Get over it. There are two major GUI libraries used today and most of the time only one or the other is used at once. Back in the day GTK+ was created because Qt wasn't Free. You can't rewrite history.
If you choose KDE, you'll mostly be using Qt apps. Or, if you run GNOME, you'll mostly be using GTK+ applications. I use all GTK+ applications from day to day and very rarely load Qt ones.
So for me, I use a total of: 1 GUI libraries. 2 if I have to open up OpenOffice.
Who's to say in Flash version 8 it will still be optional? If you chisel away people's rights little by little they won't notice as much. A great example of this is privacy in America (or lack thereof any more).
Yeah except Avant still uses Internet Explorer as its backend. All of these fixes for Firefox are for potential exploits, not something that's in the wild. It's a lot better track record than Microsoft has by far. Plus nobody's going to pay for Opera and they certainly won't put up with having ads in their browser.
If you don't want "your linux" to be "fisher-price pretty" then "go turn it the hell off in your grub menu.lst". How long does it take you to remove the splash kernel parameter? A lot less time than it does to bitch on slashdot.
I mean isn't Linux all about choice and configurability?
Why does GNOME always seem to be in a state of trying to define itself - to always be in the concept stage? Perpetually in ALPHA state.
Umm, I and countless others use GNOME on a daily basis. What makes you think it's in an alpha state? Well, except, oh, maybe if you run from CVS. So therefore KDE, XFCE, and every other project known to man is also alpha?
GNOME's mission is more defined than KDE. Their goal is provide a consistent, intuitive, and accessible interface for all users for Free (note the capital F).
KDE's mission is to... well, see who can put as many checkboxes as possible on a single page. Or maybe it's who can have the most missing icons from their application. Or is it who can clutter the menu with (again) missing icons and useless applications.
Debian seems to get along just fine. The stable branch, by its definition, does not receive new versions of software once it is released. It only receives backported security patches.
Testing and unstable, on the other hand, are more current versions of software.
In fact, even Gnome is too much like Windows; even tho it does incorporate some OS X like features as well. But it also seems too fragile and it seems to be going more along the lines of C# dev, which I'm definitely not partial to (it's a mistake guys!).
WTF? Name one piece of C# software in GNOME. Bzzzt, time's up. There's not one and probably won't be for a very, very long time, if ever.
There is software written for GNOME that uses Mono but GNOME itself is pure C.
Use http://www.morphix.org/ and make your own main module? It's basically a chroot Debian install.
You bootstrap Debian (stable, testing, unstable), pack it up into a compressed file, and plop it into your Morphix directory and generate the ISO. It can be as bare-bones as you want it to be.
You do all your work within a Debian chroot, so you get to use all the wonderful Debian tools.
If you bought insurance (what do they call it, "Complete Care" or something?) then that would fall under accidental. "Oops, I accidentally droped it" "Oops the dog knocked it off the table."
the word "Naikrovek" has always put me off. I didnt' (sic) bother even visit a "Naikrovek" because that word reminded me of a dumbass on slashdot who doesn't have anything better to do than bitch about a random name.
Let me guess, you're leading a crusade to rename the GIMP, too, aren't you?
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It used to be "I don't know about your water but mine doesn't come seasoned". Guess he changed over to flour to kick it up a notch. To give him some credit though, his show without the audience isn't too bad.
I enjoy "$40 a day" actually. I don't care for her other show where she goes and has dinner with celebrities.
I just hope "Good Eats" stays on for a very long time! That's the best show on there.
You obviously missed who this report is by, so let me repeat: IBM.
This is not about moving home users to Linux. This is about moving enterprise desktops to Linux. Unless you're a manager with nothing better to do than play on shockwave.com or maybe a few games of solitaire, then iTunes has no place in business.
I know it's asking a lot, but at least read the title of the article you're responding to.
What about the people who download it once and use it on multiple computers? Not only in a home network, for instance, but for organizations. The numbers game goes both ways.
You're actually considering rolling out Fedora for server hosting? Are you crazy?
it's not meant for server use
comes with a bunch of extra cruft installed
the GUI tools never have enough features so you resort to hand configuring anyway
poor (read, small) package repository
short release cycle
short security fix lifespan
not safe (according to developers) to update without rebooting into the installer/upgrader--have fun updating those 100 servers every year!
Thse are all the reasons not to use it for a server.
To my brother poster: Gentoo on the server? If you were my employee I'd have you fired. And no, I don't want to hear about building then distributing binary packages.
The only truly free options for servers is Debian stable. Long release cycle, vast package repostiories, security backports so your servers don't break, seamless upgrades in place. Everything Fedora is not. Use it or at least something actually meant to be stable, be it Whitebox, SuSE, etc.
Knoppix has a lot stuffed on it, but in my opinion it has a very unpolished feel to it. Things have weird names, odd looks, missing icons. I think people would come off with a better impression if he used Gnoppix.
As far as I'm concerned NAT is a workaround, not a solution to IP address shortages.
Get over it. There are two major GUI libraries used today and most of the time only one or the other is used at once. Back in the day GTK+ was created because Qt wasn't Free. You can't rewrite history.
If you choose KDE, you'll mostly be using Qt apps. Or, if you run GNOME, you'll mostly be using GTK+ applications. I use all GTK+ applications from day to day and very rarely load Qt ones.
So for me, I use a total of: 1 GUI libraries. 2 if I have to open up OpenOffice.
You're exaggerating the problem.
Who's to say in Flash version 8 it will still be optional? If you chisel away people's rights little by little they won't notice as much. A great example of this is privacy in America (or lack thereof any more).
Yeah except Avant still uses Internet Explorer as its backend. All of these fixes for Firefox are for potential exploits, not something that's in the wild. It's a lot better track record than Microsoft has by far. Plus nobody's going to pay for Opera and they certainly won't put up with having ads in their browser.
This is still wrong. From their rates page:
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0.302 Euro excluding VAT (0.393 USD)
http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/rates/all_
Much more expensive than http://teliax.com/ that I mentioned earlier.
$1.70 (euro) a minute is a "low low rate"?
TelIAX, a Asterisk friendly VoIP provider, lists only $0.30 (USD) for Iraq.
http://teliax.com/rates.html
If you don't want "your linux" to be "fisher-price pretty" then "go turn it the hell off in your grub menu.lst". How long does it take you to remove the splash kernel parameter? A lot less time than it does to bitch on slashdot.
I mean isn't Linux all about choice and configurability?
GNOME's mission is more defined than KDE. Their goal is provide a consistent, intuitive, and accessible interface for all users for Free (note the capital F).
KDE's mission is to... well, see who can put as many checkboxes as possible on a single page. Or maybe it's who can have the most missing icons from their application. Or is it who can clutter the menu with (again) missing icons and useless applications.
Debian seems to get along just fine. The stable branch, by its definition, does not receive new versions of software once it is released. It only receives backported security patches.
Testing and unstable, on the other hand, are more current versions of software.
There is software written for GNOME that uses Mono but GNOME itself is pure C.
Stop the FUD.
Use http://www.morphix.org/ and make your own main module? It's basically a chroot Debian install.
You bootstrap Debian (stable, testing, unstable), pack it up into a compressed file, and plop it into your Morphix directory and generate the ISO. It can be as bare-bones as you want it to be.
You do all your work within a Debian chroot, so you get to use all the wonderful Debian tools.
If you bought insurance (what do they call it, "Complete Care" or something?) then that would fall under accidental. "Oops, I accidentally droped it" "Oops the dog knocked it off the table."
Then stop closing it and opening it 50 times a day if you don't want to wait a couple seconds each time.
Not to mention that I can write a XPI to delete every file on your hard drive. You'd have to agree to install it, granted, but I can write it.
Please enlighten us as to how you can erase every file on the hard drive when users only have write access to their home directory.
the word "Naikrovek" has always put me off. I didnt' (sic) bother even visit a "Naikrovek" because that word reminded me of a dumbass on slashdot who doesn't have anything better to do than bitch about a random name.
Let me guess, you're leading a crusade to rename the GIMP, too, aren't you?
Why? As I recall, MP3, ogg vorbis, and the like aren't meant for compressing voice data. They're much better at dealing with music.
There are codecs specifically meant for speech, such as http://www.speex.org/.
It used to be "I don't know about your water but mine doesn't come seasoned". Guess he changed over to flour to kick it up a notch. To give him some credit though, his show without the audience isn't too bad.
I enjoy "$40 a day" actually. I don't care for her other show where she goes and has dinner with celebrities.
I just hope "Good Eats" stays on for a very long time! That's the best show on there.
You obviously missed who this report is by, so let me repeat: IBM.
This is not about moving home users to Linux. This is about moving enterprise desktops to Linux. Unless you're a manager with nothing better to do than play on shockwave.com or maybe a few games of solitaire, then iTunes has no place in business.
I know it's asking a lot, but at least read the title of the article you're responding to.
They're called shared object files. DLL is a Microsoft term.
What about the people who download it once and use it on multiple computers? Not only in a home network, for instance, but for organizations. The numbers game goes both ways.
Thse are all the reasons not to use it for a server.
To my brother poster: Gentoo on the server? If you were my employee I'd have you fired. And no, I don't want to hear about building then distributing binary packages.
The only truly free options for servers is Debian stable. Long release cycle, vast package repostiories, security backports so your servers don't break, seamless upgrades in place. Everything Fedora is not. Use it or at least something actually meant to be stable, be it Whitebox, SuSE, etc.
Why don't you submit a bug of these supposed overruns that you've found then? This post is just a general troll anyway.
Debian has my vote too for this. And when you just have to use that binary only RPM, simply run alien on it then dpkg -i it.
It's not fast enough for you? Stop closing the entire browser if you don't want to wait the extra 2 seconds for it to relaunch. Sheesh.
Knoppix has a lot stuffed on it, but in my opinion it has a very unpolished feel to it. Things have weird names, odd looks, missing icons. I think people would come off with a better impression if he used Gnoppix.