You only pay if you wish to release software via the App Store for the iPhone/iPad.
I think that is kinda the point. Sure if you're a teenager and code just for fun (man I loved those years!) it's ok, but Apple limiting it like this only gives a good stance for people trying to milk cash from Apple customers (and Apple taking their "fair" share too)
And I keep wondering what the fuck he is thinking. Adobe and Photoshop and their other products are what made Macs popular in graphics/video editing departments. Jobs must have lost his mind.
It's $99 a year. Also you are required to buy Mac OSX which seriously brings up the price.
If I want to develop for Linux, I can write the full code in Windows and compile it too. If I want to develop for Windows, I can write the full code in Linux and compile it too. What about Mac OSX?
Throw away all that hypocrisy where Steve Jobs said H.264 is "open, free and non-proprietary", and their "humble" goal to open up the internet (while their devices are closed as hell), and welcome to the masterplan. It's not about open standards or supporting HTML5 (and funnily closed H.264), it's because Apple wants to compete with Adobe. Talk about backstabbing, at least I knew Mac's because artists always used a Mac with earlier Photoshops.
Obviously you can only develop software for this Flash-lookalike using Macs and if you want to develop for iPhone or iPad you are required to buy a pricy developers license. So much for hobbyist creating interesting programs and fun games? It makes perfect sense now why Apple doesn't want to allow even cross-compiled apps.
Get ready for Apple fanbois coming in and commenting on this on why it's "innovative" and why suddenly "Apple shouldn't support HTML5".
This is just a bad idea... even worse than letting people like me post on Slashdot.
Exactly, and who will develop these technologies and put millions in to them if they can't get it back and/or profit from it? Isn't that exactly why US has had such innovative technology industry which promotes the basic idea of American capitalism? Now you want to take it away?
Well, do you honestly think that iPad will sell 40 millions units a year and keep it up? I don't. Besides, iPad has been out over a month now and is still only at 1 million units, and half of those are preorders. If iPad would be killing netbooks sales, it has some catching up to do.
You all do know that the statistics are based on voluntary reports from the buyers? Therefore it makes a lot more sense for Linux users to fill that to promote Linux along the way. Windows users will just download the game and never fill the "what OS you use form"
* I did also buy that package, it has great games. But please do not delude yourself.
Sorry, but if the game is good, I want to play it when it's released. That's also when there are most players in online gameplay. I have actual problems to worry about in life, and if Steam or any other DRM works good enough (Steam hell yes does), I rather just play the game than worry about some thing like that. And I'm a geek, so do you think gamers or casual people will start worrying about it instead of just playing the game?
Actually, no one has ever published statistics saying its lost sales. The statistics that have been published are how many pirates vs. customers the game has, and those have been accurate.
the average pirate downloads a lot more games than the average customer buys. This means that even though games see that 80% of their copies are pirated, only 10% of their potential customers are pirates, which means they are losing at most 10% of their sales.
However that still doesn't change the fact that they are using a product they have no right to. It's not even the old "they just download it for the sake of it, they don't actually play them", since these are measured by submitting high scores to the game's server.
If the average pirate downloads a lot more games than an average customer buys, it just means that they're hardcore players and techies. You know, the group that here on slashdot is mad about casual games taking over more interesting games. Maybe it wouldn't if everyone would buy them? Casual people don't go pirating so easily.
The more interesting question is, why do these people think they're somehow obligated to take something that doesn't belong to them and without pay? Even if it isn't a lost sale, they haven't paid the author for the right to use it. That isn't right.
Barely any profit? They get 30% from all the sales. All of it free no-work money, because developers make them and take the risks.
In top of that the App Stores enable them to sell developer licenses ($99/year) and Apple computers, because every developer has to use Apple tools. Even if you have no interest in a Mac, you have to get them to yourself or your developers anyway.
It also makes sense with Flash games. Apple has tons of games it sells in the market place. If people could just play free Flash games (and there would be a lot more of them created), Apple wouldn't get so much $$$$$.
I know someone comes to say that most Flash games require mouse and keyboard, but that doesn't make any sense. Obviously the games would be created specially for iPhone and iPad. Just like theres such Flash games for Wii.
Why would YouTube want to destroy their image by bullying its users? It would affect what they think about them - people aren't retards you know.
On top of that all the HTML5 video players are clunky and so is YouTube's current one too. It would also mean H.264 victory over Theora, since YouTube is currently using H.264 with their HTML5 player. Not that Theora will still win anyway.
There is a plugin system. The summary is about what IE9 will support by default (and it makes sense because H.264 is built-in within Win7). Plugins can support the other formats like Theora.
This is actually the same thing that has been said in the older HTML5 discussions on slashdot too.
Ideologically Theora would be great. It's open and patent-free (supposedly). But it's not as good as H.264. We have already used H.264 with Flash and MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 from MPEG LA. It hasn't created any problems and its technically better. It would be better to have an open source and free codec, but people need to work to create it. Ideology doesn't go far in corporate world, and in my honest opinion, H.264 is better for end-user because it uses less bandwidth and provides better quality and is supported in a lot more devices already.
If MPEG LA would start asking website owners and end-users for fees it would basically mean this was their last iteration in video codecs. MPEG LA also uses patents owned by other companies, so they have a saying over it. I don't think they would be that stupid.
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I think you are wrong too. Your opinion is based on what western newspapers write. Every country with a huge amount of population has bad people and those are the things that get in to news. Just like US in the other stories.
I personally have lived in Russia for a few years. I don't even talk Russian, and everyone helped me in stores, metro stations, bank and local kiosks. Always when I went to store I could communicate with the cashier by using hand marks and she was helpful and smiled. That wouldn't happen in Sweden - everyone is way too racist towards foreign people and it looks like US has the same mentality. When I was getting a local mobile contract an older women came to help me as the seller didn't understand English. She neither didn't understand most of the things I tried to say, but still a small amount, and she tried to help me and because of her I understood what I was getting. And she was a random person on the street that took 10 mins of her time to help me, even without asking her to. Same thing with a guy in the near kiosk that translated the prices to English when he saw I didn't understand the language. I have a lot of more examples from the time I was living there, but you'll probably understand.
I personally think Russian people, in general, are a lot more friendly than American. They really will help a stranger if there is a need to. I wouldn't say the same about Americans, who would probably just joke and make fun of a person needing help. Do you think I would get the same nice help in the US?
Try living there for a moment before judging all the people.
"without effective intellectual property protection": 4 300 million people in the other countries around the world
If USA is the country that promotes democracy, doesn't this thing kind of say that the rest of the world does not want US IP and patent laws dictated to the them, and that US should respect it? Just like real democracy.
It looks like ~87% of people in the world doesn't like or want ACTA. Why does US push it to other countries, and why is it done with so secret methods?
While my country also does have good copyright laws, I don't want US to dictate us.
For once I actually think the service will stay as it is. Opera's business isn't offering mail services, but their web browser contain mail functionality, and Opera has a good track record of a good company. What it seems to be is that they're looking to have a specific email provider in the browser, and buying Fastmail.fm is great for that.
It's an endless battle with APK. He has done this same thing in several other slashdot stories. He thinks I am Clone too, or for that matter anyone is who tells him how ridiculous this all is.
When he answers to this post, he will say I'm Clone because I followed a link to an earlier thread and posted a "lol at this conversation" there as a last comment just before the story closed. After that APK followed me for days and harassed me about that comment, claiming I was Clone and that I was out there to fight him.
And like noted in that thread too, if Slashdot didn't close the comments after a while, he could go on for years, like he has done in this single article for the past 6 years with himself. The last comment from APK is from 3/15/2010. The article was released December 30, 2003.
TrueCrypt is great for hard drive or file encryption, but PGP does a lot more than that like email encryption, digital signatures, certificates and the "web of trust" feature.
Believe or not, Apple actually responded to this. "Someone has it backwards," spokeswoman Trudy Muller said in her statement to Cnet. "It is HTML5, CSS, JavaScript, and H.264 (all supported by the iPhone and iPad) that are open and standard, while Adobe's Flash is closed and proprietary."
You may support Apple's decision to ban Flash from the iPhone and the iPad. You may agree with Steve Jobs when he calls it "buggy," littered with security holes, and a "CPU hog". You may favor a web built on open standards. But surely only Apple can convince itself that such open standards include H.264.
Not to mention the fact that its statement doesn't address Adobe's issue. But it actually released a statement. Really.
Tacky that his first point is that Flash is proprietary, when Apple restricts the apps that can be installed on the phone. Pot, meet kettle.
Exactly, and the software/iPhone is not only proprietary, but actually restricted too. It's even worse than just proprietary software.
- Open source: Nobody restricts where you can install the application, and you get the source code too -- the best situation. - Proprierary software: You dont get the source code, but nobody is restricting where or if you can install it, as long as its freeware or you have paid for it. - Apple: Not only will you not get the source code and in most cases you have to pay for it, Apple is in total control what applications the user is allowed to install. They dont even give you the option to decide yourself.
If you want to sell your software in App Store, you are not allowed to redistribute the source code or your app outside of it.
While certainly true, making a comment about Flash being proprietary is just hypocrisy and at the same time hilarious from Steve Jobs and Apple.
You should also file a complaint at your own national consumer agency. I asked the store I bought my PS3 from to restore the Other OS function or offer a refund on the product because the ability was stated in the box. In this case the seller is breaking the law if such stated features are later removed.
They initially refused to offer a refund, so I filed a complaint to the consumer agency. It's important you try to talk with the seller first, and if both parties don't come into a good conclusion, then file a report. They contacted the seller, who then again contacted me and asked me to return the PS3 and they would give me a full refund.
I'm sure stores will first try to say that they cannot offer a refund and it's up to Sony, but if law states they are liable, just take it a bit further and you will get a refund. It will teach Sony a lesson too.
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You only pay if you wish to release software via the App Store for the iPhone/iPad.
I think that is kinda the point. Sure if you're a teenager and code just for fun (man I loved those years!) it's ok, but Apple limiting it like this only gives a good stance for people trying to milk cash from Apple customers (and Apple taking their "fair" share too)
Steve HATES Adobe.
And I keep wondering what the fuck he is thinking. Adobe and Photoshop and their other products are what made Macs popular in graphics/video editing departments. Jobs must have lost his mind.
It's $99 a year. Also you are required to buy Mac OSX which seriously brings up the price.
If I want to develop for Linux, I can write the full code in Windows and compile it too. If I want to develop for Windows, I can write the full code in Linux and compile it too. What about Mac OSX?
I doubt it does much good. Apple has taken it stance, and they have a very clear reason to do so: Apple is building a replacement for Flash.
Throw away all that hypocrisy where Steve Jobs said H.264 is "open, free and non-proprietary", and their "humble" goal to open up the internet (while their devices are closed as hell), and welcome to the masterplan. It's not about open standards or supporting HTML5 (and funnily closed H.264), it's because Apple wants to compete with Adobe. Talk about backstabbing, at least I knew Mac's because artists always used a Mac with earlier Photoshops.
Obviously you can only develop software for this Flash-lookalike using Macs and if you want to develop for iPhone or iPad you are required to buy a pricy developers license. So much for hobbyist creating interesting programs and fun games? It makes perfect sense now why Apple doesn't want to allow even cross-compiled apps.
Get ready for Apple fanbois coming in and commenting on this on why it's "innovative" and why suddenly "Apple shouldn't support HTML5".
This is just a bad idea ... even worse than letting people like me post on Slashdot.
Exactly, and who will develop these technologies and put millions in to them if they can't get it back and/or profit from it? Isn't that exactly why US has had such innovative technology industry which promotes the basic idea of American capitalism? Now you want to take it away?
Well, do you honestly think that iPad will sell 40 millions units a year and keep it up? I don't. Besides, iPad has been out over a month now and is still only at 1 million units, and half of those are preorders. If iPad would be killing netbooks sales, it has some catching up to do.
You all do know that the statistics are based on voluntary reports from the buyers? Therefore it makes a lot more sense for Linux users to fill that to promote Linux along the way. Windows users will just download the game and never fill the "what OS you use form"
* I did also buy that package, it has great games. But please do not delude yourself.
Sorry, but if the game is good, I want to play it when it's released. That's also when there are most players in online gameplay. I have actual problems to worry about in life, and if Steam or any other DRM works good enough (Steam hell yes does), I rather just play the game than worry about some thing like that. And I'm a geek, so do you think gamers or casual people will start worrying about it instead of just playing the game?
Actually, no one has ever published statistics saying its lost sales. The statistics that have been published are how many pirates vs. customers the game has, and those have been accurate.
the average pirate downloads a lot more games than the average customer buys. This means that even though games see that 80% of their copies are pirated, only 10% of their potential customers are pirates, which means they are losing at most 10% of their sales.
However that still doesn't change the fact that they are using a product they have no right to. It's not even the old "they just download it for the sake of it, they don't actually play them", since these are measured by submitting high scores to the game's server.
If the average pirate downloads a lot more games than an average customer buys, it just means that they're hardcore players and techies. You know, the group that here on slashdot is mad about casual games taking over more interesting games. Maybe it wouldn't if everyone would buy them? Casual people don't go pirating so easily.
The more interesting question is, why do these people think they're somehow obligated to take something that doesn't belong to them and without pay? Even if it isn't a lost sale, they haven't paid the author for the right to use it. That isn't right.
Barely any profit? They get 30% from all the sales. All of it free no-work money, because developers make them and take the risks.
In top of that the App Stores enable them to sell developer licenses ($99/year) and Apple computers, because every developer has to use Apple tools. Even if you have no interest in a Mac, you have to get them to yourself or your developers anyway.
It also makes sense with Flash games. Apple has tons of games it sells in the market place. If people could just play free Flash games (and there would be a lot more of them created), Apple wouldn't get so much $$$$$.
I know someone comes to say that most Flash games require mouse and keyboard, but that doesn't make any sense. Obviously the games would be created specially for iPhone and iPad. Just like theres such Flash games for Wii.
Why would YouTube want to destroy their image by bullying its users? It would affect what they think about them - people aren't retards you know.
On top of that all the HTML5 video players are clunky and so is YouTube's current one too. It would also mean H.264 victory over Theora, since YouTube is currently using H.264 with their HTML5 player. Not that Theora will still win anyway.
There is a plugin system. The summary is about what IE9 will support by default (and it makes sense because H.264 is built-in within Win7). Plugins can support the other formats like Theora.
I guess he is mostly talking about .mkv support, not H.264 per se.
This is actually the same thing that has been said in the older HTML5 discussions on slashdot too.
Ideologically Theora would be great. It's open and patent-free (supposedly). But it's not as good as H.264. We have already used H.264 with Flash and MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 from MPEG LA. It hasn't created any problems and its technically better. It would be better to have an open source and free codec, but people need to work to create it. Ideology doesn't go far in corporate world, and in my honest opinion, H.264 is better for end-user because it uses less bandwidth and provides better quality and is supported in a lot more devices already.
If MPEG LA would start asking website owners and end-users for fees it would basically mean this was their last iteration in video codecs. MPEG LA also uses patents owned by other companies, so they have a saying over it. I don't think they would be that stupid.
I think you are wrong too. Your opinion is based on what western newspapers write. Every country with a huge amount of population has bad people and those are the things that get in to news. Just like US in the other stories.
I personally have lived in Russia for a few years. I don't even talk Russian, and everyone helped me in stores, metro stations, bank and local kiosks. Always when I went to store I could communicate with the cashier by using hand marks and she was helpful and smiled. That wouldn't happen in Sweden - everyone is way too racist towards foreign people and it looks like US has the same mentality. When I was getting a local mobile contract an older women came to help me as the seller didn't understand English. She neither didn't understand most of the things I tried to say, but still a small amount, and she tried to help me and because of her I understood what I was getting. And she was a random person on the street that took 10 mins of her time to help me, even without asking her to. Same thing with a guy in the near kiosk that translated the prices to English when he saw I didn't understand the language. I have a lot of more examples from the time I was living there, but you'll probably understand.
I personally think Russian people, in general, are a lot more friendly than American. They really will help a stranger if there is a need to. I wouldn't say the same about Americans, who would probably just joke and make fun of a person needing help. Do you think I would get the same nice help in the US?
Try living there for a moment before judging all the people.
309 million people in the US
compared to
"without effective intellectual property protection":
4 300 million people in the other countries around the world
If USA is the country that promotes democracy, doesn't this thing kind of say that the rest of the world does not want US IP and patent laws dictated to the them, and that US should respect it? Just like real democracy.
It looks like ~87% of people in the world doesn't like or want ACTA. Why does US push it to other countries, and why is it done with so secret methods?
While my country also does have good copyright laws, I don't want US to dictate us.
For once I actually think the service will stay as it is. Opera's business isn't offering mail services, but their web browser contain mail functionality, and Opera has a good track record of a good company. What it seems to be is that they're looking to have a specific email provider in the browser, and buying Fastmail.fm is great for that.
It's an endless battle with APK. He has done this same thing in several other slashdot stories. He thinks I am Clone too, or for that matter anyone is who tells him how ridiculous this all is.
When he answers to this post, he will say I'm Clone because I followed a link to an earlier thread and posted a "lol at this conversation" there as a last comment just before the story closed. After that APK followed me for days and harassed me about that comment, claiming I was Clone and that I was out there to fight him.
And like noted in that thread too, if Slashdot didn't close the comments after a while, he could go on for years, like he has done in this single article for the past 6 years with himself. The last comment from APK is from 3/15/2010. The article was released December 30, 2003.
TrueCrypt is great for hard drive or file encryption, but PGP does a lot more than that like email encryption, digital signatures, certificates and the "web of trust" feature.
It means hold on to your current PGP versions.
I wont be trusting Symantec with it.
What are good open source alternatives?
Flash is a standard too, actually. There are open source projects that implement the standard.
But the comment this was made about isn't even really about Flash. It was originally about Adobe tools that allowed developers to code with Flash and compile to native code that runs on iPhone.
Believe or not, Apple actually responded to this. "Someone has it backwards," spokeswoman Trudy Muller said in her statement to Cnet. "It is HTML5, CSS, JavaScript, and H.264 (all supported by the iPhone and iPad) that are open and standard, while Adobe's Flash is closed and proprietary."
You may support Apple's decision to ban Flash from the iPhone and the iPad. You may agree with Steve Jobs when he calls it "buggy," littered with security holes, and a "CPU hog". You may favor a web built on open standards. But surely only Apple can convince itself that such open standards include H.264.
Not to mention the fact that its statement doesn't address Adobe's issue. But it actually released a statement. Really.
Tacky that his first point is that Flash is proprietary, when Apple restricts the apps that can be installed on the phone. Pot, meet kettle.
Exactly, and the software/iPhone is not only proprietary, but actually restricted too. It's even worse than just proprietary software.
- Open source: Nobody restricts where you can install the application, and you get the source code too -- the best situation.
- Proprierary software: You dont get the source code, but nobody is restricting where or if you can install it, as long as its freeware or you have paid for it.
- Apple: Not only will you not get the source code and in most cases you have to pay for it, Apple is in total control what applications the user is allowed to install. They dont even give you the option to decide yourself.
If you want to sell your software in App Store, you are not allowed to redistribute the source code or your app outside of it.
While certainly true, making a comment about Flash being proprietary is just hypocrisy and at the same time hilarious from Steve Jobs and Apple.
You should also file a complaint at your own national consumer agency. I asked the store I bought my PS3 from to restore the Other OS function or offer a refund on the product because the ability was stated in the box. In this case the seller is breaking the law if such stated features are later removed.
They initially refused to offer a refund, so I filed a complaint to the consumer agency. It's important you try to talk with the seller first, and if both parties don't come into a good conclusion, then file a report. They contacted the seller, who then again contacted me and asked me to return the PS3 and they would give me a full refund.
I'm sure stores will first try to say that they cannot offer a refund and it's up to Sony, but if law states they are liable, just take it a bit further and you will get a refund. It will teach Sony a lesson too.