Me : Dude it's like Yahoo, it's never down.
ISP : Sa-lash dot?
Me : Dude slashdot.org!
ISP : www.
Me : No no no... listen 64.28.67.150
ISP : Uh... www
Me : Damnit I'm down can't you see I'm down?
ISP : We're like up and stuff. Is this a Macintosh?
Me : I am calling my lawyer! I'll sue you blind!
ISP : Uh I have to get my supervisor.
Me : -click- ---
Descent (and more importantly Descent 2) was a very important game but being that it was clearly derivitive it never got the respect it should have. ---
--Quake isn't a huge step from Doom. Yes, it is better than Doom in some technical ways but as a game it (and Doom for that matter) are not terribly different from Space Invaders or Asteroids. [It's you against a never ending supply of baddies coming at you.]
--FPS hadn't changed much from Wolfenstein. In terms of importance I'd rate Zork, Pirates!, Sim City and Civilization MAGNATUDUES higher than Quake. ---
I have never been addicted to the GPL.
I have never waited at the big dot for ghosts to eat
I have never put a quarter in a slot gor the GPL
I don't believe I have ever amassed 240 points for reading the GPL
As near as I can tell thery are nothing alike.
I swear. Natalie Portman and all. I just wasn't into it. I'll probably rent the DVD. Seems weird that this is news and I haven't even seen the damn thing. ---
The IT community has done this too themselves (I am guilty too.) We have worked ridiculously long hours and carried beepers b/c our expertise has done two things for us:
1 -- Paid us well. Very well. How many IT workers came from a crappy job at a supermarket? How many IT workers have another *really* saleable skill. Being the world's best camper in UT is not a useful skill. To get the necessary skills to be IT gurus many other skills have been forsaken. Like social interation. A skill that is being heavily sought now that the IT herd is being thinned via the "new economy"
2 -- Validated an otherwise reclusive existence. As the IT guru at your shop you've spent years alone networking computers, hacking games, writing webpages about Gillian Anderson, and the like while your bones have become brittle from lack of sun. Now all of a sudden you're not weird. You're a God. You know how to print excel spreadsheets in landscape. You are *loved*, *feared* and *needed*. You're very willing to answer every phone call, respond to every beep. You're a star.
So now you realize that this is wrong. That 75K is really all that much money, or whatever pushed you over the edge. A union now is too late. ---
Unions are not really a good thing
on
Dial U for Union
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· Score: 5
--As an ex-Teamster from NY I can tell you that although there were imagined benefits of being in a Union none were realized. Union representitives never came to the aid of any of the employees in my ex-company. The shop steward was railroaded out of his $17US an hour job and the Union's response was to immediately appoint another steward. This wasn't a guy who was likely to make very much more than $17US bucks an hour. He lost his livelyhood trying to protect his fellow workers. The company wasn't evil or mean, but simply trying to save money by asking people to go home early. Most people jumped at the opprotunity.
--For $20US a paycheck ($40 US a month + $250 to join) we got nothing. The employees recently voted the Union out of their building. The Union sued the company and the company agreed to allow the Union to stay for 2 more years.
--Parking lot vandalism has markedly gone up. On 06.04.01 a Union Representitive was arrested for smashing windshields in the parking lot.
--Certainly this individual is not the whole of the Unions of America but one of the bad apples. However if the employees of a company decide they do not want a union protecting them they should be allowed to be rid of them.
--Imagine if you were at an ISP that was unionized and you were unable to get rid of them. Be carful what you wish for. ---
All excellent points. People DON'T pay for the web.
point : People dont _have to_ pay for TV. Advertising pays for TV. (Yeah yeah, cable, satellites, yadda yadda.) All people need to do is actually buy stuff on the web. Of course consumer confidence is low. Websites go out business really fast. Even when they have cool names like eToys.
counterpoint : there's no _good way_ to pay for anything on the web. Let's say I find MegaNews useful. If MegaNews were a papr newspaper I could hand the magazine man 50 cents everyday and read the paper OR I could subscribe to the paper for home delivery.
But MegaNews is ONLY on the web. THe web has the following problems:
1 - Every time a kid in Finland gets a day off from school sites get:
+DDoSed
+Shut Down
+Hacked
+Cracked
+Defaced
2 - Internt connections can be slow.
3 - Heavily trafficked sites can be slow while everything else is fast (see also/.)
4 - My information will be sold
5 - My information will be stolen
6 - My ISP is out of business/broken.
7 - FP
Who want to pay for that? How do you pay for thar? Year sub scription? Monthly, Weekly? ---
Um. Verizon's broadband engineering staff isn't unionized, unless it just happened.
correct but the SPLICERS are union and they bring the line to your d-mark
Now back to you. Are you so nastily antiunion because you sit on a lot of corporate boards and own a lot of stock in companies that stand to lose cheap labor to union drives? Or are you (A) privileged enough to never have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck, or (B) a self-loathing workaholic who likes carrying a beeper 24/7 and never going on vacation?
I was a Teamster for 10 years. Unions are bullshit
I am finally solvent to the point where I don't live paycheck to paycheck. Union's had nothing to do with that.
I work pretty hard and as such I get paid pretty well. I go on vacation now and again.
As a Sys Admin in Manhattan I can assure I have really good first hand knowledge of how crappy Verizon is. As a person who has a lot of friends who have worked there since the AT&T days I can assure you if you go to the Telephone Bar (named for it clientel) on 10th and 2nd you'll find many Verizon workers drinking at 11 AM.
--I decided around Java 1.0 that I was going to learn to program with Java.
--I bought some books and began failing miserably almost immediately. In one of the books it said something like "If you know Visual Basic, you'll get this."
--Back to the book store I went got some VB5 books and did fairly well with them. Then I started reading about this wonderful thing called Perl. I still have Learn to program Java in 24 seconds and Mastering Java and both look like new.
--I would recommend Python or for the brave at heart Perl as a 1st language. But really Python. ---
Here on the East Coast Verizon is The Great Satan. Especially in Manhatan. It works like this:
"Well fellas we got us 30 DSL hook ups scheduled for taday an' looks like 25 of'em is Covad. Whatta we say to DSL that ain't Verizon?"
"Fuck 'em."
"And why do we say that?"
"Because we ain't got no stock in 'doz companies."
"Right. Now lis'sen, it's 9 AM I want'cha ta do the 5 Verizon jobs and then meet us at the bar on 10th and 2nd by 11. Hey we're fucking union what're they gonna do; fire us?"
Slashdot Mirror
If the harddrive is silent then the only sounds I'll hear are the fans and my weeping.
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If I was /. I'd ask someone to post a link in a post and that would ensure that any site I didn't like would get /.'ed
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With all that fire power X Emacs will open in under a day... right?
---
Me : Dude it's like Yahoo, it's never down.
ISP : Sa-lash dot?
Me : Dude slashdot.org!
ISP : www.
Me : No no no... listen 64.28.67.150
ISP : Uh... www
Me : Damnit I'm down can't you see I'm down?
ISP : We're like up and stuff. Is this a Macintosh?
Me : I am calling my lawyer! I'll sue you blind!
ISP : Uh I have to get my supervisor.
Me : -click-
---
I rememeber D2 with my first Voodoo card... I almost threw up the first timne I played it accelorated...
---
Descent (and more importantly Descent 2) was a very important game but being that it was clearly derivitive it never got the respect it should have.
---
--come'on.
--Quake isn't a huge step from Doom. Yes, it is better than Doom in some technical ways but as a game it (and Doom for that matter) are not terribly different from Space Invaders or Asteroids. [It's you against a never ending supply of baddies coming at you.]
--FPS hadn't changed much from Wolfenstein. In terms of importance I'd rate Zork, Pirates!, Sim City and Civilization MAGNATUDUES higher than Quake.
---
April Fool's Day aleady?
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I have no use for this device at all but I know I don't currently have one therefore I must need it.
It's like that time I bought a chainsaw...
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float?
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--Or does he have pages of odd letters and binary code for no apparent reason too?
---
The Sys Admin has a very weird idea about locking down the network
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You can't hear me but I am clapping right now.
---
I have never been addicted to the GPL.
I have never waited at the big dot for ghosts to eat
I have never put a quarter in a slot gor the GPL
I don't believe I have ever amassed 240 points for reading the GPL
As near as I can tell thery are nothing alike.
---
I swear. Natalie Portman and all. I just wasn't into it. I'll probably rent the DVD. Seems weird that this is news and I haven't even seen the damn thing.
---
The IT community has done this too themselves (I am guilty too.) We have worked ridiculously long hours and carried beepers b/c our expertise has done two things for us:
1 -- Paid us well. Very well. How many IT workers came from a crappy job at a supermarket? How many IT workers have another *really* saleable skill. Being the world's best camper in UT is not a useful skill. To get the necessary skills to be IT gurus many other skills have been forsaken. Like social interation. A skill that is being heavily sought now that the IT herd is being thinned via the "new economy"
2 -- Validated an otherwise reclusive existence. As the IT guru at your shop you've spent years alone networking computers, hacking games, writing webpages about Gillian Anderson, and the like while your bones have become brittle from lack of sun. Now all of a sudden you're not weird. You're a God. You know how to print excel spreadsheets in landscape. You are *loved*, *feared* and *needed*. You're very willing to answer every phone call, respond to every beep. You're a star.
So now you realize that this is wrong. That 75K is really all that much money, or whatever pushed you over the edge. A union now is too late.
---
--As an ex-Teamster from NY I can tell you that although there were imagined benefits of being in a Union none were realized. Union representitives never came to the aid of any of the employees in my ex-company. The shop steward was railroaded out of his $17US an hour job and the Union's response was to immediately appoint another steward. This wasn't a guy who was likely to make very much more than $17US bucks an hour. He lost his livelyhood trying to protect his fellow workers. The company wasn't evil or mean, but simply trying to save money by asking people to go home early. Most people jumped at the opprotunity.
--For $20US a paycheck ($40 US a month + $250 to join) we got nothing. The employees recently voted the Union out of their building. The Union sued the company and the company agreed to allow the Union to stay for 2 more years.
--Parking lot vandalism has markedly gone up. On 06.04.01 a Union Representitive was arrested for smashing windshields in the parking lot.
--Certainly this individual is not the whole of the Unions of America but one of the bad apples. However if the employees of a company decide they do not want a union protecting them they should be allowed to be rid of them.
--Imagine if you were at an ISP that was unionized and you were unable to get rid of them. Be carful what you wish for.
---
"bringing innovative technologies"
sounds like they're going to work for Microsoft
---
my wife did a lot of leg work on the web.
She would give the MLS numbers to the realtor who would get us into the houses.
I would say overall "the net" helped but in other ways it hindered us.
Choices become boggling and you are very easilt side tracked (Honey look at this; 87 acres, 2500 room, 2 billion dollars.)
---
All excellent points. People DON'T pay for the web.
/.)
point : People dont _have to_ pay for TV. Advertising pays for TV. (Yeah yeah, cable, satellites, yadda yadda.) All people need to do is actually buy stuff on the web. Of course consumer confidence is low. Websites go out business really fast. Even when they have cool names like eToys.
counterpoint : there's no _good way_ to pay for anything on the web. Let's say I find MegaNews useful. If MegaNews were a papr newspaper I could hand the magazine man 50 cents everyday and read the paper OR I could subscribe to the paper for home delivery.
But MegaNews is ONLY on the web. THe web has the following problems:
1 - Every time a kid in Finland gets a day off from school sites get:
+DDoSed
+Shut Down
+Hacked
+Cracked
+Defaced
2 - Internt connections can be slow.
3 - Heavily trafficked sites can be slow while everything else is fast (see also
4 - My information will be sold
5 - My information will be stolen
6 - My ISP is out of business/broken.
7 - FP
Who want to pay for that? How do you pay for thar? Year sub scription? Monthly, Weekly?
---
a long time ago.
/. lets you do the talking.
/. lives Suck doesn't.
Suck was cool b/c they said the stuff you were thinking in a way you might say it.
Humans like that. Hell we'll even click on links and purchase little tiny stickers for a dollar.
Subsequently
---
Um. Verizon's broadband engineering staff isn't unionized, unless it just happened.
correct but the SPLICERS are union and they bring the line to your d-mark
Now back to you. Are you so nastily antiunion because you sit on a lot of corporate boards and own a lot of stock in companies that stand to lose cheap labor to union drives? Or are you (A) privileged enough to never have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck, or (B) a self-loathing workaholic who likes carrying a beeper 24/7 and never going on vacation?
I was a Teamster for 10 years. Unions are bullshit
I am finally solvent to the point where I don't live paycheck to paycheck. Union's had nothing to do with that.
I work pretty hard and as such I get paid pretty well. I go on vacation now and again.
As a Sys Admin in Manhattan I can assure I have really good first hand knowledge of how crappy Verizon is. As a person who has a lot of friends who have worked there since the AT&T days I can assure you if you go to the Telephone Bar (named for it clientel) on 10th and 2nd you'll find many Verizon workers drinking at 11 AM.
---
--I decided around Java 1.0 that I was going to learn to program with Java.
--I bought some books and began failing miserably almost immediately. In one of the books it said something like "If you know Visual Basic, you'll get this."
--Back to the book store I went got some VB5 books and did fairly well with them. Then I started reading about this wonderful thing called Perl. I still have Learn to program Java in 24 seconds and Mastering Java and both look like new.
--I would recommend Python or for the brave at heart Perl as a 1st language. But really Python.
---
Here on the East Coast Verizon is The Great Satan. Especially in Manhatan. It works like this:
"Well fellas we got us 30 DSL hook ups scheduled for taday an' looks like 25 of'em is Covad. Whatta we say to DSL that ain't Verizon?"
"Fuck 'em."
"And why do we say that?"
"Because we ain't got no stock in 'doz companies."
"Right. Now lis'sen, it's 9 AM I want'cha ta do the 5 Verizon jobs and then meet us at the bar on 10th and 2nd by 11. Hey we're fucking union what're they gonna do; fire us?"
This really happens, every day.
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six line Perl script.
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