Oh, that's not the web. Microsoft is not the web. Why would I down load Silverlight to see some MS page. Anyway, I am Betting it will not work on my KDE desktop. M$ tends to expect you to run there OS... So its not the interoperable thus is not the web.
P2P does not make it illegal. Here are many legal uses of P2P. One example is MMO's sharing patches. Just the fact that ISP's do not like P2P, since it lets people actually use the Internet as intended bothers the ISP's. Its much simpler to cache A TV show and feed it over the local pipe them it is for everyone to get it from there friends recorder.
"teenagers are generally more likely to change their behavior than older Internet users".
The Internet was P2P in the first place. Older users know this. Servers talking to servers... What you don't have a server?
I agree, you get more hops.
I would rather have the hops
Many of us right now have 0 hops.
as home right now. Or an old 56KB modem.
I would rather have the hops, and I would
also like more then 2 places to get access.
The phone and cable is not all the ISP's
we could have if we had a mesh Network.
Its not like I am telling you you can't
use your Phone or Cable network.
But why not have a Mesh Network as well.
Roof Top boxes would work, if only the FCC
had let Apple start the ball rolling in the 90's.
Its no wounder we are so far behind so much
of the world in connectivity.
The value if the Internet is that it is a two way street.
Originally all Internet access nodes where servers.
The Internet is said to be the next big thing
after the printing press. But If your not serving
data your just a TV viewer. Watching what others
have filtered. Yes we have/. But We should all
have our own servers.
But now the telco's see the value of offering
Us a local cash of TV shows and some web pages.
for us to look at and call that the Internet. Rather
then maintaining and upgrading the back bone that
is required for a real two way Internet experience.
We may want more TV. But lets not call TV an Internet.
Since your about three times more likely to die in a car crash in a given year,
while talking on your cell while driving.
This will reduce the time any cancer can start and develop when your dead.
Being dead will also reduce cell phone use.
If you think that using a Microsoft product is computing you are one of the poor children in America(ie. USA).
Understanding the power of "software tools" (Kernighan and Plauger) is like knowing how to catch fish as apposed to only knowing how to eat fish.
The tools and the open standards of the OLPC is a requirement for our future. Educating our poor should start here first, if we are to be the lead for the rest of the world.
One would think if the 'Military procurement has long been driven by cost and availability of
additional software' that Linux would be the better chose. Seems like there is some other factors.
Perhaps Ubuntu is to hard to use?
When someone sends me data in a closed format.
I ask for them to provide me with a copy of the software.
When I send them open office docs. I can give them a link
to software they can down load and use for free.
Problem solved. For all but the total losers.
Give a man a fish, and he eats for day. Teach a man to Fish, and he eats for the rest of his life.
Don't forget the rest of the world is hungry for computing as well.
Considering the lack of skills most of the worlds computer user have
thanks to the lack of knowledge of basic software tools.
Consider that this book is over 30 years old and 99% of computers users have not the understanding and training need to do basic computing tasks. Thanks to the mindless
approach of the MS Software.
One good way to slow down would be to put more eyes on the code.
Get a projector and stand up in front of 2 or more or your peers
and explain the code. Learn to take criticism and learn from the experience.
What should happen is the cable modem should step back the bandwidth as the demands of the line are used up. That is how shared networks should work.
P2P is just another name for Internet usage. If its not P2P its just TV. And I don't use the Internet for TV. You do not have a Web sight on your Internet service? Oh, I guess you are just watching TV.
Me I play Games online. As an example World Of WarCraft uses P2P to down load patches. Some People could have web servers on there Connection. Its is P2P that make the Internet the Modern version of the printing press. When Google is your pear, You discover that all of the Internet is actually P2P. P2P is still client / server as is all of the Internet. It just that some of use do not have anything to post that others want, and your complaining about the rest of us.
The reviewer need to be reminded that a Green PC is not only its power consumption,
But the time to dumpster is important as well. A computer that is good for 6 years
is twice as green as the normal PC that is only good for 3 years.
As for Installing a new OS, OR distro., You are now entering the realm of
the hardware/software expert. Be aware of that the computer you are buying
is designed to do and stick to that. Or expect to start solving hardware and
software problems.
The article misses two main problems with WiFi deployment.
1) the FCC rules have designed the WiFi bands for in home use.
To deploy WiFi you need larger power transmitters.
The current power is completely useless for metropolitan
communications. Let alone rural areas where it is needed
the most.
You also need to remove the rules that give telco's
to the right to clam interference and deploy demand
Cease and desist orders with even requiring valid evidence.
Why would some one deploy a system just to have the
local telco discover a revenue loss and shut you down.
WiFi makes no sense in this environment,
2) WiFi deployment should be a simple matter of us
installing root top boxes. There ant no such thing as a free lunch.
Local communications should be payed for by you and me.
As for connections to the Internet, its a horse and cart thing.
You need local communications before the ISP's can compete.
So with out Local communications you only have monopoly.
One or two cable/phone ISP's that are providing the Local
communications. When Local communications are provided
by you and me hundreds of ISP'a can compete.
Why should MS change for the EU.
Its the EU's fault that its stuck on MS.
When there are alternatives.
Perhaps the EU should look at the
"The One Laptop Per Child Project".
At least this next generation will not
be stuck paying the MS tax.
Thats super slow for most Broadband.
Just goes to show Broadband is not what
the sales man said it was.
I remember the first Cable ad's
showing 500.MByte down load speeds.
I knew then it was a joke.
Perhaps when You are the only subscriber.
but cable is only one wire.
So now we have seen how the Cable Co.
plans to keep the cost low and maintain a high revenue.
I let this age some so I would not just flame....
The reply to my posting was simplly promotion of
FUD (Fear, uncertainty and doubt).
Lets make it clear that what I called the Google's Internet
is actually the Internet. and will be better the anything any
of the monopolies have supplied.
What makes you think "Google's Internet" is going to be any less ghetto-ized than the Big Evil (TM) Telcos'?
Many good thing came out of the Ghetto's,
but nothing good is going to come out of the
Telcos but expensive long distance bills and
broadcast TV cashed at local sights. All the rest
will be blocked, or the bandwidth will be restricted
so as not to require the Internet backbone growth
that will be needed.
You can buy a wireless router right now and put in on your roof and give all your neighbors free Wifi. Realistically, there is little chance of your ISP finding out, if it happens that it's a violation of your TOS.
I have a http://www.fon.com/ router on the roof...
what joke the signal does not get off my yard let alone to the next house....
back in May 95. And yes the FON its is the same transmiter
used by Cisco's 803.11b/g hardware. It's power is limited by the FCC.
So that it can not compete with the Telco's. See when the FCC failed the people
back in May 1995. Read about the NII Band (National Information Infrastructure)
http://www.tapr.org/ss_psr60ss.html
Now that you have read that you will realize how routers on the roof will work.
And why the telco's promote FUD so the public will not see
the end of the telco as we now know it.
But Google is a for profit company, so the minute you start getting checks, free access, or some other kind of compensation the "authorities" from the IRS on down to your local dogcatcher will be all over you like a cheap suit. More than likely, at least in the US, it's not worth the trouble.
I all ready have free internet access, I just have to drive to the local bread store
to get it! The telco's can't seem to lay down the wires to make things work.
But there are many, hundreds, of houses with in a 10k to 15k radius. So a roof top
network would solve the problem. As referenced above.
What makes you think the Internet is a pipe out of which money
should flow in to your pocket. Its not.
More over I am not trying to be an ISP.
I am, like most people, willing to share the
burden to promote open ISP competition.
The Internet is a communications tool.
And its true the backbone requires some work.
But the work will be best done by ISP's that
are free to bypass the monopoly of the telco's
that will be supplied by the general public
So we can, and will, simply bypass all this silly
fiber optics. Since we will not need fiber for the
for communications. And out TV needs can be
supplied by broadcast media and time shifting DVR's.
Bottom line the telco is dead, long live the open market.
Slashdot Mirror
I am betting its your friendly Phone Co. Monopoly Lobbing the House of Delegates, trying to make people pay them more cash.
A word to the wise: when you don't know anything about what you're talking about, it's time to stop talking.
I hear your pie hole flapping.
You just enjoy while the rest of the world passes you by.
Ya I had to look it up.
Oh, that's not the web.
Microsoft is not the web.
Why would I down load Silverlight to see some MS page.
Anyway, I am Betting it will not work on my KDE desktop.
M$ tends to expect you to run there OS...
So its not the interoperable thus is not the web.
MS get a life.
P2P does not make it illegal. Here are many legal uses of P2P.
One example is MMO's sharing patches. Just the fact that ISP's
do not like P2P, since it lets people actually use the Internet
as intended bothers the ISP's. Its much simpler to cache A TV show
and feed it over the local pipe them it is for everyone to get it from
there friends recorder.
"teenagers are generally more likely to change their behavior than older Internet users".
The Internet was P2P in the first place.
Older users know this. Servers talking to servers...
What you don't have a server?
The Death penitly might be a bit high.
The death penalty might be a bit high.
I agree, you get more hops. I would rather have the hops Many of us right now have 0 hops. as home right now. Or an old 56KB modem. I would rather have the hops, and I would also like more then 2 places to get access. The phone and cable is not all the ISP's we could have if we had a mesh Network. Its not like I am telling you you can't use your Phone or Cable network. But why not have a Mesh Network as well.
Roof Top boxes would work, if only the FCC had let Apple start the ball rolling in the 90's. Its no wounder we are so far behind so much of the world in connectivity.
Your dead on.
We have no need for the phone co.
The value if the Internet is that it is a two way street. Originally all Internet access nodes where servers.
/. But We should all
have our own servers.
The Internet is said to be the next big thing after the printing press. But If your not serving data your just a TV viewer. Watching what others have filtered. Yes we have
But now the telco's see the value of offering Us a local cash of TV shows and some web pages. for us to look at and call that the Internet. Rather then maintaining and upgrading the back bone that is required for a real two way Internet experience. We may want more TV. But lets not call TV an Internet.
Since your about three times more likely to die in a car crash in a given year, while talking on your cell while driving. This will reduce the time any cancer can start and develop when your dead. Being dead will also reduce cell phone use.
You can get 2 $40 coupons at this site
The parent is dead on.
If you think that using a Microsoft product is computing you are
one of the poor children in America(ie. USA).
Understanding the power of "software tools" (Kernighan and Plauger)
is like knowing how to catch fish as apposed to only knowing how to eat fish.
The tools and the open standards of the OLPC is a requirement for our future.
Educating our poor should start here first, if we are to be the lead for the rest of the world.
Oh... ok read the article....Ya :D
Yes ARL (Army Research Lab) has CAC (Common Access Cards) login for Linux working. And its all free open source. Now that a driven by cost factor.
One would think if the 'Military procurement has long been driven by cost and availability of additional software' that Linux would be the better chose. Seems like there is some other factors. Perhaps Ubuntu is to hard to use?
When someone sends me data in a closed format. I ask for them to provide me with a copy of the software. When I send them open office docs. I can give them a link to software they can down load and use for free. Problem solved. For all but the total losers.
Give a man a fish, and he eats for day. Teach a man to Fish, and he eats for the rest of his life.
Don't forget the rest of the world is hungry for computing as well. Considering the lack of skills most of the worlds computer user have thanks to the lack of knowledge of basic software tools. Consider that this book is over 30 years old and 99% of computers users have not the understanding and training need to do basic computing tasks. Thanks to the mindless approach of the MS Software.
One good way to slow down would be to put more eyes on the code. Get a projector and stand up in front of 2 or more or your peers and explain the code. Learn to take criticism and learn from the experience.
I just happen to have an L.E.M. on my desk top.
Go figure.
Office is just the typewriter of the 21st century. The closest thing it has to programming is a spreadsheet.
/bin/sh.
There are programing tools for MS. But nothing so simple as
You do not need to read 30,000 pages to write a shell script and learn what makes a computer not just a glorious word processor.
We can leave the fact that MS requires many times the horsepower to run as compared to Linux.
What should happen is the cable modem should step back the
bandwidth as the demands of the line are used up. That is
how shared networks should work.
P2P is just another name for Internet usage.
If its not P2P its just TV. And I don't use the Internet
for TV. You do not have a Web sight on your Internet
service? Oh, I guess you are just watching TV.
Me I play Games online. As an example World Of WarCraft
uses P2P to down load patches. Some People could have
web servers on there Connection. Its is P2P that make
the Internet the Modern version of the printing press. When Google
is your pear, You discover that all of the Internet is
actually P2P. P2P is still client / server as is all
of the Internet. It just that some of use do not have
anything to post that others want, and your complaining
about the rest of us.
As for Installing a new OS, OR distro., You are now entering the realm of the hardware/software expert. Be aware of that the computer you are buying is designed to do and stick to that. Or expect to start solving hardware and software problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_flux
1) the FCC rules have designed the WiFi bands for in home use.
To deploy WiFi you need larger power transmitters. The current power is completely useless for metropolitan communications. Let alone rural areas where it is needed the most.
You also need to remove the rules that give telco's to the right to clam interference and deploy demand Cease and desist orders with even requiring valid evidence. Why would some one deploy a system just to have the local telco discover a revenue loss and shut you down. WiFi makes no sense in this environment,
2) WiFi deployment should be a simple matter of us installing root top boxes. There ant no such thing as a free lunch. Local communications should be payed for by you and me. As for connections to the Internet, its a horse and cart thing. You need local communications before the ISP's can compete. So with out Local communications you only have monopoly. One or two cable/phone ISP's that are providing the Local communications. When Local communications are provided by you and me hundreds of ISP'a can compete.
Why should MS change for the EU. Its the EU's fault that its stuck on MS. When there are alternatives. Perhaps the EU should look at the "The One Laptop Per Child Project". At least this next generation will not be stuck paying the MS tax.
Thats super slow for most Broadband. Just goes to show Broadband is not what the sales man said it was. I remember the first Cable ad's showing 500.MByte down load speeds.
I knew then it was a joke. Perhaps when You are the only subscriber. but cable is only one wire. So now we have seen how the Cable Co. plans to keep the cost low and maintain a high revenue.
Lets make it clear that what I called the Google's Internet is actually the Internet. and will be better the anything any of the monopolies have supplied.
Many good thing came out of the Ghetto's, but nothing good is going to come out of the Telcos but expensive long distance bills and broadcast TV cashed at local sights. All the rest will be blocked, or the bandwidth will be restricted so as not to require the Internet backbone growth that will be needed.
I have a http://www.fon.com/ router on the roof... what joke the signal does not get off my yard let alone to the next house.... back in May 95. And yes the FON its is the same transmiter used by Cisco's 803.11b/g hardware. It's power is limited by the FCC. So that it can not compete with the Telco's. See when the FCC failed the people back in May 1995. Read about the NII Band (National Information Infrastructure)
http://www.tapr.org/ss_psr60ss.html
Now that you have read that you will realize how routers on the roof will work. And why the telco's promote FUD so the public will not see the end of the telco as we now know it.
I all ready have free internet access, I just have to drive to the local bread store to get it! The telco's can't seem to lay down the wires to make things work. But there are many, hundreds, of houses with in a 10k to 15k radius. So a roof top network would solve the problem. As referenced above.
What makes you think the Internet is a pipe out of which money should flow in to your pocket. Its not. More over I am not trying to be an ISP. I am, like most people, willing to share the burden to promote open ISP competition.
The Internet is a communications tool. And its true the backbone requires some work. But the work will be best done by ISP's that are free to bypass the monopoly of the telco's that will be supplied by the general public
So we can, and will, simply bypass all this silly fiber optics. Since we will not need fiber for the for communications. And out TV needs can be supplied by broadcast media and time shifting DVR's.
Bottom line the telco is dead, long live the open market.