For what it's worth, when AT&T became Cingular, my rates went down, my minutes went up and my service got better. Of course, I was an AT&T customer, so the service couldn't have been any worse than it was, so anything would have been a step up.
Look like a bunch of immature kiddies? C'mon,/. is a bunch of immature kiddies!
Funny thing is, up until about a year ago, there were actually news items on/. that got referenced by aggregators like Google News. Then, I guess, somebody caught on.
You left out the part that goes, "We asked one of the alleged targets of the CIA assassination plot and he said, 'Nope, I don't remember being assassinated.'"
I've been to Russia and even there, the buses and subway system are more reliable.
When I was in Moscow, the bus system was nothing to be proud of, but the subway - now that was something special. You can thank Uncle Joe and Leonid for the subway system. Of course, you might not want to deal with their management styles personally...
Cisco isn't really the villain here. The problem is, of course, that the Chinese government controls the nation's Internet access. The "Great Firewall" isn't any special technology - it's just use of existing standards and equipment. It's hard to make Cisco complicit in repressing human rights if all they're doing is selling into that market the same stuff that they sell to everyone else. These aren't guns or bombs. Routers don't kill people.
An alternative, I guess, is to embargo the sale of network routing equipment to China. Deny the Chinese access to the Internet completely. Obviously that's not going to happen.
As long as the government controls access to the Internet, they'll allow access in whatever way they see fit. I say let Cisco sell into China. It helps to reduce our balance of trade and gets another non-Chinese company a toehold in the country.
The people in China who care already know that their Internet access is filtered. They are the ones who are working for change. Opening markets to western countries in China will do more to help their cause than cutting them off. I agree that, in the short term, the censorship issue is a problem, but in the long term, developing business relationships with the west will do more to overcome the political problems in China than isolation will.
In the interest of disclosure, I work for a company that manufactures and sells electronic devices into China and some of those devices end up in Cisco routers. They also end up in Legend computers, too. The end result of that is that money moves from China to the US. A side benefit is that we spend a lot of time communicating with our Chinese counterparts, who see some significant differences between their lifestyles and freedoms and ours. Don't think that goes unnoticed.
They are just branded and assembled from off the shelf parts and motherboards...
That's true in some cases, but not the entire story. HP doesn't just place a giant order to the factory for a bunch of motherboards. The company has specific performance and compatibility standards that must be met. If that can be done with off the shelf products, so much the better - it's less expensive because a new part does not need to be manufactured. But you'll find that in many instances, the parts in an HP computer (as well as a Compaq, IBM and even in a Dell) are not the same as the brand X part that you buy at the computer store. For better or for worse, those parts have been designed to meet HP's specifications.
What has really happened is that instead of designing their own parts, HP, et al, have shifted that design work to the component manufacturers. That makes sense to me because it's a significant cost reduction and puts the design work in the hands of the engineers who know the part the best.
I do it every day - I'm part of the design team that engineers memory modules for HP and others. They are industry standard DIMMs, but they are designed to the customer's specifications.
Sorry to offend your delicate senses. However, the conclusion that you drew in your original post was terribly flawed. If you can't see that from the overly dramatic response that I posted, then I guess it's hopeless.
Incidentally, whether or not I know how to speak to a lady has no bearing on the serious flaw (both logically and morally) in your original post. But it's a nice way of shifting attention away from my point.
The childish nature of SilentShriek is ridiculous. Looking through archives of up to nine years just to point out: "Hey, you said I'm a child rapist!" Who cares.
If SilentShriek was not a child rapist, he would not have to be so defensive.
Amen to that! I was happy to be rid of my StarTac. My current phone, a Motorola V551 is, perhaps, the best phone that I've ever owned. And it even takes good pictures.
That's the best sig I've seen in a long while. -- I hate republicans. If you're a republican, please put me on your foes list so that I can do the same.
While that could be true, I think that the most likely story is that because there are 435 representatives in Congress, there is a pretty high percentage of reactionary nuts in there. It's not just Republicans - there are just as many Democrats that ought to make everyone scratch their collective head.
I'm sure that it's all part of the fallout from the insane political polarization these days.
It's not like L. Wachowski is a big star, though - it's not really news. Well, maybe/. news, but you can't really consider/. much of a source of newsworthy items anymore.
Not to nit pick, but diesel locomotives use electric motors to drive the wheels. The diesel engine drives generators. The US M1 tank uses a gas turbine engine.
Both, though, do have great air conditioning systems!
...on the radiological level the contaminants are very significant (e.g. lots of short-lived (=hot) decay products)
No, that's wrong. There radiological danger from DU is virtually zero. Its radioactivity is at the level of background radiation or less. Its problem is that it is a heavy metal. It's poisonous when ingested.
When I was in the Navy we joked around a lot about handling the ammunition for the 30mm CIWS gun until somebody finally brought out a geiger counter. Background radiation.
The last that I heard, CIWS doesn't use DU anymore. I heard something about tungsten rounds.
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For what it's worth, when AT&T became Cingular, my rates went down, my minutes went up and my service got better. Of course, I was an AT&T customer, so the service couldn't have been any worse than it was, so anything would have been a step up.
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Look like a bunch of immature kiddies? C'mon, /. is a bunch of immature kiddies!
/. that got referenced by aggregators like Google News. Then, I guess, somebody caught on.
Funny thing is, up until about a year ago, there were actually news items on
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You left out the part that goes, "We asked one of the alleged targets of the CIA assassination plot and he said, 'Nope, I don't remember being assassinated.'"
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I look at the Apple mouse kind of like I look at pedals for a high-end mountain or road bike.
No, no! You're supposed to use car analogies!
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Why is there front page cover of a post that is basically trying to sell these items?
"You must be new here."
Who modded this tripe up?
mmmmmmm...menudo...
Colloquialism has no place in scientific reporting.
Agreed, but it was a press release.
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I used to work for city government here in SoCal, USA.
Which city in Southern California does the US government run?
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I've been to Russia and even there, the buses and subway system are more reliable.
When I was in Moscow, the bus system was nothing to be proud of, but the subway - now that was something special. You can thank Uncle Joe and Leonid for the subway system. Of course, you might not want to deal with their management styles personally...
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Do Chinese IT people have to work 80 hour weeks and constantly be on call, and end up getting laid off anyway, like in many American companies?
Beats me - like I said, I talk to my counterparts in China. Engineers.
However, those to whom I've spoken face to face give me the impression that they would be happy to trade places with pretty much anybody over here.
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The last paragraph of the article expresses the whole basis of the argument rather succinctly, I think.
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Cisco isn't really the villain here. The problem is, of course, that the Chinese government controls the nation's Internet access. The "Great Firewall" isn't any special technology - it's just use of existing standards and equipment. It's hard to make Cisco complicit in repressing human rights if all they're doing is selling into that market the same stuff that they sell to everyone else. These aren't guns or bombs. Routers don't kill people.
An alternative, I guess, is to embargo the sale of network routing equipment to China. Deny the Chinese access to the Internet completely. Obviously that's not going to happen.
As long as the government controls access to the Internet, they'll allow access in whatever way they see fit. I say let Cisco sell into China. It helps to reduce our balance of trade and gets another non-Chinese company a toehold in the country.
The people in China who care already know that their Internet access is filtered. They are the ones who are working for change. Opening markets to western countries in China will do more to help their cause than cutting them off. I agree that, in the short term, the censorship issue is a problem, but in the long term, developing business relationships with the west will do more to overcome the political problems in China than isolation will.
In the interest of disclosure, I work for a company that manufactures and sells electronic devices into China and some of those devices end up in Cisco routers. They also end up in Legend computers, too. The end result of that is that money moves from China to the US. A side benefit is that we spend a lot of time communicating with our Chinese counterparts, who see some significant differences between their lifestyles and freedoms and ours. Don't think that goes unnoticed.
-h-
They are just branded and assembled from off the shelf parts and motherboards...
That's true in some cases, but not the entire story. HP doesn't just place a giant order to the factory for a bunch of motherboards. The company has specific performance and compatibility standards that must be met. If that can be done with off the shelf products, so much the better - it's less expensive because a new part does not need to be manufactured. But you'll find that in many instances, the parts in an HP computer (as well as a Compaq, IBM and even in a Dell) are not the same as the brand X part that you buy at the computer store. For better or for worse, those parts have been designed to meet HP's specifications.
What has really happened is that instead of designing their own parts, HP, et al, have shifted that design work to the component manufacturers. That makes sense to me because it's a significant cost reduction and puts the design work in the hands of the engineers who know the part the best.
I do it every day - I'm part of the design team that engineers memory modules for HP and others. They are industry standard DIMMs, but they are designed to the customer's specifications.
-h-
Sorry to offend your delicate senses. However, the conclusion that you drew in your original post was terribly flawed. If you can't see that from the overly dramatic response that I posted, then I guess it's hopeless.
Incidentally, whether or not I know how to speak to a lady has no bearing on the serious flaw (both logically and morally) in your original post. But it's a nice way of shifting attention away from my point.
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The childish nature of SilentShriek is ridiculous. Looking through archives of up to nine years just to point out: "Hey, you said I'm a child rapist!" Who cares.
If SilentShriek was not a child rapist, he would not have to be so defensive.
Amen to that! I was happy to be rid of my StarTac. My current phone, a Motorola V551 is, perhaps, the best phone that I've ever owned. And it even takes good pictures.
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That's the best sig I've seen in a long while.
--
I hate republicans. If you're a republican, please put me on your foes list so that I can do the same.
That's the lamest sig I've seen in a long while.
That still doesn't change the fact that Microsoft copied Google's idea of making satellite imagery available for free on the internet.
If by "fact" you mean something that is not true, then I see your point.
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Hey, you wanted a link...
You're way too serious.
I cannot believe that Slashdot editors are really just that stupid or incompetent, so there must be some other reason.
Now that is the funniest damn thing I've heard all day!
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While that could be true, I think that the most likely story is that because there are 435 representatives in Congress, there is a pretty high percentage of reactionary nuts in there. It's not just Republicans - there are just as many Democrats that ought to make everyone scratch their collective head.
I'm sure that it's all part of the fallout from the insane political polarization these days.
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Ripped from the Chicago Sun-Times: "Matric Co-Creator to Have Sex Change Surgery".
/. news, but you can't really consider /. much of a source of newsworthy items anymore.
It's not like L. Wachowski is a big star, though - it's not really news. Well, maybe
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...Andy and Larry Wachowski...
Shouldn't that be Andy and Linda Wachowski?
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Not to nit pick, but diesel locomotives use electric motors to drive the wheels. The diesel engine drives generators. The US M1 tank uses a gas turbine engine.
Both, though, do have great air conditioning systems!
...on the radiological level the contaminants are very significant (e.g. lots of short-lived (=hot) decay products)
No, that's wrong. There radiological danger from DU is virtually zero. Its radioactivity is at the level of background radiation or less. Its problem is that it is a heavy metal. It's poisonous when ingested.
When I was in the Navy we joked around a lot about handling the ammunition for the 30mm CIWS gun until somebody finally brought out a geiger counter. Background radiation.
The last that I heard, CIWS doesn't use DU anymore. I heard something about tungsten rounds.
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