Thief: DS was a disappointment? That's news to me. Other than the mid-level loading, I've heard nothing but praise for it. And Deus Ex: IW was enjoyable as well, as long as you weren't comparing it to the original (which is inevitable, but it *is* a good game in it's own right, if not up to the lofty standard set by the first game)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with emulation - I first got on the retro-gaming kick a decade ago with Commodore 64 emulators, and still use them quite a bit when the urge hits.
But there's just something about slamming a *real* cartridge into a *real* Atari 2600, and playing with a *real* CX22 joystick that emulation can't match. Emulation in some cases can provide an experience which is very close - but obviously not the real deal.
The analog stick wasn't the problem - it was the fact that it wasn't self-centering. You had to physically center the joystick, which made some games very difficult to play.
There was also a big durability problem as well - the keys on the keypad would wear out very quickly... including the all-important "start" button. Take a quick look on ebay, and you'll find tons of working 5200 systems, but with dead/half-working joysticks. Unlike the 2600 joysticks, which were built like tanks.
"Also, on the refresh rate issue, YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. 8 and 16 bit game consoles run at 50Hz on PAL and 60Hz on NTSC. PERIOD. This is easily achievable on a PC monitor, LCD or CRT, with no problems"
Consoles, yes. But arcade emulation, for example, isn't nearly as defined... early arcade games had refresh rates all over the map. Same with handhelds... IIRC (and I may be completely off), the GBA's refresh rate is 42Hz - very few monitors or TVs can properly display that.
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I wouldn't say emulation has killed the vintage market - In the past couple of months I've spent several hundred dollars on old school Atari hardware and games, and I'm not alone - I've sold a couple of nice packages as well for upwards of $100.
The problem with buying old systems/games is that it's a crapshoot as to whether or not it works. I recently started buying old Atari 2600/5200 systems and games, and more often than not, they don't work like they should. Broken joysticks, broken paddles, consoles with messed up sound, stripped RF cables, etc. They can usually be fixed, but it takes a bit of time, effort, money, and knowhow. Something the casual retro gamer really doesn't have.
And I'd like to know where you can buy an Atari with 20 games for $20 - no really I would!:) All the similar setups I've bought are well over the $20. I recently sold a working Atari 5200 system with 11 cartridges for over $80 on Ebay.
In comparison, a $20 joystick is a pretty nice deal for those who just want to plug in and play for a few minutes.
How is a four-year cycle a "slap in the face", yet a four and a half or five year cycle perfectly acceptable? Honestly, does 6-12 months really make that much difference? What about Nintendo's "slap in the face" to those who purchased GBAs barely three years ago (and had to make things right a year later with the SP), and they're already obsoleting it with the DS?
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"(shame on id for yielding to MS and dropping win98 support!)"
Why? Win98 is ancient and deserves to be dropped - the sooner the better.
You have lame friends:) I'm not directing this at you, but a lot of people seem to have an unfounded dislike of DVD-ROM drives. They'll complain and moan about having to buy a $20 DVD-ROM drive (there are five for under $20 on pricegrabber right now), yet won't bat an eye at buying a $300 video card every year. Even DVD *burners* are dirt cheap now - if you've shelled out the cash for a system capable of playing Half Life 2 or Doom 3, there's no reason not to have a DVD drive as well.
"Microsoft are hurting like hell right now because they have to pay that cost on every Xbox they sell and Sony doesn't."
MS - "hurting like hell"? Dude, they're sitting on 50 billion+. They still haven't gone through the couple of billion that they originally allocated for the Xbox. They are not "hurting" by any stretch of the imagination.
You screw up, you have to pay the consequences... sometimes to unfair extremes. But no one ever promised life would be fair.
Personally, I avoid all these credit report problems by having *no* credit. I don't buy anything unless I have the cash in hand. The one exception being my house, which only required proof of employment and a year's worth of reports from three sources (apartment, insurance, utilities). It's funny - I don't even show up on a credit report search. But I like it that way.
Not I. Hell, my games hard drive (and all the savegame files) got wiped out last week (30+ GB). Didn't exactly make my day, but it's not something I was "in shock" about.
"For example, George Lucas says he won't release his Star Wars films on DVD until the new "Blue Lazer" technology has been introduced (allows a lot more data to be stored on one disc)."
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Oh well - have fun with Tux Racer.
Thief: DS was a disappointment? That's news to me. Other than the mid-level loading, I've heard nothing but praise for it. And Deus Ex: IW was enjoyable as well, as long as you weren't comparing it to the original (which is inevitable, but it *is* a good game in it's own right, if not up to the lofty standard set by the first game)
Geez, I wish this rumor would die. id themselves have said engine licensing only accounts for 20% of their revenue.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with emulation - I first got on the retro-gaming kick a decade ago with Commodore 64 emulators, and still use them quite a bit when the urge hits.
But there's just something about slamming a *real* cartridge into a *real* Atari 2600, and playing with a *real* CX22 joystick that emulation can't match. Emulation in some cases can provide an experience which is very close - but obviously not the real deal.
The analog stick wasn't the problem - it was the fact that it wasn't self-centering. You had to physically center the joystick, which made some games very difficult to play.
There was also a big durability problem as well - the keys on the keypad would wear out very quickly... including the all-important "start" button. Take a quick look on ebay, and you'll find tons of working 5200 systems, but with dead/half-working joysticks. Unlike the 2600 joysticks, which were built like tanks.
"Also, on the refresh rate issue, YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. 8 and 16 bit game consoles run at 50Hz on PAL and 60Hz on NTSC. PERIOD. This is easily achievable on a PC monitor, LCD or CRT, with no problems"
Consoles, yes. But arcade emulation, for example, isn't nearly as defined... early arcade games had refresh rates all over the map. Same with handhelds... IIRC (and I may be completely off), the GBA's refresh rate is 42Hz - very few monitors or TVs can properly display that.
Someone needs to tell this guy -
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I wouldn't say emulation has killed the vintage market - In the past couple of months I've spent several hundred dollars on old school Atari hardware and games, and I'm not alone - I've sold a couple of nice packages as well for upwards of $100.
Those type of stores usually don't carry the very old consoles...
It's amazing how many expert programmers we have here - all with extensive experience in building network co-op games, no doubt.
The problem with buying old systems/games is that it's a crapshoot as to whether or not it works. I recently started buying old Atari 2600/5200 systems and games, and more often than not, they don't work like they should. Broken joysticks, broken paddles, consoles with messed up sound, stripped RF cables, etc. They can usually be fixed, but it takes a bit of time, effort, money, and knowhow. Something the casual retro gamer really doesn't have.
:) All the similar setups I've bought are well over the $20. I recently sold a working Atari 5200 system with 11 cartridges for over $80 on Ebay.
And I'd like to know where you can buy an Atari with 20 games for $20 - no really I would!
In comparison, a $20 joystick is a pretty nice deal for those who just want to plug in and play for a few minutes.
That's the first thought I had... what a dumb oversight on Nintendo's part.
How is a four-year cycle a "slap in the face", yet a four and a half or five year cycle perfectly acceptable? Honestly, does 6-12 months really make that much difference? What about Nintendo's "slap in the face" to those who purchased GBAs barely three years ago (and had to make things right a year later with the SP), and they're already obsoleting it with the DS?
"(shame on id for yielding to MS and dropping win98 support!)"
Why? Win98 is ancient and deserves to be dropped - the sooner the better.
You have lame friends :) I'm not directing this at you, but a lot of people seem to have an unfounded dislike of DVD-ROM drives. They'll complain and moan about having to buy a $20 DVD-ROM drive (there are five for under $20 on pricegrabber right now), yet won't bat an eye at buying a $300 video card every year. Even DVD *burners* are dirt cheap now - if you've shelled out the cash for a system capable of playing Half Life 2 or Doom 3, there's no reason not to have a DVD drive as well.
A) as someone else mentioned, the PS2/Two only supports USB 1.1 - IOW, very slow.
B) The current PS2 doesn't support external drives, what makes you assume the PSTwo will?
Face it, Sony is cutting their losses. The HD is essentially dead.
"Microsoft are hurting like hell right now because they have to pay that cost on every Xbox they sell and Sony doesn't."
MS - "hurting like hell"? Dude, they're sitting on 50 billion+. They still haven't gone through the couple of billion that they originally allocated for the Xbox. They are not "hurting" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Personally, I avoid all these credit report problems by having *no* credit. I don't buy anything unless I have the cash in hand. The one exception being my house, which only required proof of employment and a year's worth of reports from three sources (apartment, insurance, utilities). It's funny - I don't even show up on a credit report search. But I like it that way.
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Not true. Lucas has made no statement like that.
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"God is holy and I am a sinner. Perhaps my worst sin is that I don't perceive this as a problem."
Got that right.
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