And here's a great e-week article which asks: Where would they get the power for the laptop from? And wouldn't a cell phone offer better cost/benifit?
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1759073,00. as p?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000605
The article: "Power Politics Overshadow $100 PC Concept February 2, 2005 By Guy Kewney DAVOS, Switzerland--Nicholas Negroponte, wandering around this city, was trying to get people excited about the idea of a very small, very cheap PC, costing $100. A favor, if you like, for the poor countries at the World Economic Forum, from the rich.
Nothing wrong with the idea, as another delegate to the WEF (World Economic Forum) pointed out last week.
But Wenchi Chen, founder and president of VIA Technologies, knows a bit more about small, cheap PCs, perhaps, than the MIT Media lab chief, and he pinpointed the flaw in Negroponte's pitch quickly enough. It's power.
I've been amazed at how few people in the First World really understand how important it is that PCs don't chew up wattage like an elephant munching hay. We've gotten so used to having cheap energy that we honestly don't realize we are paying to charge our mobile phones.
You can cure yourself of this blindness simply enough. Check out any online store for something such as the Maxxima hand generator, and then try it. Just try generating enough charge in your cell phone for a five-minute conversation. It really isn't funny; it's hard work for little result. And so now, try to imagine generating the power to run a 75W personal computer.
Chen's point at the WEF was simple: All of the things we are hoping to harness the personal computer to depend on power. "Even if we built a nuclear power station a day for the next few years, we wouldn't have enough to drive all the PCs we're hoping to build," he warned.
Naturally, VIA has an axe to grind: It has focused its technology, as have Transmeta and ARM, on the power budget. But the days of cheap energy can't be taken for granted anymore, and within a decade, it may be that even we in the West will have to share the Third World's concern with power budgets.
Whether we can have cheap energy or not, the remote, rural communities of Africa and China don't have the sort of revenue that would let them put a computer such as the Media Center in every home. And I think that's where Negroponte's vision exposes its Achilles heel: He's said the minimum order for his $100 PC would be a million.
Next Page: Better to buy a cell phone? As Peter Rojas pointed out sardonically enough, most poor villagers would rather buy a cell phone.
And indeed, why not? Cell phones are usually subsidized by the network operators for the text and call traffic revenue they generate. Increasingly, they have considerable local processing power--and, with the built-in camera, substantial local news-gathering ability, too. And the networks are now offering offline storage for trivial amounts.
Wenchi Chen is best known, in my part of the forest, for his mini-ITX range of motherboards which, amazingly, are forming a growing thicket of wireless mesh boxes providing rural broadband links to people who don't have ADSL or cable, and can't afford satellite. But the interesting thing for me about the low-power platform isn't just the wireless application.
Read more here about wireless mesh networking.
Rather, it's the discovery that more and more people are using these things as servers. And again, why not? It may take two or three low-power PCs to match the performance of a top-range Xeon, but the power budget is a tiny fraction.
And in a co-location center, they charge you for your heat output. And so smart guys are buying a half-dozen mini-ITX boxes and sticking them in their co-lo corner--and that's the cue for the Third World.
One machine per home may be a rich boy's dream. One machine per village, however, with mobile-phone peripheral access, is another matter. You can work out a power
A similar, single antenna system: 288 Mbits/sec that is going into beta next month.
This is being pitched, as the Siemens system will be, as a wireless backhaul solution. Not for devices. That will be the responsibility of another technology.
So all the references in the article to increasing consumer bandwidth demand are being used to underline the need for a big, fat, cost-effective (i.e. wireless) backhaul solution.
In 2010, we'll all be using IP SIP phones that will roam seamlessly between local area access points, but they won't be mothers like the one Siemens has developed.
Thought I'd address some people's comments and share some of the correspondence I've been getting.
The email I've been getting has been broken into a few classifiable types I'll go in order of volume:
1) "Me too" stories. There are so many of these, I find it hard to believe people are still shipping anything with UPS Ground. Some folks are crying for a class-action lawsuit but I am very skeptical of that idea. I'm going to pursue small claims from UPS, but it's hard to get a handle on an agent as a representative for them. Every time you call UPS, you are starting from Ground Zero. Their customer service has been by far the most frustrating part of this whole deal.
2) "You are an idiot" posts. I got a lot of posts/emails along these lines critiquing my packing job. For the record, I did not ship these things in their original foam cutouts. I DID use a thick, professional moving box, and packed it very tightly with bubble wrap and other items. Nothing could move around or shake. I shipped 9 boxes and 6 were severely damaged. The heaviest ones were the most damaged.
In hindsight, the equipment was not packed well enough. Do not ship anything electronic unless you have the original packaging, especially the foam cutouts. However, at the point of departure, the boxes were inspected and deemed good to go. I didn't put priority on the speed of the shipment, so I was lead to believe UPS Ground was a good choice. I had NO IDEA that UPS Ground stuff was treated so poorly compared to 3 day or next day delivery. Perhaps I was a little naive in this case, but it's not exactly common knowledge. I still feel that there was a lot of negligence on the part of UPS to take my few hundred dollars and proceed to destroy my shipment.
3) "You are a fake" posts. There have been people emailing me telling me that I did the damage myself or photoshopped images (???) to "create" the damage. I really don't know how to counter this except to come here and post myself. The RCA jack is a vid-in jack for a video capture card. It was the only card that stayed screwed into it's slots. The other cards bent. I can only assume that something rigid was pressed up against the back of the case and pushed the pin up. In any case, if I was an attention seeker, I would have written "anthrax" all over the shipment in big red letters. The only thing I did to the computers was unpack them, and take off the side panels. The side panel on the PC was still on, the G4 side panel was still closed, but the PowerTower Pro's panel had been sheared open a bit.
I can only assume that the damage done to computers was from shock, dropping, and forcibly confined among differently shaped objects. I can't even begin to speculate what happened to these boxes enroute.
Now for the good news, I have no progress getting compensation from UPS. However, a lot of people have emailed me saying that they were going to ship computers in moving boxes via UPS this week and are changing their plans and shipping next day with FedEX or USPS. From all of the "it happened to me too" emails I've received, it seems like a lot of people learn this lesson the hard way, as I did. Having so many people see the website and knowing I've done a small part in saving many a naïve geek (like myself) a lot of grief just makes my day.
There seems to be a lot of similar posts up, so I'll try and address them en masse:
1) No the computers were not all in one box. All the computers and the monitor were packed in separate boxes, with the exception of the G4 and the PowerTower Pro which were in the same box to keep things tight. I packed them as best I could with bubble wrap and other packing material. I did not pack them with their original foam cut-outs, I have long thrown those out. The equipment was packed *tight*. I packed it myself, although I was not present when the boxes were picked up.
2) Those boxes were almost new to begin with. No dings or tears. They are both UHaul and professional moving boxes.
3) I am not a veteran shipper. I thought UPS Ground was a dependable shipper as advertised.
From UPS website:
"UPS Standard service to the U.S. blends UPS's prompt, dependable delivery schedule with low-cost, fully tracked ground delivery for your routine shipments. A reliable choice for your less urgent shipments to the United States. "
4) The boxes were expected at the point of departure and cleared. The delivery man verbally assured the shipper that fragile items would be noted by handlers.
5) UPS does not insure ground shipments from Canada to the US. The shipper noted this but was encouraged by the delivery man to ship with UPS.
I have received many emails since I made this submission on/. of similar stories, and I see many posts complaining of similar damage. There are also many posts from (ex) UPS handlers who claim that the parcels are handled very roughly, dropped, flung around on conveyers, etc.
The most frustrating part of this whole experience has been trying to get a straight story from UPS. In so far I have been forwarded along with the blame from internal department to internal department for 2 weeks.
Where do I go from here?
1) BBB. I will file a complaint with them.
2) Small claims court. Next stop.
3) Class action? I'm new to the US. I'm not sure how this works. I've received suggestions from many that they experienced similar treatment and that this avenue is pursuable on behalf of us all. I'm more sceptical. I'd have to talk to a lawyer about this first.
email me @ jutusmanNO@SPAMyahoo.com
I have received many emails from people who are changing their equipment shipping plans in the coming days. I am glad some good came of this.
Finally, for those who asked, the PC was running FreeBSD, the PowerTower was running LinuxPPC, and the G4 was running OS X. And I loved them all, I'm sure those of you with "children" know what I'm talking about.;)
I didn't have the molded styrofoam for my computers. Most people don't.
I did pack the computers with enough bubblewrap to stop everything from moving. Also, the packing was inspected by UPS at the point of departure.
If UPS had refused to ship my parcel then and there, I would have taken it to another courier. Instead, I paid them a few hundred dollars and they shipped my goods with their "dependable" service.
Bottom line: The service is not as advertised.
If this kind of damage is beyond their control, they should warn consumers that they should only ship pillows and comforters with UPS in order to ensure "dependable" service.
Uh.. dude. I didn't just throw 3 tower and a 17" monitor in a box and ship it.
The PC was packed in a small 2 cu ft box.
The PowerTower Pro and G4 were packed in a 4 cu box.
The 17" monitor was packed in a seperate 4 cu ft box.
I used a LOT of padding, although I did not have the styrofoam cutouts that came with the units. Instead I used bubble wrap for padding and made sure that nothing could shake around/loose.
The shipment packing WAS inspected at the port of origin.
Please see my post regarding the latest correspondence. It details the reasons for lack of insurance. Insurance is not an option.
To me, the basis for my claim is that this is beyond normal shipping stress on items. IMHO, this is severe negligence on the part of UPS.
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Thanks for the hot tip!
Man, if only PC manufacturers had similar policies.
Well written. UPS does offer varying levels of insurance for most shipments. This is a special case for them, since it is a shipment of personal effects coming from *gasp* CANADA.
Thank you kindly for your concern. Seeing all the stories on this board made me realize that I'm not all that special in having personal effects demolished by UPS.
"Thank you for your inquiry. We sincerely apologize for the condition in which your merchandise arrived. We are unable to determine when or where any damage may have occurred to your uninsurable personal effects from Canada. Personal effects imported from Canada to the United States cannot be insured. We are unable to process a Damage Inspection Report for your computer.
Thank you for using UPS Internet Services.
Marilee"
So basically I'm screwed, period.
UPS Canada does not know if the shipment was damaged in the States, and vice versa. In accordance with UPS's policy on these matters, my only choice is to suck it. UPS does not respond to customer needs as one entity. It has a billion departments internally to shove your issue around to for weeks.
Again, if they had offered insurance, I would have taken it. They advertise "dependable" service, and this is my first (and last) time shipping with UPS. Obviously in hindsight I am a moron.
My oversight was in assuming "dependable" service includes your items arriving in one piece.
Anakin looks up to see Queen Amidala and Obi-Wan dressed like clones, holding
miniature billboards advertising the clone college and dancing to clone music.
"Amidala...?" asks Anakin slowly. "Yes, Anakin?" answers the clone Amidala, starting to hum clone music.
Anakin: That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clone college! [leaves]
Obi-Wan: I don't think any of us expected him to say that.
I'm here at WWDC, and this is correct. OS X will be installed on all shipping statements, but they will still boot into OS 9 by default. The idea is that new users will find it an easy task to switch into OS X. On Macs, holding down option on startup will scan all devices (including the network, I believe) for bootable volumes.
Other items of note.. OS X Server will be shipping, and WebObjects 5 is shipping.
Who is the madman that gets credit for this compiler?
Slow and steady she goes...
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The fact that OSX has the potential to be relatively hardware agnostic (not unlike WinNT..) has inspired all kinds of theories as to what role OS X on x86 has for Apple.
The truth is, coming from NeXT, SJ knows how hard it is to be a purely software company when you're peddling and alternative OS.
Make no mistake, OS X on x86 will never complement PowerPC Macs. OS X on x86 exists solely as an escape plan (not unlike the factors behind NT's HAL).
Apple has nothing to gain by expanding it's installed base at the expense of revenue. OpenStep was a disaster for NeXT.
OS X on x86 is the only real incentive for Moto to make 7400's better for PC use.
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Um, pardon my ignorance, but what *is* standard military voltage?
And here's a great e-week article which asks: Where would they get the power for the laptop from? And wouldn't a cell phone offer better cost/benifit?
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1759073,00. as p?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000605
The article:
"Power Politics Overshadow $100 PC Concept
February 2, 2005
By Guy Kewney
DAVOS, Switzerland--Nicholas Negroponte, wandering around this city, was trying to get people excited about the idea of a very small, very cheap PC, costing $100. A favor, if you like, for the poor countries at the World Economic Forum, from the rich.
Nothing wrong with the idea, as another delegate to the WEF (World Economic Forum) pointed out last week.
But Wenchi Chen, founder and president of VIA Technologies, knows a bit more about small, cheap PCs, perhaps, than the MIT Media lab chief, and he pinpointed the flaw in Negroponte's pitch quickly enough. It's power.
I've been amazed at how few people in the First World really understand how important it is that PCs don't chew up wattage like an elephant munching hay. We've gotten so used to having cheap energy that we honestly don't realize we are paying to charge our mobile phones.
You can cure yourself of this blindness simply enough. Check out any online store for something such as the Maxxima hand generator, and then try it. Just try generating enough charge in your cell phone for a five-minute conversation. It really isn't funny; it's hard work for little result. And so now, try to imagine generating the power to run a 75W personal computer.
Chen's point at the WEF was simple: All of the things we are hoping to harness the personal computer to depend on power. "Even if we built a nuclear power station a day for the next few years, we wouldn't have enough to drive all the PCs we're hoping to build," he warned.
Naturally, VIA has an axe to grind: It has focused its technology, as have Transmeta and ARM, on the power budget. But the days of cheap energy can't be taken for granted anymore, and within a decade, it may be that even we in the West will have to share the Third World's concern with power budgets.
Whether we can have cheap energy or not, the remote, rural communities of Africa and China don't have the sort of revenue that would let them put a computer such as the Media Center in every home. And I think that's where Negroponte's vision exposes its Achilles heel: He's said the minimum order for his $100 PC would be a million.
Next Page: Better to buy a cell phone?
As Peter Rojas pointed out sardonically enough, most poor villagers would rather buy a cell phone.
And indeed, why not? Cell phones are usually subsidized by the network operators for the text and call traffic revenue they generate. Increasingly, they have considerable local processing power--and, with the built-in camera, substantial local news-gathering ability, too. And the networks are now offering offline storage for trivial amounts.
Wenchi Chen is best known, in my part of the forest, for his mini-ITX range of motherboards which, amazingly, are forming a growing thicket of wireless mesh boxes providing rural broadband links to people who don't have ADSL or cable, and can't afford satellite. But the interesting thing for me about the low-power platform isn't just the wireless application.
Read more here about wireless mesh networking.
Rather, it's the discovery that more and more people are using these things as servers. And again, why not? It may take two or three low-power PCs to match the performance of a top-range Xeon, but the power budget is a tiny fraction.
And in a co-location center, they charge you for your heat output. And so smart guys are buying a half-dozen mini-ITX boxes and sticking them in their co-lo corner--and that's the cue for the Third World.
One machine per home may be a rich boy's dream. One machine per village, however, with mobile-phone peripheral access, is another matter. You can work out a power
http://www.wi-lan.com/products/libramx.htm
A similar, single antenna system: 288 Mbits/sec that is going into beta next month.
This is being pitched, as the Siemens system will be, as a wireless backhaul solution. Not for devices. That will be the responsibility of another technology.
So all the references in the article to increasing consumer bandwidth demand are being used to underline the need for a big, fat, cost-effective (i.e. wireless) backhaul solution.
In 2010, we'll all be using IP SIP phones that will roam seamlessly between local area access points, but they won't be mothers like the one Siemens has developed.
When I was in my freshmen year, a colleague emailed me a set of precompiler defines that would turn C++ code into ebonics C.
I have searched in vain for this on the net... that was in '95. Does anyone have information on ebonics C?
:)
cheap pc's?
Let's say you want a cheap, SMALL, silent pc. No need for an athlon.
Any web articles on that?
Thought I'd address some people's comments and share some of the correspondence I've been getting.
The email I've been getting has been broken into a few classifiable types I'll go in order of volume:
1) "Me too" stories. There are so many of these, I find it hard to believe people are still shipping anything with UPS Ground. Some folks are crying for a class-action lawsuit but I am very skeptical of that idea. I'm going to pursue small claims from UPS, but it's hard to get a handle on an agent as a representative for them. Every time you call UPS, you are starting from Ground Zero. Their customer service has been by far the most frustrating part of this whole deal.
2) "You are an idiot" posts. I got a lot of posts/emails along these lines critiquing my packing job. For the record, I did not ship these things in their original foam cutouts. I DID use a thick, professional moving box, and packed it very tightly with bubble wrap and other items. Nothing could move around or shake. I shipped 9 boxes and 6 were severely damaged. The heaviest ones were the most damaged.
In hindsight, the equipment was not packed well enough. Do not ship anything electronic unless you have the original packaging, especially the foam cutouts. However, at the point of departure, the boxes were inspected and deemed good to go. I didn't put priority on the speed of the shipment, so I was lead to believe UPS Ground was a good choice. I had NO IDEA that UPS Ground stuff was treated so poorly compared to 3 day or next day delivery. Perhaps I was a little naive in this case, but it's not exactly common knowledge. I still feel that there was a lot of negligence on the part of UPS to take my few hundred dollars and proceed to destroy my shipment.
3) "You are a fake" posts. There have been people emailing me telling me that I did the damage myself or photoshopped images (???) to "create" the damage. I really don't know how to counter this except to come here and post myself. The RCA jack is a vid-in jack for a video capture card. It was the only card that stayed screwed into it's slots. The other cards bent. I can only assume that something rigid was pressed up against the back of the case and pushed the pin up. In any case, if I was an attention seeker, I would have written "anthrax" all over the shipment in big red letters. The only thing I did to the computers was unpack them, and take off the side panels. The side panel on the PC was still on, the G4 side panel was still closed, but the PowerTower Pro's panel had been sheared open a bit.
I can only assume that the damage done to computers was from shock, dropping, and forcibly confined among differently shaped objects. I can't even begin to speculate what happened to these boxes enroute.
Now for the good news, I have no progress getting compensation from UPS. However, a lot of people have emailed me saying that they were going to ship computers in moving boxes via UPS this week and are changing their plans and shipping next day with FedEX or USPS. From all of the "it happened to me too" emails I've received, it seems like a lot of people learn this lesson the hard way, as I did. Having so many people see the website and knowing I've done a small part in saving many a naïve geek (like myself) a lot of grief just makes my day.
There seems to be a lot of similar posts up, so I'll try and address them en masse:
/. of similar stories, and I see many posts complaining of similar damage. There are also many posts from (ex) UPS handlers who claim that the parcels are handled very roughly, dropped, flung around on conveyers, etc.
;)
1) No the computers were not all in one box. All the computers and the monitor were packed in separate boxes, with the exception of the G4 and the PowerTower Pro which were in the same box to keep things tight. I packed them as best I could with bubble wrap and other packing material. I did not pack them with their original foam cut-outs, I have long thrown those out. The equipment was packed *tight*. I packed it myself, although I was not present when the boxes were picked up.
2) Those boxes were almost new to begin with. No dings or tears. They are both UHaul and professional moving boxes.
3) I am not a veteran shipper. I thought UPS Ground was a dependable shipper as advertised.
From UPS website:
"UPS Standard service to the U.S. blends UPS's prompt, dependable delivery schedule with low-cost, fully tracked ground delivery for your routine shipments. A reliable choice for your less urgent shipments to the United States. "
4) The boxes were expected at the point of departure and cleared. The delivery man verbally assured the shipper that fragile items would be noted by handlers.
5) UPS does not insure ground shipments from Canada to the US. The shipper noted this but was encouraged by the delivery man to ship with UPS.
I have received many emails since I made this submission on
The most frustrating part of this whole experience has been trying to get a straight story from UPS. In so far I have been forwarded along with the blame from internal department to internal department for 2 weeks.
Where do I go from here?
1) BBB. I will file a complaint with them.
2) Small claims court. Next stop.
3) Class action? I'm new to the US. I'm not sure how this works. I've received suggestions from many that they experienced similar treatment and that this avenue is pursuable on behalf of us all. I'm more sceptical. I'd have to talk to a lawyer about this first.
email me @ jutusmanNO@SPAMyahoo.com
I have received many emails from people who are changing their equipment shipping plans in the coming days. I am glad some good came of this.
Finally, for those who asked, the PC was running FreeBSD, the PowerTower was running LinuxPPC, and the G4 was running OS X. And I loved them all, I'm sure those of you with "children" know what I'm talking about.
Thank you kindly for your posts.
Those are actually dem fine, fine UHaul boxes. Made in the US of A with pride.
Hi,
Actually, I have a picture of the invoice and the slips on the boxes, but I removed it for privacy purposes, since it has addresses, etc, on it.
If you would like, I can email it to you.
Please email: jutusmanNO@SPAMyahoo.com
I didn't have the molded styrofoam for my computers. Most people don't.
I did pack the computers with enough bubblewrap to stop everything from moving. Also, the packing was inspected by UPS at the point of departure.
If UPS had refused to ship my parcel then and there, I would have taken it to another courier. Instead, I paid them a few hundred dollars and they shipped my goods with their "dependable" service.
Bottom line: The service is not as advertised.
If this kind of damage is beyond their control, they should warn consumers that they should only ship pillows and comforters with UPS in order to ensure "dependable" service.
Well, when the parcels arrived, the delivery dude laughed. I laughed too, until he left. And then I cried myself to sleep.
;p
Yes, you can buy insurance on *overseas* shipments... but not from Canada.
You see, in my native land, it is customary to raid UPS vehicles and bring our loot back to furnish our igloos.
I checked with State Farm.
Nope.
Uh.. dude. I didn't just throw 3 tower and a 17" monitor in a box and ship it.
The PC was packed in a small 2 cu ft box.
The PowerTower Pro and G4 were packed in a 4 cu box.
The 17" monitor was packed in a seperate 4 cu ft box.
I used a LOT of padding, although I did not have the styrofoam cutouts that came with the units. Instead I used bubble wrap for padding and made sure that nothing could shake around/loose.
The shipment packing WAS inspected at the port of origin.
Please see my post regarding the latest correspondence. It details the reasons for lack of insurance. Insurance is not an option.
To me, the basis for my claim is that this is beyond normal shipping stress on items. IMHO, this is severe negligence on the part of UPS.
Thanks for the hot tip!
Man, if only PC manufacturers had similar policies.
Well written. UPS does offer varying levels of insurance for most shipments. This is a special case for them, since it is a shipment of personal effects coming from *gasp* CANADA.
Thank you kindly for your concern. Seeing all the stories on this board made me realize that I'm not all that special in having personal effects demolished by UPS.
"Thank you for your inquiry. We sincerely apologize for the condition in which your merchandise arrived. We are unable to determine when or where any damage may have occurred to your uninsurable personal effects from Canada. Personal effects imported from Canada to the United States cannot be insured. We are unable to process a Damage Inspection Report for your computer.
Thank you for using UPS Internet Services.
Marilee"
So basically I'm screwed, period.
UPS Canada does not know if the shipment was damaged in the States, and vice versa. In accordance with UPS's policy on these matters, my only choice is to suck it. UPS does not respond to customer needs as one entity. It has a billion departments internally to shove your issue around to for weeks.
Again, if they had offered insurance, I would have taken it. They advertise "dependable" service, and this is my first (and last) time shipping with UPS. Obviously in hindsight I am a moron.
My oversight was in assuming "dependable" service includes your items arriving in one piece.
Further speculation...
Could it be possible that the tank was filled to capacity, and then some? Resulting in pressure high enough to implode the PVT's?
I'd think they'd have pressure gauges and/or backflow sensors. Who knows.
In any case, shit happens. Best of luck to the SuperK team in the rebuilding.
Me confused.
On that PPC roadmap, it claims the G5 will have "New bus topology/RapidIO Interconnect Architecture".
Does that mean it will use Rapid IO for communication between it's processor cores, or to talk to the North bridge?
Apple was one of the early members of the HyperTransport consortium... what does this say about the G5's motherboard architecture?
Anakin looks up to see Queen Amidala and Obi-Wan dressed like clones, holding miniature billboards advertising the clone college and dancing to clone music. "Amidala...?" asks Anakin slowly. "Yes, Anakin?" answers the clone Amidala, starting to hum clone music.
Anakin: That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clone college! [leaves]
Obi-Wan: I don't think any of us expected him to say that.
I'm here at WWDC, and this is correct. OS X will be installed on all shipping statements, but they will still boot into OS 9 by default. The idea is that new users will find it an easy task to switch into OS X. On Macs, holding down option on startup will scan all devices (including the network, I believe) for bootable volumes. Other items of note.. OS X Server will be shipping, and WebObjects 5 is shipping.
Who is the madman that gets credit for this compiler?
The fact that OSX has the potential to be relatively hardware agnostic (not unlike WinNT..) has inspired all kinds of theories as to what role OS X on x86 has for Apple.
The truth is, coming from NeXT, SJ knows how hard it is to be a purely software company when you're peddling and alternative OS.
Make no mistake, OS X on x86 will never complement PowerPC Macs. OS X on x86 exists solely as an escape plan (not unlike the factors behind NT's HAL).
Apple has nothing to gain by expanding it's installed base at the expense of revenue. OpenStep was a disaster for NeXT.
OS X on x86 is the only real incentive for Moto to make 7400's better for PC use.
Um, pardon my ignorance, but what *is* standard military voltage?
Mind sharing how?
Actually they're running solaris. And I don't even want to try and gues how many hits they're getting right now.