Actually, the reason I didn't know it is because I generally avoid any of the microsoft related articles, I think they're in general repetitive and unlikely to shed any new light on the microsoft issue. That said, I got a kick out of the whole Novell quote, so I posted it, almost as a lark. I like reading slashdot, actually. I still find it fun:-)
That said, I think that proprietary software can use the ideas of open source to expand their influence and make money without opening up code. I've never belonged to the group that thinks that microsoft doesn't see that, either.
To a degree this story for me was about posting yet another microsoft trollm but a fun one. I hoped that people would notice Microsoft aping the least painful and most successful attributes of open source, that of interacting directly with the developers, without going though weird marketing layers.
Ironically, through it's MSDN plan,. microsoft has a good history of doing this, whether it is through the releasing of api specs or file formats, there isn't much they don't provide. That said what they don't provide is often telling. But I don't want to go on too long about this.
I certainly won't flame you, I used to live in a development in Virginia made by Ryland rhomes, and the shit you'd see in these places. Think stairs only affixed with nail beds and no bolts, peeling roofs only a few years after sale, not to mention the levittown aspect of the whole thing. Blech. I'm very happy to say I live in a solid house, 40 years older than me. I honestly wouldnt' trust the people who built these homes with a network, as they'd find some way to make it as disposably as possible.
And the fact that 2x6 is considered the bare minimum for framing is the sad part. Also, if you tr4y to surpervise the building in such a development I don't think you get a better home, all you see is all the drunks, criminals and amateurs who have ovverrun these mega developments. And yes, I know that there are honest trademen, but they quickly get away from the Ryland and toll bros as quickly as possible and work on projects that aren't going to nickle and dime them into poor quality work.
I put the quotes in because I find it interesting that they are asserting rights over something they did not write, nor can claim any code for. It smells like they are submarining a patent they bought from SGI, who in turn probably filed the patent as a submarine as well.
What I don't understand is why people assume that there hasn't been a quid pro quo here. I mean, if someone donates money to a campaign, and a lot of it, even if it is not to the exclusion of the other party, and they get to have their way with the government, isn't that buying an administration? If it looks like a rose and smells like one... Now what's funny is people acting like I wouldn't accuse the Clinton administration of the same thing. Anyhow, slashdot "spouts" biased ideas all the time. For instance:
Extreme Patents Bad
MPAA Bad
RIAA Bad
EFF Good
Free Speech Good
Video Games Good
Open Source Good
I am completely okay with you disagreeing with my analysis of the purchasability of George Bush, but to say that/. should be unbiased in it's coverage is to ignore the history and goals of slashdot. And to assume a default democratic bias is in my opinion unfounded, I mean, look at our criticism of Idiot Senator Hollings a senator so completely purchased that he must have a barcode tattooed on his forehead.
Distrowatch, while a fun site, is even less useful than the slashdot polling system. That gentoo keeps on citing it as a measure of popularity is a little pitiful.
This isn't to deny gentoos install base is enthusiastic, but quoting and pushign the distrowatch number is a bit dishonest as a true measure of growth.
I'll give you that static pages are always faster then php, but you can't blame ljs problems on it, you can blame it on ljs lack of planning, I mean, they had to know we'd slashdot this.
I honestly don't think it's that simple. Why are release notes up for it? Why did I get 10 submissions celebrating it's release? So, oops, sorry, really don't do it for me, no, not yet.
Honestly, I wasn't sure if I was going to put it on the front page, I was even going to revisit the issue when I got murrays post. So it's all moot now.
Well, we thought it was a pretty hard core troll, for one. Also, I can't d/l the actual report yet, which was my initial reason for not linking to it. Also, I'm just speaking for me, the other authors may have deleted it for other reasons.
I personally don't like posting microsoft stories much, and this one kind of qualified as that too. I mean, that's part of what slashdot is about, so I do post them, but I don't like to post the exchange bug of the week, or the outrageous steve ballmer comment of the month, whatever.
Well, I'd agree is slashdot was analogous to the front section of the paper instead of the opinion section.
The reason I said that we weren't going to run this story was a sort of explanation as to why you are seeing a week old story. The demand in the submission queue was there early, but we did think it was a blatant troll. In the end we decided to run it because the/. readership wanted it so badly.
I don't think it is censorship to not post every link submitted to us. We do get 400+ a day, and before you bring up an ope nsubmission queue, pleae note that has been addressed.
Well, the deathplane comment was about the V-22 killing marines in it. I don't have an issue with maintaining a standing army. I do have one with force the V22 on the marines who themselves don't want the fatally flawed plane.
As far as wheether SDI was destabilizing, reagan administration membrs were pretty clear that was the point of the things, as was teh sr-71 soviet overflights, etc, so I don't see what your problem is. Also, if you think that SDI was or is workable, you don't understand what icbm missiles are. Or mirv warheads. If one warhead in a hundred get through from the kind of attack SDI and ABM are designed for, we're toast.
What's interesting to me is that you assume I'm a leftist when it comes to military matters, as I'm clearly not.
The problem with Tar Sands (and shales, for that matter) is the excessive amount of work needed to pull the stuff out of the ground makes it not very practical compared to other alternative fuels.
That's not to say that there areen't any more oil reserves out there, but sands and shales aren't the answers, at least not today...
Actually, I meant that things that affect IE users generally aren't so important to/. readers, or at least we don't think that things that affect ie users is what you come to/. to read about. Not so much zealotry than relevance.
I'm well aware that many companies simply mandate IE/XP/Whatever and I sympathize, I don't see it as a "all ie users are curdled" thing, that's too simplistic a view of the world.
I didn't perceive that as bullying, I can see how one might though. I was trying to get across that my read on slashdotters reaction to realnames in previous/. stories on the company.
This will be a little vauge, but his house overlooks the basiny area about a raleys and such. It's perched at teh top of one of the smaller hills surrounding gilroy.
His place is pretty cool, it's a wide low slung place, and when they built it, they drove 18' piles into the mountain to protect it from slides and quakes. Your experience sounds pretty wild , thugh, and not tame at all.
One of the reasons I posted this was I Wanted to see the range of experiences that area/. readers experienced, it's fascinating the range of responses (even considering the folks who may fudge their experience for others enjoyment).
So it's like this, would you say to yourself "X's policies on abortion are reprehensible, but since he is for freedom on the net, I'll vote for him" and vice versa?
That's the essence of the NRA, their membership votes guns, so the question is are there enough people to vote geek? (and pay a real membership fee)
It honestly wasn't intentional. It wasn't a time zone thing, I just haven't watched x-files in such a long time (the whole alien tease thing they did was too annoying for me) so I didn't think about when the story would hit on the west coast. My bad.
Anyhow, it's 9pm on the west coast so no real point in changing titles (something we are loathe to do), and well, a big apology to everyone who cares, and a big overall apology to people further along the dateline who we probably regularly ruin shows for. (But it is just TV, after all)
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That said, I think that proprietary software can use the ideas of open source to expand their influence and make money without opening up code. I've never belonged to the group that thinks that microsoft doesn't see that, either.
To a degree this story for me was about posting yet another microsoft trollm but a fun one. I hoped that people would notice Microsoft aping the least painful and most successful attributes of open source, that of interacting directly with the developers, without going though weird marketing layers.
Ironically, through it's MSDN plan,. microsoft has a good history of doing this, whether it is through the releasing of api specs or file formats, there isn't much they don't provide. That said what they don't provide is often telling. But I don't want to go on too long about this.
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And the fact that 2x6 is considered the bare minimum for framing is the sad part. Also, if you tr4y to surpervise the building in such a development I don't think you get a better home, all you see is all the drunks, criminals and amateurs who have ovverrun these mega developments. And yes, I know that there are honest trademen, but they quickly get away from the Ryland and toll bros as quickly as possible and work on projects that aren't going to nickle and dime them into poor quality work.
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Extreme Patents Bad
MPAA Bad
RIAA Bad
EFF Good
Free Speech Good
Video Games Good
Open Source Good
I am completely okay with you disagreeing with my analysis of the purchasability of George Bush, but to say that /. should be unbiased in it's coverage is to ignore the history and goals of slashdot. And to assume a default democratic bias is in my opinion unfounded, I mean, look at our criticism of Idiot Senator Hollings a senator so completely purchased that he must have a barcode tattooed on his forehead.
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This isn't to deny gentoos install base is enthusiastic, but quoting and pushign the distrowatch number is a bit dishonest as a true measure of growth.
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I personally don't like posting microsoft stories much, and this one kind of qualified as that too. I mean, that's part of what slashdot is about, so I do post them, but I don't like to post the exchange bug of the week, or the outrageous steve ballmer comment of the month, whatever.
So maybe that clears things up.
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I meant the first sentence to read: Well, I'd agree if slashdot was analogous to the front section of the paper instead of the opinion section.
The reason I said that we weren't going to run this story was a sort of explanation as to why you are seeing a week old story. The demand in the submission queue was there early, but we did think it was a blatant troll. In the end we decided to run it because the /. readership wanted it so badly.
I don't think it is censorship to not post every link submitted to us. We do get 400+ a day, and before you bring up an ope nsubmission queue, pleae note that has been addressed.
chrisd
As far as wheether SDI was destabilizing, reagan administration membrs were pretty clear that was the point of the things, as was teh sr-71 soviet overflights, etc, so I don't see what your problem is. Also, if you think that SDI was or is workable, you don't understand what icbm missiles are. Or mirv warheads. If one warhead in a hundred get through from the kind of attack SDI and ABM are designed for, we're toast.
What's interesting to me is that you assume I'm a leftist when it comes to military matters, as I'm clearly not.
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Chris
That's not to say that there areen't any more oil reserves out there, but sands and shales aren't the answers, at least not today...
Chris
I'm well aware that many companies simply mandate IE/XP/Whatever and I sympathize, I don't see it as a "all ie users are curdled" thing, that's too simplistic a view of the world.
chris
It wasn't my intention to sound bullying though.
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Chris
His place is pretty cool, it's a wide low slung place, and when they built it, they drove 18' piles into the mountain to protect it from slides and quakes. Your experience sounds pretty wild , thugh, and not tame at all.
One of the reasons I posted this was I Wanted to see the range of experiences that area /. readers experienced, it's fascinating the range of responses (even considering the folks who may fudge their experience for others enjoyment).
Chrisd
That's the essence of the NRA, their membership votes guns, so the question is are there enough people to vote geek? (and pay a real membership fee)
Chris
Chris
Anyhow, it's 9pm on the west coast so no real point in changing titles (something we are loathe to do), and well, a big apology to everyone who cares, and a big overall apology to people further along the dateline who we probably regularly ruin shows for. (But it is just TV, after all)
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