Not only that, If you begrudgingly sign up for
Verzion DSL, since there is nothing else in your area, you get Bing installed as your default
search when the URL is invalid.
So Yes M$ is Pouring the Cash at Bing in many ways.
Now I put Google back, many will not know how
and inflate the Bing score, even if the searches
are ignored by people that use google by chose.
We need to do the last mile our selves.
The FCC needs to do there job and give
people the right to put our wireless
router on the roof and forward local traffic.
Until then its communications by the monopoly
for the monopoly. We can not get a competition
between ISPs until the last mile can be done
without total control between 1 or 3 super providers.
After that, perhaps a work program can be set up
to run backbone lines as a way to make jobs for people
out of work. It's all about creating the infrastructure.
Now I thought Multics lives on, due to a guy from Bell Labs that played a space game later when he lost access to his account. He wrote a little known OS, it was a Uni layer version, and then wrote a new space game.
Well, if nobody does the work then it'll definitely never happen.
I am with you. You have to try!
But your example breaks down.
I'm sure if somebody had told Newton about this wonderful thing called Nuclear energy he'd've laughed in their face. Likewise, I can't imagine anybody of that era seriously believing that we'd have the Internet.
I will give you the Internet thing.
But ponder this.
In that time frame Computers where people.
Networking was the mail man.
Packets where sent via courier.
So one could perhaps
call the postal service an Internet.
Its a matter of perspective.
58.44 is nothing, as is 5.58880653. Unless you add the units. 58.44 grams = 5.58880653 ounces. Grade school Science class will teach you this. In science a number without its units is nonsense. Pi = 3.14159 is a ratio and thus has no units.
So try your google search with units. And low and behold bingo it matches.
Unless we miss the point. Let not start searching for salt.
First There should be a base fee,
for the maintenance to get to the grid.
This should be small just perhaps a dollar or 2 a month.
This is just to cover costs for no actual use at all.
For the wiring from the house to the poll.
Second power is bought at a lesser rate then its sold.
Some thing like half, a massive difference in, price
for selling power. This is how the infrastructure
should be payed for.
All of the costs must be monopoly
controlled my the government so as not to destroy the economy
from the greed of the infrastructure providers.
Compare with Broadband providers and you can see why
we must have government oversight.
If the government wanted us to have Mesh Network
we could have done it in the mid 1990 using
Wireless grids. That is until the FCC sold
the spectrum to the "Man".
With over 300 shareable channels with
2.4 GHz bandwidth each
with a ranges from 5 to 10 miles.
Nothing the lobbyists would let the FCC share with us.
The "man" rules the communication, no way
speech should be free.
Grab a good template POD that can invoke PERL functions
so you have a server side pages in the form of a tool
kit and write an DBI inerface. and Poof 95% of your
applications are your web page, no more quoting your web pages in your programs. Better then PHP since its PERL.
Wrighting Rails is also not a hard thing.
You are looking at the sad FCC limitations
on WiFi. The low power restrictions make it
useless for Broadband Access. In that
regard You are correct. I will add that
he current Broadband providers want to push this misconception! Are you one of them?
The truth of the matter is that Apple Computer Co.(remember them?) know better and
have tried to get spectrum allocated for
Broadband Access a few times. But Broadband
providers seem to lobby the FCC and we lose.
Also Broadband is not TV.
If you want TV get a cable.
I want Email, web content,
and to play MMOs. Oh and I bet
your cable does not actually
give you a 10Mb data path.
proper WiFi, not the FCC trash
we currently have will give us a
around 10Mb per user. So Apple's
claimed in its design for a
metropolitan area.
So WiFi should be better then cable
or Fiber. Since the providers
will offen not provide that much
through put.
This is exactly the kind of thing where Barack Obama
should be spending his change money.
It not only is putting MS in its place the right thing to do
this promotes the computer technology he has promised us.
Times have changed, though, and the ability to monopolize the hearts and minds of kids with the only computer they're exposed to is long gone. Many of the kids will already have PCs at home, many will have (or at least have played) X-Boxes, PS3s, Wiis and a host of other devices,
Your talking about game platforms.
What is important in schools is learning.
Open Source gives that in ways the game platforms can not.
Unfortunately, the moral imperative for schools to use exclusively Free Software is not even a consideration here.
Moral issues are only a side line here for schools.
What is important here is an Open Source platform line Linux
gives the students a place to learn the simple things about computers
far better then the mind less numb of the so called main stream brand.
Students have all the tools to take the system apart and simple tools
to learn how to program. Without the tools to program all you get is toast.
I live 25 miles north east of Baltimore.
Right off of I-95, next to Aberdeen.
Not more then 3 miles from the Verizon
City center switch. I am the same distance
from the Cable Co head quarters.
Sure I can get cable TV, but not
cable broadband.
So I expect there are many people
that are not getting good service.
Sure I can get cable TV, but not
cable broadband.
Yes I know about Wimax still waiting.
The best thing would be if the FCC
allowed a mesh of WiMax nodes and
let the capitalist system provide many local
ISP's to compete for my money.
But no, The FCC provided lobbyist build monopoly's owner ship
of all the free space, leaving none for the people.
Oh wait there are two of them, Fiber and Cable.
So its ok... right?!?!?
Its about time.... 10 MegaBits would do. There are a lot of homes that the Broadband suppliers will not touch, the 12 people on my street are only a few 10/th of a mile from a main back bone... But There is noting but dial up here...
So who is going to supply cheap hardware and backbone connections.. that should put the big Broadband suppliers out of business.
I hope Oracle includes some sort of automatic patch tool with this distro.
There quarterly patches are quite a pain. Although I admit they are getting better
as of late.
I think the point is more Is your Web the same as My Web. I live in the open web. You may go to the closed web. If your government published in closed formats. and I can see the links, is the content part of the web. Not if we are talking about an open web based on open source formats and content.
So my web and your web may over lap in some cases. But I don't call it 'The Web" if I can't get to it without closed products that only run on closed architectures.
Imagine Microsoft having no Killer apps, and that an open source
operating system was as good, or most likely better then the one MS
offered. Do you think the world might change. Just a little.
Linux had a community. It was the Minux community
that was starting to had problems with patches. Since the
base code had a bad copyright, and thus could not be freely
transmitted. And patching patches or still more patches just
got out of hand. The GPL that Linux used ended all that and
allowed Linux to take off.
You should also note that other frequencies (5.8 GHz, 2.4GHz, etc.) are free for all, so long as the power does not exceed a certain amount.
I sure am aware of the 5.8 GHz, 2.4GHz, bands.
The is the power rating is so low its not useful
as a roof top network node.
What the FCC needs to give the people that pay
there salary is the same power ratings that we
hold to the side of our heads all the time.
That would be Cell phones.
We also need
fare sharing protocols that are easy enough
to figure out. This would give local ISP's a
foot hold that would allow for fare competition
with out the need for all the wires that limit
competition.
I appreciate your correction. I am not a radio guy
but rather a computer scientist.
But my point is this,
the Internet is the town square of the 21 century.
The founding fathers would be appalled that we are
taxed by monopolies to assess that town square.
Perhaps short of Dish TV quantity's of data, there is
Adequate bandwidth for roof top Internet access and
traffic routing. I know this based on a 1994 petition
that Apple computer Inc. sent to the FCC, but was rejected.
This sort of thing was apposed by the AT&T Lobby,
since it would make local make local phone service
obsolete. It also would have replaced the cash cow
of the Cell networks with a free home grown network.
As for me I through out the idea of being taxed to
use the cell phone nets long before there existence
was popular. And the local Broadband providers can't
seem to reach my house not so rural house. So I seek
out the local bread shop where WiFi is provided.
The answer is If the Phone Co. makes money on it its safe. Look at cell phones, next to your ear nest to your head, safe. WiFi routers on the roof, will kill you. What more is there to say? Just who is create enough suspicion, is what I want to know. And perhaps who is playing to have this suspicion created?
Slashdot Mirror
This is dead on. the post I was about to make.
Not only that, If you begrudgingly sign up for Verzion DSL, since there is nothing else in your area, you get Bing installed as your default search when the URL is invalid. So Yes M$ is Pouring the Cash at Bing in many ways.
Now I put Google back, many will not know how and inflate the Bing score, even if the searches are ignored by people that use google by chose.
We need to do the last mile our selves. The FCC needs to do there job and give people the right to put our wireless router on the roof and forward local traffic. Until then its communications by the monopoly for the monopoly. We can not get a competition between ISPs until the last mile can be done without total control between 1 or 3 super providers.
After that, perhaps a work program can be set up to run backbone lines as a way to make jobs for people out of work. It's all about creating the infrastructure.
Now I thought Multics lives on, due to a guy from Bell Labs
that played a space game later when he lost access to his account.
He wrote a little known OS, it was a Uni layer version, and then
wrote a new space game.
Well, if nobody does the work then it'll definitely never happen.
I am with you. You have to try!
But your example breaks down.
I'm sure if somebody had told Newton about this wonderful thing called Nuclear energy he'd've laughed in their face. Likewise, I can't imagine anybody of that era seriously believing that we'd have the Internet.
You see Sir, Isaac Newton was an Alchemist. He would not have laughed he would have wanted to know more.
I will give you the Internet thing. But ponder this. In that time frame Computers where people. Networking was the mail man. Packets where sent via courier. So one could perhaps call the postal service an Internet. Its a matter of perspective.
58.44 is nothing, as is 5.58880653.
Unless you add the units.
58.44 grams = 5.58880653 ounces.
Grade school Science class will teach you this.
In science a number without its units is nonsense.
Pi = 3.14159 is a ratio and thus has no units.
So try your google search with units.
And low and behold bingo it matches.
Unless we miss the point.
Let not start searching for salt.
First There should be a base fee, for the maintenance to get to the grid. This should be small just perhaps a dollar or 2 a month. This is just to cover costs for no actual use at all. For the wiring from the house to the poll.
Second power is bought at a lesser rate then its sold. Some thing like half, a massive difference in, price for selling power. This is how the infrastructure should be payed for.
All of the costs must be monopoly controlled my the government so as not to destroy the economy from the greed of the infrastructure providers.
Compare with Broadband providers and you can see why we must have government oversight.
Go see the galaxyzoo
website where people like you and Me catagorize galaxies.
Its human powered picture clasification.
Perhaps looking at cool space images are quite the draw
that Von Braun's Notes can't live up to.
You are exactly correct.
If the government wanted us to have Mesh Network we could have done it in the mid 1990 using Wireless grids. That is until the FCC sold the spectrum to the "Man". With over 300 shareable channels with 2.4 GHz bandwidth each with a ranges from 5 to 10 miles. Nothing the lobbyists would let the FCC share with us.
The "man" rules the communication, no way speech should be free.
Grab a good template POD that can invoke PERL functions so you have a server side pages in the form of a tool kit and write an DBI inerface. and Poof 95% of your applications are your web page, no more quoting your web pages in your programs. Better then PHP since its PERL. Wrighting Rails is also not a hard thing.
You are looking at the sad FCC limitations on WiFi. The low power restrictions make it useless for Broadband Access. In that regard You are correct. I will add that he current Broadband providers want to push this misconception! Are you one of them?
The truth of the matter is that Apple Computer Co.(remember them?) know better and have tried to get spectrum allocated for Broadband Access a few times. But Broadband providers seem to lobby the FCC and we lose.
Also Broadband is not TV. If you want TV get a cable. I want Email, web content, and to play MMOs. Oh and I bet your cable does not actually give you a 10Mb data path. proper WiFi, not the FCC trash we currently have will give us a around 10Mb per user. So Apple's claimed in its design for a metropolitan area.
So WiFi should be better then cable or Fiber. Since the providers will offen not provide that much through put.
This is exactly the kind of thing where Barack Obama should be spending his change money. It not only is putting MS in its place the right thing to do this promotes the computer technology he has promised us.
Times have changed, though, and the ability to monopolize the hearts and minds of kids with the only computer they're exposed to is long gone. Many of the kids will already have PCs at home, many will have (or at least have played) X-Boxes, PS3s, Wiis and a host of other devices,
Your talking about game platforms. What is important in schools is learning. Open Source gives that in ways the game platforms can not.
Unfortunately, the moral imperative for schools to use exclusively Free Software is not even a consideration here.
Moral issues are only a side line here for schools.
What is important here is an Open Source platform line Linux gives the students a place to learn the simple things about computers far better then the mind less numb of the so called main stream brand. Students have all the tools to take the system apart and simple tools to learn how to program. Without the tools to program all you get is toast.
I live 25 miles north east of Baltimore. Right off of I-95, next to Aberdeen. Not more then 3 miles from the Verizon City center switch. I am the same distance from the Cable Co head quarters. Sure I can get cable TV, but not cable broadband.
So I expect there are many people that are not getting good service. Sure I can get cable TV, but not cable broadband.
Yes I know about Wimax still waiting.
The best thing would be if the FCC allowed a mesh of WiMax nodes and let the capitalist system provide many local ISP's to compete for my money.
But no, The FCC provided lobbyist build monopoly's owner ship of all the free space, leaving none for the people. Oh wait there are two of them, Fiber and Cable. So its ok... right?!?!?
Its about time.... 10 MegaBits would do.
There are a lot of homes that the Broadband
suppliers will not touch, the 12 people on
my street are only a few 10/th of a mile from
a main back bone... But There is noting but
dial up here...
So who is going to supply cheap hardware and
backbone connections.. that should put the big
Broadband suppliers out of business.
I hope Oracle includes some sort of automatic patch tool with this distro. There quarterly patches are quite a pain. Although I admit they are getting better as of late.
I hope the counts includes all the places that the cable and fiber providers that provide 0 Mbps. When we are only stones throw away, all in Maryland.
IMHO the zeros should be factored in with a large weighting. I would be happy with 1.4 Mbps (t1 speeds) and a low latency.
I think the point is more Is your Web the same as My Web.
I live in the open web. You may go to the closed web.
If your government published in closed formats.
and I can see the links, is the content part of
the web. Not if we are talking about an open web
based on open source formats and content.
So my web and your web may over lap in some cases.
But I don't call it 'The Web" if I can't get to it without
closed products that only run on closed architectures.
Who's web has more spiders?
Imagine Microsoft having no Killer apps, and that an open source operating system was as good, or most likely better then the one MS offered. Do you think the world might change. Just a little.
Linux had a community. It was the Minux community that was starting to had problems with patches. Since the base code had a bad copyright, and thus could not be freely transmitted. And patching patches or still more patches just got out of hand. The GPL that Linux used ended all that and allowed Linux to take off.
You should also note that other frequencies (5.8 GHz, 2.4GHz, etc.) are free for all, so long as the power does not exceed a certain amount.
I sure am aware of the 5.8 GHz, 2.4GHz, bands. The is the power rating is so low its not useful as a roof top network node.
What the FCC needs to give the people that pay there salary is the same power ratings that we hold to the side of our heads all the time. That would be Cell phones.
We also need fare sharing protocols that are easy enough to figure out. This would give local ISP's a foot hold that would allow for fare competition with out the need for all the wires that limit competition.
I appreciate your correction. I am not a radio guy but rather a computer scientist.
But my point is this, the Internet is the town square of the 21 century. The founding fathers would be appalled that we are taxed by monopolies to assess that town square.
Perhaps short of Dish TV quantity's of data, there is Adequate bandwidth for roof top Internet access and traffic routing. I know this based on a 1994 petition that Apple computer Inc. sent to the FCC, but was rejected.
This sort of thing was apposed by the AT&T Lobby, since it would make local make local phone service obsolete. It also would have replaced the cash cow of the Cell networks with a free home grown network.
Here is a good reference about how little head way amateur radio community has so far exibited.
As for me I through out the idea of being taxed to use the cell phone nets long before there existence was popular. And the local Broadband providers can't seem to reach my house not so rural house. So I seek out the local bread shop where WiFi is provided.
The rub is the local House of Delegates would criminalize purposely surfing the Internet on someone else's wireless connection. And this would be just one more way for the for the Government to take away our freedom of speech!
PS. I appreciate the support of the original poster as well.
Seems the FCC only lets us have that in the 5Hz to 400 kHz ranges.
The FCC then sells the rest to corporations that in turn tax us for its use.
Perhaps Houston got this right?
When I more there to get away
from the Internet Monopoly that
does not provide where I live, the
Income in that block will go up.
And I bet I am not the only one
that cant stand the Internet Monopoly
most of live in.
The answer is If the Phone Co. makes money on it its safe.
Look at cell phones, next to your ear nest to your head, safe.
WiFi routers on the roof, will kill you. What more is there to say?
Just who is create enough suspicion, is what I want to know.
And perhaps who is playing to have this suspicion created?