George Church has a tendency to make slightly wild claims that sound reasonable in an effort to get media attention. He's likely saying "It'll be half elephant though" so he doesn't get written off as completely nuts. Prior to this, he held a secret science conference basically to say "We're going to be making whole genomes from scratch."
Seems like the Elon Musk approach: he dangles something in front of the media that is both incredible sounding yet realistic at the same time. And he's done a lot of impressive stuff sure. And there's good reason to get people excited about science for a minute rather than just focusing on the daily political fight. But it's furstrating too, sometimes I wish they'd shut up and just do it.
Like anyone who lets themselves be influenced by commercials or product placement is a complete idiot?
Shit affects you whether you realize it or not because all people, "idiots" or not, are irrational. You see a friend post "TRUMP IS ENDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND KILLING KIDS!" and you think "That's stupid," but you subconciously have a slightly more paranoid opinion of Trump.
And obviously the reverse is true. At least I hope. Otherwise, my father and mother in law went from sane Navy veterans to voting for a draft dodging idiot with questionable ties to Russia due to brain damage. See there! I'm falling victim to it too! And it'll take a few dozen posts on facebook a day telling me I'm an idiot before I'll accept that maybe I am an idiot...
Not sure there's any CRISPR products for sale yet because research doesn't move as fast as the legal system does, but it's definitely not patent trolling. Almost every molecular biology lab is starting to use crispr in some capacity, So there should be applications coming out eventually.
Great. Last I checked though, there were still no notifications on either. So if you wanted to have them alert you of an appointment or some other event, you had to ask them if it was time yet, they couldn't just talk at you. That seems like a bigger feature. I want a speaker that will tell my inconsiderate co-workers that someone else has signed up for some equipment they might be using in, say, ten minutes. If they can't check the calendar, they're not going to ask alexa if someone else is signed up. But a "Ding: get off the fucking machine within 5 minutes" might work.
Science doesn't work as an all or nothing process. Someone comes up with a vision that's big picture without focusing on the details, gradually other people make it more and more fleshed out, and most of the time it goes nowhere, occasionally it turns into something useful.
When pennicillin was first discovered, no one knew how it was going to scale up from clearing out really really small circles in a dish to enough to cure a person. It took 14 years to get to treating people, and that rapid time scale was, IIRC, only because we had world wars to fight and needed it like now.
But... "those commie bastards: DID try to infiltrate every level of the government. Just as we were trying to do to them. They successfully stole enough secrets about the manhattan project to get the bomb themselves far faster than we did. This lead of course to a potentiall civilization-ending situation that hasn't been completely resolved.
Of course the paranoia got absurd. Worrying about commies infiltrating (gasp) HOLLYWOOD to BRAINWASH OUR CHILDREN INTO BECOMING COMMIES THROUGH MOVIES was idiotic on the level of worrying the gays were trying to turn all our children gay. And yes, there's no evidence russian hackers influenced the election to an appreciable degree. I think that's wildly optimistic: America wasn't tricked by evil russian hackers, we really are just so stupid that we left the electoral college system in place and millions of voters really were that stupid that they thought HRC was the corrupt one.
Still, it's an even dumber false dichotomy to conclude "We're safe from the russians forever." The russian connections are damaging the integrity of the presidency and faith in democracy. The russian hacker conspiracy theories are a lot more fucking realistic than the conspiracy theories about Obama being a kenyan muslim. The obama conspriacy theories generated anger that helped lead to a raft of congressmen who were put there just to shit all over anything Obama or liberal related. The same thing can happen to the liberal majority of the country.
In a few years if liberals elect a wildly unqualified and eratic president, say Kanye West, and actually DO declare a real war on coal, religion, and guns, and conservatives protest this is unfair, and liberal congresmen sneer back "Why don't you hve your russian hacker friends do something about it," those of us on the left might take some joy out of seeing the situation reversed, but it's still going to be damaging.
So yes, this shit does matter even if you think you were right before.
Well it's cause of Obama's evil market regulations and war on fossil fuels. Now that Trump is in office, he'll correct that by putting tons of regulations on electric. Don't worry, he'll balance it out by removing two regulations from the fossil fuel industry for every one he puts on clean energy.
Sarcasm aside, I'm starting to be glad that Peter Thiel is close to Trump. Theil is friends with Musk, who of course is leading on electric cars. Seems unlikely that Trump will kill electric cars with that influence. Crony capitalism is better than the worst case scenario I suppose. Which is the redneck coalition simply destroying everything mainstream America has an interest in out of pure spite.
Edit: I mean the underlying tech vs a polished product ready to be relased. Their self-driving cars are at least functional to the point where it seems like (to me a non-engineer) they could hand it off to car companies. Sorry for not being clear.
I'm not familiar with google's approach. Were they actually going to develop a product here to sell or were they simply building the tech they'd patent and license to developers? Because the second sounds like what they were doing with android, and if that IS the plan, then they likely have the tech and IP. Mission accomplished at the cost they intended (potentially)?
If they were intending to keep these guys around then yeah, oops, but that seems like something they'd be able to see coming if they're as smart as google seems to be.
So the engineers met the goals that earned the money. Google presumably didn't randomly set milestones, so the things they wanted they got. Headline makes it sound like there was an "oops," but I'm not seeing evidence of it.
Also, with the amount of money being thrown around at anything involving startup+AI+"silicon valley," I'm surprised anyone still works at google. If Google hadn't paid them an absurd amount of the even more absurd money they have on hand, would they have ever gotten anyone competent to work on it?
But I suspect that most people are able to change jobs without having to move, might be an increased commute, but not driving 3 hours through corn fields to get a new job.
That's looking at it logically. But advertising works because people are not logical. You remember the drug and the happy people, you forget the side effects mention.
And, I mean, if you don't suffer from the condition, of course you're not going to be susceptible to the ads.
Look, if the ads didn't really work, why the hell would big pharma be running superbowl ads? They hate money?
How many "tech" companies, startup or otherwise, in the bay area are "producing" anything? And where do you draw the line anyway?
I hear how instagram is this amazing success story, but it's fucking picture sharing. Facebook, Twitter? They're good ways to kill a few minutes and I understand they've made a lot of money for a few people. And sure, not everything needs to be getting flying cars and curing cancer.
Google might be making self-driving cars that could stop a lot of road deaths. Tesla is making cars that I hear are better and also Musk is launching rockets. Those seem like producing stuff. But I can't think of many more examples of unambigously "producing" stuff.
Just seems weird to draw the line at startups. I see a lot of companies in the bay area and everywhere else that could fall off the face of the earth and nothing of value would be lost.
"Your doctor went to school and trained for an absurdly long time and will know a lot better than you what meds you need, but fuck him! This is America! You want alexetrolium damnit! Look at how happy these people walking in slow motion are! That could be you! Tell Dr. Asshole you want alexetrolium now!"
And then we wonder why we pay so much for healthcare...
The summary points out we don't know who is communicating with who using this. So the system might be working as intended.
Also probably one of those "It's not illegal when the president does it," type things, especially when his party is in power, is spineless, and his voters really wouldn't mind if he murdered someone on national TV.
The sales guy sounded like he was about 21 years old, didn't know anything, and was a total Bro.
For selling something as non-technical as HR services, isn't that kind of to be expected? Would kind of be silly to have a CPA or a PhD in economics calling small startups. On top of that, I'm guessing approximately every client they have is fellow 21 year oldish bros who don't really know anything, leading their own startup tech companies in silicon valley.
The real question is why haven't all of us quit our jobs, gone to silicon valley, and launched startups that do something people have been doing for decades, but involving a mobile app with lots and lots of VC money.
Here's a startup idea: a service that lets you hire 21 year old bros in silicon valley to pretend to be leading a company that you're already working in, call it a startup, and helps him find money from fellow bros in the valley.
The real pros though make sure one or two other people do it even worse, so when those idividuals are burned at the stake* everyone goes back to thinking everything is just fine. Call it the "Martin Shrekelli" effect.
(* and by "burned at the stake" I of course mean there are a lot of angry social media posts for a week or two before they go back to consequence-free living with the millions they still made.)
Is that because they admit they're unreliable or because that would be circular and inherently flawed?
Also, I think people, especially people who I imagine populate wiki these days, forget that relative accuracy is important. There are zero information sources of any decent length which can be said to be absolutely true. Wiki was shown at one point to be as accurate as the alternative. It's all good to be skeptical of wiki, but let's not pretend God Himself edits Britannica print version.
You did say "Only in your crappy legal system that puts complete weight on lawsuits." I'm not sure how else to take that, but I'm glad we're on the same page that this is not a problem unique to America. However, it does present a problem to your insistence that we don't need to solve these things in the courts: what alternatives are you proposing? Because I don't know of examples of countries that whip companies for bad behavior outside the courts, at least countries where capitalism is actually practiced.
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1. America is far from the only legal system where corporations trample over everything
2. I'm hopeful things will improve once the greedy boomer generation starts dying off, but right now, voters can't even agree that we should have laws against companies dumping lead in the water we drink. "JOBS! JOBS! KILLING JOBS! THE LOONY EPA IS KILLING ALL THOSE JOBS!!!"
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George Church has a tendency to make slightly wild claims that sound reasonable in an effort to get media attention. He's likely saying "It'll be half elephant though" so he doesn't get written off as completely nuts. Prior to this, he held a secret science conference basically to say "We're going to be making whole genomes from scratch."
Seems like the Elon Musk approach: he dangles something in front of the media that is both incredible sounding yet realistic at the same time. And he's done a lot of impressive stuff sure. And there's good reason to get people excited about science for a minute rather than just focusing on the daily political fight. But it's furstrating too, sometimes I wish they'd shut up and just do it.
Like anyone who lets themselves be influenced by commercials or product placement is a complete idiot?
Shit affects you whether you realize it or not because all people, "idiots" or not, are irrational. You see a friend post "TRUMP IS ENDING THE FIRST AMENDMENT AND KILLING KIDS!" and you think "That's stupid," but you subconciously have a slightly more paranoid opinion of Trump.
And obviously the reverse is true. At least I hope. Otherwise, my father and mother in law went from sane Navy veterans to voting for a draft dodging idiot with questionable ties to Russia due to brain damage. See there! I'm falling victim to it too! And it'll take a few dozen posts on facebook a day telling me I'm an idiot before I'll accept that maybe I am an idiot...
There are about a dozen companies using licenses from one or the other to develop products. Including Editas which was oddly founded by Doudna of UC Berkley AND Zhang of the Broad institute
Not sure there's any CRISPR products for sale yet because research doesn't move as fast as the legal system does, but it's definitely not patent trolling. Almost every molecular biology lab is starting to use crispr in some capacity, So there should be applications coming out eventually.
There are supposedly some edited dogs in china I guess?
Great. Last I checked though, there were still no notifications on either. So if you wanted to have them alert you of an appointment or some other event, you had to ask them if it was time yet, they couldn't just talk at you. That seems like a bigger feature. I want a speaker that will tell my inconsiderate co-workers that someone else has signed up for some equipment they might be using in, say, ten minutes. If they can't check the calendar, they're not going to ask alexa if someone else is signed up. But a "Ding: get off the fucking machine within 5 minutes" might work.
Science doesn't work as an all or nothing process. Someone comes up with a vision that's big picture without focusing on the details, gradually other people make it more and more fleshed out, and most of the time it goes nowhere, occasionally it turns into something useful.
When pennicillin was first discovered, no one knew how it was going to scale up from clearing out really really small circles in a dish to enough to cure a person. It took 14 years to get to treating people, and that rapid time scale was, IIRC, only because we had world wars to fight and needed it like now.
But... "those commie bastards: DID try to infiltrate every level of the government. Just as we were trying to do to them. They successfully stole enough secrets about the manhattan project to get the bomb themselves far faster than we did. This lead of course to a potentiall civilization-ending situation that hasn't been completely resolved.
Of course the paranoia got absurd. Worrying about commies infiltrating (gasp) HOLLYWOOD to BRAINWASH OUR CHILDREN INTO BECOMING COMMIES THROUGH MOVIES was idiotic on the level of worrying the gays were trying to turn all our children gay. And yes, there's no evidence russian hackers influenced the election to an appreciable degree. I think that's wildly optimistic: America wasn't tricked by evil russian hackers, we really are just so stupid that we left the electoral college system in place and millions of voters really were that stupid that they thought HRC was the corrupt one.
Still, it's an even dumber false dichotomy to conclude "We're safe from the russians forever." The russian connections are damaging the integrity of the presidency and faith in democracy. The russian hacker conspiracy theories are a lot more fucking realistic than the conspiracy theories about Obama being a kenyan muslim. The obama conspriacy theories generated anger that helped lead to a raft of congressmen who were put there just to shit all over anything Obama or liberal related. The same thing can happen to the liberal majority of the country.
In a few years if liberals elect a wildly unqualified and eratic president, say Kanye West, and actually DO declare a real war on coal, religion, and guns, and conservatives protest this is unfair, and liberal congresmen sneer back "Why don't you hve your russian hacker friends do something about it," those of us on the left might take some joy out of seeing the situation reversed, but it's still going to be damaging.
So yes, this shit does matter even if you think you were right before.
Well it's cause of Obama's evil market regulations and war on fossil fuels. Now that Trump is in office, he'll correct that by putting tons of regulations on electric. Don't worry, he'll balance it out by removing two regulations from the fossil fuel industry for every one he puts on clean energy.
Sarcasm aside, I'm starting to be glad that Peter Thiel is close to Trump. Theil is friends with Musk, who of course is leading on electric cars. Seems unlikely that Trump will kill electric cars with that influence. Crony capitalism is better than the worst case scenario I suppose. Which is the redneck coalition simply destroying everything mainstream America has an interest in out of pure spite.
Edit: I mean the underlying tech vs a polished product ready to be relased. Their self-driving cars are at least functional to the point where it seems like (to me a non-engineer) they could hand it off to car companies. Sorry for not being clear.
I'm not familiar with google's approach. Were they actually going to develop a product here to sell or were they simply building the tech they'd patent and license to developers? Because the second sounds like what they were doing with android, and if that IS the plan, then they likely have the tech and IP. Mission accomplished at the cost they intended (potentially)?
If they were intending to keep these guys around then yeah, oops, but that seems like something they'd be able to see coming if they're as smart as google seems to be.
So the engineers met the goals that earned the money. Google presumably didn't randomly set milestones, so the things they wanted they got. Headline makes it sound like there was an "oops," but I'm not seeing evidence of it.
Also, with the amount of money being thrown around at anything involving startup+AI+"silicon valley," I'm surprised anyone still works at google. If Google hadn't paid them an absurd amount of the even more absurd money they have on hand, would they have ever gotten anyone competent to work on it?
That's only true of small towns that aren't near a decent sized urban center. Which probably doesn't describe a very significant part of the country. 80% of the population lives in "urban" areas. Evidently that doesn't distinguish between big cities, suburbs which are on paper their own townships, and small isolated towns. So I don't know how much of the population lives in real small towns like you describe.
But I suspect that most people are able to change jobs without having to move, might be an increased commute, but not driving 3 hours through corn fields to get a new job.
That's looking at it logically. But advertising works because people are not logical. You remember the drug and the happy people, you forget the side effects mention.
And, I mean, if you don't suffer from the condition, of course you're not going to be susceptible to the ads.
Look, if the ads didn't really work, why the hell would big pharma be running superbowl ads? They hate money?
How many "tech" companies, startup or otherwise, in the bay area are "producing" anything? And where do you draw the line anyway?
I hear how instagram is this amazing success story, but it's fucking picture sharing. Facebook, Twitter? They're good ways to kill a few minutes and I understand they've made a lot of money for a few people. And sure, not everything needs to be getting flying cars and curing cancer.
Google might be making self-driving cars that could stop a lot of road deaths. Tesla is making cars that I hear are better and also Musk is launching rockets. Those seem like producing stuff. But I can't think of many more examples of unambigously "producing" stuff.
Just seems weird to draw the line at startups. I see a lot of companies in the bay area and everywhere else that could fall off the face of the earth and nothing of value would be lost.
You could have also just said it was probably soap.
If you think that advertising thing is weird, the US and New Zealand are the only countries that allow drug companies to advertise to consumers.
"Your doctor went to school and trained for an absurdly long time and will know a lot better than you what meds you need, but fuck him! This is America! You want alexetrolium damnit! Look at how happy these people walking in slow motion are! That could be you! Tell Dr. Asshole you want alexetrolium now!"
And then we wonder why we pay so much for healthcare...
The summary points out we don't know who is communicating with who using this. So the system might be working as intended.
Also probably one of those "It's not illegal when the president does it," type things, especially when his party is in power, is spineless, and his voters really wouldn't mind if he murdered someone on national TV.
But... but... (head explodes)
Maybe 50 tb isn't that much compared to the monsoons of data the NSA is collecting from all of us with no idea what to do with it?
The sales guy sounded like he was about 21 years old, didn't know anything, and was a total Bro.
For selling something as non-technical as HR services, isn't that kind of to be expected? Would kind of be silly to have a CPA or a PhD in economics calling small startups. On top of that, I'm guessing approximately every client they have is fellow 21 year oldish bros who don't really know anything, leading their own startup tech companies in silicon valley.
The real question is why haven't all of us quit our jobs, gone to silicon valley, and launched startups that do something people have been doing for decades, but involving a mobile app with lots and lots of VC money.
Here's a startup idea: a service that lets you hire 21 year old bros in silicon valley to pretend to be leading a company that you're already working in, call it a startup, and helps him find money from fellow bros in the valley.
The real pros though make sure one or two other people do it even worse, so when those idividuals are burned at the stake* everyone goes back to thinking everything is just fine. Call it the "Martin Shrekelli" effect.
(* and by "burned at the stake" I of course mean there are a lot of angry social media posts for a week or two before they go back to consequence-free living with the millions they still made.)
Wouldn't the investors who first made the mistake have potentially doubled their money though?
There's probably a lesson there about the financial industry and possibly world as a whole there...
Is that because they admit they're unreliable or because that would be circular and inherently flawed?
Also, I think people, especially people who I imagine populate wiki these days, forget that relative accuracy is important. There are zero information sources of any decent length which can be said to be absolutely true. Wiki was shown at one point to be as accurate as the alternative. It's all good to be skeptical of wiki, but let's not pretend God Himself edits Britannica print version.
You did say "Only in your crappy legal system that puts complete weight on lawsuits." I'm not sure how else to take that, but I'm glad we're on the same page that this is not a problem unique to America. However, it does present a problem to your insistence that we don't need to solve these things in the courts: what alternatives are you proposing? Because I don't know of examples of countries that whip companies for bad behavior outside the courts, at least countries where capitalism is actually practiced.
"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too." - Mitch Hedberg
We will soon have a computer that can survive on Venus. We do currently, and we're not planning on destroying it and forgetting how we made it, thus we will soon also have a computer that can survive on venus.
Unfortunately, it still will not be sufficient to proofread submissions.
More seriously, the Russians had a viable competing technology 50 years ago. I believe the technology codename was something like "put it in something that is heat resistant to protect it from melting" only in russian.
1. America is far from the only legal system where corporations trample over everything
2. I'm hopeful things will improve once the greedy boomer generation starts dying off, but right now, voters can't even agree that we should have laws against companies dumping lead in the water we drink. "JOBS! JOBS! KILLING JOBS! THE LOONY EPA IS KILLING ALL THOSE JOBS!!!"