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Star Wars Episode I DVD - October 16, 2001

linderdm writes: "The official Star Wars web site has an article confirming reports about the release date of October 16th for the Phantom Menace DVD. It looks like it will be a double DVD set with 6 hours of additional material, plus 7 new deleted scenes added to the movie." Lucas should have an option to view it in Phantom Edit mode. If that's unrealistic, maybe releasing ep IV, V and VI would be feasible? Please?

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  1. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    THX has nothing to do with Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS.

    THX is a set of technical standards established by (duh) THX for your Hi-Fi equipment. It works just as well with DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1.

    Check it out

  2. Re:Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the J by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    Laser disc movies are almost as poor quality as vhs. Meesa think you've got the "new technology" placebo.

    Lay off the crack pipe, fella. Laserdisc is vastly superior to VHS. It's almost as good as DVD; DVD's advantages over Laserdisc is not really in terms of audio/video quality (DVD video is slightly superior, but the audio is slightly inferior, to Laserdisc, depending on the system used), but rather in terms of its small size, its use as a computer storage medium, and its ability to hold different versions or extra material which can be chosen by the viewer. DVD's advantages over Laserdisc are in terms of customer convenience. We will have to wait for High Definition DVD before we will see a medium that is vastly superior to Laserdisc, rather than marginally superior.

  3. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can't wait to download the Divx.DVDRip...

  4. Re:SIX HOURS?? by Nick · · Score: 1

    Bah. Most of it will be boring behind the scenes drivel. (Well, it'll be cool to watch, but I personally would consider it drivel after about an hour)

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  5. Re:Apple and StarWars by Nick · · Score: 1

    Well, save that annoying 60's-ish one I heard on the radio this morning..

    Hey! Gateway uses a Who song in one of their commercials! Only the greatest rock n' roll band to ever exist!

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  6. Re:View Options - do you have a DVD player? by Masem · · Score: 1

    There's also the Abyss, with the release version and the director's cut (various scenes relating to world tension that were cut throughout the film).

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  7. Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by Masem · · Score: 5
    If only the DVD would have the so-called Phantom Edit version; for those that haven't heard of this, it's basically a fan's cut of the film but otherwise unmodified that strips out the fluff, mostly JarJar and some pointless Anakin scenes. For example, the entire underwater scene from the JarJar's city to the other side of the planet is gone.

    As it was covered in the Chicago Tribune a few days ago, I remember the the critic gave it a 1/4 star less than the 3.5 stars that the untouched version had; the edit was much more refined and moved well, but lacked some of the magic that the original had. Rumor has it that Lucas has seen this, and while not allowing it to be distributed publicly, acknowledges that it's a good edit, but not as good as his original vision.

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    1. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by nosferatu-man · · Score: 1

      Magic? The omnipresent heavyhanded marketing "magic"? The softshoe blackface minstrel show "magic"? The Pepsi tie-in "magic"? The endless pedantic exposition "magic"?

      Lucas is a 100% talent-free hack, the movie was as diverting as reading the fine print on a Taco Bell placemat, and any editing applied to that turgid, craptacular "entertainment" would be greeted with hosannahs of welcome, although, in truth, having lost two damn hours of my summer to Lucas' "vision" (doubtless of the $1000 bills he lights his cigars with), I'm off the teenage hypertrophied wish-fulfillment fascist-allegory space-operas for good. Until, that is, Part II.

      Peace,
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    2. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by G-funk · · Score: 1

      Do you think you could travel ~6000 km/h in water? You'd vaporize the water around you due to the friction alone...

      With cavitating technology and a jet (read: starship) engine this would be fairly easily achieved methinks.


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    3. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by drudd · · Score: 2

      Certainly not... an orbiting craft would take on the order of an hour to travel half-way around a planet (ignoring time for landing).

      Do you think you could travel ~6000 km/h in water? You'd vaporize the water around you due to the friction alone...

      Vacuum has its advantages....

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    4. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by babbage · · Score: 2
      it's basically a fan's cut of the film

      Ahh, but you neglect to mention that that "fan" is rumored to be none other than Kevin Smith (though now when I look at that page, a month later, it says that he denies it. Still...).

      EditorsNet.com has an interesting new story today with some interesting links. It was found by Brian G. and certainly sounds interesting:
      A mysterious video cassette containing a re-edited version of George Lucas' "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace" has started circulating around Hollywood. Called "Star Wars Episode I.I: The Phantom Edit," the "special corrector's edition" challenges the vision of the original film. According to posts on an online Phantom Edit discussion forum, "The Phantom Edit" represents a better version of the story than the version that was released in May 1999, which has inspired strong negative feelings in many dyed-in-the-wool Star Wars fans -- including one dissatisfied fan who created a forum on the Internet called "Jar Jar Sucks So Hard I Can't Stand It!" The Razzies nominated "Phantom Menace" for a whopping seven "worst" awards, including worst picture of the year. (The film "won" for worst supporting actor for Ahmed Best, the voice of Jar-Jar Binks.)

      The posts on the online discussion board, which hail from the likes of "TrueJedi," "SW lover" and "wisejedi," range significantly in subject matter. Some posts are desperate pleas for ideas on how to get a copy of "The Phantom Edit." Some delineate the differences between the original and the unauthorized re-edit. And some muse on the possible identity of "The Phantom Edit's" mysterious auteur. Many suggest that the new cut is the handiwork of filmmaker Kevin Smith ("Clerks," "Dogma").

      Update wild_karrde chimes in:

      Don't know if you guys heard this yet or not, but newsaskew.com contacted Kevin Smith about "The Phantom Edit", and while he said he had nothing to do with it, he confirms that it DOES exist and he has seen it.

      The above being a quote of the article from TheForce.net.



    5. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by Paelon · · Score: 1
      For all those who are continuing the rumour that Kevin Smith cut TPE:

      Friday, May 18, 2001 Kevin's Non-Involvement In Star Wars: The Phantom Edit

      Just a quick word about that news that's appearing on TheForce.Net today (and has resulted in no less than 50 e-mails at least in the inbox today) regarding the Star Wars Episode 1.1: The Phantom Edit (story originally appeared on Editorsnet by author Erin Lauten. Apparently, a mysterious video cassette containing a re-edited version of George Lucas' "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace" has started circulating around Hollywood. Why is this relevant here, do you ask? Well, folks are theorizing that the tape itself may have been a project of Kevin Smith's.

      We contacted Kevin about this immediately, who assures us that while he's had nothing to do with the project, he HAS seen a copy and can confirm that is does exist. Interesting. So, who's got a copy they wanna pass along? Drop us a line! There ya have it, folks.

      Taken from newsaskew.com, about the most reliable news source about Kevin Smith.

    6. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by beddess · · Score: 1

      actually its been done for a little while. supposedly it did amazingly well in test screenings, and it'll be out on august 24th

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    7. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by Tiroth · · Score: 1

      It generally isn't a good tactical decision to land right on top of your enemy, especially when their formations are set and you are unloading piecemeal. Allowing for small advances in war machines, perhaps "halfway around the planet" was as close as they dared get.

    8. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by RedWizzard · · Score: 2

      Kevin Smith is in the process of finishing his own next movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. We would he have found the time to do this too?

    9. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by psiontist · · Score: 1

      Hear hear! The trip "through the planet core" would be the first thing to go! Not only does it contain the annoying JarJar, but it's a huge plot mistake in my book. Am I supposed to believe that the invasion force landed ALL THE WAY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET, and then used land-based vehicles to go the rest of the way? Not only that, but if I AM asked to believe this, then how did the invasion force get there BEFORE JarJar and the Jedi? Maybe my geometry's a little rusty, but I'm fairly certain it would take a hell of lot more time to go AROUND the planet than THROUGH it.

      Go Phantom Edit!

    10. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by geomcbay · · Score: 1

      Kevin Smith had nothing to do with it. That rumor has been proved false weeks ago. Please don't spread it further. For more information on The Phantom Edit, check out www.theforce.net or other such Star Wars fan sites.

    11. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by BIGJIMSLATE · · Score: 2

      There are TWO "Phantom Edit" movies floating around, so nobody should be calling it "THE Phantom Edit". The first one is still better than the second, but I still prefer Lucas'.

    12. Re:Please oh please let it have the Phantom Edit! by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      Please remember that Obi Wan and Qui Gon rode down to the planet with the invasion force. That means that where they were was where the invasion force set down. Irregardless of how fast the orbiting ships could move the force was already on the ground, and would be restricted to surface travel. The question the arises as to why the ships didn't drop them on the correct side of the planet.

  8. Re:Definatly a good thing.. by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 1

    I'll have to take a look at it, hadn't seen it on DVD. Another recent movie that came out was Dungeons and Dragons. Being an ex gamer, I was interested in the movie needless to say, but the scenes they cut actually ruined the movie. Once I saw them I can't for the life of me understand why in the heck they cut them, beyond one due to cost constraints..

    Hopefully some of these new scenes will be equally interesting..

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  9. Definatly a good thing.. by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 2

    This is GREAT! I always like to get the DVDs for movies, 'spec when they include cut footage. I often find that many movies have really good scenes that where cut from the actual movie due to time/space, etc..

    Anyone have any idea what scenes may be extended, or what we may have missed entirely?

    The commentary is also well worth it. It's funny to hear what the creators think about scenes, and getting those tasty little nuggets about why something is the way it is, often things you never would have thought of..

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    1. Re:Definatly a good thing.. by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there's twenty more minutes of Jar-Jar being a clumsy retard rastafarian alien. Oh yeah, and a song and dance number where Anakin and Jar-Jar sing the loveable number "Aren't We Awfully Cute?"

      ChodaBoy

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    2. Re:Definatly a good thing.. by anon757 · · Score: 1

      I often find that many movies have really good scenes that where cut from the actual movie due to time/space, etc..
      This is especially true with The Abyss. There's an option on the DVD to watch it with the original scenes put back in, and it's almost a completley different movie. The ending actually makes sense.

  10. Re:Deleted scenes by Thomas+Charron · · Score: 2

    I gotta say, I never saw any lightsaber rechargers onboard anything I ever saw.. 8-) Would be funny to see.

    'Han, do you mind if I use your lighter adapter, gotta plug something in..'

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  11. Re:THX is not a sound format. by singularity · · Score: 1

    I believe a power rating was specified for THX at either 100 or 110 watts across the front three channels. There are a bunch of other requirements, as well, such as full-range speakers up front (no sub and sattelite configuration) http://www.thx.com/consumer_products/home_faq.html is a good place to start...

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  12. bargain bin by florin · · Score: 1

    and I still wouldn't get it. The thing about DVDs is that you go to the effort of the purchase only for those movies that you want to see more than one time. It's simple Mr. Lucas - we want the real Star Wars movies on DVD, you know, that stuff about Chewie and the Death Star.

  13. Re:I'm surprised... by sphealey · · Score: 2

    You forgot the step where he releases a "Special Edition" with a few "minor improvements" that have the effect of changing the entire story line and fundamental definition of one of the main characters (Han Solo vs. the bounty hunter in SW:AHN).

    sPh

  14. Re:I'm surprised... by sphealey · · Score: 5

    In the original edition, when the bounty hunter confronts Han Solo in the bar, Solo shoots him under the table in cold blood. Establishing that for all his rough and loveable exterior, he is a cold-blooded mercenary at heart. This colors his entire relationship with Leia and his decision to return and helt the Alliance.

    In the Special Edition, Lucas adds a few seconds where _the bounty hunter fires the first shot_, turning Solo from a ruthless mercenary to just another guy defending himself in a tough world.

    That's a bit of a change, don't you think?

    sPh

  15. Re: Top reason for a PC instead . . . not by stripes · · Score: 2
    This is probably the biggest reason why Classic Mac OS crashes less than Win9x.

    I used MacOS9 for about two weeks, it crashed far far more often then Win95 and Win98 did for me. Then I got the OSX public beta, and only had two crashes in as many months. Then the OSX release, which I think has had two crashes in 3(?) months, but has refused to unsuspend maybe three times (which may not be a crash, but is about as bad -- I can ssh in, but I don't really know what to kill to fix it, I can do a clean reboot though).

    One of the OSX PB crashes was from me doing a 'umount -f' which shouldn't cause a panic. Doesn't cause a panic in any of the BSDs I've used. One of the OSX full releases was me retesting that.

    In my (short!) experience OS 9 is less stable then Win9x. Mac OSX is far more stable, but still not as stable as a "real" Unix :-)

  16. SIX HOURS?? by pergamon · · Score: 4

    That's a lot of additional material.

    It seems *someone* thinks pretty highly of their little movie.

  17. Re:View Options by GeorgeH · · Score: 2

    X-men lets you watch it with cut scenes spliced in... it's not seamless (there's some seek time) but it's pretty cool none-the-less.
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  18. [OT] may the DVD be with you by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
    I hope this announcement is more accurate than the Back To The Future DVD announcement.

    I'd think twice before getting too excited about a DVD release announcement.

    Now that Star Wars will be released, any word on the LOTR DVD boxset yet? ;-)

    1. Re:[OT] may the DVD be with you by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
      It is, it's from the official Star Wars website, not a fan-site or rumor site.

      The Back To The Future announcements were no(t all) rumours, there have been several official announcements from Amblin and Universal.

      But I haven't heard any story so ridiculous as the BTTF one so I guess it is very likely these discs will indeed be out this fall.

    2. Re:[OT] may the DVD be with you by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 1

      It is, it's from the official Star Wars website, not a fan-site or rumor site.

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    3. Re:[OT] may the DVD be with you by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      From your BTTF link

      "The inevitable has happened -- bootlegged DVDs have emerged from Hong Kong, land of the media pirates. Illegal copies of all three films have been pilfered and pressed onto discs, and are now being sold on all of the major auction sites (eBay/Yahoo/Amazon).

      Reportedly, these unofficial discs are nothing more than a straight dub of the long-ago released LaserDiscs with Chinese subtitles and no extra features."

      Someone should tell Lucas about this. He seems to be afraid that the Star Wars films will be pirated if they're released on DVD, but that fact is that most people who use pirated materials don't care much about quality. If someone made a bootleg Star Wars DVD copied from a VHS tape, people would buy it if it were cheap enough.

  19. Re:No DTS by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
    Actually, the chances that DTS will be on there are about slim to none. Lucas has this little thing called THX he'd rather have you listen to.

    Wouldn't a THX mastered DTS track still sound better than a THX mastered DD5.1 track?

    As long as THX isn't supported by the average home cinema setup, there is no reason to not put a DTS track on it. (unless my first assumption was wrong, of course)

  20. Re:well that's dumb by sacherjj · · Score: 1

    Meesah thinks I will rent it. I'm not interested in purchasing all of the itterated versions of Star ars that Lucas always tries to sell...

  21. About bloomin time. by Scooter · · Score: 1

    The only reason I bought a DVD player originally, was becuase I naively thought "heck yes the Star Wars Trilogy will be on disc.." It never occurred to me that the company that pioneered digital effects, and now is the first to actual film a full length movie staright onto digital media, would not also be among the first to release the damm things onto a digital medium. I mean, half of the Star Wars trilogy is John Williams' fantastic score, together with the extra load, extra bass soudn effects that rattled your part digested pop-corn as Vader's star destroyer went past at the beggining of episode IV. I already have 2 copies of each movie on tape, but lets face it - tape sucks. I mean, who now buys music on tape? (unless they just play it in the car) The damm things wear out so fast, and are not brilliant in the first place. I went to all the troible of buying a large widesreen screen, DVD player, Dolby decoder and 5.1 speakers and I'm still waiting to watch the very films that were crying out for it.

    I'd go to the cinema to watch them again definitely, but they are not always on when I want to watch them (read never). Besides - I have developed a hatred of the cinema experience - you can't smoke, pause the film to make coffee, and there is a distinct lack of sofas in every cinema I've been in. Also, there are the usual people throwing pop-corn, kicking me in the back of the head, rustling those specially designed 150Db packets made only for cinemas, talking away explaining the plot to their thick friends, and so on. Not to mention the odours that some of them give off... And do they make the seats that uncomfortable on purpose? The final irony, is that if you are real unlucky, you are so close to the damm screen you get whiplash following the action, and you can see that hair the camera operator missed on his lens.. some films I've seen in cinemas looked like they forgot to turn up the colour, and were so scrathed youd think they were half a century old.

    So. I'd like the next best thing in my house, where I can lie back on my sofa, smoke on, and adjust the damm picture. DVD's unlike film or VHS tape, do not wear out.

    One final thing - I couldn't care less for "additional features" - I don't give a s*** about how many hours some guy spent in make up - its a FANTASY - I don't want to see behind the curtain ffs! I know its not real - don't rub it in :P

  22. Re:Lucas not an open source enemy by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2

    Um, that's like saying that someone has nothing against black people if they are willing to profit from their labor. The friends of Open Source aren't the people who use it, they are the people who contribute to it. After all, even Microsoft uses it.

  23. Happy Birthday To Me! by Peale · · Score: 1

    October 16th is my birthday, so this is kinda good news. I don't, however, think I'll be spending $50 on this. $30, maybe, $25, definitely, $19.99, I'll buy two. But not for $50.

  24. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by RAruler · · Score: 2

    Well, you'd have to get the video before they added Jar Jar, but this video would probably be lacking some of the other special effects, it could be done, but to do it properly you'd need some sort of Industrial Light and Magic :)

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  25. Re:I think this made the real difference! by Augusto · · Score: 1

    A website for people to whine about George Lucas not releasing a DVD ! Wow, how pathetic !

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  26. Re:Additional material by ElrondHubbard · · Score: 2

    ISTM I read an article (on The Digital Bits, I think) that said the DVD was going to include two versions of the film: the release version, plus a second version that's identical except for having *no special effects* (i.e., all blue screen). Maybe that's the kind of thing only a film student would care to see, but I'm kind of disappointed that this won't be part of the package. I would pay extra to have both versions to compare side by side. In fact, if there is anything to the rumour, I hope Lucas announces it before October 16 so I can decide whether to hold off for that version.

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  27. Re:Episode I by ElrondHubbard · · Score: 3

    I just don't understand what you mean when you say the film is poorly done. Obviously you don't mean on the technical level; the effects are all but flawless.

    "No plot"? Episode I has a plot that works on a number of levels: straightforward adventure, political intrigue, character interaction... The film is very well constructed. Look at the ending: four separate plot threads taking place in separate locations are intricately intercut and interwoven seamlessly. I also want to draw attention to the mystery aspect of it: that is, the mystery of Darth Sidious' identity. Of course everyone knows who Darth Sidious *really* is, but imagine you'd never seen the previous movies -- could you figure out the truth just from what's on the screen in Episode I? You can if you're paying attention, all the information is there, hiding in plain sight. Likely as not I would have missed it if I hadn't known.

    The film has some obvious flaws. Plainly the first hurdle that most people face is Jar-Jar. This isn't a problem for me, since I don't care about Jar-Jar one way or the other; I just accept him as what he is, which is comic relief. And yes, some of the dialogue his hokey, particularly Anakin's. How much of the dialogue in the previous films was *not* hokey? A worse flaw is the missed opportunity to establish Anakin's anger management problem: specifically, there was a scene cut from the film where he attacks a much younger Greedo after the Rodian accuses him of winning the pod race by cheating. I don't understand why Lucas left that scene out; maybe the movie was running long.

    Sometimes I just get the idea that the people who heap scorn on Episode I are just disappointed that it didn't overwhelm them like Episode IV did back when they were ten years old. Either that or I wonder if they saw the same film I did (several times, I might add).

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  28. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by kinkie · · Score: 2

    It is, and it was (at least in Italian).

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  29. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by sharkey · · Score: 2

    Star Wards? Is that a futuristic department store that began it's life as Montgomery Ward's?

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  30. Re:I'm surprised... by sharkey · · Score: 3

    It WAS self-defense. Greedo had already stated that he was going to kill Han. What the change did was change the Han Solo character from a man who will do what he has to, (and have a good one-liner to follow), to one that waits until he is scared into action.

    Aside from all that, the addition of Greedo's shot was pathetic. It was amateurish, and made the special effects on the Sci-Fi Channel look polished in comparison. Lucas should have stuck with what was in the script, and not tried to cozy up to the bleeding-heart, keeping-yourself-alive-is-a-crime crowd.

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  31. And the original? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    I would love to see the original cinema edition on DVD. I feel that some of the CGI that was added to the Episode 4 just didn't look right, for example Jabba or the creatures that the storm troopers were riding didn't walk right.

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  32. Re:Episode I by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1

    > When you first saw Star Wars Ep 4, did you doubt for one second that C-3PO was a real robot, Chewbacca was a real Wookie, and that Darth Vadar was a really real bad guy?

    > Credit where credit's due, Jar Jar is certainly real enough to actually hate. ;)

    Yeah, Jar Jar is a real action figure.

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  33. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by Black+Parrot · · Score: 3

    > Anyone know how Jar-Jar gets translated into other languages? I mean, is it possible to make him sound as obnoxious in French or Japanese as he does in English?

    In the Jamaican edition he talks just like Prince Charles.

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  34. Re:The Jedi Edition by plaiddragon · · Score: 1

    No Amidala?!?!? Blasphemy!!!

    C'mon...she is worth keeping for any edition. Hell, she's worth dealing with Jar Jar...er..well...maybe.

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  35. Re: Disappointments by csb · · Score: 1
    Hear-hear, you said it better than I was going to... Ep. 1 was so bad / disappointing / sold-out that I can't imagine even renting it, nevertheless owning it.

    Don't get me wrong, I am huge huge fan of ep's 4-6 (especially 5). It changed my life, and all of that... but ep. 1 was simply a dog's breakfast, there's no way to ever make it look good.

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  36. Re:I'm surprised... by EvlG · · Score: 2

    how did the A New Hope SPecial Edition change the entire story line and fundamental definition of one of the main characters?

    I sure didn't catch that.

  37. Are you crazy? by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2

    A half an hour to an hour? More like about 5 minutes, if we're lucky.

    I could have done with about 3 hours less of the pod race and a little bit more story. The whole Jedi Council thing was too rushed.

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  38. Re:well that's dumb by pangloss · · Score: 1

    fyi, it's only $29.98 (USD).

    and for the karma-pimps, here's some karma-whoring--ostensibly because starwars.com is already /.'ed:

    On October 16, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will begin the worldwide release of Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace on DVD. The highly anticipated arrival of Episode I marks the first film of the Star Wars saga to debut on DVD.
    Enthusiastic fans of the film will be rewarded for their patience. Clocking in at about 480 minutes in length, it features over six hours of additional bonus material, including brand new visual effects sequences executed just for the DVD release.

    Here's what the two-disc set will feature:

    The Phantom Menace, mastered by THX for superior sound and picture quality, presented in Anamorphic Widescreen and Dolby 5.1 Surround EX (English), Dolby 2.0 Surround (English and Spanish), and Dolby 2.0 Surround (French, for Canadian release)
    Audio commentary by Writer-Director George Lucas; Producer Rick McCallum; Co-Editor and Sound Designer Ben Burtt; Visual Effects Supervisors Scott Squires, John Knoll and Dennis Muren; and Animation Supervisor Rob Coleman, offering personal insights into the making of the film
    Seven never-before-seen deleted scenes with full visual effects completed just for the DVD release
    "The Beginning" -- an all-new hour-long documentary culled from over 600 hours of footage offering unprecedented access inside Lucasfilm and ILM during the making of Episode I
    Multi-angle storyboard to animatic to finished film feature, that lets you flip through the various phases of development of key action sequences
    Five behind-the-scenes featurettes exploring The Phantom Menace's storyline, designs, costumes, visual effects and fight scenes
    The popular "Duel of the Fates" music video that debuted in 1999
    All 12 parts of the Lynne's Diaries, the web documentaries that first appeared here at starwars.com
    Galleries of theatrical posters, print campaign, and never-before-scene production photos
    Downloaded by millions from starwars.com, the original theatrical teaser and launch trailers, plus seven TV spots including the "tone poems"
    The two-disc set is priced at $ 29.98 in the U.S. and $ 41.98 in Canada.

    Keep checking starwars.com for more updates on this exciting upcoming release.

  39. Re:When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie.. by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

    Yeah, with the MPAA already raising the prices of movies to what they are, it will be a cold day in hell when I donate the same amount or greater to another foundation!

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  40. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by gellor · · Score: 1

    My suggestion for a comparison where the differnce is very noticable (on my system at least) is Saving Private Ryan. The DTS version just about caused me to soil myself during the beach landing the first time I watched it.

  41. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by suraklin · · Score: 1

    They have the same ears.

  42. Re:No Special Edition VHS first? by Shadowhawk · · Score: 1

    You really think there's only gonna be one DVD edition? Think again.

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  43. Well Now Give Us Major League! by Ch0k3r · · Score: 1

    Now that the grip has loosened enough for a SW movie to be released on DVD, How about releasing Major League. ML 2 and the sucky 3 are on dvd in the dollar bins already.

    Pfft.

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  44. Well by PovRayMan · · Score: 1

    There have been some pirate dvds of The Phantom Menace already.

    At least this would be an official release with some extra goodies.

    I guess I'll buy this one.

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    1. Re:Well by ackthpt · · Score: 5
      There have been some pirate dvds of The Phantom Menace already.

      At least this would be an official release with some extra goodies.

      Yeah, it would be great to have a copy without those two robots kibitzing all throughout the movie.

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    2. Re:Well by RaboKrabekian · · Score: 1

      The dvds you refer to are most likely dubs of the Asian LD, VCD, or US VHS transfers. I'd be willing to bet that every aspect of this transfer will be far superior, irregardless of any extras.

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  45. When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie... by Hobart · · Score: 4

    (Yes, I'm running out to buy this one when it comes out too, despite Jar Jar :P)

    Consider donating an identical amount (or more?) of the cost of your DVD purchase to the EFF here: https://www.eff.org/support/ ...

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  46. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by generic-man · · Score: 2
    Sounds a lot like I do when people tell me about a new "book" that's coming out. I think it's preposterous that publishers intend for me to pay money for a book! It's just printed words arranged using a publishing program. Not worth it, in my book. So here's what I did:
    • Borrowed the book from a friend
    • Downloaded a pirated e-book version
    • Read the book
    • Returned the book and deleted the pirated e-book

    All of which I am allowed to do by fair use laws. Similarly, people are allegedly buying "compact discs," which consist of nothing more than pre-recorded music. That is nothing more than data! Simple, pure, data. I will not pay someone upwards of $10 for the privilege of listening to data that I could download for free.

    The thought that you would pay for such things. Ugh. If you can download it for free, you shouldn't pay for it.
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  47. Pre-Laserdisc technology by mjpaci · · Score: 1

    Does anyone remember the old RCA VideoDisc technology? It was developed in the mid 70's/early 80's at the Sarnoff Research Center in Princeton, NJ. It read the video disc with a needle. Pretty neat for the time.

  48. Re:View Options - do you have a DVD player? by mjpaci · · Score: 1

    That would be awesome with the Godfather trilogy. Select either to watch it in chronological order OR to watch it as it was released on the big screen.

    --Mike

  49. Re:When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie.. by mjpaci · · Score: 1

    Can someone tell me why a $100,000,000 movie only costs me $17.99 at Best Buy when a $4,000,000 CD from a teeny-bopper Brittany Spears costs $18.99?

  50. Re:With ANTI-JarJar Features I Hope... by mjpaci · · Score: 1

    How about an option to replace Jar-Jar with Cookie Monster or TinkyWinky?

    --Mike

  51. Re:Lucas not an open source enemy by mjpaci · · Score: 1
    I believe ILM got STEEP discounts on SGI hardware if they didn't mention what other platforms they used behind the scenes.

    Here is a link from a 5/99 Wired article titled Star Wars: The Phantom Macs.

  52. What would be more exciting... by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 2

    ...is if the disc set were released regionless. That way, everyone would be able to enjoy the set, not just people in Region 1.

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    1. Re:What would be more exciting... by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 1

      kiseki anime dvds are region 0 too, e.g. macross 2 and gunbuster

      graspee

  53. Re:Episode I by pcgamez · · Score: 1

    "that no time or effort was spent on picking good actors" Hey the queen (pretty sure she was the queen) was hot...thats all that mattered!

  54. Re:Episode I by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1
    Heh... greed is unfathomable... Bill Gates still goes after wealth/fame/whatever, even though he has more than anyone else alive. (Or dead, maybe.) Besides, the greed could have been from somewhere else, too. I mean, really... the toys came out before/at the same time as the movie. That's rediculous.

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  55. Re:Episode I by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2
    Thank you for the specifics concerning the whole situation surrounding the direction of Episode I. I wasn't aware of the situation, mainly because the film itself made me too ill to look into it; I was simply postulating as to why it might have been so bad.

    As far as McGregor and Neeson being bad actors: maybe they aren't. However, they were in Episode I, and here's why: there was no report between any of the characters (except for the small amount of sickening report between Anakin and the Princess, but that hardly reports). All the talking seemed quite dull, as if they were rattling off memorized lines. (I'll draw you to the schenes where the two Jedi meet JarJar, and where Gui Quan (or whatever the heck it was) explained to Anakin (what the heck are they doing calling him 'Annie' for? I mean, really people!) what metacloreans (wtf? this was pulled from which orifice? never mind that it's a weak take on metacondrea) were.

    Contrast the dialog and character relationship development to that of, say, the schene on the Falcon in Star Wars, right after the destruction of Alderaan, when Han is giving Luke a hard time, and they're conversing. Not terribly good acting, but a HECK of a lot better than Episode I. There was real human emotion and depth in the trilogy and it's characters, even in the non-humans! There was NONE of that in Episode I, really. That's what makes films good - the portrayal of human strengths and weaknesses through trials, the display of human emotion, and various other elements of life which we can identify with. The Gungans? What, exactly, did they add to the film besides an excuse to render something extra? Nothing.

    I could go on and on about the contrast between Star Wars and Episode I . They're black and white - two completely contrary films. While the Trilogy demonstrates what is good, and what all film artists seem to try and live up to now, Episode I seems to set a counter-example - don't effing do anything like it!

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  56. Episode I by CAIMLAS · · Score: 3
    I'm not trying to be a troll, or start a flame war... but I feel that Episode I really sucked. Not just "it didn't measure up to the Trilogy," but "this is so poorly done it's nearly indescent." There was no plot, no character interaction, Gore-like acting, totally meaningless dialog, and purely catchy items that little children would like. The Trilogy didn't do that - it had all of those items in excess (except for good acting - that was kind of lacking in the first one, I believe.)

    It makes one wonder what happened. I'm not sure of specifics, but I took a look at the credits for Episode I. Mr. Lucas didn't direct this film completely. It appears as if he had a 'co-producer' that did all the work, and simply ran it by George. Also, from my perceptions, they threw so much budget money and emphasis was thrown into special effects, that no time or effort was spent on picking good actors, or developing a coherrent story line.

    I have a hard time believing that the story behind Episode I was around since the initial Star Wars. It feels plastic and commericial, simply produced to sell toys. Even the key factor of the film - the special effects - grew terribly old by the end.

    So as to keep this somewhat on-topic... I was of the understanding that the Trilogy would be released at the same time as Episode I. I also ponder whether the 'extra material' is thrown in there so that adults can feel justified for buying the disk, due to the poor quality of the film. (Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Star Wars fan. I just really don't consider Episode I to be even close to Star Wars in any aspect besides the lightsabers.)

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    1. Re:Episode I by Nevrar · · Score: 1

      Um. I partly disagree. Sure Jarjar was overdone, and very childish - my first impressions were that it was very much a kids movie. As for the plot, well it isn't that great, but read on...

      However, I happened to have just watched it this afternoon (i just bought the video for $5 in a sale ;), and have come to the conclusion that it is in keeping with the other Star Wars movies.

      Childishness: Take Return of the Jedi for instance. That has that whole ewoks thing going which is very childish. R2D2 and C3PO are also very childish. I reckon that the older episodes have been around so long that people forget that they enjoyed them as kids, not adults.

      Odd plots: Ok, A New Hope, and Return of the Jedi were very much well rounded, but The Empire Strikes Back leaves you very much in the middle of things (ie. builds up for R. of the J.). I reckon that Episode 1 is similar to this in that its sorta the beginning of the series...

      I think those relate to the comment i'm replying to. There are obviously more, but someone else can list them if they want :)

      Having said that, I still don't think it is the best Star Wars movie.

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    2. Re:Episode I by gdr · · Score: 2
      Fans aren't angry simply because the film was bad. Bad films happen. Life goes on. Fans were angry because so much of Episode I was specificly tailored to spawn marketable products.
      Good point but I'd like to add one thing. I think the main reason fans were angry was because they felt betrayed.

      Eps IV-VI were teenager's films with little real depth. Fans who were teenagers when IV-VI came out are adults now and want to know the history of the Empire, how it came about, how it turned bad and why the Jedi couldn't/wouldn't stop it. They wanted a film with more intelligence than the action movies that were the first trilogy, because they have grown up.

      Instead they got a children's movie.

    3. Re:Episode I by malducin · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what you are talking about but Lucas did direct, hands on, Episode 1. As any other film they have other unit direcotrs, mainly second unit, but by no means they had someone else do all the work and him just give a stamp of approval. just watch the documentaries on the official Star Wars site, reports on several different magazines like Cinefex, American Cinematographer, the VHS featurette, etc. Also I wouldn't call Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson bad actors.

      Sometimes it make me wonder about the perceptions. A lot of people complain that there is no story, but as soon as you mention the Coruscant scenes with the political intrigue they think it too boring and should be all action (maybe like Armageddon). True the movie was more childlike, not as adult (but with enough for the kids) as the original. Some people attribute this to Lucas not having a producer that can say no to him like Gary Kurtz, producer of the first ywo originals. You can glance at this from the making of book "The Making of The Empire Strikes Back"
      by Alan Arnold. I personally don't dislike Jar Jar, it's purpose being that of a goofy childlike character (but people don't complain about Tom Greens or Adam Sandler's antics), and none of my friends, family or people I've met dislike him at all. Though some of his antics are just too much an do drag down the movie.

      As fas as the extras are concerned I welcome them. As a film lover I love to see the creative process behind the scenes. As someone especially interested in Computer Graphics and FX, I'm sure all that extra material will not be enough. But people question it's purpose. Don't watch it if you don't want. No wonder people still think that as far as FX computer "just di it all", that they ahve a button named "create dino or Jara Jar" and another one to "animate creature". It simply amazing what the people behind the scenes do, and I appreciate all the extra material but that's just me.

    4. Re:Episode I by IronChef · · Score: 2

      (but people don't complain about Tom Greens or Adam Sandler's antics)

      They certainly would if they showed up in STAR WARS, for Pete's sake. If you go to an Adam Sandler movie you know what you are getting into. Star Wars is supposed to be DIFFERENT than that.

    5. Re:Episode I by tswinzig · · Score: 2

      Also, from my perceptions, they threw so much budget money and emphasis was thrown into special effects, that no time or effort was spent on picking good actors...

      I'm sorry, I agree with most of what you wrote, but this is a sticking point! The original 3 Star Wars movies had only TWO great actors -- Harrison Ford and Sir Alec Guiness.

      Compare this to the actors for Episode I, especially: Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson, Samuel L. Jackson, Terence Stamp are all wonderful, and even Natalie "Hot Grits" Portman is pretty good.

      Sure, Jake sucks, but compared to Mark Hamill, who can complain?

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    6. Re:Episode I by FeTrut · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he, and others like Bill Gates do it not so much for the money itself as for the challenge of it. Making money is probably a thrill even past the point of not needing it for anything if you're good enough at it, just like anything else.

    7. Re:Episode I by TGK · · Score: 3

      I think you're missing the point in many ways. Episode I is not a "bad movie" because it dosn't measure up to the other SW films, and it's not a bad movie because it lacks plot. The fundamental problem with the film is not that it fails to measure up to IV V and VI, but that it simply is not intended as a continuation or a precurser to the trilogy. Now, before you all tell me I'm a nimrod for writing this, let me explain.

      Find the origional trilogy in a video store. See what it's listed under. Most places will list it under Sci-Fi, but smaller stores that lack such a section will list it as an action film. Now here's the kicker. Phantom Menace isn't listed as a Sci-Fi film. It clearly is, but it's listed under children's films.

      Fans aren't angry simply because the film was bad. Bad films happen. Life goes on. Fans were angry because so much of Episode I was specificly tailored to spawn marketable products. Firstly, the targeting of the film. By targeting the film to young audiances you vastly increase merchandising options. When did you last see a Shawshank Redemption lunch box? Secondly, Lucas allowed the film to focus in the wrong place. Episode I is about the origions of Anakin Skywalker. It's not about Qui Gon Jin, it's not about Jar Jar Binks. These things do not matter in the long run. These characters are clearly transitory in nature, yet Lucas blows them up, larger even than the roles of the coterie from IV V and VI, thus overshadowing Anakin. Now I'm not saying that Anakin was played by an Oscar winner here, but again, how many Anakin action figures were sold in comparison to Jar Jar or Qui Gon Jin figures? Anakin's not as marketable a character is Episode I, so he gets downplayed. You pointed out that a crucial scene was cut. This is a perfect example of this kind of market pandering.

      So that's my point. I don't think fans were upset that Episode I was a bad movie. It had a good plot, not great, but not bad either. It had great visuals. It lacked some of the great one liners that the rest of the trilogy is known for, but at least half of those are famous for their utter wretchedness. The problem was that Episode I was a sell out. It was done with a big budget, for a massive debut, and a huge marketing gig afterwards. No more drive buys on a block of wood covered with model battleship parts here, this is corporate america at work. And that's why the fans feel betrayed.

      This has been another useless post from....

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    8. Re:Episode I by geomcbay · · Score: 1
      Actually, quite a bit of the backstory for Episode I has been around since the original trilogy. If you read the first drafts of the original Star Wars script and/or look at a lot of the concept art that was done previous to the start of the first film, you'll see a lot of familiar things.

      I don't understand why people accuse Lucas of money-grabbing. He already had more money than God (but not as much as Bill Gates) before Phantom Menace made him anything, and its not as if ILM or any of his other companies are in any financial danger. He has more money than he or his kids could ever spend. Now, I'm not saying people have to respect Phantom Menace as a movie, but saying it was done just for money doesn't really make any sense.

    9. Re:Episode I by blair1q · · Score: 4

      You are correct. The "extra material" was enough to make me capitulate.

      I will probably buy a copy of this hoary slab of Gungan-shit.

      What can I say? I've had skywalkerian fantasies running through my mind since I was 14 years old. This is as thorough a part of my life as the Constitution I'd die to uphold. Having seen SW1 in the theater, I figured I'd paid my fealty. But no, marketing will out, and I'll just have to find a way to get one at the skinniest profit margin, because I can not do without.

      As for the reasons for the poor quality, this time Lucas did too much by himself. He caught lightning in a bottle with Star Wars. Lawrence Kasdan and Joseph Campbell put the meat into Empire and Jedi. Lucas had to craft this one alone. Hopefully he's gone to the water and seen his destiny, and will get his act together for the next two. He's listed in IMDB as having someone else helping with the script for Episode II. We'll see.

      And no, I don't expect the trilogy to appear in DVD (or whatever replaces it) until Lucas finds a way to encrypt it so that it can only be decrypted by the retina and occipital lobe of a licensed user.

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    10. Re:Episode I by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
      • I just don't understand what you mean when you say the film is poorly done. Obviously you don't mean on the technical level; the effects are all but flawless

      But poorly conceived. The Gungan/Droid battle was a CGI wet dream, while at the same time being utterly sterile and uninvolving. It was about as exciting as watching small boys moving toy armies around.

      • The film is very well constructed. Look at the ending: four separate plot threads taking place in separate locations are intricately intercut and interwoven seamlessly

      And how many did we care about? Surely I can't be the only person who screamed "Aaargh!" every time they cut away from the genuinely involving lightsabre battle to the (irrelevant) ewok^H^H^H^H Gungan CGI fest, the (annoying) Kid In Spaaace, and the (confused) AmiPadmeDala running around scenes. Yes, the cuts enhanced the tension of the lightsabre thread, but all of the other three threads were dull and unengaging.

      Episode 1 wasn't a total washout, but it was disappointing because Lucas did a bunch of stuff just because he could, and he made the mistake of putting in slapstick humour which really only works for the under 7 audience. Episode 1 was aimed at a specific audience at a specific time, and that'll hurt it in the long run.

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    11. Re:Episode I by Rogerborg · · Score: 3
      • The original 3 Star Wars movies had only TWO great actors -- Harrison Ford and Sir Alec Guiness

      James Earl Jones, David Prowse, Peter Mayhew, Anthony Daniels?

      Just because you didn't see/hear them, doesn't mean they're not talented actors.

      When you first saw Star Wars Ep 4, did you doubt for one second that C-3PO was a real robot, Chewbacca was a real Wookie, and that Darth Vadar was a really real bad guy?

      Credit where credit's due, Jar Jar is certainly real enough to actually hate. ;)

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    12. Re:Episode I by linuxpng · · Score: 1

      agreed, but no different than most movies recently. It's also unrealistic to think that george lucas would express creativity the same way 24 years later. I also heard he had some deal to not release anything on dvd until 2006. Anyone else heard this rumor?

    13. Re:Episode I by DanielKeating · · Score: 1

      "Also, from my perceptions, they threw so much budget money and emphasis was thrown into special effects, that no time or effort was spent on picking good actors" Now wait a minute here. Three of the actors in this film - Liam Neeson (Schindlers List), Ewan McGregor (Trainspotting) and Natalie Portman (Leon) are three VERY fine actors. Those three films are highly regarded, an part because of those actors skills. In the Phlegmpton Menace, they were simply wasted. Don't blame the actors on making such a pile of dross. Place blame where it squarely lies, on Lucas' doorstep. BTW - I still think the robotic soldiers wre pretty good though.

  57. Re:Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by arazor · · Score: 3

    it was posted on the newsgroup
    alt.binaries.starwars for sure im downloading it right now :)

  58. Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by citizenc · · Score: 2

    The article in question also speaks of "The Phantom Edit" .. however, my attempts at locating a copy online have failed miserably. Does anybody know where I can find a copy?

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    1. Re:Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by citizenc · · Score: 2

      I've tried looking on gnutella, but the only thing that keeps coming back is DIVX copies of The Phantom Menace. (Even though I am searching for "The Phantom Edit". Go Figure.) Perhaps I am connecting to the wrong network, though ;-)

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    2. Re:Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by citizenc · · Score: 2

      Would you be willing to contact me via ICQ? I'd like to get my hands on a copy, but, alas, I don't know ANYTHING about downloading stuff from newsgroups. >:)

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    3. Re:Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by Tiroth · · Score: 1

      Wow. You really have to have balls to post a statement like that to /.

    4. Re:Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by alanjstr · · Score: 3

      Try gnutella (The Phantom Edit or TPE). I tried a google search and kept coming back with very nothing about it. I couldn't even find the denial on Kevin Smith's web site that he was the 'editor'. I'd certainly like to see it. There was a news blurb on Plastic.com and my submission to /. about it got rejected ;-). You can try The Phantom Edit Fan Site.

    5. Re:Downloading "The Phantom Edit"? by Magila · · Score: 1

      There is a copy of it (2 CD DiVX) on eDonkey2000 (http://www.edonkey2000.com).

  59. I Hope So =) Think About It .. by citizenc · · Score: 2

    There IS hope. Since Jar Jar never made an appearance in the first 3 movies (IV, V, and VI), we KNOW he has to die in the next two movies somewhere. =) *Grin*

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  60. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by operagost · · Score: 1

    It's not Jar-Jar-less, but there's less Jar-Jar. They also took out the stupid, boring scene underwater with the big sea monsters.

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  63. No Special Edition VHS first? by L-Train8 · · Score: 3

    Hmm... I only own one VHS copy of SWTPM, and already they are coming out with the DVD? How can George Lucas make any money if fanboys like me only end up buying 2 copies of his movies?

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  64. I'm surprised... by Mano1KAges · · Score: 2

    I can't believe that the 6 hours of additional footage and 7 deleted scenes are being released on the first DVD release. I mean, shouldn't it go a little more like:

    1. Original released
    2. Enhanced version with new super-duper THX2 sound
    3. A month later, re-release in theaters with the deleted (2 second) scence included
    4. Release of DVD with deleted scences
    5. Release of "limited edition" behind-the-scences DVD

    That would seem to follow better the George Lucas release schedule, don't you think?

    1. Re:I'm surprised... by Tungz10 · · Score: 1

      Greedo would have killed him or brought him to Jabba (death) anyway.

      But you're right that it changed his whole character, just not the way you describe.

    2. Re:I'm surprised... by dan_bethe · · Score: 1

      Yeah but he shot a bounty hunter who was going to take him to his death or kill him anyway. I don't condone Han's actions in any context whatsoever, but I don't know if it qualifies as "cold blood". :}

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    3. Re:I'm surprised... by eudas · · Score: 1

      shit, if shooting greedo first makes one cold-blooded, then most people would be cold-blooded in such a situation.

      imo cold-blooded is killing someone who doesn't need to be killed. in han's situation, it was kill or be killed. that's not cold-blooded, that's survival.

      eudas

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    4. Re:I'm surprised... by Violet+Null · · Score: 1

      You didn't hear the hoopla?

      In the scene where you first see Han Solo, he's sitting in the cantina having a drink. The bounty hunter (Greebo) joins him, and they have a chitchat, where Greebo threatens Han, yadda yadda.

      In the original version, Han makes some plithy comment, and then shoots Greebo under the table.

      In the re-released version, they added in Greebo shooting at Han first (and missing, despite being all of two feet away), and then Han shooting back in self-defence.

      How does this change the storyline? Dunno. But it really does change the nature of Han that's presented.

  65. Re:Here's what the extra content will be by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 2

    Since they were cut from the film, the scenes had never been completed.

    Before anybody gets excited about new material in the movie, let's try not to forget that these scenes were deleted for a reason, and the Jar Jar scenes were left in.

    That should tell you how bad they probably are.

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  66. Re:Apple and StarWars by technos · · Score: 1

    Making fun of Apple's ads is more fun than making fun of Gateways? Well, save that annoying 60's-ish one I heard on the radio this morning..

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  67. I wonder... by __aawsxp7741 · · Score: 1

    with the way films like Episode I are planned and marketed, are these really "deleted scenes", or rather material filmed directly for DVD? It does make buying it a lot more attractive...

  68. wow... you must be stupider than jar jar himself by MemeRot · · Score: 1

    Kids love jar jar.
    1) That's not true
    2) If the point of the movie was to make kids happy - why was the plot about a vote of no-confidence in a senate in the middle of a trade war? You can't really explain the plot of the movie to a child - and you can't make an adult tolerate Jar Jar. Lucas had 2 potential audiences (believe me i wanted to love it, my first memory is seeing Star Wars at a drive in as a little kid) - he could have done middle of the road stuff that would partially include both or focused solely on one. Instead he put in Jar-Jar that could only appeal to one kids while repulsing adults, and put in a plot that could only be understood by adults.

  69. Re:Deleted scenes by Moonshadow · · Score: 1

    I read a pre-production script witha few extra scenes, for example one in which Obi-Wan lets his Lightsaber 'battery' run down

    Shoulda used Energizer.

    Anyone else remember that commercial?

  70. Apple and StarWars by supabeast! · · Score: 2

    Top ten reasons to own an imac: Rip Episode 1 dvd and extra footage to hard disk. Make movie watchable. Laugh as thousands of warez monkeys trade internet edits and call people asking for DiVX rip of the official release lamers.

  71. Re:When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie.. by RobNich · · Score: 1

    Because the industry charges what it feels, based on the demographics, what it can charge. Brittney is being bought by 10-16 year old girls' parents. DVDs, on the other hand, are bought by old (and possibly young) geeks, who don't fit into that demo, and probably have (or simply spend) less money.

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  72. Dynamic DeCSS Phantom Edit would be illegal by michaelmalak · · Score: 2

    The real problem here is that under DMCA, a Linux program to dynamically show a Phantom Edit off a purchased Phantom Menace DVD would be illegal.

  73. I'll wait for the DivX by w00d · · Score: 1

    No thanks. I'll wait for the "Phantom Edit" DivX DVDrip.

  74. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by Tiroth · · Score: 1

    Although you've alluded to it, some people might be unaware that due to a quirk of human hearing, louder is always interpreted as better.

    Unscrupulous (or lazy) hifi salespeople often take advantage of this fact...people are often unaware of small volume differences as such; rather, they just think the louder sound is better.

  75. Re:THX is not a sound format. by Tiroth · · Score: 2

    Nevertheless, THX is a standard for hardware too, and they love to keep adding to it. (thus THX 7.6534 requires 64 seperate loudspeakers and...) It's just good business; people keep upgrading to stay top-of-the-line, and THX collects licensing fees on every "THX certified" product.

  76. Re:Lucas not an open source enemy by Roadmaster · · Score: 1

    he's probably not opposed to using open source software, but he has never been seen advocating it. He's not an enemy but not a friend either; i think it would fit more in the category of those who think free(speech) software gives them a free (beer) ride.

  77. Re:Criterion by weinford · · Score: 1

    But maybe even better, is there an option to view the movie with JarJar turned off?

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  78. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

    Well, it can't be too hard to make it sound obnoxious in French ;-)
    ChodaBoy

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  79. Still no Eps. IV, V or VI by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

    Unless there was a Phantom Edit mode, I wouldn't waste change I found on the sidewalk for the Phantom Menace on DVD, VHS or full digital immersion hologram for that matter.

    I'll wait for the Definitive Collection of IV, V and VI on DVD so I can retire my Laserdisc player once and for all.
    ChodaBoy

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  80. Re:Here's what the extra content will be by ChodaBoy · · Score: 1

    What it should include is a half-hour apology from Lucas for Jar-Jar and for making Anakin such an annoying little git.
    ChodaBoy

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  81. Not gonna get it by Legion303 · · Score: 1
    1. Fuck the MPAA. They aren't getting a dime from me.
    2. The movie was shit compared to the first two.
    3. Jar Jar Binks is the Antichrist.
    4. Fuck the MPAA. They aren't getting a dime from me.

    -Legion

    1. Re:Not gonna get it by Legion303 · · Score: 1
      Return of the Jedi was only marginally better than TPM. Although I will allow that the opening scene with Luke's diving board stunt was pretty nifty. :)

      -Legion

    2. Re:Not gonna get it by the+unbeliever · · Score: 1

      The first two? I always thought there were three movies before TPM :)

  82. Re:well that's dumb by steeef · · Score: 1

    why you feel that any release of episode i is reason enough to buy a dvd player is beyond me. there are much better movies on dvd besides star wars that i can think of. brazil criterion edition comes to mind... of course, it's all a matter of opinion.

  83. ESB was the best by Tungz10 · · Score: 1

    How about the interchanges between Han and Leia in The Empire Strikes Back? That was the best film IMO, had the professional touch that IV didn't, but none of the childish crap (ewoks) that Return of the Jedi had.

  84. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by scotch · · Score: 1
    George Lucas might make good movies...

    This is where you stopped speaking for me.

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  85. Re:Deleted scenes by the+Man+in+Black · · Score: 1

    This scene (and several others) are detailed in the novel 'The Phantom Menace' by Terry Bridges, which I personally enjoyed a lot more than I did the movie. Didn't have to deal with Anakin's piss-poor acting, or Jar-Jar's...existence.

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  86. Re:Wow! by RestiffBard · · Score: 1

    gee he also promised that episode 1 wouldn't suck

    be cool if episode two and matrix two released at the same time. if so I'm laying money down for matrix 2

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  87. I'll only buy it if.. by Alkaiser · · Score: 3

    It's 30 minutes of actor/director commentary, and 5 1/2 hours of them beating Jar Jar with sticks and apologizing for his existance.

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  88. Re:Wow! by malducin · · Score: 1

    Well there is a thing called "changing one's mind". So what. it's like when Michael Jordan retired the first time promising to not come back and just play baseball, but he changed his mind. It's not like it's written in stone. Besides, how could they have gotten all those extras on VHS anyway, especially stuff you have to navigate like production notes and photos. He (or more specifically Lucasfilm Licensing) could have just wanted to release just the same material from the VHS and then in 2 years release an expanded version. But at least they chose to make a decent double disk release.

  89. Re:Deleted scenes by malducin · · Score: 1

    Many scenes were indeed shot, the lightsaber malfunction bit, which is why OB1 is running away that droid in the STAP on the swamp at the beginning and Qui Gon reprimanding him later. There was a scene shot with the youg Rodian (Greedo like), I believe Anakin decks him. Also there were some cuts here and there of finished stuff, like when Boss Nass says that Jara Jat should be punished by stoning, when they are in the council on the underwater city. There were a few more minor deits here and there.

  90. Re:Lucas not an open source enemy by malducin · · Score: 1

    Well I'm not sure what would imply that Lucas has the final say about this. All he cares is that the ILM delivers the shots, the images. Probably finance them. But it's actually up to ILM to decide what they use. They do extensive testing on new technology to have the best production pipeline possible. They even have a special agreement with SGI, called JDEI to get to test all new equipment, plus they are a beta testing site for Alias/Wavefront. Here is the press release for their renewed JEDI agreement:

    SGI is Preferred Provider of Content Creation Workstations and Servers for Industrial Light & Magic

    It's actually up to the ILM engineers and management to decide what to use, Lucas is not involved in that. ILM has figured out the Linux gives them a good solution. years ago when Softimage was part of M$ and ported the software to NT, ILM did several test as to the feasability of using NT in their production pipeline, but it never panned out.

    Besides their SGI infrastructure they have the Mac Rebel Unit which uses macs for stuff like texture painting, matte pintings, animatics and compositing. They just use what works, and finally Linux is good enough for production work. There are also rumors that they recently bought several Digital Tru64 boxes. They also have regular Win PCs for office work. There was even an old report that they started using Linux in the engineering dept. long ago for routers or some such thing. Here are the appropiate links:

    Linux takes Hollywood by storm
    The Little Engine That Could

    Lucas probably doesn't care, he could be using a PC or Mac for writing the screenplays. It's up to ILM to use what is best for them.

  91. Re:multiple audio by Nastard · · Score: 1

    The Galaxy Quest DVD has an audio track composed completely of the aliens' language. It's extremely funny for about five minutes, and then you are just forced to wonder why the went through the ENTIRE movie.

  92. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by aiken_d · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I meant to type "Star Warts", as that's my current opinion after realizing that I managed to pay almost $250 for a single movie in an obsolete format, and seeing that they're about to try to trick me into paying *another* $250 for a movie that I don't even like.

    Yes, it's my fault. But I reserve the right to be angry at the fsckers who sat around boardroom tables drinking $30 coffees, thinking of new versions to release to milk cash from their fans.

    Bah, they've got no respect for me, I've got no respect for them. The difference is: they need me.

    -b

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  93. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by aiken_d · · Score: 3

    Um, I beg to differ. DD has a total bandwidth of 320KB/s; at 5 channels, that's 64KB/S, or 32K-samples/sec @ 16 bits. Less than CD quality. Only 72% the resolution of CD's, in fact.

    Add in the .1 sub channel, and you're talking about half the quality (per channel) available on CD's since 1981.

    DTS devotes 48khz, 16 bit samples to all 5 channels, or 480KB/S. Sure, it's only 25% more detail than DD, but it's significant, especially during sequences with heavy surround effects.

    DD's trick is to move bits from less used channels to more used channels. It's a good trick, but if you actually have ears and you've heard the same film passage in both formats, you would never compare the two.

    DD-EX (or THX EX) is a different story and is finally on par with DTS.

    For more information, see: http://www.moviesoundpage.com/msp_dddtsdvd.htm

    Cheers
    -b

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  94. Actual DVD release schedule... by aiken_d · · Score: 5

    ...Lucas already busted me on laserdisc; I have 4 copies of Star Wards. Based on that experience, here's my prediction for the actual, top secret, rape-the-fans schedule:

    October 16, 2001: Ep. 1, 6 hours of additional footage, some removed footage. Dolby Digital sound only (Yes, that's for real, check the link)

    February 10th, 2002: "Special Edition" Ep. 1, same 6 hours of additional footage, 2 more missing scenes, addition of DTS sound. Buy another copy if you've got a good sound system.

    May 30, 2002: "The ultimate edition" Ep. 1, new superior video transfer, director's commentary, Dolby digital and DTS sound. Missing the 6 hours of extra footage and extra scenes.

    September 15, 2002: "Director's cut" Ep. 1, back to the old video transfer, same running length but a few scenes switched around, commentary from Lucas and several actors.

    January 6, 2003: "Collector's Edition" Ep.1, Dolby Digital, DTS, 6 hours of extra footage, commentary, includes scripts, concept drawings, and other production notes.

    Me, I'm just gonna wait until Jan 6, 2003.

    -b

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    1. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by IronChef · · Score: 2


      You're slamming DD sound for no reason. DTS is a fine standard, but overhyped. I have the capability to decode both, and a good system to play 'em through, and there is precious little difference.

      Most of the time, DTS sounds a bit better just because it's a little LOUDER for the same volume knob setting. If there is some greate innate superiority, the mixing engineers on my DTS DVDs haven't tapped into it.

      If you can recommend a DVD where the DTS is clearly, far and away superior, to the point that your across the board DD slam is justified, I'd like to know.

    2. Re:Actual DVD release schedule... by IronChef · · Score: 2


      That's all neat, but give me an example where the difference is obvious. There must be some DVD that comes to mind.

      Bah, I should have kept my mouth shut, the DD/DTS thing has started plenty of flamewars in the past.

  95. Woohoo! by crashnbur · · Score: 1

    Wait, isn't this the perfect way to spend money? I mean, think about it... in ten years you're going to have the Episodes I-VI Special Addition Six-pack, and here we are buying everything as soon as it comes out! Geez, be patient, people! Or... Just feed Lucas's wallet. He expects us to anyway. :-)

    1. Re:Woohoo! by crashnbur · · Score: 1

      First, those are people. Not me.
      Second, I wouldn't mind if they were never released at all.

    2. Re:Woohoo! by linzeal · · Score: 1

      haha, damn no coffee thinking brain. Much better now I meant episode III

    3. Re:Woohoo! by ceesco · · Score: 1
      I don't know about you, but I saw episode VI about 18 years ago. Those damn neutrinos accelerating to the speed of light have reversed the flow of time again.

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    4. Re:Woohoo! by krugdm · · Score: 2

      It's not just that. It's that when Episode II is finally released to DVD, I can guarantee you that there will be a re-release of Episode I with "6 seconds of never before seen footage!!!" And Episode III will bring us Episode II re-released with "new digitally enhanced credits!!!" Not that I'm complaining that Episode I is finally being released. I just hope George is putting everything he's got into it, because this is his one and only shot at making a sale with me.

    5. Re:Woohoo! by RaboKrabekian · · Score: 1

      Well, first people whine that Lucas waits until all the movies are out before releasing them on DVD. "Release them now," we cry. Then he decided to release one of them and now you say, "Wait until they're all out!"

      You can't have it both ways. I'm glad they're releasing anything, and it looks to be a package well worth the purchase as well.

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  96. on EBay by oiuyt · · Score: 1
    Copy of Phantom Edit was posted on EBay yesterday, auction runs through the 23rd, currently has 19 bids, the highest being $56.00.

    -B :)

  97. Here's what the extra content will be by alanjstr · · Score: 4

    The Phantom Menace DVD set will include audio commentary by Lucas, an hour-long documentary on the making of the film, and featurettes about the plot, design, costumes, visual effects and fight scenes. The DVD extra will be seven deleted scenes, amounting to about 20 minutes of previously unseen footage. Since they were cut from the film, the scenes had never been completed. For the DVD, Lucasfilm and Industrial Light and Magic, Lucas' special effects operation, went back and finished them with full visual effects.
    Reuters

  98. Re:No DTS by theancient1 · · Score: 1

    From the article:

    The Phantom Menace, mastered by THX for superior sound and picture quality, presented in Anamorphic Widescreen and Dolby 5.1 Surround EX (English), Dolby 2.0 Surround (English and Spanish), and Dolby 2.0 Surround (French, for Canadian release

    It lists a bunch of other features too... but nothing that sounds too extraordinary. Just the typical DVD stuff: deleted scenes, a documentary, behind-the-scenes featurettes, a music video, posters, photos, trailer, storyboard, audio commentary.

    But anyhow, I thought THX wasn't an actual sound format, but a set of guidelines to make the movie sound and look good?

  99. Re:Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the J by BiggestPOS · · Score: 1
    Take the video out from your LD player, and plug it in to the best Capture card you can buy, or heck, even one of those Sony DV-cams with RCA input, those really capture at great quality, I mean considering their size, 200 megs a minute, it better look damn good. Then take this and use some sort of lossless compression, to back up the avi file to a DVD-R, if it will fit, you might have to span. Then, for everyday viewing, compress it down to Mpeg-2 using a really good software compressor, this could take a LONG time, even on the fastest of systems. Then master than mpeg-2 stream onto a dvd-r, and bam, you got DVDs of the Star Wars trilogy. Sure there is a lot more technical details, but this is a slashdot post, not a HOW-to. ;)

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  100. I posted this *TWICE* yesterday... by jcoleman · · Score: 1

    ...and got rejected both times. What the fuck. This site is a piece of shit and so are the story authors.

  101. Re:When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie.. by jcoleman · · Score: 1

    And public health!

  102. whiners by Refrag · · Score: 2

    I find it funny that the same people that bitch & moan about George Lucas making changes to his movies when he releases (or re-releases) them on video, are often the same people that bitch & moan when their favorite movie's Dolby Stereo soundtrack isn't remastered into Dolby Digital 5.1.

    I agree with them that he shouldn't change the movie, because doing so ignores the fact that his "art" is made for the fans. However, I certainly don't see how they can complain that people don't update the soundtrack in the same way Lucas updates his films.

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  103. The Jedi Edition by el_munkie · · Score: 2

    I was hoping for a Jedi Edition, which contains no Jar Jar, no Anakin, no Pods, and no Padme/Amidala. The only scenes included would be ones with lit light sabers or Yoda. If Lucas doesn't do this, I will see if I can do it in DivX.

  104. I still haven't seen this movie by ellem · · Score: 1

    I swear. Natalie Portman and all. I just wasn't into it. I'll probably rent the DVD. Seems weird that this is news and I haven't even seen the damn thing.
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  105. Re:View Options - do you have a DVD player? by JimPooley · · Score: 1

    Terminator II has both original and special edition versions.

    What I want to see when IV, V and VI come out is a similar thing. I want the original versions without the tacked on CGI and modifications to the plot as an option. Heck, they're the only versions I'd watch!

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  106. Mandy Rice-Davies by JimPooley · · Score: 1

    Rumor has it that Lucas has seen this, and while not allowing it to be distributed publicly, acknowledges that it's a good edit, but not as good as his original vision

    "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he."

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  107. Re:When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie.. by chinton · · Score: 1

    EFF off.

  108. Re:subtitles mean - we can understand jar-jar? by DLWormwood · · Score: 1

    For a good hint, get the VHS version and turn on closed-captioning on your TV if it has it. I couldn't understand Jar Jar without it...

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  109. Buy DVDs! Help support the poor MPAA by lightspawn · · Score: 1
    ... in their hopeless fight against evil hackers.

    Can the next poll be "would you like to see coverage of consumer products in DVD format?" please?

  110. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by shepd · · Score: 1

    And you don't know anything about a lease, do you?

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  111. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by shepd · · Score: 1

    I had a big item written up explaining why I think you are wrong. But I'll put it in short.

    Let's say I only own a Beta VCR. I rent a movie in VHS format (since that's all that is out there nowadays). I borrow a freind's VHS machine, but the cheap piece of junk has no TV Coax out. So instead I copy it to a Beta tape. I watch the movie. I bulk erase the Beta tape. I then return the movie.

    Did I violate the law? If not, then how is putting the VHS onto a digital format temporarialy any different? Would it be illegal to play the VHS tape on my computer's TV in (which is digital)? What if I played the tape through my Tivo and accidentally turned on the 15 minute video delaying feature (using MPEG-2 compression, similar to my VCD, of course)?

    Why is it I have this idea that the law looks upon leasing like a temporary purchase -- perhaps that's where I'm getting the idea wrong.

    If it doesn't I guess I'll just have to get rid of the 60" projection TV and put back the old 21" Panaphonics console, since the projection TV has digital picture enhancement, modifying the original signal again.

    I am pretty sure the DMCA only applies to things availiable in a digital format, which Star Wars EP-1 is not.

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  112. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by shepd · · Score: 1

    The tenacity of your prose ostensibly renders manifest your perfunctory implementation of the English language.

    Does endeavouring new words cause you to funk; Trembling at the thought of tucking tail; worried that someone similar might dispense a little displeasureable diatribe directed your way?

    Continued subversion of my writing will only leave me more resolute to plow forward with it.

    Although, I would appreciate the opportunity for a more amiable dialogue which could enrich upon the preponderation of both our future comments, rather than the current dialogue that renders our comments little more than plebeian in nature.

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  113. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by shepd · · Score: 1

    Succinctly? Indeed.

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  114. I think I speak for us all when I say by shepd · · Score: 2

    George Lucas might make good movies but his attitude sucks.

    What do we do with people with a bad attitude? Do we give them money? Hell no!

    Here's what I did:

    - Rented the VHS copy
    - Downloaded a VCD of it
    - Watched the VCD in my DVD player
    - Returned the VHS copy and deleted the VCD

    all of which I am allowed to do by fair use laws. I never bothered to buy the VHS and keep the VCD after that as the movie wasn't good enough -- it was dumbed down for the lowest common denominator by Jar-Jar, and therefore ruined. Special effects aren't so special on VHS -- you need good acting and a good plot -- both of which Jar-Jar decimated. DVD, maybe, since special effects are better on DVD. But, of course, by now they are old news and not worth the cost of the DVD.

    That man will never see more than the rental price of his movie from me until he improves his attitude (by which, I mean, he needs to release the DVD at the same time or earlier than the VHS, or don't release either).

    To sum it up: Check your attitude at the door next time Lucas, and I'll by happy to buy your stuff. 'Till then I'll just laugh at the huge stock of old EP-1 tapes still at my local Costco.

    I know I have an attitude, but I'm the customer. That's my right. :-)

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    1. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by anon757 · · Score: 1

      Here's what I did: - Rented the VHS copy - Downloaded a VCD of it - Watched the VCD in my DVD player - Returned the VHS copy and deleted the VCD all of which I am allowed to do by fair use laws.
      Umm, no. You are allowed to do this if you own the video, not if you just rented it. That is Illegal. And, even if you did own the video, your rights to make backups of it for your own use have been taken away by the DMCA. What you did is illegal in every sense of the word.

    2. Re:I think I speak for us all when I say by jeffehobbs · · Score: 1

      - Rented the VHS copy
      - Downloaded a VCD of it
      - Watched the VCD in my DVD player
      - Returned the VHS copy and deleted the VCD


      I think I speak for us all when I say: what a waste of time.

      ~jeff

  115. Re:Deleted scenes by IronChef · · Score: 2


    Are you kidding? Jar-Jar is gonna be a Jedi. Imagine how the kids will go ape for the clumsy Jedi, who can't ever seem to do anything right but somehow manages to save the day anyway... Puke!

    But seriously, I heard Jar-Jar will be getting PLENTY of screen time and an increasingly important role in the series. Double puke.

  116. Re:Additional material by IronChef · · Score: 2

    Enough to keep a Star Wars fan happy for some time.

    Enough to make a Star Wars fan try to swallow his or her own tongue in a fit of psychopathic rage and disgust, I'd say.

    It will be enough to make a Phantom Menace fan pretty happy though.

    On the day this comes out, I think I'll just watch Aliens. Again.

  117. DVD actually cheaper for Canadians! by loraksus · · Score: 2
    Well, sort of.

    The two-disc set is priced at $ 29.98 in the U.S. and $ 41.98 in Canada.
    Assuming a currency exchange of 1.5 can$ to one us (overly pessimistic), the price would be C$44.97.
    Oh, but then, assuming thay you live in BC, or any of the other provinces where 14% sales tax is the norm, the total would be brought to a nice and cozy $47.86. This is, of course, assuming that you pay no income tax (har, har) to the Canadian Government.

    This brings up an interesting point.
    If a Canadian works for minimum wage ($7) that would equal about 6.8 hours of work. The american pays (assuming $6.50 minimum wage, at least in Oregon) 4.6 hours of work are required - both calculations made w/o income tax comparisons, etc...

    If Lucas expects me to work my ass off for seven hours to watch his fucking movie, he has to realize something - that his DVD set is priced too fucking high in Canada.

    Mind you, broadband access in canada runs about $40 a month, $40 in the states. Almost enough incentive for you to buy a cable/dsl line and download the Divx Rip, which, mind you, has been out a few weeks before the movie was.

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  118. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by ProfBooty · · Score: 1

    I've seen the japanese version of star wars. It's very funny(if you understand japanese). c3po sounds gay, Darth Vader Talks like a Yakuza(but not nearly deep enough), and all the empire soldiers sound like your standard Anime soldier voice actors.

    This is likely because they had the same people dub it over who make cartoons.

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  119. Re:no region code? world wide release? by gerddie · · Score: 1

    Read it a second time:

    the article says "...begin worldwide release..."

    This does not necessarily mean, it's been released allover the world at the same time.

    Anyway, MPAA has proven more than one time, that region coding has next to nothing to do with release dates. Many old movies, which can be already seen on TV or are available on video for a long time still come out with region codes.
    So one can savely say, region coding is only about price control. Remember, Australia and the EU already target this.

  120. Re:Deleted scenes by enditallnow · · Score: 2
    I believe this article refers to the scene you are talking about.

    http://www.theforce.net/prequels/cutting_room9.sht ml

    By the looks of things the scene was filmed (theres pictures there to prove it)

    OBI-WAN
    "Sorry, Master. The swamp fried my lightsaber."

    He pulled out his weapon. The business end was blackened and burned. Qui-Gon took it from him and gave it a curios inspection.

    QUI-GON
    'You forgot to turn off the power again, didn't you Obi-Wan?'

    OBI-WAN
    'It appears so, Master.'

    QUI-GON
    'It won't take long to recharge, but it will take some time to clean up. I trust you have learned your lesson, my young Padawan.'

    OBI-WAN
    'Yes, Master.'"

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  121. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by enrico_suave · · Score: 2

    Well if you can find a bootlegger you can get a Jar jar less copy.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,26745,00.htm l

    it's called the phantom edit and I've been scouring (no pun intended) for a divx version on gnutella wihtout success the past 2 weeks or so...

    apparently George wasn't amused:
    http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/story/0,1259,- -- 7033,00.html

    *Shrug*

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  122. Re:THX is not a sound format. by cnkeller · · Score: 1

    To be fully THX compliant involves everything from speakers, decoder, amps, all the way down to the wires. Yep, the wires must be THX certified. One of the specs is equal power across the front three channels (left, center, right). I don't think a power rating was specified (110 watts is sticking in my head for some reason though). It may also involve stereo rear channels as opposed to mono, but I could be getting my AC3/5.1 specs confused. Also, THX certification is a recurring yearly process conducted by someone from Skywalker sound, though they may contract it out now.

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  123. 6 hours of additional video? by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 1

    It looks like it will be a double DVD set with 6 hours of additional material

    Episodes IV, V, and VI???
    Don't I wish...

    The worst vice is advice...

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  124. Re:Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the J by aanantha · · Score: 1

    or maybe get one of those Panasonic DVD-RAM video recorders.

  125. Re:well that's dumb by catkinson · · Score: 3

    According to the official announcement, the two disc set is going for $ 29.98 in the U.S. and $ 41.98 in Canada.

  126. The most interesting thing on the DVD ... by JeffreyDJ · · Score: 1

    .. will most likely be the special sneak preview trailer for EPII ... And we can all pray EPII makes up foe the abysmal pile of poo that was Episode I. And for you Jar Jar bashers ... Isn't Darth Vader screaming "yoo-hoo!" -- and destroying the big bad blockaders accidently in the process -- far worse than the annoying floppy-eared sea urchin? I'd argue yes. Also, I hope they'll remove the homoerotic tension between Qui Gon and Jar Jar. That just freaked me out. Either that, or the 7 extended scenes include the much rumored Gungan-jedi coupling.

  127. Petition. by ronny_magic · · Score: 3

    I wonder if this made a difference.

    1. Re:Petition. by jackb_guppy · · Score: 1

      Maybe we need a petition to get Weird Al's "The Saga Begins" added to the DVD.

      http://www.sagabegins.com/

      Then the DVD would be complete!

  128. Deleted scenes by ronny_magic · · Score: 3

    I read a pre-production script witha few extra scenes, for example one in which Obi-Wan lets his Lightsaber 'battery' run down, and another when their sub almost falls off a waterfall opon surfacing in Theed. Does anyone know if these were ever shot?

    1. Re:Deleted scenes by interactive_civilian · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they'll include the "Slow and painful death of Jar-Jar" scene that should have been included originally. Or are they going to save that for the next episode?

      ;)

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  129. Lucas was Cloned. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    It occurred to me; Phantom Mucus didn't just suck. It sucked in ways which benefit certain parties. . .

    I wonder if Lucas was 'Reprogrammed,' by the Committee For Dumber Sheep, (who think you should watch more television, buy more crap, work longer hours, and generally be a malleable brain-mush slave upon whose back the gravy train of the rich and powerful rides.)

    See. . . The new Star Wars film had the potential in these difficult times to raise people's awareness as to the workings of Good & Evil. Moreover, it could have added much weight to the current popularization of Eastern magic and philosophy.

    The general message of the first three Star Wars films was that Big Soulless Selfish Technology destroys life, and here's how and why you can weaken and defeat it. Do not give into the Dark Side. --An excellent message which was lost beneath a sea of lame which was the new film, ignored by everybody who counts in the adult world, and made retarded to the point that even a child would miss the point.

    Yeah. I think they Greenbaumed Lucas. Or just plain replaced him. --I mean, we're talking about a guy who once understood certain deep principals of life and story-telling suddenly allowing his company which once stood for high standards of both creativity and morality to turn into a runaway greed machine. Taco-Hell, for goodness sake! (Selling merchandising rights to the highest bidder rather than standing by old relationships. I knew the film would suck the second I saw Jar Jar's retarded mug on the side of KFC!)

    Personally, I can't wait for the DVD's of Star Wars to Jedi come out. Then I'll take my Laserdisk copies and cut them together with the DVD's, and chop out all the garbage from the new releases. Ahh. . . Color corrected and improved Star Wars, but without a dumb-ass hand puppet monster in the sand pit. And no Luke screaming on the way down. . .

    -Fantastic Lad

  130. Re:asperger/autistic people are morons by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1
    "Hey asshole - why would you post such crap as a reply to a message? Give me a break."

    The answer is rather simple.

    He is a troll.

    If he posted it on the bottom of the page no one would read it. Its no different then the the goatsex trolls replying to a message on the top of the screen and puting an url wich refers to www.cnn.com which makes it look ontopic and then loopbacks to the goatsex.cx site in order to trick the maximum amount of slashdoters into clicking the link as possible. I have seen this.

    By the way I have aspergers syndrome. Alot of individuals in the IT world have aspergers or mild autism. These are the geeks you see with weird bahaviors and difficulty in comminicating but are great coders. If you know anyone like that, then they are probably autistic or have aspergers. This troll knows this and is typing this to piss people like myself off.

    Moderators do your job

  131. Star Wars Appetizer by CraigoFL · · Score: 2
    All these DVD extras kind of remind me of the Special Edition releases of Ep. IV thru VI a little bit before Episode I came out. It was nice to get my Star Wars appetite whet before the new (albeit disappointing) movie came out.

    Folks, realize that the Episode I DVD will come out just 7 months before Episode II is scheduled to hit the theaters (last I heard it was going to be May 19, 2002, 3 years to the day after Episode I came out).

  132. Non-Jar-Jar by CoreyG · · Score: 5
    I wonder if one of the language options will include a Jar-Jar free version.

    English Dolby Digital [5.1]

    English DTS [5.1]

    English Jar-Jar free

    English Subtitles

    French Dolby Pro Logic [2.1]

    1. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by kbeast · · Score: 1

      thats like saying he hates Dolby Digital, too... I don't think he cares what format its in to be honest with you..but he wants his THX cert on it...

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    2. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by ceesco · · Score: 1
      IIRC, Mr. Lucas isn't exactly the world's biggest fan of DTS, since his company is responsible for something called THX.

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    3. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by jmb-d · · Score: 1

      I'd pay at least double for that one.

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    4. Re:Non-Jar-Jar by krugdm · · Score: 3

      Anyone know how Jar-Jar gets translated into other languages? I mean, is it possible to make him sound as obnoxious in French or Japanese as he does in English?

  133. Disappointments by Random+Man · · Score: 1
    For the original series, the correct viewing is:
    • Episode IV, Original
    • Episode V, Original or Special
    • Episode VI, Special
    The changes to EIV were just too much. Turning Han into a PC action hero and turning Jabba into a buffoon... useless. But I think the additional effects in EVI are ok.

    Episode I was just a disappointment all around. Hey kids, the Force is activated by your mitochondria! Ugh. Hey kids, the Jedi use tricorders to detect the Force! Ugh. (Let's see... Darth Vader could feel the force in Luke while chasing him in his Tie Fighter, but Qui-Gon can walk right past Anakin without getting a tremor?) Hey kids, the Jedi regularly use their Force powers to try to cheat poor merchants on backwater planets! Ugh. Hey kids, the possibly interesting bad guy will get no lines and no character development. Ugh.

    Not to mention a story and a Ben-Hur style chariot race both devoid of interest, and rampant cultural stereotyping.

    For me, Jar-Jar was only a minor annoyance next to these catastrophes.

    When I think of how inspiring Star Wars was, the Phantom Menace just makes me angry.

    1. Re:Disappointments by thincubus · · Score: 1

      I have to completely agree with you. I would actually add the film's idiotic plot to the list of major disappointments. May be as a number one disappointment.
      Look at it this way: In nearly all decent action movies the evil blokes do their best to succeed, but (if) they lose, it's because of either bad luck or good blokes' being better. In the last episode, however, the bad bloke (senator that is) is doing his absolutely best to shoot himself in the foot (isn't he interested in using the invasion to propel himself to power?). Thus, it would seem, he must be interested in the safe passage for the princess to deliver the information about this invasion. Well, as I said, he tries to shoot himself in the foot all film long, but fails, thus achieving his actual goal. Bloody brilliant!
      I actually tend to think that Jar-Jar fellow is a clever invention. He manages to draw everyone's attention (just read the comments above) from the idiocy of the plot.

  134. View Options by ackthpt · · Score: 3
    Yeah, IV, V, & VI would rock, but question: Is there a DVD player made that has such a programmable option? I.e. Bladerunner the Directors Cut vs. the original cinema edition. Granted this would take some space, but with media improvements (we have now come to expect these, fail to give them and you a deathstar will be over to see you about it!) it's just a matter of time before all 6 episodes of Star Wars should fit on one disk, eh?

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    1. Re:View Options by chomp($shroom) · · Score: 1

      It would be nice, but who needs them on one disc? I would settle for all six on seperate discs...

  135. no region code? world wide release? by maxwells_deamon · · Score: 1
    the article says "...begin worldwide release..."

    does this mean no region code? If it is released together (time-wise) in all regions but still region coded, (and it being something that is planed ahead of time) there is no reason to region code except price control purposes!

  136. In defence of Jar Jar Binks by hyacinthus · · Score: 2

    I've said this before in another Slashdot post (a long time ago, &c.), but I'll say it again, more emphatically. Jar Jar Binks is one of the only reasons THE PHANTOM MENACE is worth watching.

    He is, at least, a unique creation. Can you say that about any other character from the movie? Anakin Skywalker has little to do aside from playing the precocious brat. Qui-Gon delivers the occasional gnomic utterance and then dies. Young Obi-Wan twirls his lightsaber now and again. Amidala is barely a character. Darth Maul reprises the Jack Palance role from SHANE. Ian McDiarmid _does_ suggest unspoken depths to Senator Palpatine, as does Pernilla August to Shmi Skywalker, but Lucas doesn't develop either character; as it is, McDiarmid and August comes across as professionals stranded among amateurs.

    But Jar Jar...he's _interesting_. Yes, he's also annoying as hell, but even this trait, in a film populated with bland nonentities, is in his favor. Consider that Jar Jar is the only major character who isn't boringly supercompetent. Think about that. There's never any question, for example, about Queen Amidala's leadership. Here's a young, very inexperienced monarch, surrounded by older (and presumably more politically experienced) advisers, making rash decisions in the face of a grave threat from a foreign power; Lucas _could_ have explored these depths, but no. Amidala is never shown as anything but a strong and righteous leader with utterly devoted advisers; she's even good with a gun, while her enemies, the Trade Federation, are weak and cowardly. Even the fight scenes are boring, because the good guys are too good. Anakin is never in any credible danger, while the lightsaber fight between Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan and Maul is more like a routine display of technical skill (and expensive special effects) than a tense battle between unevenly matched foes, as was the battle between Luke and Vader in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.

    But Jar Jar isn't supercompetent; quite the opposite. Because he doesn't always do the right thing, he actually generates a little suspense in an otherwise bland movie--is Jar Jar going to do something which wrecks everything? He comes pretty close, a couple of times.

    He's even got a bit of depth going for him, which other characters don't have. We find out he's an outcast among his own people, and yet later he says to Amidala, "We're not going down without a fight. Gungans have a _grand_ army." There's something touching about this outcast still retaining a sense of pride for the people who have rejected him.

    And it's quite clear that the computer animators who created Jar Jar went ridiculously overboard; Jar Jar never stops moving, and even asleep, he's prey to involuntary gestures and nervous tics. But I found even this endearing. At least Jar Jar is never boring to watch.

    I think the real reason so many geeks loathe Jar Jar (as loudly and as excessively as possible) is because he _is_ a character for the children. Geeks hate children--having been, in many instances I suppose, children so recently themselves. I'm reminded of J. Michael Straczynski and "Babylon 5"; fanboys of that show delightfully took to heart JMS's avowed "no children" policy. But what was the point of that? It didn't make B5 any better a program.

    Anyway, up with Jar Jar Binks, I say. I hope that, despite the tremendous amount of vitriol flung in his direction after the release of THE PHANTOM MENACE, Lucas brings him back for the sequels. It would be almost a wise a decision as would be Lucas's committing Episode II to the hands of a different writer.

    hyacinthus.

  137. I'm waiting... by SpotBug · · Score: 1



    ...until next year when Lucas releases the Episode I, ultra-special edition DVD with 8 deleted scenes included.

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  138. Formats by necrognome · · Score: 1

    Will there be a "Kill Jar Jar" format in addition to widescreen and TV?

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  139. Great... by KagakuNinja · · Score: 1

    5 extra hours of Jar Jar...

  140. Extra Bonus materials by Ska-Baby · · Score: 2

    Well I've been dying for Star Wars to come out on DVD for a long time...but i'm NOT going to buy this two disc set. WHY? Because lucas has already announced he has plans for a special boxed set. I keep hearing these responses saying "why oh why doesn't lucas include The Phantom Edit, or the extra seens branched into the movie?" The answer to this is simple guys, he's going to put it all in later so everyone who buys now will want to buy another edition later. Come on now doesn't anyone remember the twenty different VHS boxed set lucas released for the original Star Wars Trilogy?

  141. Took em long enough by DaHat · · Score: 1

    I'll probably buy a copy, but I still think that George Lucus is a sniviling little baby still. This has helped a small amount to make things better.

  142. Re:Additional material by Coryoth · · Score: 1
    plus a second version that's identical except for having *no special effects* (i.e., all blue screen).


    Cool, long 5 minute sequences of utterly blue screen. That'll be worth it...


    Jedidiah

  143. As For VHS by nexex · · Score: 1

    I think we should FedEx all the VHS copies of Episode I to George Lucas's house and ask for a free DVD of it, since we already own the license to watch it. Or he should just put DeCSS on the disc for easy copying.

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  144. THX is not a sound format. by brujito · · Score: 3

    TXH is more like a certification. THX people test the picture and sound if it meets their criteria they give it THX certification. DTS can have THX, and DD too. If you have the terminator 2 ultimate edition. You can see that is THX mastered, and it contains both DD and DTS.

    1. Re:THX is not a sound format. by prismatic · · Score: 2

      according to product specs (i can't remember the brand, and am too lazy to research it), every THX capable home unit was capable of 7.2 point surround sound (as opposed to 5.1). i got the information from crutchfield, so be sure and remember your salt.
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    2. Re:THX is not a sound format. by webba · · Score: 1

      This (7.x) is for future expansions of the DD format (and presumably DTS if speilberg so chooses), THX itself is _NOT_ a format, you will _NOT_ be finding any "7.2 THX" listings on DVDs anytime soon, THX is a mastering/playback certification/ruleset, nothing more, nothing less.

  145. Hurray! by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    And then we wonder why the enterteinment industry do with their costumers as they wish. Here we are (not me, mind you), rushing to buy in droves a DVD (region coded, fair use locked out) of a lame movie whose lamest parts are now included and pandered as something of interest.

    If there were impresionable not thinking children the ones that were rushing, fair enough. Buth technologicaly minded, educated people rushing to get this crap is unexcusable.

    Go and get a VHS version if you need to see this crap again so badly, otherwise refrain please to never ever again to say how evil DVD is, the reality is that most people (as shown by the posts relating to this article) want to be screwed and will pay for the privilege.

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  146. What the Fucking Pooh by BBowden18 · · Score: 1

    Fuck Phantom - Where in the Hell are 4, 5, and 6 on DVD? Georgie is putting the cart before the horse.... If we are all lucky - in the new Indiana Jones movie Indi puts a slug in JarJars Head.

  147. Re:I Hope So =) Think About It .. by Rogerborg · · Score: 2
    • Since Jar Jar never made an appearance in the first 3 movies (IV, V, and VI), we KNOW he has to die in the next two movies somewhere

    As long as George is raping our dreams... *cough* Boba Fett *cough*

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  148. I noticed something by Joey7F · · Score: 1

    Mod this insightful

    Remember the rumors that Lucas would release an "untouched DVD" meaning you would get TPM in all its blue screen glory.

    Not only would this have been interesting...

    but now that the phantom edit is making the rounds, Lucas knows the capabilities of the fans would be greatly improved to swap out effects (such as Jar Jar) and change back grounds.

    --Joey

  149. this is cool and all..... by imabmf · · Score: 1

    This is cool and all for starwars fans, but what about something really impportant like the release of the Simpsons Collection, that would be news.

  150. Re:Additional material by BIGJIMSLATE · · Score: 2

    Wow...glad you know how to copy and paste from a press release. :p

  151. Hidden treasure by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    Maybe the six hours contains the real Episode I that wasn't shown in theaters and is a whole lot better. Crafty Lucas, making us think he'd gone insane...

  152. Lucas is freakin GREEDY by Jesus+IS+the+Devil · · Score: 1

    Why didn't George Luca$ release the DVD long ago when the VHS version came out? I can only guess that this bastard wanted to force the fans to buy the movie TWICE, first the vhs since they have no choice, and then the DVD for the cherry on top.



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  153. subtitles mean - we can understand jar-jar? by mkbz · · Score: 1

    i wonder how they're going to subtitle this movie - do they translate jarjar's jive into real english or do they make them look like the transcriptionist is typing on a broken keyboard?

  154. Re:Additional material by krugdm · · Score: 5
    Here's what you get:
    • Seven never-before-seen deleted scenes with full visual effects completed just for the DVD release
    • The Beginning - an all-new hour-long documentary culled from over 600 hours of footage offering unprecedented access inside Lucasfilm and ILM during the making of Episode I
    • Multi-angle storyboard-to-animatic-to-finished-film feature, that lets you flip through the various phases of development of key action sequences
    • Five behind-the-scenes featurettes exploring The Phantom Menace's storyline, designs, costumes, visual effects and fight scenes
    • The popular Duel of the Fates music video that debuted in 1999
    • All 12 parts of the Lynne's Diaries, the web documentaries that first appeared at starwars.com
    • Galleries of theatrical posters, print campaign, and never-before-scene production photos
    • The original theatrical teaser and launch trailers, plus seven TV spots including the "tone poems"
    Not all that bad, really. Enough to keep a Star Wars fan happy for some time.
  155. Re:When you all rush out and buy this MPAA movie.. by gamgee5273 · · Score: 1

    Phffff ... what's the EFF ever done for us? Well, there's the aquaducts...

  156. Star Wars Trilogy on DVD by CaptTrips · · Score: 1

    You can preorder them now from Amazon...

    Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi

    And let's not forget that this movie and this movie are also coming out on DVD. Isn't life grand?

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  157. With ANTI-JarJar Features I Hope... by IBitOBear · · Score: 1
    Well, if the DVD has an option on the "special features" menu to opaque over JarJar then this might be worth it.

    If not that, then at least an "english translation" option under the languages menu for rasta-frog would be mandatory.

    But I suppose listening to the directors comentary might be fun. Just a lot of "Oh, sorry aobut that"s and a few "well we needed some filler action and had some CGI budget left" comentaries just *HAVE* to be in there if he were honest.

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  158. Re:With ANTI-JarJar Features I Hope...(CORRECTION) by IBitOBear · · Score: 1
    Pardon, his full official designation:
    Floppy the Junior Rasta-Frog

    You know you are pushing the envelope when you decide that your plucky commic relief should only be funny to audience members that can obtain a print of the film and run it backwards.

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  159. multiple audio by nilstar · · Score: 1

    With all those multiple audio tracks a dvd can have, one question begs to be answered. Do they have a wookie soundtrak? Better yet, one translated in ewok? :)

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  160. Star Wars Episode 4-5-6 already on DVD by NoizZz · · Score: 1

    Yes, you can get SW 4-5-6 on DVD... from Hong Kong. Check it out.... i'm not kidding.

  161. Scriptable DVD player by Secret+Coward · · Score: 1

    The DMCA aside, couldn't someone make a scriptable DVD player, then distribute a script that would simply play the Phantom Edit version? Complete with voice-overs?

  162. well that's dumb by spacefem · · Score: 2

    I told everybody who asked that I was waiting to buy a DVD player until Episode I came out, now I'm not so excited. A double DVD? Wow, so I can spend $50 on a movie, that's pretty exciting. There's a point when being a fan and a money machine have to go their seperate ways, I think I just hit that.

  163. Don't encourage him... by Smid · · Score: 1

    It was crap. The original movies were barely watchable, its people harking back to their youth...

    I never understood why people complained so much, Lucas is simply a childrens moviemaker...

    Don't encourage him...

    Smid

  164. Additional material by Violet+Null · · Score: 1

    6 hours of additional material, and 7 additional scenes?

    So we're obviously not talking about 6 hours of additional _movie_ material (like, say, exposition or the like). We're talking maybe half an hour to an hour of deleted scenes and then five hours of...what?

    The mind boggles at the thought. Five hours of interviews? Five hours of Lucas explaining how Jar-Jar really is a good idea? Five hours of explaining how the digital scenes were worked on, instead of a script? I'm really quite curious.

  165. Criterion by Taskmaster+Panik+2 · · Score: 5
    This DVD will only achieve the mildly amusing level if there is commentary by Jar-Jar included.

    "Meesa think dis movie stinky."

  166. Re: Top reason for a PC instead . . . not by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

    Your arguments are, shall we say, slightly broken, for the following reasons:

    1. FireWire imports are less of a hassle on Mac equipment. No hacking with the innards required.
    2. All Macs come with iMovie2 and iDVD editing sowtware for free. If you still want to buy professional software, (you did pay for Premiere, right?) then you'd be better off with Final Cut Pro. Adobe Premiere may be good, but it's just not the choice of most video professionals.
    3. The Apple hardware components are consistently of a better quality than the average PC. This is probably the biggest reason why Classic Mac OS crashes less than Win9x. It's not less buggy, but the equipment it steers isn't as quirky.

    In short, you can use a PC, if you're willing to jump through hoops, waste time tweaking settings and whatnot. But if you just want to get your work done...

    Get a Mac.

  167. Re: Top reason why AC's like PC's by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 1

    I think you just made my argument for me.

    The Mac isn't all that better, but it has the Edge in cost-effectiveness and from-the-box usability. Sure, the average /.'er can do all of this with Linux or Windows, but it all means "some assembly required".

    Once more, the argument in a nutshell:
    If you like to fiddle around, get a mainstream PC.
    If you just want to get the job done, get a Mac.

  168. What is Really Missing by count123 · · Score: 2
    Damn damn damn!
    I wait all this time for the computer-enhanced DVD just so I can get that Jar-Jar replacement for Clippy in Office, and what do they do... ditch the office assistant!

    Really, what else could be more helpful that Jar-Jar appearing and giving you advice:
    Meysa thinksa yousa spella lika shitta
    Oh, you wanta to fax? Jar-Jar will fax for you [and never arrives](covers up that nice fax-eating bug)
    Oh, yousa wanna mail-merge? Isa don't think yousa should do that
    Upon an illegal operation: "boomed da gasser, and crashed de boss's heyblibber, den banished."

    Maybe even some cute little actions... people buy the software for the cute little actions (hell, people buy an imac because it looks like a yo-yo)

    And let's not forget easter eggs:
    "Isa tella what, Queen Amidala lika my tongue"
    Jar-jar dances and sticks his tongue out while that macro virus trashes your files
    And lastly: A quick image showing the true nature of evil - A pic of vader fading into a pic of the pengiun...

  169. Yeah and he also promised that SWTPM wouldn't suck by Gazelem · · Score: 1

    :)

  170. No DTS by Glenn2372 · · Score: 1

    Actually, the chances that DTS will be on there are about slim to none. Lucas has this little thing called THX he'd rather have you listen to.

  171. Lucas not an open source enemy by Glenn2372 · · Score: 1

    George Lucas isn't the big Open Source enemy that you let on. ILM has for sometime been using primarily Linux for it's rendering, and has recently begun using Linux for it's workstations. Apparently he supports enough to use it.

  172. Ack by HerbertHill · · Score: 1

    What a piece of trash.. ah, i suppose i'll buy it

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