that one company I worked for had was a "diversity program" that was nothing more than giving certain contracts or benifits to specific cultural/ethinic/social groups to the exclusion of anyone else. I decided that, when I left, I would have a little fun with that policy. I did the appropriate research and, when we had the meeting where I would announce my resignation to the team, I would instead announce that I had been accepted as a candidate for sexual reassignment surgery. Furthermore, in about two weeks, I would begin my 18 month "real life test" and would start coming to work in my female persona.

    Sadly however, my supervisor stole my thunder by just blurting out that I was resigning. Coulda had a lot of fun with that.

    On the plus side though, I did learn something new about "gender dysphoria" in the process of trying to learn enough to sound authentic at the meeting.

    --
    A goal is a dream with a deadline
  64. count down by lee+n.+field · · Score: 1

    Last bad job I voluntarily left, back in 1991, I gave 2 weeks notice, then counted down the seconds. I still get nightmares about the place, sometimes.

  65. When you return... by d_p · · Score: 1

    ... after your new job doesn't work out, you can choose the big door labelled 'Applicants' or crawl through the little door lablled 'Supplicants'.

    1. Re:When you return... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pussy. Do you go back to your ex-girlfriend that you couldn't stand after your current relationship doesn't work out? The world would be better off without your type.

  66. my favorite job reference by phats+garage · · Score: 1

    "nobody would be better for that job".

    1. Re:my favorite job reference by Tom7 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Best president since Clinton."

  67. I would agree, however... by StressGuy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If instead of coming at them with "give me what I want or I'm out of here", you instead make the case that you are actually worth more on the open market, you won't necessarily be putting your employer in a box. He can, in fact, look at it one of three ways:

    1) He could disagree, in which case you can turn that into an amicable parting of the ways. I.e. I've found an offer more suitable to my career growth and I've decided to take it. I left a job like this once. I was turned down for a promotion, but a former partner of thiers offered me a position in thier company similar to what I was trying to get promoted to.

    2) He could agree, but decide that he doesn't require an employee of your skill level. In this case, it becomes clear to both of you that it's time for you to leave in order to grow in your career. When you do move on, both sides understand and agree as to why.

    3) He could agree, at which point it is up to him to decide if he can pay you an appropriate "market value" or tell you that he can't afford it. If it's the former, you've made your case and there is no loss of respect, if it's the latter, both sides understand why it's time for you to move on.

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    A goal is a dream with a deadline
  68. Report them for piracy by BadluckShleprock · · Score: 2, Informative

    After I was (honorably) discharged from the Army, I was working for a computer dealer until I could get a better job. They kept promising me a promotion if I would just stay with them. I kept hearing "give us a couple more weeks". In addition, my supervisor would come in every day and complain about how her husband doesn't want to have sex with her, she would berate me because I was "religously undecided", the owners would insult me because I was 23 years old and had graduated college yet, the technicians didn't like me because I knew more than they did about fixing computers, etc. It paid the bills, but I could only take so much, and after about 10 months I decided that it was a waste of my time to even show up there, so I quit.

    The day after I finally left, I called the software piracy hotline and told them about the following things that they flagrantly did:

    1) Whenever someone ordered a piece of software through them, no matter what it was, they would break the shrinkwrap and make an ISO image of the disc(s) in the box. If someone asked what happened to the shrinkwrap, they would just say that they were testing it to make sure it worked. After all, any computer savvy person would order online or go to CompUSA.

    2) They purchased a single user version of some server software, then the two owners (who had PhD's in computer science) unlocked it for unlimited users.

    3) They owned one copy of Windows, M$ office, etc., but installed it on 20 or so computers. While this is common, it's still a flagrant violation of the license.

    4) They ordered a trial version of a fax/pbx system (PCI expansion cards). After the trial period was up, they claimed the $10,000 worth of software and hardware had been hit by lightning, unlocked the trial period block, and ended up with a free fax and PBX system.

    About a month after I left, they were raided by the police, the owners arrested, and all of their equipment was sold at auction for pennies on the dollar.

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    There's a fine line between cuddling and holding someone down so they can't get away.
    1. Re:Report them for piracy by BoomerSooner · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Welcome to the world of republicans. They all bitch about lazy people who need government hand-outs and then proceed to work for the government for the rest of their lives because they cannot make it in the real work force. I'd bet over 90% of all ass-wipe government employees are republicans, especially on base (militiary bases).

      Hypocrites till the end.

    2. Re:Report them for piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but did you bang the sex-starved wife?

    3. Re:Report them for piracy by BadluckShleprock · · Score: 1

      She was a real tight-a$$. She seemed like the type of woman that considered sex to be a dirty, filthy thing that you were only supposed to do to make babies (and you weren't allowed to enjoy it). Other than that, very bangable.

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      There's a fine line between cuddling and holding someone down so they can't get away.
  69. What I did by Quill_28 · · Score: 0

    Where I used to work a certain guy, who can of 'owned' the computer systems, gave everyone a hard time, but especially me.

    The day I left I got his e-mail account, and 'he' sent email out saying what a great guy I was and he was sorry for ever treating me bad. It went on and on.

    He is still mad from what I understand.

  70. Best resignation letter by theinfobox · · Score: 5, Funny

    I doubt this is a true letter, but the friend I received it from swears it is true....
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    Following is a supposed letter of resignation from an employee at a computer company, to her boss, who apparently resigned very soon afterwards! It's Funny, but a bit harsh

    Dear Mr. Smith,
    As a graduate of an institution of higher education, I have a few very basic expectations. Chief among these is that my direct superiors have an intellect that ranges above the common ground squirrel. After your consistent and annoying harassment of my co-workers and me during the commission of our duties, I can only surmise that you are one of the few true genetic wastes of our time.

    Asking me, a network administrator, to explain every little nuance of everything I do each time you happen to stroll into my office is not only a waste of time, but also a waste of precious oxygen. I was hired because I know how to network computer systems, and you were apparently hired to provide amusement to myself and other employees, who watch you vainly attempt to understand the concept of "cut and paste" for the hundredth time.

    You will never understand computers. Something as incredibly simple as binary still gives you too many options. You will also never understand why people hate you, but I am going to try and explain it to you, even though I am sure this will be just as effective as telling you what an IP is. Your shiny new iMac has more personality than you ever will.

    You walk around the building all day, shiftlessly looking for fault in others. You have a sharp dressed useless look about you that may have worked for your interview, but now that you actually have responsibility, you pawn it off on overworked staff, hoping their talent will cover for your glaring ineptitude. In a world of managerial evolution, you are the blue-green algae that everyone else eats and laughs at. Managers like you are a sad proof of the Dilbert principle. Since this situation is unlikely to change without you getting a full frontal lobotomy reversal, I am forced to tender my resignation, however I have a few parting thoughts.

    1. When someone calls you in reference to employment, it is illegal for you to give me a bad recommendation. The most you can say to hurt me is "I prefer not to comment." I will have friends randomly call you over the next couple of years to keep you honest, because I know you would be unable to do it on your own.

    2. I have all the passwords to every account on the system, and I know every password you have used for the last five years. If you decide to get cute, I am going to publish your "favorites list", which I conveniently saved when you made me "back up" your useless files. I do believe that terms like "Lolita" are not usually viewed favorably by the administration.

    3. When you borrowed the digital camera to "take pictures of your Mother's birthday," you neglected to mention that you were going to take pictures of yourself in the mirror nude. Then you forgot to erase them like the techno-moron you really are. Suffice it to say I have never seen such odd acts with a sauce bottle, but I assure you that those have been copied and kept in safe places pending the authoring of a glowing letter of recommendation. (Try to use a spell check please; I hate having to correct your mistakes.)

    Thank you for your time, and I expect the letter of recommendation on my desk by 8:00 am tomorrow. One word of this to anybody, and all of your little twisted repugnant obsessions will be open to the public. Never f*** with your systems administrator. Why? Because they know what you do with all that free time!

    1. Re:Best resignation letter by legirons · · Score: 1
      "My job consists of basically masking my contempt for the assholes in charge, and, at least once a day, retiring to the men's room so I can jerk off while I fantasize about a life that doesn't so closely resemble hell.

      Well, you obviously have no interest in saving yourself.

      I've spent fourteen years being a whore for the advertising industry. The only way I could save myself now is to start firebombing.


      Whatever. Management wants you gone by the end of the day.

      Whoa. What kind of severance package is "management" prepared to give me? Considering the information I have about our editorial director buying pussy with company money.

      Which I'm sure would interest the I.R.S., since, technically, it does constitute fraud. And some of our advertisers and rival publications might like to know about it as well. Not to mention Craig's wife.


      "What do you want?"

      One year's salary, with continued benefits.

      That's not going to happen.

      What if I throw in a little sexual harassment charge?

      Against who?

      Against you.

      Can you prove you didn't offer to save my job if I'd let you blow me?


      Man. You are one twisted fuck.

      Nope. Just an ordinary guy with nothing to lose.

      - American beauty, Alan Ball, 1999
  71. Unfortunate double standard by jbarr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's an interesting dilema because of the unfortunate double-standard that exists: companies certainly won't hesitate to immediatly show you the door without any notice if THEY want to get rid of you, but you are "expected" to give them up to two or more weeks when YOU want to leave. Obviously, this is not compulsary, but it's highly traditional.

    It all really depends on your situation. The best bet is to not burn bridges because you never know when you may need the resources of the company or your colleagues in the future. Just come up with an equitable compromise.

    Remember that YOU are in the driver's seat. YOU are the one making the decision, not them. And stand by your decision--if they offer you more money or a promotion, absolutely turn it down and take the new job. Are really suddenly worth more to them now? Is staying really in your best interest? If you stay, it shows that you are not willing to stand by your word.

    Just don't be shocked if they ask you to leave immediatly.

    --
    My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
    1. Re:Unfortunate double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...companies certainly won't hesitate to immediatly show you the door without any notice if THEY want to get rid of you, but you are "expected" to give them up to two or more weeks when YOU want to leave.

      Amen. That sort of thinking has never made sense to me. The company probably has many employees, but you probably only have one job. And they need the notice more than you?

      I equate the mentality with those who "believe in giving a 50-hour work week". Give it up. Unless you're extremely lucky, your company doesn't give a shit about you. Stop being such a doormat.

      Sometimes people wonder whatever happened to employee loyalty. My response: It got laid off in the last round.

    2. Re:Unfortunate double standard by IpSo_ · · Score: 1

      Hardly a double standard at all. Employers can show you the door anytime they want, as long as they give you a minimum of TWO WEEKS PAY! (In Canada anyways) Assuming you didn't do anything that justified them (according to the labor standards act) to fire you on the spot.

      It's only fair that an employee gives two weeks notice before he/she leaves. The employee could always give back two weeks of pay I suppose to make it "truly" fair, but like anyone would do that.

      If anything, the employer gets screwed 99.9% of the time.

      --
      Open Source Time and Attendance, Job Costing a
    3. Re:Unfortunate double standard by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, in the US you can be out the door without any pay in under 5 minutes.

      In many ways, canada is a much more civilized place than the US.

      --
      I still have more fans than freaks. WTF is wrong with you people?
    4. Re:Unfortunate double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I belive that is dependent on which state you are in. Some of them have more employee-friendly laws then others.

    5. Re:Unfortunate double standard by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      But the nasty meeting he had with his boss about his work could easily be used to justify his termination.

      So even in Canada he could get the door within 5 minutes because of poor performance evaulations and to the fact that he left the company which could be labelled as disloyality and subobordination.

  72. Take This Job and Shove It by Yonder+Way · · Score: 1

    You can get on the all-call on the phone system and pipe in the country-western classic "Take This Job & Shove It". I had a job I hated badly and had a hotkey for playing that song to make it expedient to do it when I was ready.

    In the end, I never did. Didn't want to burn any bridges. But it felt nice to have a fun plan ready for execution.

  73. How I left by wtom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I had a pretty nice job with a large, large company, I totally loved it the first three years - was "Sr. Network Support Analyst" - was responsible for about 400-500 seats among 3 facilities, as well as several other responsibilities that spanned our division (PC Security, head of the y2k effort on intel platforms, I did the division intranet, a few other things too), handled two big wiring projects at two of our facilities.

    We went through several mergers, where our division bought smaller (and one pretty big) company, and, well, merged them into our business. I went with the flow on all of them, even the second to last one where the company we bought was almost as big as our division up to that point. Those IT guys became my new bosses, and they were cool. everything went good for maybe another year. Previously, I had went through 95 to 98 conversions, then 98-w2k conversions a few years later. We even went from AS400-based systems to SAP, and everyone knows how much fun that is.

    Let me mention that I was Golden Boy in this division, even after all the new mergers and conversions and y2k, etc. I took great (and I hope understated) pride in that my team met our objectives on time, and often on budget. I saved the company several thousands of dollars by moving most TCP/IP services over to Linux(like dhcp, dns, ftp, the intranet, etc). It worked so well, we used Linux as printservers for the SAP system when it went in. (The actual machines running SAP were in remote, hosted locations). So, in large part, I was the go-to guy in our division - and I loved it. Worked long hours maintaining cool equipment - it was great.

    The unions up north went on strike, down here in the south, we had no unions. The higher ups decided to expand the biggest plant down here in the south, and tell the unions where to stick it. They did all of the planning in secret, and the morons DID NOT INCLUDE IT/PHONE CONSIDERATIONS IN THE PLANNING AT ALL! Being the IT guy, I knew this was coming, but the higher ups were unwilling to discuss it with me until it was going to be made public. I did not know how fast it would be, though. Construction started within a WEEK of the announcement. What's more, they did not consider any budget increase.

    The division was not-so-well managed. I was the one who notified the head of our IT department - he either had no clue about it or he was lying. Given that the guy is pretty cool, and the division was pretty badly mismanaged, I honestly believe he did not know about it. From what I hear, it was a closely guarded secret to keep the union from finding out until the last possible second.

    So, after the public announcement, you may well imagine I was jumping through hoops. Our data/phone center was a modular office type thing in the middle of a huge manufacturing plant, by design it was pretty much in the middle of the plant. They decided to move the data center into a corner, out of the way for a while. It was QUITE amusing to tell them I thought it would take anywhere from 500k to 1 mill to move it, and re-run all the cabling. I got the blank, puppy dog look when I told them that IT operations would be severely interrupted for the duration. The time frame they wanted this done in was, shall we say, unrealistic. It would have required several wiring companies 24-hour shifts, and even then I doubt it would have worked.

    Then our division merged with another division in the same large corporation. This happened within weeks of the construction announcement, and the subsequent scramble to get a working plan. _That_ IT management team became everyone's new boss. So, _Their_ head IT guy came in, and "took over". This means that he made a bunch of unrealistic promises, and told everyone to come to me if they had problems.

    So, at this point, I and my one assistant were trying to juggle our normal support duties, dealing with plans for the construction, trying to handle NEW responsibilities with all the mfg lines and eqpt and peopl

    --

    Styrofoam IS biodegradable, you're just impatient!
  74. Get an offer letter... FIRST. by Fished · · Score: 5, Insightful
    When I've switched jobs (quite a bit in the 90's) I always insisted on getting a written letter of offer stating my salary etc. before I would say _ANYTHING_ to my currenty employer. Many people have been burned by moving to a new job, only to "discover" that the salary and benefits discussed were "talking points" and "accounting won't let us do that." With an offer letter, you can sue for all kinds of damages. Without one, you get butkis. I read a book on employment law a couple of years ago, and his remark was that, inevitably, the side with the biggest stack of paper wins.

    Also, I would strongly urge you not to quit "with style." What you call "with style" is really anything but. You should always try to maintain cordial and polite relationships with your former employer. Every job I've ever left, I've given a written letter of resignation, naming my last day (at least two weeks, sometimes more) and letting them know that I would be available free for "quick questions" on a short term basis to ease the transition. (I did not state, but implied, that if it was more than a "quick question" they should expect to pay me for my time.)

    In 2000, this served me well. I had just left a large Internet Company, and discovered the company I went with was going out of business after only two months. I went back to work for the Internet Company, got a pay raise and full-time telecommuting. And that's the job I've held for the past 4 years through a crappy economy while all the other geeks were whining about outsourcing.

    Bridges are good, a thing of utility and a thing of beauty. Never burn them unnecessarily.

    --
    "He who would learn astronomy, and other recondite arts, let him go elsewhere. " -- John Calvin, commenting on Genesis 1
    1. Re:Get an offer letter... FIRST. by aminorex · · Score: 1

      It's bupkis.

      Noch a chochem!

      --
      -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
    2. Re:Get an offer letter... FIRST. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he meant "without an offer letter, you get butt kiss"

    3. Re:Get an offer letter... FIRST. by Monkelectric · · Score: 1

      Happened to a friend of mines brother. They offered him a *NICE* salary in a town about a hundred miles away. He moved his family out there, BOUGHT A HOUSE, and they only gave him about 70% of what they had offered him. Problem was he took the job on a handshake so there was *NO* proof.

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      Religion is a gateway psychosis. -- Dave Foley

    4. Re:Get an offer letter... FIRST. by nine4mortal · · Score: 1

      >With an offer letter, you can sue for
      >all kinds of damages. Without one, you
      >get butkis. I read a book on employment
      >law a couple of years ago, and his
      >remark was that, inevitably, the side
      >with the biggest stack of paper wins.

      IANAL but I think this depends on the state. California, for example, is an "at will" state which means that your employer can terminate your employment at anytime with no reason. This issue came up for a classmate of mine who got an offer letter and moved from the East Coast to CA to take a job. He had an offer letter, etc. When he got there, he discovered he had been laid off before his start date. There was discussion of this among alumni and the general belief was that his employer was unlikely to be liable for more than two week's severance pay. (He did not have a signing bonus and had already gotten his relocation assistance, I believe, so these were not issues.)

      Don't get me wrong, the piece of paper is good to have, but it is more useful for dealing with a situation where the people you were dealing with leave and you need documentation of the agreement reached as a practical matter. I do not think it is worth much as a legal matter. Any lawyers out there?

      --
      Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die...
  75. Advice about the new job by hey! · · Score: 1

    OK, you got a lot of good advice about leaving your old job, basically, don't burn bridges.

    Let me give you advice about your new job, which also applies to leaving your old one: don't be an asshole because your boss is an asshole. Do you want to be the whining negativist? DO you want to be a downtrodden sad sack? Show some spine! Be the kind of person you want to be, not the kind of person your boss forces you to be.

    So, your boss wants you to do something stupid. Take him aside, and in a confidential and non-confrontational way, show him you have a better way. If he insists on going ahead, do the best you can. If it is as stupid as you think, he has nobody to blame but himself.

    Suppose your boss wants to exploit you. Well, if you're smart, you've saved some money and aren't living paycheck to paycheck, so you can politely decline to be exploited. If you have money in the bank, and the paycheck they're giving you is just too good to walk away from, then it's just a tough deal, it's not exploitation.

    Take it from an older guy who's lived a number of nasty job scenarios. 90% of happiness in life is the ability to live it on your own terms. You can't always dictate the situation you're in, or the people you have to work with. The only thing you have complete control over is your own behavior. If you act like an asshole, it may feel good for a moment, but in the end you feel like an asshole.

    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
    1. Re:Advice about the new job by aminorex · · Score: 1

      Y'all keep going on, railing against revenge and such, but the question wasn't limited to negative
      reactionary strategies. It's an open-ended creative opportunity for self-expression, which can well be to the benefit and edification of every one involved. Sure, revenge can be sweet if it is an execution of justice, but there are an infinite variety of things that you can't do when working for an anal employer, things that are enjoyable, heartening, even helpful or inspiring, which an exit plan frees you to do.

      --
      -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
    2. Re:Advice about the new job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      always leave saying you're offered more all the way around. make it sound so good that the miserable people there get hope of leaving. maybe they'll have to do something to improve things.

  76. Just leave and don't tell anyone! by slasher999 · · Score: 1

    I've pulled that one once and it worked quite well. I went to lunch after one of those lectures and that was the last they ever saw of me. Another good idea when you pull this stunt is to change your phone number to really screw with them.

  77. Check company policy by sysadmn · · Score: 1

    At one place I worked, the policy was that if you were going to work for a competitor (defined pretty broadly), you were escorted out the door immediately and given a check for your notice. Of course, once layoffs started, word got around. People who found better jobs would give four weeks notice. Then refuse to say who their new employer was. Usually the people they lost this way were the ones they didn't want to lose - the screwups held on for dear life until RIF'd.

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    Envy my 5 digit Slashdot User ID!
  78. Take an extended medical leave of absence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a physician to sign off on a 1-2 month leave of absence, and then start your new job during the LOA. You'll get a smaller check than usual from your first job, plus a big ole check from your new job.

    Then, after the course of the LOA is complete, call in sick for a few days. That usually cinches the deal, and they'll have to let you go.

    Have fun! And no regrets!

  79. Just did it. by R2.0 · · Score: 1

    Strong advise: DON'T burn bridges. Your ex boss may be a shit, but wat if your flameout burns your coworkers? They are the ones you will probably run into again.

    I did mine the quick & dirty way:
    - 1 line resignation letter "I am resigning effective XX/YY/ZZZZ. Sincerely, R2.0"

    - gave back precisely what was called for in the manual - manuals, cell phone, etc.

    - then I GUTTED my hard drive. I tried to erase not only every unauthorized program, but every reference to me anywhere on the drive. I tried to make it so that the prying eyes in IT not only wouldn't find anything against policy, they would find no evidence that I ever had the laptop in my posession. Then I ran Blowfish to scramble the empty space. A small victory, but I savored it.

    - as my last act, I terminated myself. Policy cally for an e-mail to be sent to a special mailbox named "terminated" with the employees name, etc. That gets forwarded to HR, IT, Payroll, etc. I sent my own.

    From: R2.0
    To: Terminated
    Subject: R2.0, terminated XX/YY/ZZZZ

    I can at least hope this caused some brief confusion.

    --
    "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly." A. Carlson
    1. Re:Just did it. by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 1

      For future reference, you need to do the disk cleansing before you give the resignation letter. Many companies will just escort you out of the building immediately.

  80. Mod parent up! by joshsnow · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up!

  81. Don't quit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just take the other job, and see how long it takes them to notice that you are not showing up at the old one.

  82. Give the standard ....... by big-giant-head · · Score: 1

    You may think now that you don't need the refferal, however if you find yourself like me and a nice job opens up as working for a company that has fed contracts, trust me they will talk to EVERY employer you have had in the last 10 years...... plus a lot of other stuff. Besides if you make a scene that may be all he needs to have you labled not rehireable, which is something all companies ask when doing background checks.

    Be a bigger person than you ex-boss. Besides if he's like most a-hole managers just the fact that you got a better job and are bailing out on him will probably piss him off to no end. If you do cause a scene he can also say 'See I told you that person was ......(add ad-hoc derogatory stmts here)'

    I know it's tempting, but bite your tounge and be professional.

    --

    So Long and Thanks for all the Fish.
  83. Be professional by Rich+Klein · · Score: 1

    How much fun would it really be to screw over your soon-to-be-ex-co-workers? Have a little self respect and just give them the two weeks notice and be done with it.

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    -Rich
  84. Toss him a quarter by Artie_Effim · · Score: 1

    Toss a quarter on his desk and proudly say "Get yourself a new boy".

  85. What bridges? by immortal · · Score: 1

    Its kind of hard to burn bridges that were not built to start with.

    Really, the best revenge is ignorance. Give him two weeks notice and thats it. Nothing more. Don't tell him why you are leaving or where you are going or anything. The only thing he needs to know is you are quitting and he has been given his legal two weeks notice. Not knowing anything will likely kill him. Unfortunately he will also pester your coworkers about it, but since they don't know anything either, it will continue to grind his goat.

    This way if any future employers do talk to your current employer, they can only get your side of the discussion. Your current employer will have nothing to offer. Besides, legally they can't give out negative information, injuring your chances at a new job.

    Ignorance can be blissfull or painful. Its how you use it.

    --
    "Your having a bad day when the voices in your head put you on hold"
  86. Keep it low key by raider_red · · Score: 1

    Give your two weeks notice. Act nice to your co-workers. If your boss is a professional, he'll let you work out the two weeks, or name an earlier date. Get your documents in order. (Not for your boss, but the next sucker who gets the job. I've inherited projects from people who left, and this was always the most frustrating part.)

    On the last day say goodbye, and steal as much as you can from the office supply cabinet.

    Be prepared to be walked out immediately. Some bosses take it personally and fire employees on the spot if they decide to quit.

    Remember, it's not personal, it's business. (Okay, it is personal, but keep it at a high level.)

    --
    It's good to use your head, but not as a battering ram.
    1. Re:Keep it low key by puppetman · · Score: 1

      No, steal all you are going to before you give notice. Or at least stop pilfering two days before your last day.

      You don't want someone saying, as you walk out the door for the last time, "Hey, where's my laptop?" You'll be watched closely as your departure date draws near.

    2. Re:Keep it low key by cdh · · Score: 1

      It's not necessarily a personal thing to walk people out immediately, it's a liability thing. Depending on the job, you may have access to sensitive information (systems, etc.) that are "at risk" if you are no longer employeed there. It's in the company's best interest to just pay you and prevent your access to the systems. You are totally correct when you say "it's just business".

      That's why it's really important to do your hard drive cleaning, office supply stealing, etc. BEFORE you quit :)

  87. Terminology by JavaRob · · Score: 1

    Excellent advice. One quibble:
    "...he'll use your childishness to justify his assholedness."

    Assholedness? I think the proper term is "assholism". It's a disease, and the sooner you can force your boss to acknowledge his addiction to being an asshole (see parent post for tips), the sooner he can seek help.

    1. Re:Terminology by fm6 · · Score: 1

      "Disease" is one of those vague, over-used terms that I'm pretty tired of hearing. It assumes that the person who applies the label knows what he's talking about, and the labelee is just full of self-delusion. Let's treat the asshole with basic intellectual respect and refer to assholedness, not asholeism!

  88. Re:Piss on servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YHBT. YHL. HAND. PS: don't take life so seriously :)

  89. You misunderstand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's not going to *accept* the promption or raise anyway. Nor is he going to reveal that he already has another job lined up. Just rather than take the earlier criticism lying down, he's going to say (politely), "I'm not taking your damn complaintsl I want a *raise*."

    They'll probably say no, and whatever they say it'll be "not enough". Goodbye, and I'll try my luck elsewhere... and look how fast someone else snapped me up.

    It's just a 100% legal and "proper" way to emphasize "your loss". I'm not leaving with my tail between my legs; I'm leaving because you obviously don't appreciate me.

  90. Show some maturity... by HeyLaughingBoy · · Score: 1

    ...you'll appreciate it later. Burning bridges in the sense you imply will make just you feel good temporarily at someone's expense. Life's too short to waste energy like that. Besides, weird things happen. Years down the line you might need something that person can offer, be it a recommendation, or an introduction to someone you want to meet and he just happens to work with them.

    So go tell them you're leaving, show a list of tasks that won't be done before you quit and offer to document your work/train a replacement, etc. Odds are they won't care about any of this as they already know "short timer" mentality sets in when you're about to leave. More than likely you'll just have two weeks of showing up to work and getting paid to read magazines or look busy.

  91. make a permanent impression by aminorex · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bring an AR-15 and a couple of SIGs to work. Wear BDUs, and a BIG knife. Sit down at the desk and just do your job. Smile at the receptionist.

    If anybody tries to stop you, just pull the bolt and frown at them.

    --
    -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
    1. Re:make a permanent impression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AR-15 .. SIGs .. BDUs ... BIG

      wtf? tla? huh?

  92. Leave professionally by Cranx · · Score: 1

    How you treat your old company reflects upon you as a person, not on what sort of company they are. Leaving is all you should do. Accept the job offer, submit a polite 2-weeks notice and make your transition out of the company as professional as possible. If they ask, don't give them details as to why you're leaving, just say your skills were badly desired by this other company and they made you a terrific offer you couldn't pass up. They'll get the message that perhaps they should have treated you better, and without the insult that can often lead to ugliness. If there is going to be ugliness, let it start with them, don't be the provocateur.

    Remember, how YOU treat them is reflective of the sort of person YOU are. They can't change who you are for better or for worse.

    Ask youself: what sort of person are you? Act according to your answer.

    1. Re:Leave professionally by Cheeze · · Score: 1

      While on the moral highroad, your suggestion does not give the probably much anticipated finger to the management.

      I would probably put in for a 2 week vacation starting immediately, followed by your 2 week notice.

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    2. Re:Leave professionally by Cranx · · Score: 1

      If your goal is to give the finger to management, then you've answered the question.

  93. that's bullshit by IshanCaspian · · Score: 1

    If your employees are looking for a way to screw you, that's most likely because you've been screwing them in the past. Then again, if you're so afraid of your employees, then maybe you're right in not hiring people who aren't willing to take your shit.

    I had one boss who was a chronic drunk, racist asshole, and I tell you, every chance we got, all the workers would take a longer lunch break, slack off, whatever. Another job, for example, where I was treated with dignity and respect, even though the pay wasn't as good, I'd gladly work off the clock just to get something done that needed to get done.

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    But there is another kind of evil that we must fear most... and that is the indifference of good men.
  94. Shit happens and this happened where I worked at by gd23ka · · Score: 1

    This actually happened at a _very_ shitty company I worked at. They hired a whole bunch of people and set them to work poring over tons of one of their client's Cobol source. Everybody eagerly went to work, except one young fellow fresh from school with speech disabilities who somehow felt his talent was wasted on searching through cobol code for 6 character long numeric string fields.

    I was working across the hall from these people on a slightly more mind-boggling and fascinating project and had struck up a cigarrette smoking relationship with our secretary. One day the young man I was talking about was told to see the boss. He got fired and then after leaving the boss's office immediately squatted down in the hallway and shat on the carpet. I didn't see it happen but his pile drew a crowd and the boss was enraged. The next day when I was out smoking with the secretary we talked about the kid shitting on the carpet. She told me the boss had made her clean it up. (!). A week or two after the little shithead sent us a huge apple pie as a going-away present. It sat there in the kitchen all week and went into the trash untouched on friday.

    In case you're wondering, I got really upset with the company after they terminated the admittedly fun project our team worked on (we made it fun, the bosses did what they could to make it as non-fun as possible)and sent me across the hall to the Y2K-Gulag. After locating one Y2K-conversion candiate field of exactly 6 characters and numeric I spent an entire week there working on my personal projects. The next week the boss wanted to see me and told me he doesn't give a fuck about how mind-numbing and dumb the work is and I told him get me a real project. The next week I called in sick and after two wonderful weeks of extra vacation I got my notice. A month later, I went to work for a bank but that story is not juicy enough for slashdot.

  95. Karma by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    Is not just for rating /. members. Take the high road. Be professional. As others have pointed out, your current boss may be your boss again in another place. However, if your karma is truly excellent, he may wind up working for you.

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  96. Re:Piss on servers by fred+fleenblat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Something very similar to this was debunked on mythbusters. The basic problem is that the stream splits into droplets with air gaps between, so no current flows and nothing happens. If you have a reference to a published account of this story, that would be interesting.

  97. If You Really Want to Have Fun... by dso · · Score: 1

    Try blowing the whistle on your boss! My former boss was pretty much an idiot so I contacted the appropriate agency (Health Canada) and informed them of his indescretions. I was fired of course.

    A year later we are still fighting. Legal threats, vilification and the always fun 'disgruntled employee' were his weapons of choice.

    The funny thing was that because I used Linux, for the server, and he didn't know how to operate it, he blamed me for it? He portrayed it a some sinister plot to control him.

    Of course I put a website up detailing his behaviour http://www.snakeoil.ca/.

  98. good question by rhettoric · · Score: 1
    First, congrats on the new job!

    The general sentiment of how to leave a bad job seems either
    1. Immature revenge - i.e. random shitting
    2. Taking the high road and just getting out
    Both of these have serious drawbacks. Plenty of /.ers have criticized the first response because "it can come back to haunt you." Another possible angle is that it's petty and in my experience immature revenges almost never work out.

    I knew a guy who was trying to get a loan repayed, but the loaneee wasn't returning his calls. So he stayed up for four hours, redialing, letting the answering machine pick up, leaving bad messages then calling back again. Annoying the one who screwed him became a method of revenge. I'm not sure how the individual responded, but I think it would have been a simple matter to leave the house for a while, and then just delete all my messages when I got home. What I do know is that my aquaintance was served up with $100 in long distance bills. It didn't get his money back, and wasted time and money. Petty == stupid.

    Also, most people believe in a moral system that subscribes to a view that causing harm or grief to another not only harms them, but you as well. Some might scoff, but I'm throwing it out there anyway ;)

    But if being immature and cruel doesn't really work, I don't think "taking the high road" works better either. Why? Because it's dishonest. If you're leaving because it's a bad job you should try to express the fact that you think it's a bad job to someone who might be able to do something about it.

    Sometimes that's just not possible though. My last job had fantastic coworkers but utterly abyssmal management. Every time I tried to talk to anyone in authority about improving morale or other issues that would make happier or more productive workers they would take it as a personal attack. Finally it became so frustrating that I was close to throttling my boss during a meeting in which she intimated that (despite the fact that some in my department had been there close to a decade) we weren't that important. I apologized for losing my temper, but this was the last straw. Working for management I didn't respect was turning me into something I didn't respect, so I left...after briefly considing accusing my boss of sexual harassment (wail! she said I was pretty and *sob* that she could do so much for my carrer). But you know...slander can get you in trouble. Se how nasty I was becoming?

    I suppose what I would say is try to communicate your feelings as best you can to improve the envorinment for those who come after, but do what you can to make your life good.
  99. Be A Professional by Omega1045 · · Score: 1
    I did something kinda evil leaving a job a few years ago. While it still brings a chuckle to me everytime I think about it, I burned those bridges. Shoot, I nuked the bridges. Even in a big city IT can be a small community and you never know what the future will bring. Even though it was really funny, I regret it.

    Do it with class and style. Go in and give your two weeks with a very respectful letter. But let someone else (a work buddy) know you are doing it before hand and also give them the resignation letter and file if possible.

    If management likes they way you are quiting you just made a good name for yourself. If they throw you out on your ass it will get around that you tried to resign respectfully because others will know your intentions via your letter given to a friend.

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    Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds. - Albert Einstein

  100. Don't bother by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

    I read your lameass post on slashdot.

    Don't bother coming in at all. You're fired!

    ======================
    Seriously, care to follow up on what, if anything, went down?

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  101. I say don't *directly* burn them... by ElForesto · · Score: 3, Funny

    I hated my last job. The bosses were always jerks to everyone, they engaged in shady business practices and I never saw a raise even though I busted my butt to keep the place afloat when we were understaffed and turning over employees like flapjacks. I left on pretty amicable terms...

    That is, right up until I went down to the US Bankruptcy courts and the IRS to report that the owner was skimming cash to avoid paying back his creditors. And also dropped a few notes to the FBI about their sex tourism business bussing guys down to Mexico and finding them hookers. And dropping a few lines to the FTC about unsolicited junk faxing. And letting their largest clients know just how much mark-up they were paying. And...

    They probably don't know it was me, as they left a long string of disgruntled employees. Whenever I think about it, I just smile smugly, wondering how much jail time they'll end up with.

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    There is a difference between "insightful" and "inciteful" other than spelling.
    1. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by pen · · Score: 1

      What a great idea! Instead of being direct and having the guts to talk to them yourself, tattle on them to the authorities behind their back. I'm sure you're proud.

    2. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by ElForesto · · Score: 1

      Excellent idea. Tell a bunch of mentally-unstable small business owners that I'm going to detail their illegal activities to the feds when they know where I live. Oh, BRAVO. While we're at it, let's make sure that all witnesses to crimes have their names, addresses and phone numbers published for anyone to find and close down the Witness Protection Program.

      To quote The Wizard of Oz: "What would you do with a brain if you had one?"

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    3. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      For being a hell of a lot smarter than you seem to be? I hope so.

      Reporting crimes to the authorities is not only more effective than trying to shame/frighten/threaten criminals into becoming responsible members of society... it's safer.

    4. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They probably don't know it was me, as they left a long string of disgruntled employees.

      Unless they read /. and remember which J Harris fits the description: "LDS, right-leaning, little "l" libertarian. Clark County chairman of the Independent American Party of Nevada. Candidate for Assembly 21, my 3rd run for office. Director of IT at a small company in Las Vegas. That is all."

      Did you mean to post anon?

    5. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by pen · · Score: 1

      All I'm saying that it is pretty gutless to report them to the authorities as revenge for being fired. What was he waiting for while he was employed there? Oh wait, they were paying his salary.

    6. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by Daniel+Ellard · · Score: 1

      Wherever they are, I hope for your sake that they don't read slashdot, J. "They probably don't know it was me" Harris.

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    7. Re:I say don't *directly* burn them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How long did you work for the Bush Administration?

  102. My Personal Favorite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My own experience was during a meeting, the VP comes in and describes the dire circumstances the company is in. I.e., Customers are leaving in droves, the software is still months from releasability, there are the following design issues we're facing. Then the VP says that all employees must work 60 hour weeks and a minimum of Saturdays if they're to be seen as team players.

    At that point, I pull a report out of my briefcase that I had submitted two years before. It states how all these problems would occur if nothing was done to mitgate a detailed set of risks. It was received about as well as the Greek Casanda spouting prophecy. I then say, "Looks like we're right on target--read my report of 2 years ago, again. Poor planning on management's part is not an emergency on my part. By the way, here's my resignation." I get up an leave the room to stunned silence of the 20+ developers assembled and walk off to a job with a 15% pay raise.

  103. Take a loooong vacation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was working in New York as a consultant. The people I was working for didn't want the position I was in to exist. (politics that ran deep long before I got there). I was put in a corner and forgotten about. The people who cut the check were in California, and I had only seen my real boss in a year. I sent out an e-mail that I was going on vacation. I went on vacation, then found another job. I got paychecks for 4 months after leaving before anyone noticed I was gone. Then they couldn't tell how long I was gone (since noone noticed) and asked for 2 months of pay back. Works for me.

  104. Not fired, but same idea by Nurseman · · Score: 1

    Working in a littler local ER, part time. Last shift before I resigned. Little tralier trash girl, with a slight cold, going on and on about how I suck , the hospital sucks, how long will it take to see her, etc. I make her wait 4 hours, skipping her chart time after time. 11PM comes and she is only only chart left.
    Her : "Now you HAVE to take ME".
    Me : I'm sorry this side closed, you'll have to wait on the other side for the nurse to call you"
    After a string of curses from her, I told her "If you weren't such a low life POS, with a mouth like a sewer, I would of taken you along time ago. Now go back home and watch Jerry Spinger ! "
    She threatens to report me, the whole ER staff is rolling when I yell "I just QUIT you retard," Anyone who has ever worked EMS/ER will appreciate the humor in this, and the feelings of satifaction.

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  105. Think about REAL (yet safe) revenge by nusratt · · Score: 1

    The best revenge you can get is to make them regret and change their ways.
    And the best way to do that is to help as many other people as possible to leave, preferably the most valuable employees.

    BEFORE YOU GIVE NOTICE, make sure you have emails/phones for all those people:
    one reason bosses rush you out the door after quitting, is so you won't "hurt morale" (meaning, telling other people how much better your new job is).

    After you leave, do all you can to let all those people know how GREAT your new job is (without EXPLICITLY slamming your old job).
    And (anonymously) send them promising-looking job notices and head-hunters' phones.

    This way, you get the referenced sweetest revenge, and get to punish the old boss, and simultaneously do good for others who are still stuck there.

  106. A non-IT story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Dad worked about 20 years ago for Monaco (the RV company) building cabinets and such. Each person had their own set of masters [*], and my Dad (being an actual carpenter) had made his own, which worked much better than everyone elses, and everyone else wanted to get ahold of them. I was really young, but according to my Mom he *really* hated the job (and the people there), and when he found a new job, he started to carefully build a new set that looked right, but when you tried to put everything together at the end, it just wouldn't quite fit together. The last day of work, he chopped up his real ones and tossed them into a scrap pile while no one was looking, left the fake ones in plain sight, then went into his bosses office and told him to shove it.

    [*]: I can't remember the actual term, cause I don't know a thing about carpentry. Basically, with these widgets you could easily cut the finished cabinent out of your starting pieces.

  107. weird al by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    Must be considering bankruptcy protection at this very minute....

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  108. Free software bonanza, and then a free iBook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    My last job went downhill fast. I had a cool boss who left and was replaced by an uptight, by-the-book douche who did not know how to handle the officious, micro-managing cunt who had the ear of the bigwigs in the corporate HQ in NYC and was constantly on my ass about one thing or another.

    That was in August of the year this all went down. I stuck it out for a while, but when my new boss didn't loosen up I decided it was time to move on. Though I hated the management in the company, I liked most of my endusers and didn't want to leave them unsupported-- so I decided to be nice and gave a month's notice just before leaving for my two-week Christmas vacation. I worked the first two weeks of January before leaving. They screwed us out of bonuses that year, so I decided I'd make my own bonus-- on the last weekend before my final week, I came into the office and spent eight hours copying all the software I wanted from The Big Cabinet O' Software.

    On my last Friday, I went out with all my friends and got ridiculously hammered. I slept in my soon-to-be-former office that night, and vomited a few times in my recyclables bin. Just before leaving, I emptied and rinsed it out in the men's room. When I noticed it still smelled pukey afterward, I switched it for the one in the office of the enduser I hated most, a pompous dickhead who was always ignoring IT policies and fucking up his machine. The can spent Saturday and Sunday baking in the sun that streamed into the windows of his south-facing office, so I'm sure it was nice and fragrant when he came in that Monday.

    Finally, two weeks into my new job I received an extra paycheck from the old company. Since it was direct-deposited, I didn't have to worry about the legalities of cashing a check that wasn't really mine. I called the very nice payroll lady who was one of my endusers and told her of the mistake, and she said she'd take care of it. The money never disappeared from the account and I never heard anything about it again except a nice letter from some suit in upper management, thanking me for my honesty in returning the money. A few months later, that money turned out to be just enough to buy me an iBook.

  109. Milk and Chicken Bomb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Take an empty screw-top jar, fill with chicken (I hear boneless, skin on works best) and top off with milk. Cap jar and hide in a warmish place. In 3 to 4 weeks, the jar will burst from some sort of horrifying chemical/organic/death reaction and it will smell like someone died.

    No s**t it works, and it's relatively untraceable

  110. Quit being redundant by Proc6 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Okay, can we quit with the "take the high road", "don't be childish" posts. Yes, we all know thats the right thing to do, and after the first 50 it's plenty redundant so quit posting it.

    Now lets get on with funny ways people have, or have wanted to leave their jobs. Something interesting to read instead of 500 obvious "Do the right thing" posts.

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    I'm Rick James with mod points biatch!

  111. stress! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When i was working in a small sized pc shop, my boss (and his wife) tried to make my life a living hell. I told him one day "i get so SICK of you!", and called in sick the next day. Then, since i knew my boss would send some kind of inspection (legal) to check up on me, i made an appointment with the doctor, told him i didn't sleep at all during the night and asked for a prescription for sleeping pills. Every day i took one out of the box, flushed it down the toilet and when the inspection came i showed him it. The most perfect way of being sick at home is 'stress'. Nobody can prove that (at least, not easily - and no company is going to hire a shrink to prove otherwise) so you can sit out your time at home. If you can convince your doctor to write a note, saying you have to leave the house for fresh air every now and then it's even more perfect.

  112. Re:here's a story by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    all I ever wanted was to be understood :)

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  113. oh no.. I want to be a librarian! by chocolatetrumpet · · Score: 1

    Sorry but as someone getting ready to go to school for 2 years to get a masters in library science, with hopes of college library employment,

    may I ask what happened? Thanks... mods please don't kill me!

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    1. Re:oh no.. I want to be a librarian! by lee+n.+field · · Score: 1

      I was not a librarian, I was one of the lowly "non-academic staff".

      Tried to move up in civil service there (bennies were good (we haven't had health insurance most years since leaving)), but I never got anywhere, despite being at to top of the list for various civil service job rosters. I suspected (and still do) that I was on a blacklist of some sort.

      All sorts of other nasty things going on.

  114. A short poem for this problem by Floydius · · Score: 1
    Disclaimer: This is horrible advice, please be a grown-up instead of this.

    This reminds me of a piece of literature i picked up back in high school chem lab... Is your boss named Johny? does he like water? this is perfect:

    Johny had a stomachache
    He hasn't anymore
    For what he thought was H2O
    Was H2SO4

  115. More concise moderation option by APL+bigot · · Score: 1

    We really need a -1, Doesn't Know Ass from Hole In Ground moderation option...

    AKA... Shouldn't play golf.

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  116. Burn the ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Euphemism is to make it pretty dysphemism is to make it dirty:

    Burn the bridges.
    Shoot the horses
    Roast horses with BBQ sause over burning bridges.
    Eat horses.

  117. Gutless weasel(s) by smurfnsanta · · Score: 1

    especially because I got a (completely unwarranted) PHB-style threatening lecture last week about my work habits

    If your supervisor is terrorizing you, WTF are you working there for, and have you never been trained on the correct use of a baseball bat? Please remember that I'm not advocating homicide, but 30 or 40 fractures should readjust even the surliest PHB. Rinse and repeat as necessary.

    OR, more sensibly, you could simply refuse to work for terrorists. I like this choice best, and have had nothing but terrific management for the past 30+ years because I refuse to work shit jobs for shit employers. If you think of your supervisor as a PHB, and don't love the work, you've already made a huge mistake that burning bridges won't fix. It's your error, own up to it by leaving with grace and dignity, and learn not to repeat it.

  118. Childish by drxenos · · Score: 1

    I never understood why people feel the need to get "revenge" on a company that hired them and kept them employed, even if you didn't care of the work. "Thanks for giving me a continuous source of income. Now I plan to stick it to do." You'd expect that crap from the punk at McDonald's, not an educated professional.

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  119. Leaving school, rather than leaving work by Spazholio · · Score: 1

    I had an instructor who was so hopeless it was beyond words. Lucky for the students, he did something amazingly stupid and actually GAVE IT TO US. Click on the link in my sig to watch it!

    Oh, and click here for those of you that disable sigs.

  120. FOAD to my boss by gimmuh411 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I worked for a large internet company at one point, as a senior person in their NOC. I had a manager that was so completely technically inept that the only way she could manage us was on numbers. Needless to say, it was micromanagement at it's worst. Well, when I got to the point where I couldn't take anymore, I walked over to her desk and put a 5# bag of flour down and smiled. She asked me what it was for. With all of my coworkers looking on in astonishment, I told her very calmly and politely "So you can go f*ck yourself, you fat bitch" then I turned and walked out. I know the crack is older than time itself, but it SURE felt good seeing her cry, knowing that I'd stayed awake at night for indeterminable stretches, stressed out from the way she ran (or didn't) run things. I felt bad about it afterwards, but 4 years later I still run into people I worked with that will bring it up and just can't stop laughing. And yes, I hope I never have to interview with for a job under her again.

  121. Shuv it line by mysterious_mark · · Score: 1

    The country music station KNIX in Pheonix Az has a shuv it line where you can call in and tell your boss to take his job and shuv it on the air. At the end they play Jonnie Paycheck's 'Take This Job and Shuv It.' This is or was generally done on Friday afternoon. M

  122. vacation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    If they try to not pay you for your accrued vacation, tell them you are going to call wage-and-hour. Wage-and-hour (dept of labor) can come in and audit their whole payroll.

  123. Evils of selling baby formula by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 3, Informative
    Pandoras vox forgot to mention that, in many third world countries, the water that many people get is pretty nasty. Even if the formula was up to first-world snuff, many kids die because the water mixed in with the formula has all sorts of greeblies in it that they haven't built up an immunity to yet.

    Truth of the matter is: If you're in the third world and you're not rich enough to afford really good water (and know about the evils of formula), you're probably going to be better off finding a friend you can pay to breast feed your kid. Chances are it'll be both cheaper and healthier.

    It's one thing to sell baby formula to people who need it. It's another thing entirely to market it to people who'se kids are probably going to get sick from eating the stuff. (while telling them precisely the opposite)

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  124. All of these sound really great. by Snarfvs+Maximvs · · Score: 1

    I'm getting ready to leave my co. too, in a couple months.

    The problem is I actually *like* my boss. He and I are on good terms and he's a good guy. The problem is he's hamstrung by our corporation, which is the most heartless collection of sons-of-bitches in the world. There's nothing he can do about it--our dept. budget is capped, our stock is worthless, our top brass has the collective IQ of a glass of milk, and our dept.'s "turf" is getting old and boring.

    Time for me to move on but I guess there's nothing I can do to fuck my company over without also fucking over my boss. :-(

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  125. Bad Karma by Danathar · · Score: 1

    Dude....bad karma will catch up to ya. No matter how much you think it will not. If you do things "the fun way" I gaurantee you that somehow...someway it will come back to bite you in the ass.

    I've seen it....it happens

  126. Your badge.... by thebiss · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...will only get you onto the raised floor naked once. Save it for the last day.

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  127. Be heard. by vettemph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Make sure you tell everyone else first. If you tell your boss first, he will ask you to leave 'now' and tell your co-workers he asked you to leave due to your being a dificult person. Do you want everyone getting your story or his?

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  128. Kill them with class by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 1
    A few months ago I got the chance to say goodbye to a job (and particularly a boss) I hated. The guy had treated me like a waste of his time since I started six months before, and was fond of lecturing his staff about "customer service" even though he had the most anti-customer attitude I've ever seen in a manager. He was hypocrisy incarnate.

    But when I told him I'd received another job offer, I gave him a chance to talk me out of it. (He didn't even try.) I said I'd stick around for the full two weeks. I cleaned my office. I wrote up notes for my co-workers. I told the ones I liked that I'd miss them. And on my last day, I was the last person to leave the building, and conscientiously set the alarm on my way out. (Which may give you a sense of just how badly they missed the point with security.) If I ever need to use this guy as a reference, he won't have anything he can say against me (at least not without risking litigation).

    Oh, and did I mention that I explained to the HR folks in my exit interview all the reasons I was so glad to be out of this guy's department, and that I was taking a pay cut and reduced benefits just to do so?

    Even so, I felt good knowing that I hadn't caused any pain to the innocent ones I was leaving behind. And maybe my comments to HR won't do any good, but at least I went on the record.

  129. watch the film "Office Space" (1999) ... by moodz · · Score: 0

    office space is a great film on this subject. ... I like the bit where they abduct the the office printer and "execute" it in a field.
    or the guy who ends up burning the office down.
    Stars Jennifer Aniston and Ron Livingston.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/

    1. Re:watch the film "Office Space" (1999) ... by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: 1

      Wow, that film looks great, can't wait till it comes on Betamax.

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  130. Silent Sabotage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This takes more than 2 weeks to pull off, but...

    Sign up for all kinds of future work/deliverables. Promise your boss you can get all kinds of things completed. Commit to doing lots of things for cross functional groups etc. All these things make your boss look good for how much his team can accomplish as well letting the other teams know how productive you are.

    Then quit before the schedule & milestones come due. Your boss will be left holding the bag trying to get them completed on time.

  131. By winning the Powerball Lottery. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Living well is the best revenge...

  132. Cover your own ass by CaptainPinko · · Score: 1

    Everyone's first goal is to survive. Otherwise you are shooting yourself in the foot. And this way you still might be able to use your former boss as a reference before he gets hauled off. Plus it's ballsy because you never know if they are gonna try to pin it all on you or take you down with them.

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    Your CPU is not doing anything else, at least do something.
    1. Re:Cover your own ass by pen · · Score: 1

      If you're using survival as an excuse to commit illegal and/or immoral acts, then how are you any better than your former employer? They're doing the same exact thing -- just trying to make a buck while their conscience is asleep.

  133. Don't burn bridges, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a former life:

    I worked at one job for a technical temp company that the recruiter had sold as a LAN Administrator position. It turned out to be the most dull desktop support position ever (there was nothing to do and I was alone all day). I found out from the employees at the job that I was the latest in a long string of temps that had quit. The recruiter wouldn't return my calls so I looked until I found a better job (that payed better) and when they asked when I could start I said "tomorrow". I just didn't show up at my old job.

    I called the old temp company about a week later (after I received my paycheck) and told the receptionist that I had to speak to the recruiter: "It's an emergency!".

    He picked up his phone: "How are things going out there? Is everything alright?"

    "Oh, everything is fine, but I haven't worked there for over a week." I said.

    "You, you, you are in a lot of trouble!" he stammerred.

    "I doubt it. I've been working at a better job that pays better. I just called to let you know."

    Very satisfying, as I knew that this recruiter worked on commission and would be out some money. Very juvenille, as well. If I had it to do over again, I'd give one week's notice and tell the recruiter and the client company why I was leaving.

    Quitting games are for scared little children.

  134. Burn the building down... by jbrader · · Score: 2, Funny

    cuz that asshole Lumburg stole your stapler.

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    You are so boring that when I see you my feet go to sleep.
  135. Huh? by jsimon12 · · Score: 1

    Huh? The question isn't about salesman or goods or hiring, the guy is asking whether he should pull some stunt when he quits his job. Whatever you want to call normal civil behavior in the workplace (I call it being professional), burning bridges isn't a good idea, if you like to remain employeed.

    Of course ignore this advice and act however you want at work, burn bridges until your hearts content. This is a free country after all.

  136. Graceful Exits by polaris30 · · Score: 1

    Yea, i agree, Dont Burn bridges.... But wouldent it be fun, to walk into your bosses office, stand up on his desk, Drop your pants and squat... then Pinching off a nice big corn, and peanut filled Biscuit right in his pencil drawer... and then Demand a raise... LMAO! think I need to see my shrink again...

  137. burning bridges and putting out the fire by neurofluoro · · Score: 1

    Sometimes taking a 2week long "vacation" just doesn't cut it. A year or so ago I was working at a warehouse, driving around shelves, pickung up various foodstuff. The company had a policy on performance. Less than 90% for 2 weeks and you were fired. And about 0.15USD extra per percentage over 100. Within three weeks I was at 140% percent. My boss was thrilled. I less so. The job got on my nerves after 2 months, so I stayed home for 2 weeks, not answering the phone when my boss called. Finally I answered, and he was willing to give me another chance. I was no happy camper any more. "Damn!", I thought to myself, "Why doesn't he take the hint and just fire me? Oh well, I need the money". After two weeks back at work I took another two week long "vacation". This time he got the hint. But I managed to put out the bridge that was ablaze with flames by telling him I was suffering from depression. Which seemed convincing because it was almost true (had an amphetamine habit at the time, which on occasion had me driving around struggling not to crack up and start crying for no reason at all. Of course, the only reason for my superhuman performance was said habit as well). A few weeks ago I met an old acquaintance who had begun working at the same company a month or so ago. Apparently they still remembered me, and told stories about me: "Neurofluoro did it with style, one day he parked his truck in a corner and just left".

  138. Re:Piss on servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Finally, if somebody happens to walk in during the... er... process of elimination, it's called indecent exposure. Were he to be convicted of that last count, it means manditory registration as a sex offender.

    Not true.

  139. Re:Piss on servers by multiplexo · · Score: 1
    Bullshit! I was out walking our fence with my Dad (we had three acres surrounded with an electric fence) and we had disconnected the fence at the charger so we could clear weeds and stuff from the wires without getting shocked. Anyways I'm standing there when I'm done, pissing on a fence post, when my bastard Dad plugs the fence back in (and he knew that I was taking a leak). The sensation was interesting, to say the least. I hopped backwards, tripped over my pants and ended up lying on my back with piss dribbling all over me. Sure, if you're just dribbling along you might not get a shock, but if you have a good flowing stream, fueled by a thermos of coffee you will feel the power!

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    cheap labor conservatives - they want to keep you hungry enough to be thankful for minimum wage.
  140. How immature and unprofessional by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have been mad and fired from many employers and understand the need to get angry.

    But leaving a job this way certainly is not good and makes you look worse than your boss you dont like.

    Why did your boss complain of your work style and you? Not pointing fingers here per say, but if he dislikes you and not your fellow employee's then the problem is not your boss but perhaps yourself.

    A new job wont fix that either.

    Sure personality conflicts happen all the time but the mature adult way is to find away around them. If its a boss then just leaving would be the proper way. If he is an asshole, HR will notice the turnover and fire him.

  141. You forgot one! by dmaxwell · · Score: 1

    What? You brought down all that heat on them and didn't call the SPA?

    I guess I'll have to bow to your wisdom there. I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy.

  142. My approach. by Raven42rac · · Score: 1

    There is this newfangled thing called "taking the high road". Politely tell your boss that you are leaving in two weeks, if he tells you to hit the bricks, that's his problem. Do not retaliate, as justified as you may feel. Your fellow employees do not deserve it, as much as the PHBs may. If you have an exit interview, tell the interviewers why you are leaving.

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    I hate sigs.
  143. Never burn bridges by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you managed to survive your dressing-down (what is "PHB-style", anyway) without saying anything to get yourself fired, count yourself lucky and file a simple, polite resignation, then go out gracefully. You never know when you might need a reference of some kind, or who you might meet in the future. I work in the Washington, DC area, which has, what, 3-5 million people? And yet I keep meeting people who know other people I know, who may use the opinion of the common acquaintance to judge how to deal with me. Corporations may not give references, but people who work for them do, both formally and informally. Unless you are prepared to leave your employer off your resume and have an inexplicable gap in your work history, you're better off going quietly, without a show. What you don't say will speak volumes.

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    "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." -- George Orwell
    1. Re:Never burn bridges by LegionX · · Score: 1

      PHB = Pointy Haired Boss, documented on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_subculture

  144. +1 informative (n/t) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  145. The Kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A couple of days before your last day, start taking things out of people lunches. Start with small things like pudding cups, and work your way up to the entire lunch. On the last day, come in a litlle early, and bring in a case of beer. Empty, or consume, several cans. Place the empty cans into your least favorite coworker's garbage can. Depending on the size of you company, the email threads that begin will be hysterical. Be sure to save them!

  146. Take This Job And Shove It... by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1
    ... you can do what I did when I quit so very recently. Bring in that $5 tape deck that everyone has hiding in their closets somewhere, put the classical Office Space song by Cannabis, the cover of the great Johnny Paycheck classic, and crank it up to MAXIMUM VOLUME.

    Then, it's simply a matter of putting it somewhere concealed but hearable (for me, being the only guy over 6 feet in the office, it was on top of the kitchenette cabinettes, but somewhere in the return air plenum should work fine) and then dance out of the office, singing along. :) I could still hear the song after I made it to the parking lot.

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    I like to place meaningful quotes in my sig, so people will know that I know what meaningful quotes are.
  147. Time wounds all heels by mhollis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Insert obligatory statement on karma here

    A woman I know was "downsized" by a large newspaper corporation some years back after she got pregnant. Out of five groups, her group was the second in performance, so there was no justification other than that of her pregnancy.

    Her boss called her into his office and told her, after she took several hours off for a doctor's visit to get an amniocentisis, that "she had better get her priorities straight, and that when she decided her priorities, the manager would decide how valuable she was to the company."

    This matter is in litigation presently, with the United States EEOC well involved. The thing that is funny is that the company who let her go had an opportunity to offer some half a million in order to get her to drop her (very good and well-documented) case. Presently, the EEOC is suing the company for "an injunction requiring the [company] to abstain from discrimination. It also seeks back pay with interest and other 'affirmative relief ... including but not limited to reinstatement,' punitive damages and reimbursement of the commission's legal expenses." Since the EEOC is a federal commission, they have unlimited means to sue the company. Half a million will look very cheap when all of this is sorted out.

    Since she was let go in early 2001, they're looking at back pay that will total nearly half a million without any further damages, which will be considerable.

    My best advice, if you work for a company that commits "bad behaviors," keep a complete record of everything. It's a better bet than winning a lottery.

    In her case she did not burn any bridges. That would have been held against her in her case against the company.

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    Gods don't kill people, people with gods kill people.
  148. kick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kick the boss in the nuts! That will do it.

  149. Be very careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As much as it could be fun to leave some people who screwed you in a self-satisfying way, the import word here is : PROFESSIONAL.
    There are 2 reasons why you should leave in a professional manner. The first one is that we live in a small world. You never know if you won't be required to work with those people in the future. The second reason is that your new company might have a very bad opinion of you as a human being if you leave your previous one with some conflicts. In my company, we have a policy. We ask people during the interview what they think about their previous (or current) company. If they begin to say bad things about them, meaning emotional criticisms ( "they are assholes", "they were soooo unfair to me"), well chances are that the candidate is not going to get the job. If you screw your previous company, chances are that you are going to screw your new one too.
    Interacting with people in a professional environment requires diplomatic skills that you can neglect in other contexts.

  150. Just left a crappy job, say something by dougnaka · · Score: 1
    We had a new CTO join the company, he messed up just about everything he could have messed up. He demoted me, hired his buddies, and was an obvious moron.

    Things got progressively worse for everyone in the company, we lost 20% of the technical staff becuase everyone was leaving as soon as possible to avoid working with this guy. Everyone left professionally, and AFAIK said nothing about the fact they were leaving becuase of this person. The CEO and CFO were completely ignorant to the fact the CTO was a complete waste of space.

    When I found a new, much better, job, I gave my 2 weeks notice and didn't mention to the CTO (my boss) that he was the main reason I was leaving. I did, however, have a meeting with the CEO and the CFO and explain that my treatment at his hand was 50% of the reason I was leaving, and his negative impact on the company was the other 50%. I told them both very clearly that he was bad for the company, and there would be more people leaving, and that the other people had left for the same reason I was leaving. The CEO, who was delusional about the CTO, assured me everyone else had left for other reasons, and that the CTO was a valued member who had contributed lots to the company.

    I told him thanks for employing me, and good luck with the success of the company, and I hope they do well.

    Since I left the CTO has been stripped of most of his power, and most technical people have been given raises. I feel good that my professional, polite, talks with the CEO and CFO were part of the reason my co-workers recieved better treatment.

    So, if you're leaving a bad situation, make sure you tell the highest ranking people you can, in completely honest, open, and certian terms, exactly what your grievances are. Not for you, but for your co-workers.

    It's important to note that most of these people involved were honest, decent people, who genuinely were unaware of the problems with the CTO

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    My Linux Command of the Day site : LCOD
  151. Pathetic, by defile · · Score: 1

    If your employer fired you, would they be polite about it? Give you two weeks pay? Wait for you to finish paying off your car? Wait until you found a new job? Still provide nice references? If they wouldn't do this for you, why on earth would you do this when you fired them?

    Maybe you see the value in being the better party? I can respect that, but it's not a game that I can play. I consider myself extremely patient, tolerant, forgiving, and easy going. If someone has put me at the end of my rope, then they must be particularly deserving.

    Don't turn down a chance to put an asshole in their place. It's a pleasure of life that is unique unto its own.

  152. Re:Piss on servers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A new Mythbusters was on last night and they revisted the urban legend about being electrocuted while urinating. This time one of them stood right up against the fence and did indeed get zapped, so they backpedalled on their previous "myth busted" statement.

    Basically, if you are a couple feet or more away, e.g. 3rd rail, off a bridge, no problem the stream will turn to droplets. But if you stand right up against a waist-level source like an electric fence, you will indeed get zapped.