"Walk down to the local river, get a drink and be eaten by a crocodile." Now THAT's a great way to go, eh? Just make sure it gets you by the head and not by a leg or something...
It was the first programming language we were taught at Uni and it seriously turned me off programming. I hated that shite. When they started teaching us C it was like a breath of fresh air.
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p.s. I know I'm WRONG with this. The most respected programmers I know usually think Lisp is a very good language. There's a reason for that I'm sure but goddamn I hated it. Counting parenthesis on a vax (iirc) was a freaking pain.
They will not retain their current status perpetually though. History teaches us that even the largest of empires crumbles eventually. Especially if the citizens of that empire are complacent.
It may meet the needs of the average office clerk, but is that really hard to do?
I don't think it's about difficulty but rather about usefullness in general. There are a helluva lot more secretaries than scientists.
It doesn't meet the needs of a scientist.
Does word?
If I was a scientist i'd be inclined to use some-autogenerating-xml-to-whatever format anyway such as docbook or TeX.
Still, if your friend needs the wysiwyg interface (hey, why not if it makes things easier?) and all of Word's features it looks like she may have to wait.
she gives it an honest try every time a new version comes out.
Well good on her, that's a decent strategy =) It's a great idea for her to keep checking back periodically to see if OO.o has caught up. Also if she has specific problems with OO.o the developers may be interested in hearing them... the features she desires may not even be on the devel's radar.
VBA is actually a pretty formiddable scripting language.
No it isn't. I've never had to write it but I've had to debug it and friend of mine write it (they hate it). It's a scripting language for drooling morons who aren't good programmers and probably never will be. Don't worry, I'm not a very good programmer either but I can still see that VB sucks.
From what I can see the only half-decent thing about VB is the low barrier to entry. Just like all MS products: easy to learn, impossible to master because it's got bugs, has certain features extremely poorly implemented or has stuff missing.
I think you bring up a very interesting point xtal.
This is a theme you see in education all the time - you don't need to understand or have a degree in, oh, say physics in order to teach physics. Yeah, right. You can't teach something you don't understand at a fundamental level.
Indeed. Following on from this point people tend not to sincerely respect a leader who hasn't spent a few years "in the trenches" themselves, doing what it is they are directing their subordinates to do.
I think this explains a great deal of the common bad attitudes that exist between operational staff and management today: many current managers were trained in *management* rather than the field they are managing. Most of them have never had to do the jobs they are asking others to do. Most of them didn't work there way up from the peon level. Therefore they seem clueless: they don't have a deep understanding of the actual task.
Of course, having engineers become managers isn't necessarily a recipe for success either.
One thing I think some miss is that Carly is a piece/character in someone else's game too. Someone put her where she is. She didn't work out but I'm sure people garnered a better idea of her strengths and weaknesses. She'll be put somewhere else where she's more likely to succeed. People are mentioning the World Bank and gnashing their teeth. I have no idea but perhaps there's a perception that in the World Bank she'll integrate better or be whipped into shape by her immediate contemporaries. She may be crap with technology but good with finance.
As near as I can tell from reading recent comments on this particular decision, the single biggest reason they don't want to do 2.7 is because not enough people will test it.
Perhaps you have your wires crossed. Discussion surrounding the desire for more testing was regarding the release candidates. Linus claimed that the rc's got a lot less testing because they weren't official versions.
The main point of not forking off 2.7 apparently is the developers are trying to avoid a large divergence of code in the major kernel versions, which has led to problems in the past.
Don't try to pretend that Windows is even half-safe on the Internet: you just look like a moron.
Actually sorry about that bit... uncalled for. I got a little angry because I've spent so much time fixing friends and families spyware-infested PCs now it's starting to get really frustrating.
You can protect yourself somewhat from the ActiveX exploits by running Firefox. That's what I recommend.
Still, I don't trust any Windows component or application due to repeated bad experience with them.
All in all I see that Intel is going down unless they do something quick.
Did I miss the memo? Is Intel the new Apple or something? Must we keep hearing the same old bullshit speculation that, apparently "Intel is Dying!" ??
I'm no Intel fanboi (I run AMD at home) but unless the AMD chips start sucking my dick I just don't see the massive difference some of you claim is there.
You mean he's done something more wonderful than what could have been done if all those billions had not been siphoned out of the economy?
I'd daresay Microsoft has been a benefit to economies internationally. They have a good number of employees. Their software is used to "enable" other business to be more effective. They have been a catalyst for growth in the computing industry.
The Bill and Melinda G Foundation donates money to places like Africa. Places where Windows may not actually be sold =) In the end, like most charities, the model is Robin Hood like: Take money from the rich, give to the poor.
I don't like BG/MS one IOTA but this "Taking $40B and giving back $10B" idea is not connected with reality.
After three months of owning the sportscar, a drunken uninsured pensioner ran a red light, smashed into a bus and ricocheted off into the front of my car.
The police turned up and breathtested and questioned both me and the idiot. Onlookers (there were many eyewitnesses) were shocked to see me get breathtested. They had seen that I was simply waiting at the lights.
The dudes who fixed my car took over two months to complete the work. I was screaming down the phone towards the end of that.
A few months later a woman tried to do a hit-n-run on me. Lucky I got her numberplate because my rear bumper and rear panel cost around $1800 to fix IIRC.
A year or so later, on a particularly windy night the entire roof and ceiling of the apartments next door came off and landed on my car. This one ended up being put down as "My Fault" because it was apparently an "Act of God(tm)". I had never realised before then that I was, indeed, God.
I just thought those little anecdotes might put a genuine smile on your dial at your time of woe and envy. You are most welcome.
10th year of "Year of Linux" - 9th year of "Linux in the server room" - 8th year of "Linux in the enterprise" - 7th year of "Linux in a cluster" - 6th year of "Linux on the Desktop" - 5th year of "Random WTF Linux (e.g. pen, Dreamcast)" - 4th year of "We need some standards in Linux" - 3rd year of "Company X Aligning with Linux" - 2nd year of "Linux means Communism(tm)" - 1st year of "Linux means Litigation(tm)"
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Yes. It should read:
2.9.99-9-no-justification-for-bumping-the-major
2.8
2.6
2.4
2.2
2.0
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Stor
Mum says puppy's days are through...
"Walk down to the local river, get a drink and be eaten by a crocodile." Now THAT's a great way to go, eh? Just make sure it gets you by the head and not by a leg or something...
I doubt you'll be given a choice in the matter.
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Stor
Dunno, personally I've made it a point to tell some variant of "yeah, go do it" to anyone playing the suicidal role.
I hope you're joking/trolling. If not please consider recommending them on to a counselor instead. Thanks.
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Stor
...and blessed with Holy Steve Jobs Pee
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Now if only people would rethink and take the pain of learning a real, elegant language... a functional (Lisp, Scheme, Haskell, ML)
p rogrammers))))(((find)(scheme)))) )?
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It was the first programming language we were taught at Uni and it seriously turned me off programming. I hated that shite. When they started teaching us C it was like a breath of fresh air.
Cheers
Stor
p.s. I know I'm WRONG with this. The most respected programmers I know usually think Lisp is a very good language. There's a reason for that I'm sure but goddamn I hated it. Counting parenthesis on a vax (iirc) was a freaking pain.
They won't spontaneously combust, no.
They will not retain their current status perpetually though. History teaches us that even the largest of empires crumbles eventually. Especially if the citizens of that empire are complacent.
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Stor
Yeah we should give MS props for Wine too then I guess.
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Stor
omfg. It's true! IBM *was* (is?) evil!
The pain... the suffering... oh, the humanity!
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Stor
It may meet the needs of the average office clerk, but is that really hard to do?
I don't think it's about difficulty but rather about usefullness in general. There are a helluva lot more secretaries than scientists.
It doesn't meet the needs of a scientist.
Does word?
If I was a scientist i'd be inclined to use some-autogenerating-xml-to-whatever format anyway such as docbook or TeX.
Still, if your friend needs the wysiwyg interface (hey, why not if it makes things easier?) and all of Word's features it looks like she may have to wait.
she gives it an honest try every time a new version comes out.
Well good on her, that's a decent strategy =) It's a great idea for her to keep checking back periodically to see if OO.o has caught up. Also if she has specific problems with OO.o the developers may be interested in hearing them... the features she desires may not even be on the devel's radar.
Cheers
Stor
VBA is actually a pretty formiddable scripting language.
No it isn't. I've never had to write it but I've had to debug it and friend of mine write it (they hate it). It's a scripting language for drooling morons who aren't good programmers and probably never will be. Don't worry, I'm not a very good programmer either but I can still see that VB sucks.
From what I can see the only half-decent thing about VB is the low barrier to entry. Just like all MS products: easy to learn, impossible to master because it's got bugs, has certain features extremely poorly implemented or has stuff missing.
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Stor
you should thank MS for creating work opportunities.
I guess cleaners should thank people for vomiting on the floor or smearing feces on the wall then too.
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Stor
I think you bring up a very interesting point xtal.
This is a theme you see in education all the time - you don't need to understand or have a degree in, oh, say physics in order to teach physics. Yeah, right. You can't teach something you don't understand at a fundamental level.
Indeed. Following on from this point people tend not to sincerely respect a leader who hasn't spent a few years "in the trenches" themselves, doing what it is they are directing their subordinates to do.
I think this explains a great deal of the common bad attitudes that exist between operational staff and management today: many current managers were trained in *management* rather than the field they are managing. Most of them have never had to do the jobs they are asking others to do. Most of them didn't work there way up from the peon level. Therefore they seem clueless: they don't have a deep understanding of the actual task.
Of course, having engineers become managers isn't necessarily a recipe for success either.
One thing I think some miss is that Carly is a piece/character in someone else's game too. Someone put her where she is. She didn't work out but I'm sure people garnered a better idea of her strengths and weaknesses. She'll be put somewhere else where she's more likely to succeed. People are mentioning the World Bank and gnashing their teeth. I have no idea but perhaps there's a perception that in the World Bank she'll integrate better or be whipped into shape by her immediate contemporaries. She may be crap with technology but good with finance.
Cheers
Stor
As near as I can tell from reading recent comments on this particular decision, the single biggest reason they don't want to do 2.7 is because not enough people will test it.
Perhaps you have your wires crossed. Discussion surrounding the desire for more testing was regarding the release candidates. Linus claimed that the rc's got a lot less testing because they weren't official versions.
The main point of not forking off 2.7 apparently is the developers are trying to avoid a large divergence of code in the major kernel versions, which has led to problems in the past.
Cheers
Stor
three geeks and a life size cardboard cutout of natalie portman?
"Before" or "After" shots?
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Stor
Don't try to pretend that Windows is even half-safe on the Internet: you just look like a moron.
Actually sorry about that bit... uncalled for. I got a little angry because I've spent so much time fixing friends and families spyware-infested PCs now it's starting to get really frustrating.
You can protect yourself somewhat from the ActiveX exploits by running Firefox. That's what I recommend.
Still, I don't trust any Windows component or application due to repeated bad experience with them.
Anyway sorry for the outburst.
Cheers
Stor
Not that you couldn't just bundle in SP2 and turn the firewall on by default, eh?
That makes FUCK ALL difference from my experience. It doesn't seem to protect you from ActiveX exploits and such.
I've spent a couple of weekends fixing people's apparently sp2 firewall-protected Windows boxes.
Dead as fuck. Format and reinstall required. They may as well have been empty plastic boxes.
Don't try to pretend that Windows is even half-safe on the Internet: you just look like a moron.
Stor
I wonder what it will take to knock the complacency out of people.
Nothing knocks the complacency out of people like a good ol' fashioned exploit =)
There's nothing like the feeling you get when you type 'ps' and get a segfault. System Administration is not for the weak of heart.
I rarely ramble on about the virtues of Linux now because I know that as soon as I do, one of my servers will start flaking out.
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Stor
All in all I see that Intel is going down unless they do something quick.
Did I miss the memo? Is Intel the new Apple or something? Must we keep hearing the same old bullshit speculation that, apparently "Intel is Dying!" ??
I'm no Intel fanboi (I run AMD at home) but unless the AMD chips start sucking my dick I just don't see the massive difference some of you claim is there.
Cheers
Stor
You mean he's done something more wonderful than what could have been done if all those billions had not been siphoned out of the economy?
I'd daresay Microsoft has been a benefit to economies internationally. They have a good number of employees. Their software is used to "enable" other business to be more effective. They have been a catalyst for growth in the computing industry.
The Bill and Melinda G Foundation donates money to places like Africa. Places where Windows may not actually be sold =) In the end, like most charities, the model is Robin Hood like: Take money from the rich, give to the poor.
I don't like BG/MS one IOTA but this "Taking $40B and giving back $10B" idea is not connected with reality.
Cheers
Stor
Oops, I forgot to log in when I posted that! No, really, it was me! You can send the check to the address in my profile!
I'm the original "Twirl" poster!!
No, I'm the original "Twirl" poster!!
I'm the original "Twirl" poster and so is my wife!!
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p.s. Monty Python, Life of Brian
After three months of owning the sportscar, a drunken uninsured pensioner ran a red light, smashed into a bus and ricocheted off into the front of my car.
The police turned up and breathtested and questioned both me and the idiot. Onlookers (there were many eyewitnesses) were shocked to see me get breathtested. They had seen that I was simply waiting at the lights.
The dudes who fixed my car took over two months to complete the work. I was screaming down the phone towards the end of that.
A few months later a woman tried to do a hit-n-run on me. Lucky I got her numberplate because my rear bumper and rear panel cost around $1800 to fix IIRC.
A year or so later, on a particularly windy night the entire roof and ceiling of the apartments next door came off and landed on my car. This one ended up being put down as "My Fault" because it was apparently an "Act of God(tm)". I had never realised before then that I was, indeed, God.
I just thought those little anecdotes might put a genuine smile on your dial at your time of woe and envy. You are most welcome.
Cheers
Stor
10th year of "Year of Linux"
- 9th year of "Linux in the server room"
- 8th year of "Linux in the enterprise"
- 7th year of "Linux in a cluster"
- 6th year of "Linux on the Desktop"
- 5th year of "Random WTF Linux (e.g. pen, Dreamcast)"
- 4th year of "We need some standards in Linux"
- 3rd year of "Company X Aligning with Linux"
- 2nd year of "Linux means Communism(tm)"
- 1st year of "Linux means Litigation(tm)"
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Stor
The question isn't why this made the front page, but whether the same story will be on tomorrow's /.
Pardon me but I think the question is more appropriate as a wager:
Will it be re-posted in the morning or afternoon?
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Stor
Indeed I _was_ thinking in mono.
It could be a little nasty at 12k, depending on the codec. ACELP is good for low-bitrate voice.
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