I'm not sure how the license ID number system works, but since I'm not in the USA it means I would have to scan my passport and send it to some registrar where some random guy will check it and which maybe leads to identify theft too. I'm not comfortable with that, and besides that it's just stupid to send a scan of your passport over email or internet. How long would it take that someone would start doing identify theft with such system?
Like with any other online multiplayer game. Savage 2 had some learning curve, but I actually liked the game mechanics and there really wasn't any asshole players but everyone played nicely. New players of course, but people weren't harsh to them either. However the initial learning curve probably had something to do with it too, but its a fun game.
where someone's personal information needs to be found out, can't it be found out via a court order if a crime is suspected?
Yes and the privacy services almost always state this in terms of service too, as well as removing the service in case of spamming and so on.
Spammers and others just use fakes names anyway, so privacy registration doesn't change anything regarding that, but providers better privacy for real people.
In my opinion better balance would be based on if the individual is a person or a company. I do not want my personal information like name, address, phone number and so on all over the internet. Even if the site contains ads on it.
On the other hand having your company info available in whois is quite an non-matter, theres public records available already and it doesn't break any individuals privacy.
It's not really lying. They're demonstrating what features the product will have and what it will look like. Usually the actual look, while being looked early in art division, comes into the complete package later on. The actual prototype hardware isn't "pretty" to show off its without packaging.
Thats why companies make models they can show off while having the actual hardware elsewhere to show off. The purpose of these conferences is to show off what kind of product you will have. But obviously the slashdotters living in their basements dont understand how producting and getting investors, marketers and press with you works.
And even more so, we are on a tech news site and you cry about the appearance of the product. The technical details are the interesting ones!
Because products in development are never like the final versions. That is because they are in development. But people in these conferences like to see something physical, so its better to make up something that looks like the final product along with telling about the features.
If the upcoming product shown in these conferences would be the final version, why aren't they selling it already?
Exactly. What is the point of this "news" anyway? Lots of times companies build something that looks kinda like the product but isn't it. This was same with Wii on E3 too before it was released. It wasn't the actual Wii at all.
The purpose is to show off their new products that are coming. Sure, they could you just have a paper that lists the features. But as people are physically there, they might like to see something too. If it's not fully build yet, they have to make up a prototype to show. It doesn't really change anything with the product - when it gets out, reviewers will tell if it sucks then.
After PatrikWeb dropped routing their packets last night, it seems their fail-safe system kicked in and started routing most of the traffic via Ukraine. Then all these news sites picked up the story unintelligently that they've moved to Ukraine, without actually knowing how routing works at ISP level. But this is probably TPB's guys purpose - yeah lots of people just point to their ip and fail to see how it works in deeper levels. The pirate bay guys aren't stupid at all and its actually funny they're able to pull out this kind of infrastructure to support their site:)
This is not interesting, but insightful. Google has to follow DMCA law, which means they have to remove links when copyright holders send their request. While I hate Google's all-over-the-internet datamining, in this case it's not Google's fault but DMCA's.
Before more and more people jump in with their stupid whois links domain->ip links saying "look, their ip is 194.71.107.15 and its in sweden"...
TPB is hosted on their owners own AS and ip block "DCPNetworks" which is one of the couple ones they have. It's info is registered to be in Stockholm, Sweden, but its manual info given to RIPE. It doesn't mean its physically there. More so, it could had been there but moved elsewhere later. Lots of people seem to think these geolocations are some magical system to determine exactly where ip location is, but it's all based on manually typed in info when you register with RIPE or other registreries.
What you have to look at is their upstream providers. robtex shows still the old info too. More so, my own look up goes to amsterdam and leaseweb as their last upstream provider.
Actually this seems to be a fail over system of theirs. PatrikWeb, their only upstream besides DCS and SPACEDUMP, stopped providing bandwidth so their fail safe system kicked in and started providing bandwidth in Ukraine when one of their upstream providers stopped routing. They probably have more providers in place too to pick up quickly.
It's an intelligent system and not a surprise that those who haven't looked into BGP and routing more dont understand what's going on and just point out that the IP space is registered in sweden and dont see it can actually be located anywhere.
Am I the only only one who doesn't like that everyone all the time know what I am doing, if i'm online or if i'm available for a chat? Or whatever other people are doing. I abandoned MSN messenger for that sole purpose a few years ago, and facebook too.
There's a lot of socializing time already even without having all these apps on your computer too. I do have instant messaging for my work, but those people *know* when it's the right time to msg me and they're doing so for a good reason - not just to ask "whats up dude?"
It's nice to have some peace sometimes, and computer is a really nice way for that. I dont want all the contacts and people bothering me when I just want to spend some time and feel relaxed.
Man this sounds like an infinitely recursive loop.
And not in a bad way. If you think about the computer simulations we're been able to create in the short existence of our computer systems, it's pretty clear that someone else could had created our whole world as a simulation. Computing power is quite infinite; we're making even more and more progress all the time. And if simulation theory would be correct, we cant possibly know what kind of systems are running us.
(yeah it sounds matrix like.. but atleast it makes more sense than any religious/god crap anyway)
Well like I said, it wasn't trolling - it's just what I've been thinking and how I see it myself. I'm not really into religion myself, but nor do I believe fully into evolution theory from apes to human either. That's all they are, theories. I find it just as possible, actually even maybe more so, that the whole system could be just simulated. Like we have computer simulations, but our simulation would be just a little bit more advanced.
It's stupid to just mindlessly believe into something that the current age of technology can provide information about. At some point people believed the world was a pancake and the guy who dared to object that and said it was ball shaped (sorry, cant remember the word right now), got killed for his "disbelieving". Look at where we are now.
I'm not trying to troll or anything - but why is it so interesting to study where humans have come from and why exactly monkeys? Yeah they maybe look the most of us from all the animals, but intelligently and in other ways they're totally different.
Monkeys have come from somewhere too - maybe humans are just another race from the same point, not related to monkeys in any way.
That used to be the issue, but there has been recent studies that have discovered they're actually detecting small amount of threats too and protecting the user from them - nothing close to what real antivirus software are, but they're doing it for plausible deniability and so that it's harder to get to them with laws ("no product is perfect")
And if customers are going to get some ads, targeted are a way better - atleast its some interest to them then. Just aslong as the advertisement platforms dont break privacy too much. On that note, i'm not worried about Google's AdSense, but rather about their Analytics code being all over the web (which is *designed* to gather all the possible info about users)
Great, I haven't still even got a normal bluray player. Nor did I get HD-DVD. Seems like I might just skip it and wait for the modified player that supports this.
I did do the same thing, and it worked to for some steps - but apparently I had some incompatible version of some subsystem and it didn't work (I had homebrew before updating to 4.0 too).
I did too lots of searching and spend a few nights with it. Asked lots of people. No luck:)
Modded as troll? Come on. Apple is control freak, iPhone is a really locked up device and you can only get software from their store. On top of that they do not approve any apps that they dont like, even if there wasn't any reason for it. Best example is Google Voice and how FTC started investigating it too.
For that matter I like Windows Mobile. They will also roll out an official Store in 6.5 version, but you're still allowed to install any.cab you like and you are free to distribute your app elsewhere too, including it's source code. It's scary MS is actually supporting open source on phones more than it's competitors.
Same thing with Symbian platform. You have to get a certificate for your app so it can be installed on devices. And they do not even have an official store.
Hopefully Android will change some of that, but by far Windows Mobile has been the only actually open mobile OS.
The more interesting thing is the recent development in them - they've actually started to detect small amount of threats.
Combined with that and the fact that they aren't a virus but seemingly legitimate software makes it hard in law point of view. By far the only way to have them procedured has been about misleading marketing, which is right. But for example I installed Norton Antivirus (or the quick scanner of it to see if I had viruses). It ended up being really hard one to delete, popping up its scan from time to time and reporting me about *tracking cookies* and that I'd have to buy the full version to secure my system. Only after that it would clean my computer. Obviously I know better than that and didn't buy it, but its somewhat the same marketing tactics.
It gets more interesting when the bad guys have actually made their software to protect against some small amount of threats too. There's no law against badly working software or if antivirus engine doesn't detect 100% of threats, because none of them do.
It's a bad problem, but theres also problems with the law about it. imo misleading advertisement should have larger fines than now - not just in scareware, but everywhere, because its about misleading the customer.
It makes sence to make a virus like this. My buddy got one. It said you have a virus pay us $X for full version of Anti-Virus program to remove it. It was a real pain to remove as I remember.
I know, I have naively installed Symantec on my computer too...
You're not seeing the big picture. *Of course* this isn't about finding a personal laser printer. The submitter is *obviously* building something big... like sharks with lasers!
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Until the domain gets popular enough and there comes a disbute between you and the host.. Domain ownership is solely based on that information.
I'm not sure how the license ID number system works, but since I'm not in the USA it means I would have to scan my passport and send it to some registrar where some random guy will check it and which maybe leads to identify theft too. I'm not comfortable with that, and besides that it's just stupid to send a scan of your passport over email or internet. How long would it take that someone would start doing identify theft with such system?
Like with any other online multiplayer game. Savage 2 had some learning curve, but I actually liked the game mechanics and there really wasn't any asshole players but everyone played nicely. New players of course, but people weren't harsh to them either. However the initial learning curve probably had something to do with it too, but its a fun game.
where someone's personal information needs to be found out, can't it be found out via a court order if a crime is suspected?
Yes and the privacy services almost always state this in terms of service too, as well as removing the service in case of spamming and so on.
Spammers and others just use fakes names anyway, so privacy registration doesn't change anything regarding that, but providers better privacy for real people.
In my opinion better balance would be based on if the individual is a person or a company. I do not want my personal information like name, address, phone number and so on all over the internet. Even if the site contains ads on it.
On the other hand having your company info available in whois is quite an non-matter, theres public records available already and it doesn't break any individuals privacy.
It's not really lying. They're demonstrating what features the product will have and what it will look like. Usually the actual look, while being looked early in art division, comes into the complete package later on. The actual prototype hardware isn't "pretty" to show off its without packaging.
Thats why companies make models they can show off while having the actual hardware elsewhere to show off. The purpose of these conferences is to show off what kind of product you will have. But obviously the slashdotters living in their basements dont understand how producting and getting investors, marketers and press with you works.
And even more so, we are on a tech news site and you cry about the appearance of the product. The technical details are the interesting ones!
Because products in development are never like the final versions. That is because they are in development. But people in these conferences like to see something physical, so its better to make up something that looks like the final product along with telling about the features.
If the upcoming product shown in these conferences would be the final version, why aren't they selling it already?
Exactly. What is the point of this "news" anyway? Lots of times companies build something that looks kinda like the product but isn't it. This was same with Wii on E3 too before it was released. It wasn't the actual Wii at all.
The purpose is to show off their new products that are coming. Sure, they could you just have a paper that lists the features. But as people are physically there, they might like to see something too. If it's not fully build yet, they have to make up a prototype to show. It doesn't really change anything with the product - when it gets out, reviewers will tell if it sucks then.
And more info that shows this is indeed their fail-safe system kicking in and has absolutely nothing to with any geographical move.
Older news confirm that they have "hosting" in Holland, Russia, Ukraine and some unnamed EU country. But it seems the words are made understable for general people and ignoring that they're not actually hosted there, but TPB's own ISP gets their upstream providers via those countries.
After PatrikWeb dropped routing their packets last night, it seems their fail-safe system kicked in and started routing most of the traffic via Ukraine. Then all these news sites picked up the story unintelligently that they've moved to Ukraine, without actually knowing how routing works at ISP level. But this is probably TPB's guys purpose - yeah lots of people just point to their ip and fail to see how it works in deeper levels. The pirate bay guys aren't stupid at all and its actually funny they're able to pull out this kind of infrastructure to support their site :)
This is not interesting, but insightful. Google has to follow DMCA law, which means they have to remove links when copyright holders send their request. While I hate Google's all-over-the-internet datamining, in this case it's not Google's fault but DMCA's.
Before more and more people jump in with their stupid whois links domain->ip links saying "look, their ip is 194.71.107.15 and its in sweden"...
TPB is hosted on their owners own AS and ip block "DCPNetworks" which is one of the couple ones they have. It's info is registered to be in Stockholm, Sweden, but its manual info given to RIPE. It doesn't mean its physically there. More so, it could had been there but moved elsewhere later. Lots of people seem to think these geolocations are some magical system to determine exactly where ip location is, but it's all based on manually typed in info when you register with RIPE or other registreries.
What you have to look at is their upstream providers. robtex shows still the old info too. More so, my own look up goes to amsterdam and leaseweb as their last upstream provider.
Actually this seems to be a fail over system of theirs. PatrikWeb, their only upstream besides DCS and SPACEDUMP, stopped providing bandwidth so their fail safe system kicked in and started providing bandwidth in Ukraine when one of their upstream providers stopped routing. They probably have more providers in place too to pick up quickly.
It's an intelligent system and not a surprise that those who haven't looked into BGP and routing more dont understand what's going on and just point out that the IP space is registered in sweden and dont see it can actually be located anywhere.
Am I the only only one who doesn't like that everyone all the time know what I am doing, if i'm online or if i'm available for a chat? Or whatever other people are doing. I abandoned MSN messenger for that sole purpose a few years ago, and facebook too.
There's a lot of socializing time already even without having all these apps on your computer too. I do have instant messaging for my work, but those people *know* when it's the right time to msg me and they're doing so for a good reason - not just to ask "whats up dude?"
It's nice to have some peace sometimes, and computer is a really nice way for that. I dont want all the contacts and people bothering me when I just want to spend some time and feel relaxed.
Man this sounds like an infinitely recursive loop.
And not in a bad way. If you think about the computer simulations we're been able to create in the short existence of our computer systems, it's pretty clear that someone else could had created our whole world as a simulation. Computing power is quite infinite; we're making even more and more progress all the time. And if simulation theory would be correct, we cant possibly know what kind of systems are running us.
(yeah it sounds matrix like.. but atleast it makes more sense than any religious/god crap anyway)
Well like I said, it wasn't trolling - it's just what I've been thinking and how I see it myself. I'm not really into religion myself, but nor do I believe fully into evolution theory from apes to human either. That's all they are, theories. I find it just as possible, actually even maybe more so, that the whole system could be just simulated. Like we have computer simulations, but our simulation would be just a little bit more advanced.
It's stupid to just mindlessly believe into something that the current age of technology can provide information about. At some point people believed the world was a pancake and the guy who dared to object that and said it was ball shaped (sorry, cant remember the word right now), got killed for his "disbelieving". Look at where we are now.
You said it perfectly. Why waste time on random advertisements when you could actually get something that benefits both you and the advertiser.
I'm not trying to troll or anything - but why is it so interesting to study where humans have come from and why exactly monkeys? Yeah they maybe look the most of us from all the animals, but intelligently and in other ways they're totally different.
Monkeys have come from somewhere too - maybe humans are just another race from the same point, not related to monkeys in any way.
That used to be the issue, but there has been recent studies that have discovered they're actually detecting small amount of threats too and protecting the user from them - nothing close to what real antivirus software are, but they're doing it for plausible deniability and so that it's harder to get to them with laws ("no product is perfect")
And if customers are going to get some ads, targeted are a way better - atleast its some interest to them then. Just aslong as the advertisement platforms dont break privacy too much. On that note, i'm not worried about Google's AdSense, but rather about their Analytics code being all over the web (which is *designed* to gather all the possible info about users)
Yes, everyone knows it. But it's an another thing to actually see it (or even hear it, for that matter)
Great, I haven't still even got a normal bluray player. Nor did I get HD-DVD. Seems like I might just skip it and wait for the modified player that supports this.
I did do the same thing, and it worked to for some steps - but apparently I had some incompatible version of some subsystem and it didn't work (I had homebrew before updating to 4.0 too).
I did too lots of searching and spend a few nights with it. Asked lots of people. No luck :)
Modded as troll? Come on. Apple is control freak, iPhone is a really locked up device and you can only get software from their store. On top of that they do not approve any apps that they dont like, even if there wasn't any reason for it. Best example is Google Voice and how FTC started investigating it too.
For that matter I like Windows Mobile. They will also roll out an official Store in 6.5 version, but you're still allowed to install any .cab you like and you are free to distribute your app elsewhere too, including it's source code. It's scary MS is actually supporting open source on phones more than it's competitors.
Same thing with Symbian platform. You have to get a certificate for your app so it can be installed on devices. And they do not even have an official store.
Hopefully Android will change some of that, but by far Windows Mobile has been the only actually open mobile OS.
The more interesting thing is the recent development in them - they've actually started to detect small amount of threats.
Combined with that and the fact that they aren't a virus but seemingly legitimate software makes it hard in law point of view. By far the only way to have them procedured has been about misleading marketing, which is right. But for example I installed Norton Antivirus (or the quick scanner of it to see if I had viruses). It ended up being really hard one to delete, popping up its scan from time to time and reporting me about *tracking cookies* and that I'd have to buy the full version to secure my system. Only after that it would clean my computer. Obviously I know better than that and didn't buy it, but its somewhat the same marketing tactics.
It gets more interesting when the bad guys have actually made their software to protect against some small amount of threats too. There's no law against badly working software or if antivirus engine doesn't detect 100% of threats, because none of them do.
It's a bad problem, but theres also problems with the law about it. imo misleading advertisement should have larger fines than now - not just in scareware, but everywhere, because its about misleading the customer.
It makes sence to make a virus like this. My buddy got one. It said you have a virus pay us $X for full version of Anti-Virus program to remove it. It was a real pain to remove as I remember.
I know, I have naively installed Symantec on my computer too...
This makes it to the front page of Slashdot?
You're not seeing the big picture. *Of course* this isn't about finding a personal laser printer. The submitter is *obviously* building something big... like sharks with lasers!