Just the fact that it's only 15% means there's very, very few people with broken xbox360s because when shit breaks the first thing the internet community does is bitch about it 24/7.
Not saying you are wrong, but a couple things to consider:
1. Not every person who bought a 360 knows about/participates/would post on an online forum. Also, who is to say they all have internet connections to post with? Even if every one of them had an internet connection, there is no guarantee they would post.
2. Not every 360 bought yesterday has been opened and tested. It's the holiday season, how many of those 360s are going under a tree or menorah or whatever?
Apologies for the cheap shot, I didn't consider it as one at first, it was meant to illustrate that your system was far from "high-end", but in re-reading I see it is a bit insulting. I do think, however, that you completely missed my point. And maybe you aren't clear on yours.
On one hand you say that downloadable music is not for true music enthusiasts. On the other you say that budget doesn't make you a music enthusiast. So which is it. You quoted two lines from my response, completely ignoring my question as to what you call a person who can only afford to download music. Your argument about "giving [music] your full attention" doesn't even really belong here. Are you actually saying I can't give a downloaded song my full attention just because I downloaded it?
As for getting all you can out of listening to it, you've set "downloaded music" as your metric for non-music enthusiast. And that is why I called you a snob. My reciever alone costs more than your whole system (and I consider my setup up to be in the middle of the "mid-end", nothing special). So now can I say that because you didn't spend as much as I did that you aren't really into music? No. What about a person that listens to downloaded music on a system that is more expensive than yours? Where do they fall? Music is art, and it is not for you to say how or where someone enjoys it. Nor is it possible for you to assign a value to that person's enjoyment. It is theirs and theirs alone. If they only want/can listen to downloaded music, and they consider themselves music enthusiasts, it is not for you to say otherwise.
And on a purely technical note; what is it about downloaded music, if encoded at a high enough bit-rate, that makes it inferior to a CD? Because if you want to start down that path, than budget really does a music enthusiast make. And we'll end up somewhere down the line with a system worth millions and an analog recording, because remember, even your CD is lossy.
It's more about hearing something that sounds good, at whatever budget you have.
So, if I can't afford even a moderately priced system and a bunch of CDs, and instead I download a few tracks and use my headphones on the computer (remember, this is all I can fit into my budget), am I now a true hi-fi music enthusiast or am I someone who thinks of music as throwaway?
Remember in your original post where you invited us to call it snobbery? It is. Get over yourself. Music is meant to be enjoyed, but that enjoyment has no concrete definition and is subjective to the listener. I'm glad you enjoy your CDs on your mediocre system, but someone listening on their $60 CD player to a burned copy of a 96bit mp3 is no less into music. Or did you want someone with an expensive system and DVD-A to come tell you that the way you listen to music is worthless? After that we can have a studio engineer with a studio worth a few million come in and say that everyone else is listening to junk. Then maybe we can invite the band in and have them tell us we are all "throwaway listeners" since we don't follow them around the world only listening to the music when they play it live.
While Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle is not a great movie, it is filled with effects, explosions, and enough over-saturated colors to burn your retinas. If I had to guess, that's probably why they chose it, because it is flashy and looks good in Hi-Def.
I guess we get to keep this going. You are still are not reading what I wrote, or comprehending it, or something. I took responsibility, I took ownership. I said the problem was not fixed because I DO NOT care anymore. Me, I made a choice not to care and so the problem remains. I never blamed MS past the shipping of faulty drives and asking what I thought was too much money for their repairs out of warranty. After that it was all me. What is so hard to understand about that?
Of course none of this has ANYTHING to do with the original point of the thread, which was reasons people are waiting to buy next-gen consoles. One of my reasons was that MS shipped out faulty hardware in the first round of the X-Box, so I was hesitant about getting bit again and would wait to see if any problems occured with this new machine.
Thanks for the advice that's one I hadn't seen yet, and thanks for taking a cheap shot even after I said that I didn't fix it because I stopped caring. Was it too hard on the ol' brain to just make a nice gesture? Had to throw the barb in there too?
You've pretty much summed up my feelings with the new consoles, but I wanted to add one thing, because it is a factor for me with the 360. I bought an original X-Box the week it launched and I loved it. What I have now though is a very large doorstop. I didn't find out about the defect in the early optical drives until mine was out of warranty and I wasn't about to pay the ridiculous amount MS was asking to fix it*. So tack on "waiting to see what they screwed up in the initial run" to my reasons for not getting one right away.
*To anyone who is going to suggest remedies to replace the drive/find a use for the X-Box, thank you, but I'm aware of most of them I just stopped caring.
WTF does WTD mean? I'm usually pretty good wth acronyms, but nothing I can come up with makes sense in context. Please don't tell me you were trying for some clean version of WTF. "What The Damn does *next* January mean?" just doesn't work. If that's the case, allow me to recommend "WTH" for your delicate sensibilities. You can even tell your friends that the "H" stands for "Heck".
Well atleast I see where our misunderstanding was. You asked if Blu-ray Red could do something the article clearly says it cannot, what you really wanted to know was what this meant for your hypothesis of a HD reg prod/cheap DVD. You didn't make that very clear in the beginning.
So now I'm confused about what you really wanted to know. It just seems like you are looking for a compression scheme that will enable current gen DVDs to hold enough data for HD. If that is the case, then the answer to your original question (Can Blu-Ray Red work on existing players) is: No.
And again, I still say a lot of what you are stating is based way too much on assumption and I haven't seen anything that confirms your assumptions the way you say. I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but I have yet to see any info on 1) a codec that does allow what you want 2) that "existing production lines" means they walk in, don't change a single thing, and out come Blu-Ray Red DVDs. Cheap and Cheaper are too different things, and you have to put it in the perspective of a multi-billion dollar industry. Yeah, Blu-ray Red might be CHEAPER than standard Blu-Ray and might even use existing production lines, but that doesn't mean it's CHEAP or that nothing needs to be done to the equipment to make it B-R Red capable.
I still think you are reading too much into some of their words and making assumptions that aren't backed up by any facts in the article. You seem to be seeing the words "red laser" and "exisiting production lines" and then assuming that it will just take a few teaks and a firmware flash to make existing players work. I'm not saying that is impossible, but nothing in the article even hints at it and the section you quoted flat out says it won't happen.
Am I missing something in your question or did you completely ignore the section you quoted when it says: "it will only play back in Blu-ray Disc players and recorders"?
The PSP simply has more titles which will appeal to the 30+ age group.
Up until then you were just giving your opinion, which is fine. With that line though, you started trying to speak for me and you don't, especially since I disagree with you main point that Nintendo's games are primarily for kids.
Adding 1 pound of weight to your boots is the equivalent to adding 6.4 pounds to a backpack. So these batteries would have to weigh next to nothing or else they would be a serious detriment when considering all the other things a soldier has to carry as well.
As someone who uses FreeBSD on his server...well, I'm not sure your ill-conceived insult applies to me.
The comment was to illustrate that you were spreading FUD. You were making predictions based on having zero actual knowledge of the issue or at the very least providing zero facts to back up your statement. I used the BSD meme because I thought it would be easily recognizable, guess you missed the reference.
Yeah--I'd be a lot more psyched if South Park, the Simpsons, or any of those other shows were on this program.
It's day one, give it time.
Truth be told, I'm kind of disapppointed. We have a video iPod without HD, no feature-film support (except for what you yourself can pirate/rip and convert to mpeg), and no video express station.
What the hell is feature film support? Were you expecting the iTMS to open with the Nextflix library available for download? And while HD is nice, I think you're missing the point. And getting upset at Apple because, I guess, you were expecting some huge revolution with VR and iPods you connect to your head, and instead you got their first effort at moving toward video.
We have Front Row, which is an awesome performance that is almost utterly useless if you can't hook it up to a T.V. Never mind that it's only available on these iMacs.
The iMacs have s-video and composite out, are you mad you can't use them with your coax only TV?
We have a slightly upgraded iMac, in a line that certainly will falter in the face of the impending Intel switch.
And BSD is dying. True story.
I know I shouldn't have replied to you, but sometimes you just have to feed the trolls.
In both of your examples, you have exceptions. Oh, I never need to reboot my computers, except when...
So you, who is championing OSes and techniques to not require rebooting, still has to shutdown/reboot at times. Now I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for you to imagine some situations where people who aren't you might think faster boot times is a good thing.
It's funny, the article starts with "Will computers that require no time to boot up become a reality?" but that's kind of a stupid question. I reboot my Linux machine once every year or so, maybe a little more often if I'm installing a new kernel. But once it's up, it stays up for weeks or months at a time. The time required to boot is totally insignificant.
You are right, there have been noinnovationsingaming in the last two years. And those are just the ones off the top of my head. Stop following the marketing hype crowd and look around for yourself.
Didn't Brock pump a lot of iron? Wasn't Brock stronger than spider-man because the symbian amplified Brock's strength, which was more than Parker's?
Something tells me they won't be going with the comic version of the suit's origin, so they probably feel just fine changing details for Brock as well. Unless they plan on spending the first 10 minutes of the film explaining Secret Wars.
They are reporting that many young kids have gotten these small music devices as gifts, and often listen to them in school during lectures. Because they're so small they are often quite easy to hide if the teacher does come along.
What rock did they find these teachers under? I remember listening to the new Run-DMC "Raising Hell" on cassette back in Jr. High, during class. I even let a friend in front of me use one of the earbuds and we both listened. Or when we would run the headphones up a shirt sleeve and appear to be leaning our head on our hand, which was holding an earbud.
Thank God for these super small audio devices finally being invented, since no kid in history has been able to pull this off before.
Slashdot Mirror
What is the quote about not knowing history and being doomed to repeat it?
Be careful when making sweeping claims that something man-made will stand up to Mother Nature, she has a tendency to make you look the fool.
Just the fact that it's only 15% means there's very, very few people with broken xbox360s because when shit breaks the first thing the internet community does is bitch about it 24/7.
Not saying you are wrong, but a couple things to consider:
1. Not every person who bought a 360 knows about/participates/would post on an online forum. Also, who is to say they all have internet connections to post with? Even if every one of them had an internet connection, there is no guarantee they would post.
2. Not every 360 bought yesterday has been opened and tested. It's the holiday season, how many of those 360s are going under a tree or menorah or whatever?
Apologies for the cheap shot, I didn't consider it as one at first, it was meant to illustrate that your system was far from "high-end", but in re-reading I see it is a bit insulting.
I do think, however, that you completely missed my point. And maybe you aren't clear on yours.
On one hand you say that downloadable music is not for true music enthusiasts. On the other you say that budget doesn't make you a music enthusiast. So which is it. You quoted two lines from my response, completely ignoring my question as to what you call a person who can only afford to download music. Your argument about "giving [music] your full attention" doesn't even really belong here. Are you actually saying I can't give a downloaded song my full attention just because I downloaded it?
As for getting all you can out of listening to it, you've set "downloaded music" as your metric for non-music enthusiast. And that is why I called you a snob. My reciever alone costs more than your whole system (and I consider my setup up to be in the middle of the "mid-end", nothing special). So now can I say that because you didn't spend as much as I did that you aren't really into music? No. What about a person that listens to downloaded music on a system that is more expensive than yours? Where do they fall? Music is art, and it is not for you to say how or where someone enjoys it. Nor is it possible for you to assign a value to that person's enjoyment. It is theirs and theirs alone. If they only want/can listen to downloaded music, and they consider themselves music enthusiasts, it is not for you to say otherwise.
And on a purely technical note; what is it about downloaded music, if encoded at a high enough bit-rate, that makes it inferior to a CD? Because if you want to start down that path, than budget really does a music enthusiast make. And we'll end up somewhere down the line with a system worth millions and an analog recording, because remember, even your CD is lossy.
It's more about hearing something that sounds good, at whatever budget you have.
So, if I can't afford even a moderately priced system and a bunch of CDs, and instead I download a few tracks and use my headphones on the computer (remember, this is all I can fit into my budget), am I now a true hi-fi music enthusiast or am I someone who thinks of music as throwaway?
Remember in your original post where you invited us to call it snobbery? It is. Get over yourself. Music is meant to be enjoyed, but that enjoyment has no concrete definition and is subjective to the listener. I'm glad you enjoy your CDs on your mediocre system, but someone listening on their $60 CD player to a burned copy of a 96bit mp3 is no less into music. Or did you want someone with an expensive system and DVD-A to come tell you that the way you listen to music is worthless? After that we can have a studio engineer with a studio worth a few million come in and say that everyone else is listening to junk. Then maybe we can invite the band in and have them tell us we are all "throwaway listeners" since we don't follow them around the world only listening to the music when they play it live.
While Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle is not a great movie, it is filled with effects, explosions, and enough over-saturated colors to burn your retinas. If I had to guess, that's probably why they chose it, because it is flashy and looks good in Hi-Def.
I guess we get to keep this going. You are still are not reading what I wrote, or comprehending it, or something. I took responsibility, I took ownership. I said the problem was not fixed because I DO NOT care anymore. Me, I made a choice not to care and so the problem remains. I never blamed MS past the shipping of faulty drives and asking what I thought was too much money for their repairs out of warranty. After that it was all me. What is so hard to understand about that?
Of course none of this has ANYTHING to do with the original point of the thread, which was reasons people are waiting to buy next-gen consoles. One of my reasons was that MS shipped out faulty hardware in the first round of the X-Box, so I was hesitant about getting bit again and would wait to see if any problems occured with this new machine.
Thanks for the advice that's one I hadn't seen yet, and thanks for taking a cheap shot even after I said that I didn't fix it because I stopped caring. Was it too hard on the ol' brain to just make a nice gesture? Had to throw the barb in there too?
You've pretty much summed up my feelings with the new consoles, but I wanted to add one thing, because it is a factor for me with the 360. I bought an original X-Box the week it launched and I loved it. What I have now though is a very large doorstop. I didn't find out about the defect in the early optical drives until mine was out of warranty and I wasn't about to pay the ridiculous amount MS was asking to fix it*. So tack on "waiting to see what they screwed up in the initial run" to my reasons for not getting one right away.
*To anyone who is going to suggest remedies to replace the drive/find a use for the X-Box, thank you, but I'm aware of most of them I just stopped caring.
WTF does WTD mean? I'm usually pretty good wth acronyms, but nothing I can come up with makes sense in context. Please don't tell me you were trying for some clean version of WTF. "What The Damn does *next* January mean?" just doesn't work. If that's the case, allow me to recommend "WTH" for your delicate sensibilities. You can even tell your friends that the "H" stands for "Heck".
Well atleast I see where our misunderstanding was. You asked if Blu-ray Red could do something the article clearly says it cannot, what you really wanted to know was what this meant for your hypothesis of a HD reg prod/cheap DVD. You didn't make that very clear in the beginning.
So now I'm confused about what you really wanted to know. It just seems like you are looking for a compression scheme that will enable current gen DVDs to hold enough data for HD. If that is the case, then the answer to your original question (Can Blu-Ray Red work on existing players) is: No.
And again, I still say a lot of what you are stating is based way too much on assumption and I haven't seen anything that confirms your assumptions the way you say. I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but I have yet to see any info on 1) a codec that does allow what you want 2) that "existing production lines" means they walk in, don't change a single thing, and out come Blu-Ray Red DVDs. Cheap and Cheaper are too different things, and you have to put it in the perspective of a multi-billion dollar industry. Yeah, Blu-ray Red might be CHEAPER than standard Blu-Ray and might even use existing production lines, but that doesn't mean it's CHEAP or that nothing needs to be done to the equipment to make it B-R Red capable.
I still think you are reading too much into some of their words and making assumptions that aren't backed up by any facts in the article. You seem to be seeing the words "red laser" and "exisiting production lines" and then assuming that it will just take a few teaks and a firmware flash to make existing players work. I'm not saying that is impossible, but nothing in the article even hints at it and the section you quoted flat out says it won't happen.
Am I missing something in your question or did you completely ignore the section you quoted when it says: "it will only play back in Blu-ray Disc players and recorders"?
Keeping things closed isn't good for anyone except the company that is doing the closing
So in other words, Apple's business model is good for them. Way to sell your idea.
Maybe because of this line:
The PSP simply has more titles which will appeal to the 30+ age group.
Up until then you were just giving your opinion, which is fine. With that line though, you started trying to speak for me and you don't, especially since I disagree with you main point that Nintendo's games are primarily for kids.
Why not put them in the bottom of your boots?
Adding 1 pound of weight to your boots is the equivalent to adding 6.4 pounds to a backpack. So these batteries would have to weigh next to nothing or else they would be a serious detriment when considering all the other things a soldier has to carry as well.
As someone who uses FreeBSD on his server...well, I'm not sure your ill-conceived insult applies to me.
The comment was to illustrate that you were spreading FUD. You were making predictions based on having zero actual knowledge of the issue or at the very least providing zero facts to back up your statement. I used the BSD meme because I thought it would be easily recognizable, guess you missed the reference.
What in the hell are you talking about?
Yeah--I'd be a lot more psyched if South Park, the Simpsons, or any of those other shows were on this program.
It's day one, give it time.
Truth be told, I'm kind of disapppointed. We have a video iPod without HD, no feature-film support (except for what you yourself can pirate/rip and convert to mpeg), and no video express station.
What the hell is feature film support? Were you expecting the iTMS to open with the Nextflix library available for download? And while HD is nice, I think you're missing the point. And getting upset at Apple because, I guess, you were expecting some huge revolution with VR and iPods you connect to your head, and instead you got their first effort at moving toward video.
We have Front Row, which is an awesome performance that is almost utterly useless if you can't hook it up to a T.V. Never mind that it's only available on these iMacs.
The iMacs have s-video and composite out, are you mad you can't use them with your coax only TV?
We have a slightly upgraded iMac, in a line that certainly will falter in the face of the impending Intel switch.
And BSD is dying. True story.
I know I shouldn't have replied to you, but sometimes you just have to feed the trolls.
In both of your examples, you have exceptions. Oh, I never need to reboot my computers, except when...
So you, who is championing OSes and techniques to not require rebooting, still has to shutdown/reboot at times. Now I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for you to imagine some situations where people who aren't you might think faster boot times is a good thing.
It's funny, the article starts with "Will computers that require no time to boot up become a reality?" but that's kind of a stupid question. I reboot my Linux machine once every year or so, maybe a little more often if I'm installing a new kernel. But once it's up, it stays up for weeks or months at a time. The time required to boot is totally insignificant.
Notebooks
You are right, there have been no innovations in gaming in the last two years. And those are just the ones off the top of my head. Stop following the marketing hype crowd and look around for yourself.
...but I doubt you'd ever see them implimented.
Then again...
Everybody dies alone.
Not conjoined twins.
Didn't Brock pump a lot of iron? Wasn't Brock stronger than spider-man because the symbian amplified Brock's strength, which was more than Parker's?
Something tells me they won't be going with the comic version of the suit's origin, so they probably feel just fine changing details for Brock as well. Unless they plan on spending the first 10 minutes of the film explaining Secret Wars.
They are reporting that many young kids have gotten these small music devices as gifts, and often listen to them in school during lectures. Because they're so small they are often quite easy to hide if the teacher does come along.
What rock did they find these teachers under? I remember listening to the new Run-DMC "Raising Hell" on cassette back in Jr. High, during class. I even let a friend in front of me use one of the earbuds and we both listened. Or when we would run the headphones up a shirt sleeve and appear to be leaning our head on our hand, which was holding an earbud.
Thank God for these super small audio devices finally being invented, since no kid in history has been able to pull this off before.
Jessica Biel + bikini.
Everything else is filler between the credits.