CSIRO offered to licence the technology, the companies involved agreed, then didn't pay, then sued to overturn the patent, then lost and in turn got sued for royalties.
From a post further up:
What's happened is that :
1. CSIRO File and get a patent for WiFi
2.CSIRO is willing to license under RAND. Everyone says fuck off.
3. It sues Buffalo Tech and wins (this essentially upholds their claims)
4.CSIRO is willing to license under RAND. Everyone says fuck off.
5. CSIRO gets sued by MS, Intel, Netgear etc to overturn the patent.
6. They fail.
7. CSIRO is willing to license under RAND. Everyone says fuck off.
8. CSIRO sues 7 colors of shit out of everyone and everyone in that case settles.
9. CSIRO sues the remainder of people not paying royalities.
It is noteworthy that the CSIRO has repeatedly said it was willing to license technology, and even sold to CISCO the startup the created for developing this (for 295 mil) which is why CISCO isn't in any suits (I think..).
The IEEE asked them for a exemption and the CSIRO explicitly said no.
The companies in question went ahead and implemented it, then sued to overturn the patent they knew they were infringing on.
Red hat is fine unless they are also manufacturing hardware. The patent covers a complete solution to the problem including software, mathematical formulas and hardware. I'm all for punishing people who patent the obvious, this wasn't the case.
The gollowing 5 states do not have a supreme court
Ashmore and Cartier Islands
Australian Antarctic Territory
Coral Sea Islands Territory
Heard Island and McDonald Islands
Jervis Bay Territory
Special award goes to
Cocos (Keeling) Islands, with a population of 628 people they have found a need for their own supreme court. This may just create the must supreme court justices per head of population anywhere in the world.
They went after buffalo technology originally (test case), the rest sued to have the patent rendered invalid. CSIRO counter-sued. The chipset manufacturers will toes the line at some point if they haven't already.
Furthermore, patented technology shouldn't be allowed to make it into "standards." "Standards" should be open and unencumbered. It's fundamentally anti-competitive to standardize on encumbered technology.
Why not? Why have your standard use a poor alternative.
No, this is: TGGCATCAACAATCTCAT!
(well almost, there is no amino acid with O as its one letter symbol so I had to use Qs. So actually it spells WHQQSH: Tryptophan, Histidine, Glutamine, Glutamine, Serine, Histidine. Also I coverted the uracils to to thymines so as not to confuse you nice non-bioscience folk.)
*gives up the right to use it for a time, in exchange for free access once the patent has expired - thats the other thing about patents, the invention is described in full meaning that when it does expire any man or his dog can replicate the technology without having to conduct the research.
Pubmed is free access?
I am a scientist (cancer research to be specific). One of the students in the lab I work in got a chemical splashed into her eye. She was taken to emergency and there she was treated by a doctor who raved about this fantastic website he had found that would tell him what effect the chemical would have on the eye. Turned out that website was pubmed. You can possibly only appreciate the hilarity of that if you are in bio science. But for you non-bioscience people: pubmed is the single most used literature database. And this doctor thought he was very special for discovering it.
I had a bantam rooster (Pekin for those who are interested - the ones that look like tea cosys) who used to bash up a rooster twice his size, because there was a third rooster around who was top rooster and would protect my bantam rooster - and also bash up the underdog too. When the top rooster got old and died, suddenly the underdog was top dog and now my rooster got his turn at being bashed up.
Institutional labs typically suffer from transient researchers - mostly students. Having worked (and studied) in both areas it seems to me that the problem in universities is that there is often noone specifically in charge of safety and the people spending the most time in the labs are the least experienced ones - talking about university labs. In industry, they make sure to assign a safety officer and there is always experienced people actually in the lab.
Pouring liquid nitrogen down a drain does sweet bugger all except possibly crack the pipes. Been there done that. Anyway quickest way to get rid of a small amount of it in a large enough room is to chuck it on the floor - evaporates harmlessly in seconds. More fun is an eppe (eppendorf 1.5 ml microcentrifuge tube) bomb - lump of dry ice in that, put the lid on and chuck it a suitable distance away. Makes a hell of a bang. Watch out for the lid which inevitably goes flying at speed.
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I live in a major ciy. I see fewer police, have had fewer dealings with the police while living here than when I lived in a regional centre.
That's the LEAST assumptions? I'd hate to see your version with the most.
CSIRO offered to licence the technology, the companies involved agreed, then didn't pay, then sued to overturn the patent, then lost and in turn got sued for royalties.
From a post further up: What's happened is that : 1. CSIRO File and get a patent for WiFi 2.CSIRO is willing to license under RAND. Everyone says fuck off. 3. It sues Buffalo Tech and wins (this essentially upholds their claims) 4.CSIRO is willing to license under RAND. Everyone says fuck off. 5. CSIRO gets sued by MS, Intel, Netgear etc to overturn the patent. 6. They fail. 7. CSIRO is willing to license under RAND. Everyone says fuck off. 8. CSIRO sues 7 colors of shit out of everyone and everyone in that case settles. 9. CSIRO sues the remainder of people not paying royalities. It is noteworthy that the CSIRO has repeatedly said it was willing to license technology, and even sold to CISCO the startup the created for developing this (for 295 mil) which is why CISCO isn't in any suits (I think..). The IEEE asked them for a exemption and the CSIRO explicitly said no. The companies in question went ahead and implemented it, then sued to overturn the patent they knew they were infringing on.
Red hat is fine unless they are also manufacturing hardware. The patent covers a complete solution to the problem including software, mathematical formulas and hardware. I'm all for punishing people who patent the obvious, this wasn't the case.
Yeah Cisco went the legal avenue, and I bet they are now feeling quite smug about it :)
You clearly don't have a clue how much research costs.
The gollowing 5 states do not have a supreme court
Ashmore and Cartier Islands Australian Antarctic Territory Coral Sea Islands Territory Heard Island and McDonald Islands Jervis Bay Territory
Special award goes to Cocos (Keeling) Islands, with a population of 628 people they have found a need for their own supreme court. This may just create the must supreme court justices per head of population anywhere in the world.
None of those are states.
That wasn't a student that murdered the girl at Yale, it was an animal technician.
Needs refreshing occasionally though.
or even people who like to drive with one arm hanging out the window.
I like to wave my arm around and pretend I'm soaring through the air like an empty beer can.
They went after buffalo technology originally (test case), the rest sued to have the patent rendered invalid. CSIRO counter-sued. The chipset manufacturers will toes the line at some point if they haven't already.
Furthermore, patented technology shouldn't be allowed to make it into "standards." "Standards" should be open and unencumbered. It's fundamentally anti-competitive to standardize on encumbered technology.
Why not? Why have your standard use a poor alternative.
AGCAGTACGCTGGTTG
That's the genetic encoding for "WHOOSH!"
No, this is: TGGCATCAACAATCTCAT! (well almost, there is no amino acid with O as its one letter symbol so I had to use Qs. So actually it spells WHQQSH: Tryptophan, Histidine, Glutamine, Glutamine, Serine, Histidine. Also I coverted the uracils to to thymines so as not to confuse you nice non-bioscience folk.)
It didn't happen to be present in several standards. It was made the standard after they invented it. Huge difference that.
Cool, so you don't mind if I leach off your country's social security then do you? I pay taxes here so I must deserve it.
Cervical cancer vaccine.
*gives up the right to use it for a time, in exchange for free access once the patent has expired - thats the other thing about patents, the invention is described in full meaning that when it does expire any man or his dog can replicate the technology without having to conduct the research.
Pubmed is free access? I am a scientist (cancer research to be specific). One of the students in the lab I work in got a chemical splashed into her eye. She was taken to emergency and there she was treated by a doctor who raved about this fantastic website he had found that would tell him what effect the chemical would have on the eye. Turned out that website was pubmed. You can possibly only appreciate the hilarity of that if you are in bio science. But for you non-bioscience people: pubmed is the single most used literature database. And this doctor thought he was very special for discovering it.
I had a bantam rooster (Pekin for those who are interested - the ones that look like tea cosys) who used to bash up a rooster twice his size, because there was a third rooster around who was top rooster and would protect my bantam rooster - and also bash up the underdog too. When the top rooster got old and died, suddenly the underdog was top dog and now my rooster got his turn at being bashed up.
Thats a new one!
Institutional labs typically suffer from transient researchers - mostly students. Having worked (and studied) in both areas it seems to me that the problem in universities is that there is often noone specifically in charge of safety and the people spending the most time in the labs are the least experienced ones - talking about university labs. In industry, they make sure to assign a safety officer and there is always experienced people actually in the lab.
Pouring liquid nitrogen down a drain does sweet bugger all except possibly crack the pipes. Been there done that. Anyway quickest way to get rid of a small amount of it in a large enough room is to chuck it on the floor - evaporates harmlessly in seconds. More fun is an eppe (eppendorf 1.5 ml microcentrifuge tube) bomb - lump of dry ice in that, put the lid on and chuck it a suitable distance away. Makes a hell of a bang. Watch out for the lid which inevitably goes flying at speed.
Well, religious people seem happy. A lot happier than WoW nuts. *shrug*
The fact that a believer is happier than a sceptic is no more to the point than that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. - George Bernard Shaw
Virology and population genetics for a start.