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iPod Video Coming to a Car Near You
_am99_ writes "In the "one more thing" media event today, an iPod that can play Video was announced. The initial content seems to be music videos that can be purchased from the iTunes Music Store." In related news aquachannel writes "Apple has just updated their iPodYourCar page to include a slew of new car companies. This means that there'll be a lot of cars that you can buy off the showroom floor and use your iPod with your car - right off the floor and out of the box."
This would be a big hit if they can stick to that price of $1.99 per video and have variety in the content provided. Already they have a winner with music videos and Pixar offerring six short films. MTV has turned in to a channel that has nothing to do with music. Also I don't have to put up with all the crappy vidoes with MTV stupid logos and artwork, assuming Apple is going to just give me a clean video. Along with that it'd be nice if they can provide other content like stand-up routines or I'd love if Jon Stewart could force comedy central to provide it's videos for video ipod.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/12/tech/mai n937689.shtml
I think the *biggest thing* is the fact you can now download TV shows, like Lost, for $1.99 an episode. I think that's pretty earth shattering...a 3 minute pop video, or a 45 minute TV show for the same price?
Get my Jetta retrofit... then again. The present ipod connection method is working in the car. No need for a new gadget/harness..
Blacker than my baby girl's stare. Black like the veil that the muslimina wear. Black like the planet that they fear...
Act I: The iMac G5. We sold over a million of them in its first year. What better place to put the computer than right behind the display? Today we're introducing and all new iMac. [It looks extremely similar] Three great new features.
... from your sofa. We've done a remote control, Apple style. It's got six buttons. [Demo: He presses remote and a menu for Music / Photo / DVD / Video zooms in. There's a giant iPod-style interface for music. "I can enjoy my music from across the room and see the artwork."
... it's on an iPod! New silhouette ad with Eminem -- it's not silhouette but a limited color palette. Steve likes the ads so much he runs each one twice. ]
(1) It's even thinner. The 20-inch is now thinner than the 17 used to be.
(2) iSight videocam. The new mac has an iSight built in. The camera has even better specs. Right out of the box videoconferencing without any extra stuff. We wrote a new app called PhotoBooth. [Demo: It has a built in flash - the entire display flashes. There are special effects including "Warhol" and effects that morph your face goofily.]
(3) Front Row. It s a new way to experience the media on your computer. It's an incredible way to enjoy your music, your videos, and your photos
Photos navigates through everything in iPhoto with slide show effects for albums.
"Now, a lot of people watch DVDs in their iMac, and it would be nice to control them from across the room. Now you can." [Loads DVD of The Incredibles with menu that blurs out the typically unusable menu on the DVD with an iPod-style menu. Movie posters and trailers in HD format streamed from apple.com] This remote control, I just wanted to point something that to me captures what Apple is all about. [Shot of huge button-congested remotes next to the tiny 6-button Apple remote]
Specs: Bluetooth, Superdrive, Mighty Mouse standard. 17-inch $1299. 20-inch $1699. Available today.
Act II: The iPod. We announced yesterday that we had shipped almost 30 million iPods. Our market share, 75% of all MP3 players shipping. Five weeks ago we introduced the iPod nano. And you know what? We shipped over a million iPod nanos in the first 17 days, and we could not meet demand. But what about the white iPod? It's been a huge success for us. And therefore, we're going to replace it. The new white iPod. And yes, it does video.
Specs: Same width and height as current model, but thinner. QVGA (324 x 240) pixel 260,000 color 2.5-inch display. h.264 and MPEG-4 at 30 fps. TV out. 30GB and 60GB models. Same width and height. 30GB is 31% thinner than the curent 20GB model [Making it 0.44-inches thick--say wha?]. 60G is 12% thinner than 20GB. 30G up to 75 hours of video, $299. 60G up to 150 hours video, $399. Shipping in one week.
And, by popular demand, we make it in black. They also come with a nice carrying case, to keep 'em all perfect. [Thin plastic sleeve--aw shucks]
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The new iPod will be 30% thinner than the current 20GB iPod (making it 0.44-inches thick--say wha?), and will feature a 60GB version (which should be thinner than the current 0.63-inch thick 20GB iPod), and editions of both in black.
What's the device named, you ask? The iPod. That's it, just The iPod. Well spare you the Prince jokes. The iPod will have TV out.
Stevie has iTunes 6.0 up there--only about a month after introducing iTunes 5.0.
iTunes 6.0 will also feature video and the iTunes Music Store will feature Fairplay DRMed video downloads (big surprise, right?).
At launch over 2,000 music videos will be made available at a cost of $1.99 apiece. You can download iTunes 6.0 starting today.
Oh, and one more thing...
It's not only music videos you can buy. No, Apple's set up to allow you to purchase TV shows for $1.99 apiece. Get Desperate Housewives or four other ABC shows premiering on iTunes at two bucks an ep. Videos are native QVGA resolution.
More details to come...
"Scientists don't change their minds, they just die." -- Max Planck
And here I thought they were finally releasing the successor to the Apple IIGS.
/// even better this time. Or they bristled at the term "Apple ][ Minus" and went back to Integer BASIC without Autostart. Or they followed up on that Pippin console.
Or they fixed up the Apple
Quiet you, it could still happen.
The coolest voice ever.
no bluetooth. doesnt support ogg vorbis. lame.
Has anyone begun selling Video iPod pornography yet?
Cyric Zndovzny at your service.
According to Stuff magazine:
"You'll be able to buy TV shows from the iTunes Music Store - Desperate Housewives, Lost and more shows from ABC and Disney." I guess that means Terry Hatcher will be getting into MY pants!
Does anyone know if these "ipod ready" cars just have standard line inputs (it would be about time) or if they're some sort of bastard proprietary jack?
I'm wondering if the resoution of the videos/shows they will be selling will be sufficient enough to watch not only on the V-Ipod but also on your computer, or on a TV (not only with the TV out)? What about burning to DVD?
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Even though Apple seems to be doing great with DRMed AAC files on iPods, iPods would have totally failed if they didn't support mp3s to begin with. I wonder if the video iPod will be able to gain traction without supporting the large collections of TV episodes, music videos, and movies that users already have in their collection in Divx format.
Talk about unexpected... that Apple sure can keep a secret!
TV shows (like Lost) one day after they air, and you know damn well what's next... movies.
A video airtunes device didn't materialize, but a dock with video out and remote control did.
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
A friend of mine has a mini cooper with the ipod option. Pretty cool. The ipod just plugs into the glove compartment. The controls are accessable from the stereo. Better than listening to American radio.
Now if I could just get BBC 6radio in a car stereo.
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I wonder if you will be able to use Nero (with its H264/Mpeg4 codec) to code your own video and transfer it to the new iPod? Think Steevie limited playback support to DRM'd and items purchased vis iTunes music store? I would love to transfer my own videos for playback and have little interest in music videos.
And my new 60 GB iPod is 17 days bought - with a return policy of 14 days. Maybe I should call them anyway and see if I can get lucky on a return....
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An important distinction: the video support is part of iTunes as well. I can only imagine that iTunes will also play videos, so those of us without new VideoiPods can also take advantage of the new service.
ABC and Disney have been announced as partners and are offering TV shows for the new iTunes, which means we'll finally have a legitimate source for paying for, and downloading, time-shiftable episodes of "LOST".
Very cool.
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The ipod porno.
You would think that there would be safty concerns with users able to watch videos on their IPod while driving. That would be a bigger distraction than a cell phone. I really don't think this is a smart move on Apple's part. What if two years down the line, some guy kills someone because he wasn't paying attention to the road, and sues Apple for distracting him. If someone can sue McDonalds for making them fat, then this could and probably will happen.
The Remote is a disappointment. It's basically a Shuffle with a menu button. Doesn't have the touch-sensitive wheel that makes navigating through long lists of songs such a pleasure. Of course, I haven't tried it with Front Row yet, but I'm not really looking forward to it due to the clunkiness of the design.
Yes, but can I play xvid or divx encoded videos? You know, all the ones that I created from DVDs I own?
This is ridiculous. I'm sure I'm not the only one of the several thousands who must have submitted all the OTHER news:
-iTunes 6
-New iMac with built-in Firewire camera
-New app called FrontRow for playing media from your sofa, 6 button iPod-like remote -compared to Microsoft Media Center's 40 buttons
-New PhotoBooth app for taking pictures that actually uses iMac's screen as a flash
-Television shows and music videos for sale through iTunes at $1.99.
Etc....
Instead, we get "Yeah, they mentioned iPod video today, and here's a lame car link. Disregard all the other news, like Apple taking Microsoft on directly in the living room..."
"Sufferin' succotash."
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I don't get it... why so little video capacity?
In my world, 60GB is about 15 hours of DVD quality video... and at 320X240, the 60GB iPod should hold twice that... and with H.264, it should twice THAT... so, why isn't it 60 hours of video?
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I've used the Alpine connector since January, and like it. Just wish it didn't lock the iPod buttons - I can find a song using the ipod interface a lot faster than through the head unit. But the sound quality, and the ipod charging features are great.
Brookside Baptist Church is announcing that they have adapted their sermons for the video iPod (http://www.brooksidebaptist.org/videoipod).
The apple website is only loading itermittently, but I'm pretty sure I saw on there that they have "for the birds".
Something I'm seriously wondering about is, will we start to see tv companies doing video podcasts? Like, the daily show. They already put segments from their show up on their website as video. At this point it wouldn't be so surprising to see them start putting these into some kind of iPod-friendly format, or almost even just putting up entire episodes and financing this by leaving the commercials in.
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apple.com is screwed up. I have never had a website crash both Firefox AND IE. Is this happening to anyone else?
Have you clicked the "more features" link on the new iPod page or on the online store?
Ironically, it seems to be a Quicktime plugin problem.
I couldn't fail to disagree with you less.
I noticed on Apple's page that the eMac is gone. It is no longer on Apple's hardware website (except under "eMac for Education"), and it is no longer sold at the Apple store.
I guess the Mac Mini must have made the eMac a bit redundant, so sales of the eMac must have dropped tremendously.
Don't forget iMovie; Apple is big on people creating their own video.
Looks like Handbrake just got a lot more popular.
I think Steve released a video-capable iPod to shut people the heck up.
For that, thank you Steve.
(P.S. Why not make all the new iPods the FrontRow remote?)
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I think the coolest part are the somewhat reasonable prices on the new iMacs.
For $1299 you get 17" LCD, built in good quality webcam, 1.9 GHz G5, 512 MB, 160 GB, dual layer slot load DVD writer, Radeon X600 Pro, 802.11g, bluetooth, a wired funky MightyMouse, a remote control, and a bunch of preinstalled software.
augh, _still_ green, how many version till we get a new color?
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The video quality is crap. The darknet provides much higher quality versions of TV shows.
Then again, I'm sure there's plenty of people who'd really love that. Actually, well, ummm,....Great Idea!!!!
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man thatz gud, i can't wait to get my handz on 1
My PSP doesn't play Divx (or XVID, or WMV, etc.) But that doesn't stop me from watching a lot of my weekly video content on it. With an app like PSPWare to do the conversion from a myriad of formats to the quality setting of my choice, I don't have a problem. As the iPod with Video plays H.264 and MPEG4, I would imagine a similiar application will work just fine to do the conversion and loading for you.
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How does the iPod hold up with sub-freezing -> 130+ degree F temperatures? I live in a state that routinely sees 110 degree days in the summer (130 is not surprising inside a closed automobile) and single-digit days in the winter. According to Apple, the iPod Operating temperature: 32 to 95 F (0 to 35 C); Non operating temperature: -4 to 113 F (-20 to 45 C)
Considering the iPod keeps a record of maximum and minimum temperatures, if you exceed either of these and experience a HDD or battery failure I'm wondering whether you'll eat the costs of replacement.
IOW, remove the iPod each time you leave the vehicle and take it with, or you risk serious damage.
Now, if I could get an iPod that communicates with the car via bluetooth that'd be ideal -- I wouldn't have to remember to plug the thing in every time I wanted to use it/remove it every time I leave the vehicle; Just keep it in my briefcase or jacket pocket and everything works.
Say it with me now...
iPorn.
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Yeah, it was exactly 2 sentences when I first read it. Not really informative, I just found it funny that we got more ads then story on that page.
iPod video and driving may be hazardous to your health.
From the article:
Prices Rise
The player is helping to drive sales of Apple's more- profitable Mac personal computers. Mac shipments reached a five- year high of 1.24 million units, the fourth straight quarter shipments have topped 1 million machines, Apple said yesterday.
Interesting!
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
Looking at the new iPod's specs, it seems that only USB (2.0, unless you're really patient) is supported, meaning that no current-model iPods now have a FireWire interface.
Come on, guys. We all knew the iPod video was coming, and all of that junk. The BIG news here is TV episodes in the ITMS--finally, a legit (and not ungodly pricey) alternative to torrenting shows I miss. Granted, right now it is only five shows, but if this takes off (and I am guessing it will--people over 20 care about tv shows a lot more than music videos) then we can expect digital distribution of tv shows to become the norm.
I still cannot understand why the basic networks have yet to start doing this. Why NOT put tv shows online, perhaps with commercials added in? They broadcast them out to the world anyways, so anyone with a TV can recieve them, so why not anyone with an internet connection? DRM it if you need to, just make it easier for me to access. Live in the nows.
Don't forget the best reason to use iTunes 6--they softened the sharp window corners. :)
Seriously though, they smoothed out the sharp corners of the whole interface. It was actually bugging me in version 5, as trivial as that is. I didn't like the really sharp corners at all, and I know a lot of people were complaining about that. When you're using an app all the time like iTunes, it helps to have it look and feel nice.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Can't wait to get my hands on the new iPod. New iMac looks sweet. Downloading iTunes 6 now.
That said...
Where are the powermacs and powerbooks I'd heard were going to be announced? If I'm going to be making content for the new iPod, what better than on a quad-processor G5? Or a dual procesor powerbook?
Is going to be a real selling point and is a brilliant idea that will likely attract a lot more stations.
I mean think about it. Season X DVDs of TV shows are already imensely popular. At 2$ a show the TV companies are making about the same profit as they would off selling an entire DVD season, consumers get their shows right then and there, and apple makes a profit from the sales.
While I certainly agree that the Ipod is still not the ideal video display device, this is an excellent additional feature to an already well designed mp3 player. Now if we can just get support for more MP3 formats and maybe a built in FM tuner, Apple would hold all the cards over any of their competitors.
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Ha - I beat slashdots's announcement.
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Course, I had to do it in a post that was wildly off topic.
http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=16
Personally I was hoping for a G5 laptop.... er... oh, oh..... I know..... its a waterproof floating G5 powerbook you can use in the bath, in fact, to deal with the cooling issues, you can ONLY use it in the bath. The great part is that it keeps the water nice and warm. Instead of the bubble sound for a system alert, it would just blow a few bubbles, then look embarrassed.
The video they're offering is 320x240 to match the resolution of the Video iPods. A typical TV show takes 10-20 minutes to download from the iTunes Music & Video Store.
I don't see too many people lining up to download episodes of "That's So Raven" at $1.99 a pop, but mayve that's just me.
The Remote is a disappointment. It's basically a Shuffle with a menu button. Doesn't have the touch-sensitive wheel that makes navigating through long lists of songs such a pleasure. Of course, I haven't tried it with Front Row yet, but I'm not really looking forward to it due to the clunkiness of the design.
First of all, to be clear, you are talking about the remote that comes bundled with the iMac, right?
You do realize that a whole bunch of people complain about the touch-sensitive iPod click wheel? I think it's sort of a 50/50 split, some people love the iPod interface, some people totally hate it.
So far I feel like I've ben gut punched....NO powerbook upgrades? I don't give a rats ass about watching music videos on a 320x200 screen for 2 bucks each! Apple! PLEASE! Do something with the powerbooks!
I like the fact that Apple has a deal going with one broadcast network, but I can't get over a 2.5" display. That will seriously hinder the usefulness to the over 30 market. I'm only 38 but I don't want to squint while watching shows, nor have to buy a third-party lens (anybody remember the first GBA?).
If I want portable media I'll buy an Archos AV-700 or just stick with my laptop. The Archos has a 7" screen and the laptop has a 15.4". Both have more than enough space for my iTunes collection and select DVDs.
What are the capabilities of it? Does it support menu and dvd navigation from ripped dvd's? Can it play ISO images of dvd's stored on an external drive? Is it the first part of a mac based dvd jukebox device?
On a music iPod you only need the screen for navigating. On a video iPod the screen is used to watch stuff.
Can anybody tell me why 60% of the device's front-side real estate is white plastic?
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Okay, the new iPods and such are nice, and you should understand that I'm a bit biased, as I'm typing this on a 500 Mhz TiBook that desperately needs replacing:
Where are the upgraded PowerBooks and PowerMacs? We seem to get a new iPod model every two weeks, but no new PowerBooks for over 10 months?
Grrrrrrr!
This is excellent, a very important day in the history of TV on both sides of the Atlantic. But how open can it be made? Can we get our own stuff on there? Once again we hope that the community can come up with a magical solution.
I just took a look at the iPodYourCar page. It's really a shame that not a single American auto manufacturer is in that list. I think it's also an indicator of just how bad American cars are and how distant their products are from what consumers want.
No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
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As long as I can put my own videos (e.g. recorded with a TV capture card) on the iPod, this is awesome. If it's for the store only, forget it.
sulli
RTFJ.
At least according to Apple's page:
Holds up to 150 hours of video.
Video capacity is based on 4 minutes per H.264 750-Kbps video combined with 128-Kbps audio.
Lets see the music industry try to squeeze Apple now. They are no longer the only content providers for iTMS. There is no chance of Apple caving in now. Especially with the price points they are setting for the vidoes.
Does anyone else see the camera in the imac as a little bit like 1984?
I could buy Doctor Who episodes on iTunes... BBC, are you listening?
The perfect sig is a lot like silence, only louder
Check my post out from the last Ipod statement here. Apple sure moves fast to my requests.
CS: It is all sink or swim...oh and did I mention there are sharks in that water?
Aren't they supposed to be intended to advertise albums? Why they are free (and even labels pay in order them to be broadcasted) on MTV but not on iPod?
but not a single GM car.. no wonder they are loosing money... the are out of the loop...
Does anyone else hear the crying of all the morons who dumped their Apple stock yesterday because earnings only quadrupled?
Apple has just updated their iPodYourCar page to include a slew of new car companies
I'm so happy Ferrari is listed on that page (albeit with "Coming Soon"). I was so worried that the SDC's (Small Dick Compensators) weren't able to have native iPod integration.
Actually quite a few if the companies listed on that page cater to SDCs. They should subtely rub it in by only allowing integration with iPod Nanos.
The screen is only 2.5 inches! I hope they are going to supply a free magnifying glass in the pack.
My PSP has a superb 4.2 inch widescreen screen. I could never downgrade to 2.5 inches. Granted there's no Hard Drive, but I can just copy a few episodes of Farscape onto a 1GB memory stick ready for the morning commute.
Of course, none of these video devices ever seem to support the formats you want. Either it doesn't support AC3 sound, or it doesn't support Div3.11 or a dozen other problems. You have to re-encode what you want to watch, particularly with the PSP, which is pretty proprietary.
If you want a portable video player, I would recomend the PSP for its lovely screen. But if you really need to store tens of gigabytes of video, go for the Archos AV500. The screen is only a little bit smaller and it has a lot of video features the PSP doesn't.
(The Creative Zen Vision looks interesting with its high res 640x480 screen, but its not a widescreen, which is a no-no for me)
do not install the new iTunes 6 + Quicktime - the quicktime plugin crashes the browser when it tries to display in-line quicktime. i've tried this on four different computers with the same result trying to play the new iPod video off Apple's site.
I am looking forward to watching video on my iPod Shuffle.
Lets hope apple makes sure their screens a a little more scratch resistant with these video ipods than they were with the nano. My nano is is just over a month old and its scratched to hell just from keeping it in my pocket. I would ahte to have a video ipod and not be able to watch the video cause the screen is scratched. Atleast I can still listen to music on my nano!
GL HF!
Anyone know if iTunes will now burn your video files you buy onto a DVD that will play in a standard DVD player?
If i buy every episode of a tv show, I may want to burn them to a dvd to watch when someone else is using the computer. or if i'd rather watch it on my huge 40 inch plasma tv (if I had one).
1. How does this affect streaming, i.e I can stream music, can I stream video?
2. When does the airport express come out that enables me to watch downloaded videos on my TV?
ABC has LOST and Desperate Housewives up for $1.99 in itunes right now...
see flickr photo of LOST page
i mean it'll have to be a much more extensive library, but it is an interesting baby step in the right direction... (that is till we find out the DRM times out/expires or something... wondering what I'm *buying* for $1.99 exactly)
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Apple store is updated:
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http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/
It looks sweet but I wonder if it's as scratch-tastic as the nano.
I think I'll hold off on buying one until that issue is resolved.
Cool. Now we can pay for our music commercials, in QVGA resolution with DRM I'd wager.
If you're pushing softcore MTV, why not go all the way? Oh well, I guess that didn't mix with the ipod's white image. But hardcore content will soon be available on the nano from the dark side.
music files were "easy to circumvent" the DRM by burning them to cd...
can you do the same with these video files?
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I'm assuming it's Apple's MPEG4, but it'd be neat if it could playback other MPEG4 formats like xvid, divx, etc. Pretty much no chance of that, though, I suppose. Too bad, means I'll probably have to go about converting or re-encoding a bunch of video. Because, yes, I want one of these babies (and iMac or Mac Mini with Front Row) within the next year or so.
A 2.5" screen?
Anyone recall the SNL bit with Will Ferrel and Jimmy Fallon where Ferrel whips out some magnifying glasses in order to read a super-small email device? I'm going to have to get me a pair of those.
Disney's head first jump into content delivery is absolutely no surprise in the business community. Robert Iger, The new Disney's CEO, has been under pressure to pick up the mess that Eisner left off. Iger's been talking about delivering digital content since day one on the job. And ABC is owned by Disney.
Does anyone know if FrontRow (and remote) will be available for anything other than the new iMac?
I can't find any info about this on Apple's site.
I read
FYI, I've put up a torrent for iTunes6 here
WWJD? JWRTFM!!!
Pr0n podcasting.
2) iPod 'video'. Why watch video on a 2.5" screen? No input capability for editing contacts. No gaming ability. A PSP has a larger screen, plays games, surfs the web and has built in WiFi. I just don't see the point! I will buy a Sony Ericsson P990 wish 4Gig Memory Stick and be able to view several movies on the go on a larger screen - and have all the benefits of a smart phone.
None of this is very innovative and offerings from Archaos are more flexible, even if not as sleep and well integrated. I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WATCHING LOST ON A 2.5" SCREEN! I WANT TO WATCH IT ON A LARGE SCREEN, AND NOT BY FIDDLING AROUND CONNECTING AN iPOD TO MY TV! I WANT THE FILES ON MY HOME MEDIA SERVER!
O'WONDERWe're working on it.
If you buy a song from ITMS, you can burn it to a CD. I think there is some limitation on how often you do this (though I think the limitation applies to playlists.) It doesn't look like you can do the same thing with the videos from ITMS, i.e. burn them as a video CD and/or a DVD. Personally I would want to be able to play a TV show I bought, on my home theater or in my bedroom. Having to buy a new iPod, download the video to the iPod from my computer, take the iPod to my living room and connect it, get up to press pause on the iPod when I want to get a drink from the kitchen, etc. does not seem like a good way to go. Burning it to a DVD and popping that in to my DVD player seems a lot better.
This upsets me quite a bit since I just purchased a new color iPod less than a month ago. As soon as a saw the screen I thought "my, this would be great for video." Now I gotta wait for the a linux kernel that supports my iPod before I can watch video on it. Thanks Apple...
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I understand it works for the iMac... and if you have the universal iPod dock...
its only $26 for students and the education crowd...
But what IS it? is it IR? RF? BT?
Front Row Media Experience sounds very cool... Is it and the remote going to work with my PowerBook, even though I don't have an iPod? If not... why would they exclude the rest of the media crowd that doesn't have an iPod?
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Keep in mind ABC also owns ESPN, so you can bet if this thing takes off, up next will be sports broadcasts and other ESPN shows. Imagine the potential. Missed that game you wanted to see? No problem, for $2 you can download it and watch it whenever and whereever you want.
You are who you are, let no one tell you different. But, never close your mind to a new point of view.
How about making a toilet paper holder into an IPOD ?this way i can listen to music on the crapper,
here are some other ideas that may help propagate the IPOD frenzy, Microsoft has given itself the task of being in your living room, why apple will be everywhere else
-toaster ipod
-leaf raker ipod
-tire pump ipod
-Dildo ipod (why not)
Apple has finally abandonned Firewire...
For the first time, no shipping iPod supports Firewire. Lets remember that the original iPod (which I still own) only supported firewire and did not have the special dock connector but a regular firewire socket on it. Seems like Apple has thrown in the towel. Its interesting to note that the new iMac G5 does not have firewire 800 either. And even the powermac has a single firewire 800 port (and 2 x 400)...
Even the new Monster universal connector thingumajig listed on the Apple car connector page won't connect your iPod to a Subaru. I've looked at so many after market connectors - none list Subaru. My iTrip rf transmitter is great (and so is my Subaru) but I sure would love a direct connection. Ah well... That's the beauty of all wheel drive.
I hope, I hope, I hope...
I HAVE NO INTEREST IN WATCHING LOST ON A 2.5" SCREEN! I WANT TO WATCH IT ON A LARGE SCREEN, AND NOT BY FIDDLING AROUND CONNECTING AN iPOD TO MY TV! I WANT THE FILES ON MY HOME MEDIA SERVER!
Wow ... I have a suggestion. Why not shout about your disastisfaction with a product you are not required to use in a forum where, I'm quite certain, thousands of others wish to hear you whining.
My seven year old child doesn't whine like that. And it's a damn good thing to, otherwise I'd have failed him.
The Luddites were ahead of their time.
See the original thread from the time of the original iPod launch.
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---Well, they are in the middle of a massive shift to intel x86 based processors. That might have something to do with it.---
If that's the case, then why upgrade the iMac now, the Mini a few weeks ago, the Xserve last month, and the iBook in July? None of these feature x86 processors yet, and they seem to have managed to increase performance for them.
And whatever happened to those dual core and low power G5 chips that IBM claimed to have?
I thought I heard something about an Apple ][ Mini. Pocket-size, VisiCalc, updated with AirPort and Bluetooth. Low power, ObjBASIC, 80x25 RSS feeds of PodCasts..
Universal dock + apple remote + ipod. The dock and remote plus the required a/v cable set costs less than a hundred bucks. That way dropping your ipod into the doc lets you sit across the room and control what sounds/pictures go out the wire into your home stereo setup and so on, similar to the way the airport express thing works now (at least the parts of that device that relate to the user pushing content to their home entertainment system).
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Is this going to cause companies to crack down even harder on tv show distribution via bittorrent?
Hey, perhaps this will allow that whole internet disributed fan financed "TV" show idea that gets dug up again every time someone's favorite cult show gets axed.
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DivX is a CODEC which implements the MPEG-4 bytestream format. Like XviD and the QuickTime MPEG-4 encoder, it produces MPEG-4 bytestreams of the form playable by the iPod (assuming it satisfies the bitrate / resolution constraints, and has an audio stream that the iPod can play, e.g. MPEG-4 AAC) and any other MPEG-4 player.
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...who is having touble finding the "video" section of the music store? I've upgraded to iTunes 6, but can't seem to find any links to the ABC content on the front page of the music store.
I would love to see Apple make iTunes work in a more friendly way with third party applications. For example, use iTunes to pull video from your MythTV down to your iPod.
The price point of the iPod has kept me away for a long time, but if I can start watching videos on it, I might finally break down and blow the dust out of my wallet.
The Bluetooth idea is very good. There are Bluetooth profiles for audio distribution and for audio remote control that could be employed. You'd just need to find a Bluetooth module that implements them. Rolling your own profile in software, starting from lower level on the stack is real PITA and serious time-to-market killer.
I am not a crackpot.
2x2=4
320x240=76800
640x480=307200 (VGA)
320x240 is QVGA for quarter VGA
it has 1/4 the pixels and data.
ok first of all, the ipod your car link looks the same now that it did for the past 6 months (except there is a new ipod shopped into the picture at the top)
there is a load of news that happened regarding apple, and the car shit has nothing to do with any of it.
you sir, are an idiot
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How, exactly, is a 2 minute song worth $0.99 while a 30 minute TV show can be had for $1.99 ? Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, I think it's the first under-priced "product" that Apple offers. Perhaps the commercials are included, I guess we'll see. Who am I kidding, I don't even own an iPod.
of my favorite TV shows. That would make the tv networks a lot of money -- I don't see why they don't all start doing this. For example, I love 24, but don't have time to watch it whwen it airs, and I don't have a DVR where I live now -- just a laptop with an internet connection. Let me pay a few dollars to download each week's episode at fairly high quality, and I'd do it for sure.
So what do we bitch about Apple not selling now? Can we bitch about DRM'd TV episodes as $1.99 a pop until we think of something? When does Napster come out with subscription service to TV shows?
From there, the sky's the limit, because you own purchased video forever. Watch as many times as you choose, share between five computers, burn to data CDs or sync to the new iPod.
Sounds like it's exactly like the DRM for music, except you can't burn actual DVDs. Until someone posts the workaround next week.
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It appears from the store that the eMac has been taken out of regular circulation. Now it's only in the education section.
I wonder if those videos will have commercials? Not that you couldn't skip those either now...
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Odd they don't have the voice interface people have been asking for yet, press and hold a button and talk and it chooses the song/movie or playlist. Or, rather than press & hold, work off a trigger word you specify (ipod play XYZ, ipod replay) or something .. though obviously a default of "ipod" is too common a word to be the trigger. And obviously it'll be possible to disable this feature when not needed.
Other wanted feature is ability to run your own applets.
What's stopping you from converting the videos yourself?
Yeah that price point is perfect for TV shows. On par with TV series DVDs where you can get a season for $30, a while after the initial release. Much better than many of the Anime studios that try and charge you over $5 an episode years after it has been released.
On the negative side, the DRM is the same as the thier music files, and is unacceptable to me. This is just because when I purchase something to put into my library I want it to last. I don't know where Apple and their proprietary DRM is going to be in 20 years. I don't know if I will be able to find devices to play it with. I don't know if I will be able to legaly transfer it to another format, and even if I did it would certainly loose quality do to the nature of lossy encoding.
So I think I will stay with DVD's for anything I want to purchase. While encumbered, the DRM is at least a wide spread industry standard if not an open one, and is licenced under a RAND policy not a proprietary one. I am sure I'll be able to find DVD players for years to come.
That said, the price point is low enough to where it is almost reasonable to buy media instead of renting it. And looking at it from the point of a rental, I don't have as big of a problem with DRM - the only problem is the proprietary nature creates vendor lock-in, I can't choose from dozens of players. It will be interesting to see what direction(s) the media markets move in. I have always assumed that a subscription system would rule IPTV, which would require even more lock-in and DRM to insure that you are only renting, not keeping the movies. But if the companies are truely enlightened enough to keep purchase prices down low enough, it could make the concept of rental obsolete. That is a really appealing idea - set the prices low enough that purchases would be far more impulsive and frequent.
Maybe it's because this article is quite new but why hasn't anyone actually said anything about the fact this is just a normal ipod with a 2.5"(!!) screen that can play video? If you want to watch videos on the move then why not go for a real PMP like anything from www.archos.com as they at least have a 3+" screen so you can actually see what you are trying to watch... I mean seriously a 2.5" screen and one video codec supported(?). This isn't exactly a great PMP, but ho hum, this is apple so I'm not surprised no one has critisized it
Why waste a DVD on 320x240 video? CDs will do fine. Apple saves on space and it saves time for consumers if the video is smaller.
Then again, if you take it in and ask nicely and they say "no", ask louder and gripe more. If they still say no, whine and cry and gripe and ask for the manager.
Then you'll be surprised. :)
I've been waiting a lot longer than 10 months for a PowerBook that was a significant improvement over the 1st Gen TiBook I currently use. The mere speedbumps along the way haven't been that impressive (oooh, backlit keyboard, that's worth $2500 to me!).
Whatever happened to the low power G5 chips IBM keeps swearing that they have?
The real story is content distribution. Apple just broke into the video distribution market in a huge way. Add this video itunes service with the new iMac remote control and you can guess were apple is headed. They are headed straight to your living room. MicroSoft has the same strategy to dominate the living room. MS has chosen another route with their Media Center version of Windows. I would say Apple just took a huge lead. It will be interesting how this play out...
Can does front row have Tivo like capabilities?
Seems like a good way to get content on that video ipod. I could record what I want and then dump it to my ipod for the ride to work.
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I want an ipod with built in card readers so that i can download pictures from my digicam to it. The old ipods are way to slow for practical use. If they can make it do this, then they would gain more users like me waiting for this great feature to come about.
This may change soon, but as of right now, the installer states that you need Quicktime 7.0.3 to view videos. I tried software update and had no luck. I went to the Apple download and update site to see if it was available. It wasn't.
If they are going to release something this huge, shouldn't they have made 7.0.3 immediately available?
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Home Theatre perfection.
... going to be purchasable as a software package? I've spent 2 years tinkering with a linux based PVR and finally have something working (I've been hacking together hardware, so don't take this as a thrust towards linux based pvr's). I'd like more, but the first one was a bit much and really more of the adventure then the destination type of thing, so why repeat it... well, a mac mini and this (in my car!!!) would be sweet! But will Apple release Front-Row as a standalone product!?!?
I guess Front-Row was the one of the only REAL surprises of the announcement.
A remote control and a built in camera don't strike me as that big of a deal.
And neither will do much for me on the road in the iMac form factor.
Just what everyone needs on our highways... video while driving. This is almost as good as drive through liquor stores!
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It looks like Apple's new product is lame compared with today's announcement of a Mini Media Player that interfaces with your PVR to download television! I wonder why that didn't get covered? No Slashdot mods own Dish Network stock?
iTunes 6 also includes 'Just For You (Beta)' which finally brings a recommendations system to iTunes.
On another note, I have to join the chorus on those that are saying ScuttleMonkey totally missed the boat on the description. The new iMacs/w integrated video camera and remote, FrontRow, downloadable TV shows, etc.
This is the first time I can remember to have gotten "unable to connect" and "network error" messages from Apple's server. And this just because of an article on Slashdot on iPod in cars!
The future is in beta
First and foremost I cannot find mention of PVR capability.
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The time has come for a major tech company to clamp the balls of the movie industry -- and SJ just did the job -- It SHOULD NOT in any way be illegat to transfer DVDs to this new device in the same way one can transfer CDs to an iPod of yesterday...but it is, while we are at it, it shouldnt be illegal to make a backup hardcopies of DVDs...If the law suets fly now, along with this, we may be able to get a few rights back.
Isn't it ironic? Where are the Ford, Chrysler, Chevrolet, Jeep, and CADILLAC?
>>the iPod keeps a record of maximum and minimum temperatures
>Any source for this tidbit?
The iPod Diagnostic menu.
Restart ("Select"+"Menu")
Press & hold the center button ("select") and the left button (">" buttons to navigate. Center button to select, play/pause button to exit.
Select "DRV TEMP" from the menu on the second page. Shows max, min and current temperatures.
Don't forget about the ESPN side of Disney/ABC. Sports highlights and games and such could be huge. Now when do we get our itunes iMUSICVIDEOPHONE?!? Steve? Motorola? Anyone? Can you call it the WOPR?
I really like the new iPods et al. but there's one thing I think is a major drawback-the lack of remote port. I like the remote itself, but more than that, a number of accessories (I own an iTrip and a Burton Amp Pack myself for my 3G iPod) which rely on the remote port. The iTrip I don't mind re-buying if need be, as it's only $35, but the Amp Pack costs almost as much as the iPod itself! Now, Burton may offer a way to buy the electronics portion (perhaps connecting to the dock port), but if not, my Amp Pack becomes much less useful if I ever want to upgrade my iPod.
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The Remote is a disappointment. It's basically a Shuffle with a menu button. Doesn't have the touch-sensitive wheel that makes navigating through long lists of songs such a pleasure. Of course, I haven't tried it with Front Row yet, but I'm not really looking forward to it due to the clunkiness of the design.
I hope you were drunk when you posted this, though being it's 4pm here, that'd be not such a good thing. What is a remote's #1 function? To control things, remotely. This remote successfully clears that barrier, and it looks good to boot. By not being a television set, it didn't need to include a scroll wheel to scroll through channels, or number buttons to get direct access to a channel. Instead, it's elegant, simple, and doesn't require a brain surgeon to program and use the thing. For once, a company stops trying to create a universal remote.
The only disappointing thing for me is its size. If it were smaller, I could put it on my keychain and turn off and on my computer and movies as I'm coming in from work. But, then again, this would go against a lot of things Apple stands for, and I can understand why they didn't go this route (especially people driving cars that already have keychain dongles, garage door dongles, flashlights, and whatever other keyhooks they might have).
A remote control doesn't need a touch sensitive wheel; that's un-nessicary cost, especially for a default menu that has 4 options, for DVDs that usually have 4 option menus, etc.
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If the video thing catches on, I wonder if the next step for iPod might be to go to something PDA-like. Having IR in iPods would be useful for syncing and iPod-TV (wasn't there something on here about really fast IR awhile ago?)... the ability to add programs would be another cool step, although a keyboard would mess-up the design so perhaps they'd have to be simpler, shuffle-button programs.
Folks wanted a video iPod for a long time. Maybe you didn't. But it has been requested and desired as soon as the iPhoto came out. Parents really want to show videos of their kids. Would I watch Jumanji or Twister on it? No. You also missed that they shrunk it down again. The 20GB is less than 1/2" thick. This is an improvement to the existing iPod line. It still has room to grow. It is still better than the competitors.
However..
You are seriously missing the big picture.
Apple has built a web, a network, of interconnected products, content, and services that has Apple at its heart. Cars with *iPod-only* connectors. iTunes, already the biggest distributor of legally downloaded music, now selling *current* TV shows. iTunes runs on Mac *and Windows*. iPods already have 75% of the mp3 player market, and they *only work with iTunes*. What's next? Well, Apple has built the remote already...
Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts.
Check it out:
http://www.apple.com/ipod/ipod.html
has the u2 videos and a QTVR
What amazes me is that Disney (owner of ABC), which was the last major media company to start selling DVDs, was the first company to provide downloadable video to Apple this way.
Granted their partnership with Jobs' Pixar Animation Studios was probably a big reason they agreed, but nevertheless -- this is a big switch (IMO) from the Disney I used to know. Hopefully it won't be long before other studios and networks see the download numbers for "Lost" and jump in. I bet if HBO can be persuaded to offer their shows on the iTMS (iTunes Media Store, now, I suppose), sales at the Store would skyrocket.
Go have a look.
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'Cause you know, I get really bored when I'm driving alone, and it would be really great if I had something to WATCH to help pass the time!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Has anyone even looked at the pictures for the Front Row application on Apples website?
It's almost a pixel for pixel port of Media Center Edition for Windows. I guess it isn't always Windows copying off of Apple.
How is an encumbered DVD, with its CSS DRM that you can bypass with DeCSS, different from Apple's AVC (H.264) with FairPlay DRM, which can be similarly bypassed?
With a DVD, you'd have to rip it, then reencode it into DIVIX or something appropriate for a portable, which takes a LONG time. Apple's solution seems rather smart, and looks like a very natural extension of the iTMS.
I like options:
If you want high quality media, you continue buying CDs and DVDs, and rip them yourself at whatever bitrate makes you happy.
If you want the convenience of an online store (the new "Just for you - Beta" looks pretty cool) and instant access to lots of pop content, you can pay a small fee and download smallish, ready to go files.
Apple is offering both options to fit the desires of a broad swath of people.
Compare this to Microsoft's WMP, which sought to kill MP3s entirely, and replace them with locked up WMA files with brutal restrictions, and very limited playback options.
I got a Mac, and was not too surprised to see that iTunes 6 wasn't under Software Update. So I downloaded it from http://www.apple.com/itunes/ and had no installation problems, but when I started the new app it told me I needed to download Quicktime 7.0.3 -- from Software Update. Which didn't have it yet.
Fortunately, the Apple Quicktime page at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/ did have it for download, albeit without any fanfare.
Just an FYI for ambitious upgraders.
anyone else think a 2.5" screen is a little small to really enjoy watching video? I'm all about watching tv shows on my own time. thats why i MythTV. i dont need to take the mindless episodes with me everywhere i go. neet toy. but thats it, a toy.
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Can we just import apropirately formatted video into these new iPods? What is the format? Do you have to import via iTunes? I'd LOVE to be able to put some of my TiVo'd shows into a video ipod and watch them durning my commute. It'd eat battieries I'm sure, but that's okay. So again I say: what's the video format?
This looks damn cool. But I've seen similar things before--friends have had mp3 players with video screens, and so on, and in all cases, video had to be reencoded to be watched. Is that still true? Because I've got a couple hundred gigabytes of...ahem...perfectly legal video data ripped off DVDs I own as backups...and while it'd be awesome to be able to just seamlessly drop my Scrubs/Buffy/NIN videos onto a new iPod and watch it (2 inch screen isn't great, but better than nothing) if I have to reencode it for a couple hours first, then count me out...
Here in Collie-Foneya, it's been illegal for a year or two to have video screens in the front seat of a car, except for a few applications like navigation systems and rear-view-camera displays. You can have video in the back seat, to keep your kids entertained (probably a *positive* safety feature), but not the front. Using the iPod to feed a backseat display would probably be ok; using it to play music in the front is probably ok. But playing videos in the front seat is illegal.
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When apple came out with Quicktime 7.0.2 many mac users had problems with MATLAB and other programs. I specifically had problems with MATLAB (would crash on start) the fix was to roll back to 7.0.1 using a reinstaller on apple's website. Anyways this new Itunes 6 seems to update to 7.0.3 (thats what is says on my xp box)- I don't know if it will cause problems. Mac users might want to check www.macfixit.com to see if their programs are affected. For myself I am just going to avoid upgrading- as I need to use MATLAB more than I need to watch Lost!
Yah, it was pretty much a horrible summary. My guess is _am99_ couldn't keep his cock in his pants and posted that as soon as the ipod was announced, which was the first of 3 or 4 somewhat major announcements. Luckily the slashdot editors are lazy bastards and didn't go out and see if anything else was announced. I think frontrow is a lot more interesting than the stupid iPod video... wow I can watch video on a 2.5" screen, that's so amazing.... ho hum.. :P
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To me $1.99 seems like a lot to pay for somthing everyone is used to getting for free. Sure its minus commercials, but I really dont see it being sustainable as software DVR is becoming more popular. Its uncommon for me to watch a tv episode more than once or twice so i see no point in 'owning' a tv episode. It is legal to record a tv show when your intent is to watch it at another time.
Well, Apple now has the full Steve Wonder collection on iTunes. I am sure Stevie is THRILLED with the new iPod Video!
Only in North America, it seems. The UK iTunes 6 only offers music videos and shorts.
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Nobody has pointed this out so far...what has happened to
Stop what Linus called the "yanking" and start reading, and only posting when you have something interesting to say.
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As long as I can put my own videos (e.g. recorded with a TV capture card) on the iPod, this is awesome. If it's for the store only, forget it.
You can add any digital video to iTunes 6 (and to iTunes 5?), as long as it's Quicktime-playable. Presumably anything you have in iTunes will then sync with your iPod. So yeah, it looks like any video you record yourself can go to your video iPod.
"ABC has LOST and Desperate Housewives up for $1.99 in itunes right now..."
Too bad the BBC were too stupid to go in on the ground floor and offer *Doctor Who* for commercial download here in the States through iTunes. You'd think they'd have a clue considering they hosted this presentation via videofeed in the U.K., but alas, no clue.
Way to let the fan base down, Beeb. Or is it dweeb?
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Thinner, no, but any chance a brand-new color iPod could be upgraded to video? The screen resolutions and capacities are similar.
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Presumably this means that they're going to come up with new USB drivers for OS X that actually work reliably. I can't wait!
Wow, aquachannel must be pretty slow to posting news. There isn't a single new car added since over a week ago.
I wonder why the Prius hasn't been added yet?
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IBM announced that they existed after Apple announced the Intel switch. Why would IBM go public with such a huge lie?
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Thanks to the Apple Herd Effect, I assume there will now be a critical mass of video-enabled personal media devices. Welcome, it's been a lonely three years or so without you on the bleeding edge.
Anyway, now I assume that video RSS downloads, ala "podcasts", will now gain traction. What to call them? Will they still be "podcasts", or "vidcasts", or "podvids"?
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I bet if you walk into that store tomorrow, you'll still see some eMacs. At a reduced price, as well. There were plenty of minis lying around a week after the Nanos were announced. Perhaps Apple will give you a refund of the difference between what you paid and the new clearance price.
"LOST" is not something I'd put on a video player, since I currently use my iPod for long plane trips.
But hey, that's just me!
Imagine someone driving to work, doing her make up, drinking a cup of coffee, talking on the phone all while catching up on the latest episode of Days of Our Lives. There are some places technology like this becomes more of a distraction than entertainment.
Oops! I was watching my iPod video instead of paying attention to the road. I think the Apple engineers are spending too much time influencing the Darwin awards.
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Except for Apple ads of course.
That's an opportunity to spread blogs to home-grown audio (I'm listening to Otaku Generation as I write this) to video (I wish I could remember the URL) to media in general.
Screw Rupert Murdoch, the **AAs and the labels.
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i guess they expect most people will connect through highspeed
or wireless, because they put in the video camera, and pulled out
the modem (its now an external usb adaptor cable).
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TV is much more national. For example, I haven't even heard of most of the programmes that are being offered on the iPod, let alone have any desire to see them. (The last US programme I watched at all regularly was, erm, ST:TNG...)
Any ideas how long it'll be before we'll be able to see UK TV programmes featured?
Ceterum censeo subscriptionem esse delendam.
I mean, why not? (When enough people think that way and get some iTMS-like [or even the iTMS] to put them out, the **AAs are DEAD!)
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What's the big deal about cars that work with an iPod? I can use my girlfriend's iPod in my car just fine and it pre-dates the iPod by several years.
I think it's a testament to the degree to which the iPod has entered mainstream culture that shortly after Apple's announcement the new video-capable iPod is covered on the main pages of the websites of major news organizations such as BBC, CNN, and the New York Times.
Anyone else notice that the new iMac G5's have dropped the modem? There's a usb modem option for $49. Blazing ahead.
by http://slashdot.org/~Ars-Fartsica
"Raise your hand if you have iTunes ...
Raise your hand if you have a FireWire port ...
Raise your hand if you have both ...
Raise your hand if you have $400 to spend on a cute Apple device ...
There is Apple's market. Pretty slim, eh? I don't see many sales in the future of iPod."
by http://slashdot.org/~LoudMusic
Goofy internal projects, expensive gaffes trying to "diversify" into areas it has only a tenuous relationship to, a complete inability to understand markets, and a constitutional immunity against learning from their mistakes. There is no future in a $400 (about $250 too expensive) firewire-only (5% of computer users) hardrive-based (read: fragile) mp3 player. Any one of these critical flaws might doom the product - take them all together and you have another classic corporate farce. When you see silliness on this level, though, normally you expect to see a raging egotist who is immune to common sense and criticism in some position of power in the company... oh wait, Steve Jobs. Never mind. This just reinforces my steadily growing sense of foreboding about Apple. Yes, I've said this before and been wrong, but I'll say it again anyway. They're living on borrowed time."
by http://slashdot.org/~DaveWood
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There are laws against running streaming video in the front seat of a car. There is no way this will take off from the vehicle manufactures.
Maybe I'm a little late on the uptake here, but did anyone else notice that you can preview whole music videos on iTunes?
NMG
Unless I'm mistaken, this looks to be the end for FireWire syncing with your iPod--it already wasn't compatible with either the Shuffle (natch), but also won't sync (but will charge) the "nano".
The product spec page for this new iPod doesn't mention firewire sync capability, and it doesn't list the cable as an approved accessory. Too bad--one of the neat features of the iPod was that you could boot from it, with a FireWire connection; but I guess that's no more.
Worse, are those Mac users--among them, myself--who have 3 year old Macs with either a) FireWire or b) USB 1.1. I guess it's no new iPods for me ;(
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The genius move with the video iPod is that it's not a separate range. From now on, the regular iPod plays video too. That means that millions of people who would have just bought an iPod are now getting a video iPod. Millions will by a video player almost by default.
Up until now, no-one has managed to shift portable video players because the customer doesn't see a need for them. But some time someone will work out how to make video on the move work, whether it's as a mobile movie library or some watch-on-the-move content. When that time comes, Apple will be in an unassailable position because they will have a virtual stranglehold on the videoplayer market already.
You have to hand to Steve.
The author of this post asserts his moral rights.
Goddamit! That TV license makes me a shareholder! Auntie Beeb better stick it right proper to the Americans and give us all rebates! Oh, and put all the existing content online for free for the people who paid for it in the first place!
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Wonder why the reverted to the hard/sharp edges of the original iPod? I like the roundcube version better...
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I just downloaded Lost. I figured $1.99 was worth seeing the video quality, finding out out the file size, and watching my favorite TV show of the season while I work. ;-)
;-) ). The video is very watchable.
The file is indeed 320x240, and for 43 minutes and change, is 197 megabytes. The download took a little time; I'm not sure how much since I forgot to clock it.
The video is compressed very well. It looks clear and crisp, and the audio sounds great. In fact, I scaled it up to full screen and had a cluster of people watching a few choice scenes (we were trying to identify the manufacturer of the reel-to-reel drives
This will be interesting... I wonder what sorts of bonus material they will include?
Also, its interesting to note that video is not very well integrated into iTunes (for Windows). For example, when I right-click on the file, it still says "Show Song File." Also, you'd think that Apple, being Apple, would stick my downloaded videos into another folder than "My Music" in "My Documents."
These are small things. However, these are the things that Apple generally gets right.
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Why, oh why, oh why doesn't Apple offer an 1080 HD capable iMac? This is for the living room, right? Apple's 16:10 ratio would be a 1920x1200 display to show High Definition. Instead, buyers get to choose between 1440x900 (17" display), or 1680x1050 (19").
The machines specs are nice enough: 1.9 or 2.1 GHz 64-bit G5, 512 MB RAM, built-in VGA camera (640x480), 802.11g wireless networking, gigabit ethernet, Radeon X600 Pro or XT with 128 MB on PCI-Express. 160 or 250 GB SATA HD. Slot-loading 8x SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW). No Modem. $1299 or $1699.
I think I'm still looking for a machine with the same power as an iMac in a shoe-box sized case with no display. Sitting next to my Linux box, with a KVM switch.
Strange that at the same time they released a video-capable iPod, they release an iMac with a built-in webcam. It's the ultimate porn combo!
"when I put a new DVD into my computer, will it rip the DVD into a format i can put on my ipod?"
Nope--primarily, I imagine, because ripping DVDs is illegal in the US because of the DMCA. --you are circumventing the copy protection. Stupid, I know, especially when you supposedly own the DVD.
I have a couple concert DVDs that I wanted ripped, so I used MacTheRipper. Works quite well. After ripping, you'll need to translate the mpeg2 (or is it 1?) DVD video into either H.264 or MPEG4 (plus aac-lc (whatever -LC is) for audio). Dunno what shareware can do that.
Also, from the apple page specs, the ipod's decoder can handle only up to 480x480 MPEG4 or 320x240 H.264. Not exactly full rez.
I purchased a video from the store and opened it with QuickTime. The video scales with incredible resolution. I had it open full screen on my 17" LCD display and the quality was incredible. So don't open the purchased videos with iTunes, open it in QuickTime and view it full screen with great resolution.
Ok, it looks a bit different, I'll give Apple that....But I would like an application that manages both my music and my movies (divx,xvix, etc...). Apple came a step closer with iTunes 6, but it looks like only for movies I download from iTMS. That is lame.
"Some fight for law. Some fight for justice. What will you fight for? One day, you will see."
Sounds like it's exactly like the DRM for music, except you can't burn actual DVDs. Until someone posts the workaround next week.
If it is quicktime video all you have to do is just convert it to an *.m2v or some other MPeg2 format. You can buy a Quicktime codec to do this or use Final Cut Pro. Then you have make a DVD image through some type of program than can ecode a DVD disc. (like DVD Studio) If you actually have paid for DVD Studio Pro you can then burn it to DVD. Otherwise, you can use roxio to burn the image and I think later macs support this nativley...
However, you can most likely find third party apps to do this all for free because if you actually paid for Final Cut Pro and DVD studio like I did then you out of $2,000 right then and there and just to make DVD out of stuff you download from the net is just not worth that price tag (making your own videos/movies is, but I sometimes wonder why I didn't just buy alcohol instead seeing my creative talent was not that great)
However it would have just been nice if Apple supports burning to DVDs through iDVD, but I doubt it.
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Well, there's MPEG4, MPEG4 and MPEG4
And MPEG4 !
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Its a MAC - who cares about them ;)
(Apple aren't takin on microsoft, they haven't the stats - now Google on the other hand...)
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Is anyone else tired of having to remove the System Tray and Quick Launch icons that get installed everytime you update iTunes? They used to be nice enough to give you an option they would just ignore. Now they give you no option and just do it. If Microsoft did this shit you'd be all over them.
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IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Softened window corners. Check.
:-)
Fixed bug where you could only see shared music if you had the radio turned on in prefs. Check.
Ability to disable music store and any new video features in prefs. Check.
Overall a great update
Interestingly, with iTunes 5.0.1 already installed on my Mac, iTunes 6 is only a 618 kB upgrade as shown by the installer! This means that almost all of the content is already there, as has been indicated by rumor sites and people noticing video icons etc. inside the package.
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*yawn* ipod connectivity make me buy a car not
Let's not forget that Disney/ABC owns ESPN, so maybe it won't be long before sporting events are part of the lineup.
I'm in a frelling cult, you insensitive clod!
Shop as usual. And avoid panic buying.
It's called HandBrake and it works awfully well, actually. I'm ripping most of my DVD collection with it just for convenience. H.264 encoding is slow, but it works, and you can pick any destination rez you want... it has a very nice interface. I can't wait to try some of its output on one of these iPods...
Why do you have to be a "gun advocate" or a "gun opponent"? Why can't you be reasonable and just accept that there are places where guns are safe and/or necessary, and places where they are completely unacceptable? Ranchers need guns. Hunters need guns. In New York City, even the cops shouldn't be allowed to have guns. How can you justify guns in a setting so crowded that there is a good chance of hitting someone unintentionally?
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Will older iPods support video at all through a firmware upgrade? What happens if you download a video to an older iPod? They have lower resolution screens but could still show something.
The nano doesn't have TV out, but the new universal dock has S-video out. If you drop a nano onto it, can you display photos from it on a TV?
At some point resistance is futile, just buy iPod + nano + Airtunes Express + iMac and worship Jobs (I'm not being sarcastic!). One missing piece is an iMac or Mac mini doesn't function as a PVR (although my Windows XP desktop with ATI All-in-Wonder crashes whenever I schedule a TV recording).
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Handbrake will rip DVDs to MP4 or H.264, and it's free.
"# Voice recording settings:
* Low (22.05 KHz, mono)
* High (44.1 KHz, stereo)"
44.1kHz stereo too... ive always had a grudge that something this high tech cant record (without some other dongle), though in all likelihood its just a bogus extra option for when you do have _that_ dongle attached.
Even though a lot of you seem to be bitching and moaning about the quality of the video encoding encoding, I think we're missing the so called "bigger picture" here. The ThinkSecret article pointed out that there would be another iPod released later on in the year with a widescreen display and presumably with better encoding. Now while I don't have any evidence other than this article to support that, it would stand to reason from a marketing perspective that Apple would hold out on rolling that better version out, because you don't roll out the best product that you have and then be left without anything to build on it. :).
So I think that they released this version as a primer for consumers, to get them accustomed to video on their iPod's, and then when they release the widescreen higher res version, people will be more willing to buy it.
Just my take on it though
"The boy is dangerous, they all sense it, why can't you?"
Oops, didn't see the double encoding typo till I posted it. Ah well, repeating things adds emphasis right :)?
"The boy is dangerous, they all sense it, why can't you?"
There have been video players of all denominations (including portable TVs) for ages, I don't see everybody using one of those.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
One of the new features just introduced in the iTunes Music Store is "just for you" (beta) - a suggestion service which, given a record of what music purchases you've already made, will list some other albums you might like to try.
Apple, being Apple, have approached this problem in a different way to the rest of the industry. Where their more pedestrian competitors might offer albums similar to the ones you already own, Apple's groundbreaking system leads me in a much more creative and original direction, offering albums from genres entirely unlike the albums I've bought so far.
You bought The Shadows, Live at the Paris Olympia. We recommend Basement Jaxx, Kish Kash.
You bought Vangelis, Heaven & Hell. We recommend Motörhead, Iron Fist.
I think the internet will soon be abuzz with compliments to this most innovative scheme.
Well, of course I did not RTFA, but do you actually have to have the new iPod to view the video/tv content, or can you purchase it and view it in the new iTunes on a monitor, or through some other viewer on a PC. I have an iPod Shuffle but the screen resolution is very poor.
Nicko McBrian from Iron Maiden refers to it as the "Bleedin' Bodge-up Company".
All available data suggest that regardless of any of this, the sun will still come up tomorrow.
From the iTunes 6 readme - "After purchasing music from the iTunes Music Store with iTunes 6, you will also need to upgrade your other computers that purchase music from the iTunes Music Store to iTunes 6"
Is this something new? I have an old computer running iTunes 4.8, and I'd rather not upgrade unless I find something worth upgrading for. I'd like to give iTunes 6 a spin on my iBook, though.
Have they upgraded the DRM or something?
i forget
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All available data suggest that regardless of any of this, the sun will still come up tomorrow.
Oh hell, this is terrible, now I'll never get any work done! At least with music and podcasts I could work and listen at the same time. But with video, no way! Now my after hours productivity, when I get most of my work done anyway, will be shot to hell! Note to Steve: Oh please oh please don't put last season's Battlestar Galactica and Firefly up on iTMS!
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The main thing I buy on the iTMS is songs from the back-catalog, that I just can't find in a record store. I never had a copy of "A Whiter Shade of Pale" or "Stagger Lee" before the iTMS went live.
If the iTMS offered up a box set of 100 Looney Toons, I'd be all over that. No matter how many times I watch The Rabbit of Seville, it still cracks me up.
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One thing I noted was that I couldn't find a way to get the video to full screen from within iTunes. I opened the file from my paid copy of Quicktime to go full screen.
Anyway, as you say, the compression is impressive. For 100mb less than what you'll find on bittorrent (albiet not in 16:9) you get the whole program without ads, and also (and this is in my opinion pretty big) no intrusive messages along the bottom or top of the screen placed by the television network. It's one of the most obnoxious and annoying practices on U.S. TV (a network bloated with advertising places MORE advertising along the screen's margins during programming? No thanks.) If you were to download what is basically a TV rip from Bittorrent, these advertisements are unavoidable even if the normal ads are cut.
The quality looks just as good as what you're likely to find on BT, as is the sound. I even put it on fullscreen on my 23" cinema display, it still looks great. I give this a thumbs up. Not having seen more than a couple epsidoes of the original Lost, I'm tempted by the $34 download of season 1, a little cheaper than the DVD, but no extra features and lower res... Decisions decisions...
Yup...
unlikely. Have you any idea how complex sports licenesing is for video? There would be so many restrictions on this it would be very difficult to implement. Besides, not as many people want to watch a recorded football/baseball game.
cool--thanks! It even does audio transcoding.
One thing that annoys me about Lost is that I don't have an HD TV and I have to see it in fullscreen. Would be great if the ipod version was widescreen. Is it?
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As I posted 4 days ago, Steve Jobs said in the keynote last year that he had some reasons to not release a video iPod.
Size -- other poratables are too big.
Weight -- they also also too heavy.
Content -- there is no content to put on it. Copyright issues are everywhere!
Output screens -- they are simply too small for video.
"So how could that change?" I asked.
Simple!
The iPod video is smaller than the previous iPod photo; it is also lighter.
In terms of content, Steve Jobs has managed to secure a couple of deals to get music videos and TV shows into the iTunes store, and has provided home-grown content in the form of video pod casts. To help facilitate the production of video podcasts, he has included the iSight into every new iMac.
Watching the video is also as he wanted -- you can watch it on your computer in a unified interface via front row (with remote!), watch it directly on the iPod, or even watch it on a TV-out cable they have for the iPod video.
I think it also hints at where he'll be going in a few years. Now that you can get a nice H.264 movie trailer on your TV via front row, who's to say you won't be able to buy a complete movide for 6-8$? I'd love to be able to get a high quality, digital movie online. New release movies on DVD are about 20-30$ CAD -- too much for what you get. Hell, I could go to the theatre for less even with watery drink!
But if I could get movies that just came out for 6-8$ and watch them on my wonderful home theatre, I think I'd do it. I'm not too into 2$ music videos, but 2$ for a TV show isn't too bad. Why should I spend 80-100$ on a DVD box set of a TV show, when I'd much rather have a digital version of it for 20-30$.
With no manufacturing costs, the content providers get all the money -- no more middle men in China making all the DVDs and shipping them back and forth across the ocean!
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Hey people,
Do any of you know whether or not the new Griffin iTrip FM transmitter will be availble in black to better match the black 5th gen Ipod when it starts shipping later this month? The website doesn't even offer much info about the white finish pictured.
Is there anything I should know about when selecting a FM transmitter for my car. Although I'd rather make the connection via cable to my factory stereo, the cost of doing so seems to be ridiculously high. Perhaps I not finding the right webpages.
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Yeah, from what I've read it's just fairplay applied to video. About a week to compile a compatible version of JHymn and post it online sounds about right.
why did no one state the obvious? 1.99 for a whole show and its still 99 cents for a song?
Are you listening? Sell me episodes. Now. Not 25 fucking dollars for an import dvd with 2 episodes. Internet. 2 dollars.
Now.
with viMacs.
When MP3 players first came out - Specifically the iPod - purchases of actual CDs plummetted. Most of the music buying market does it online now. Will it be the same for movies? I for one hope to see this as the end of the HD-DVD/BluRay feuds... Well, one can hope :)
Oh, and Sony's PSP is more or less screwed. For $300 you can get a PSP with a 512MB memory stick and then buy movies for $10... or you could get an iPod with 60 times that much space for the same price and buy movies for $2.
A wise man once said, "wtf h4x."
It doesn't really matter because an iMac is dorm room home theater at best. How far away will you be sitting from a 17" display? The keyboard will be close enough if you need it.
Whenever I hear the word 'Innovation', I reach for my pistol.
Although it didn't make a windfall for Gateway, Dell is now selling 42" plasma TVs for $2600.
How wonderful if Apple would make one with the same form and price, but with iMac internals added.
This isn't innovation...MovieLink.com has offered downloads of movies for sale for years and their quality is better. There have been myriads of video players. I had one of the first gen ones, the Archos JBM 20...funny how in 3 years, the only difference is that the video ipod's screen is a little bigger.
I hope this doesn't take off because it will lock in a niche market since video encoding is time consuming so I could see people buying episodes and also buying the CD because they don't know how to convert it.
Guys, this isn't cool. They're trying to erase fair use and make legit activity seem illegal.
Help me out, because I'm genuinelly curious. For four more dollars you get the DVD with no DRM, which you can rip with free software down to a portable format, which comes on its own physical media in case you ever have to free up some harddrive space, which has all the extras (if you care). So in other words, you spend an extra 4 dollars and you get both versions.
I don't get why you'd even consider the download. I see the value added in buying tonights episode of Lost if you missed it and want to watch it on the train tomorrow, but once it's out on DVD I'd need a much better price break than 11%... personally I would've expected pay per view kind of prices, 3-5 bucks for a movie, maybe 10 bucks for a season of Lost, I dunno if that would even cover cost of bandwidth, but it's about what it's worth IMO.
Now, the real nice gadget is the Tivo (or whatever DVR) to IPod dock, so people who already have a DVR can take their TV shows on public transit and airplanes and such without paying again.
I already downloaded and watched the pilot of Night Stalker. The quality was *just* good enough to be decent on my 12" PowerBook at full screen, and really nice at double size.
I expect this will look great on the iPod. The download was about 5 or 6 minutes. That's a while, but bearable.
I think Apple have a winner with this, and ABC will make a large chunk of change at $1.99 x many downloads of the available material. Hopefully we will soon see other networks such as Fox and CBS jumping onto this, since they will not want to get left on the sidelines.
I bet this was a really near thing for Apple, since there would not be nearly as good a story if ABC had not been on board.
Ordering a black vPod was a no-brainer since I bet they will be in short supply come Christmas and will be at a premium on eBay.
-- "It's not stalking if you're married!" My Wife.
Double-click to get a separate quicktime window from iTunes, then right-click or ctrl-click on the title bar and click 'full screen'.
Hey presto, full screen video.
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Well, the reason I'd consider it is that it's just so damn convenient. However, I've also considered your points and I agree with you. Buying the DVD is a much better value when all is said and done. (I'm actually going to borrow the first season DVD from a friend. If I find that I can't live without it, I'll buy it.)
Before downloading the first episode of Lost I'd never even seen it, and I wouldn't have bothered to buy, rent, or borrow it. I've downloaded the second episode on the strength of that, but as I said, I'm going to borrow the DVD. The point is that this is a great way to check out TV shows that I wouldn't watch otherwise and wouldn't go out of my way to watch.
I normally watch very very little TV; one hour a week for me is a lot. I discontinued my cable last spring. TIVO isn't interesting to me because I don't watch enough TV to warrant owning a PVR (The idea of TIVO is interesting to me however). So, something like this is perfect. even if I never buy a Video iPod.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
It's a sad day when you hear tech news on National Public Radio before you hear it on /. I mean, NPR even has a podcast now. Does /.? No. Probably because the editors really ARE monkeys, and cannot speak properly.
Didn't Pixar decline to renew their contract with Disney?
Yes, because Jobs and Eisner hated each other (and from what Eisner has done to Disney I'd say he wins the lothesome person award by a mile).
However Pixar and Disney are talking again because Eisner is gone, as in not even on the board anymore. I'm sure that's what made this deal possible.
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Apple have been pretty smart with this new iPod. The old mantra is "no-one wants to watch a movie on a portable player". Might be true - but Apple have sidestepped that issue by selling TV shows, not movies, at launch. TV shows are shorter (less tiring to watch on a small screen, quicker to download) and more profitable (TV shows already make money through advertising - this is just extra cash for them); and they don't compete so directly with DVDs like downloadable movies do (most of these shows will be offered for download before they're even available on DVD).
Very smart.
Now where is Galactica and 24???
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Can it be IR? Really? Apple using outdated tech... what's next, the Vinyl iPod.
OK, IR uses very little battery-power. That's the only plus I can see. Bluetooth is the industry standard and all new macs have it.
At the moment I use my SE K750i as a remote for my PowerBook and look forward to using the Front Row interface with it.
Question is will Apple allow this or do we need to buy 20th century add-ons and remotes we can't use in the next room?
I just built a system with 2-3x power on all specs (except the hd, I'll be adding a raid array later), for 4-500 less than this system. The 17" LCD isn't very desirable at $130, but people do buy them at that price. Bottom line? There's no reason at all that you should be paying $1300 for a computer with under 1gb of ram, especially in this time of superbloat. Semi-sane, yes. I'm just very happy with transparent case complete with overclock components, and all the extras.
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Id much rather plug a tuner card into my computer and have iTunes record the show for me, rather than paying $2 for something I could have gotten for free. I won't even mention synching with my DVR since Jobs won't support any device that isn't an Apple device. Who the hell wants to own most tv shows anyway. I usually delete them after Im through watching them.
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i don't have cable. i cannot afford it since i just bought a condo. it's great being able to watch the new episode of LOST for just two bucks.
Why by a whole new friggin car? How about I just buy a stereo like this?
I like my Honda like it is. Old, beat up, fuel efficient, and best of all...paid for.
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If the insanely unlikely were to occur--that is, if somehow, despite all the technical, logistical, and legal considerations, it were somehow possible to download full episodes of the Daily Show to the new video iPod the same day they aired on cable, then I would buy one.
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The UK store doesn't have the TV shows. Not surprising since two of them, Lost and Desperate Housewives are both behind the US schedule and ABC would not want to lose potential broadcast revenue. It would be interesting to see whether I can purchase from the US store.
For 100mb less than what you'll find on bittorrent (albiet not in 16:9) you get the whole program without ads, and also (and this is in my opinion pretty big) no intrusive messages along the bottom or top of the screen placed by the television network. [...] If you were to download what is basically a TV rip from Bittorrent, these advertisements are unavoidable even if the normal ads are cut.
I've never seen any "intrusive messages" in downloaded versions of Lost. The only thing marring those HDTV rips is a transparent ABC logo in the corner of the screen, but otherwise, the quality is far better than you can get from 320x240. It might just be a matter of time before the networks start cluttering up HDTV broadcasts with banner ads.. but for now, BitTorrent still seems like a better deal.
Don't bother downloading the first season for $34, just get the DVDs. You can compress them down if you want to watch TV on the train or something, but still watch it at DVD resolution (and at the correct aspect ratio) when you're at home.
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197MB? I don't think will be much use for those of us without broadband. What are we supposed to do when all the TV comes over the Internet? And does this mean people are going to have to drag their computers into the living room, then put them next to the TV, making the room look a mess?
Video over Internet might be the future, but knowing how over-engineered, over-complex and unreliable computers are, I don't look forward to it. It's pretty easy to turn on the TV, whereas watching TV via the computer is a chore. Also TV doesn't cost $2 a programme. Eventually you'll be able to get the DVD for that price.
Perhaps 10-20 years in the future, there'll be unlimited broadband in every home like electricity or water. Then TVs will be Internet-enabled, you plug them into the Internet rather than an aeriel, then it automatically streams the TV. But technology isn't anywhere near that advanced yet.
Cheap shot: If they got rid of all the meaningless, empty filler scenes from Lost, maybe they could get the file size down to about 5MB.
valid points. I would however point out that i do value my own time, and time spent a the computer. Ripping DVDs, compressing, and managing those files is a cumbersome process, that takes-up too much my precious time, and eventually clobbers my hard drive far more than what i'll get off iTunes.
but in the end, i need Apple to come-up with something similar to/better than Windows Media Center, i need a reasonably cheap external device where all that "Media" will live.
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The BBC seems to have taken a decision to go down this route long before 'Apple got a big content provider to agree to a different distribution method to broadcast TV'
I noticed the same thing: You bought Orff: Carmina Burana. We recommend Black Eyed Peas:[whatever the new BEP album is].
.25 stars for the first burn, and .1 for each additional. .05 stars. .25 stars. Skipping after 10 seconds but before the last 10 seconds lowers its ranking by .05 stars. .5 stars
I'm thinking it must be a profiling system built on an odd sampling of data. The idea is that most people who buy from iTMS probably have 98% of their music on (and ripped from) CDs. Thus, they are only buying things that fill odd holes in their collection. Songs or albums they remember from their childhood and don't have on CD, ultra-new stuff they won't bother buying on CD, stuff they have on vinyl and which they are not inclined to digitize...
I'm pretty much a rock-and-roll and indies kind of guy, but the odd holes I'm filling include: Orff, Hall and Oates, Fiona Apple's new album, Spearhead, and Cat Stevens Greatest Hits.
The problem is that this is not only not representative of any group, it's not even really representative of my tastes today. It's representative of whims and nostalgia. I'm sure that lots of people bought Orff who also bought BEP, but that may be more of coincidence than reliable profile data.
What would be more interesting would be if they could grab people's libraries and see what people actually have on their systems, not just what they bought on their store. I'm sure that some people would be hesitant to let Apple have that information, but from a technical standpoint, it would let them build a much better profile of what ownership of one album might imply about other albums someone might like.
In fact, if they could combine that with play volumes and rating information, that could be awesome. I have three Tom Waits albums, but one of them (Blood Money) get's almost no play, and one of them I could listen to almost any time. The fact that I have them isn't a strong recommendation, but the fact that one of them really stands out as something I listen to a lot could be a recommendation, not only on its own, but in combination with other albums I listen to often.
Along those lines, I would also like to see them get rid of the manual ranking system. I don't have time or inclination to label favorites. I think there are ways to do this automatically. To wit:
- If you put a song into one or more playlists it gets at least two stars (.25 extra stars for each list it's in above one).
- If you burn a list that the song is in, the song gets an extra
- Each time you let the song play all the way through, it gets an additional
- Each time you skip a song within the first 10 seconds, lower its ranking by
- Each time you listen to a song more than once in a row, increase its ranking by
I'm sure this list could be extended and refined, but that would be a great way to auto-rank songs, ongoing. It would let the system keep up with a person's tastes (i.e. I'm sick of that song, so I'll skip it), and it could also be used for better profiling.
I know, I know... there's privacy issues there. But I would totally be willing to share this information if it would help me find music that I (a) will like and (b) wouldn't have found otherwise.
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I've seen the HD H.264 Serenity trailer play well on an iMac G5 at the local Apple Store.... which is at least double the quality of DVD. it certainly is unplayable on my Powerbook, but I'm curious why an even smaller res H.264 would cause you problems.
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Unless you have a good reason not to, go with the Season 1 DVD set. It's worth it.
It's really not, after you perfect the technique or use a suitable script. I wrote a short (3 line) script that rips an entire DVD to a XviD file, where you specify the desired bitrate/filesize, and the audio track. It takes literally ten seconds to rip a dvd (not counting the actual encoding time, but you can do something else during that), and you end up getting a nicely compressed product.
So what you're saying is that for you the price point matches the convenience factor of being able to what... watch it on your laptop without putting the DVD in? Or are you actually going to get a video IPod and watch it on the 2 inch screen?
See to me that's the kicker. I don't actually need the compressed format, in fact, I'd prefer the better format... but if I buy the better one, I can always just compress it later should that need arise, however the opposite isn't true.
I guess to me, the only thing I see is a noticeable increase in convenience of delivery and a noticeable decrease in quality, but those aren't equal commodities in my world, especially considering that the current delivery methods are pretty convenient in my area.
Add in Tivo-like capability to FrontRow, throw it on a mac mini, hook that up to a plasma screen, and you've got a kick ass media center going. Just add in 5.1 or higher audio out, and I'm buying one.
It seems that someone has to say that the video iPod will be the down fall of Apple/Steve Jobs. However Phillip Swann, http://www.tvpredictions.com/ipod101105.html, logic: The video iPod was born from arrogance. Apple has been so successful with the audio iPod that it thinks it can't go wrong. But it will this time. This is an example of a technology that is being launched only because it can be, not because anybody wants it.
This sort of sounds like the old story of IBM saying since there is no one using Coping machine in the business place there is no need for one. And telling a small company, Xerox, that they where not intrested in their new product.
Just because no one else it doing it does not mean it should not be done...
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To get full-screen, you can click an icon below the running video in iTunes. It pops up to full-screen regardless of whether you have QT Pro.
Michael C. Hollinger
a show which has already paid for itself via distribution in other markets!
I apologize for posting a possibly very naive thought here. Since the BBC is funded through the annual TV tax paid by British citizens, isn't it actually true that Dr Who was already financed by that tax and the advertising revenue from it being shown in England? Internet-distributed sales of the show, like you say, is pure icing on the cake for the production company.
Seth
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Not true. Apple's iTunes supports many MP3 players other than the iPod.
Another example of Apple supporting non Apple devices is iSync, which supports a multitude of phones that aren't Apple devices.
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
You can only have one active BlueTooth connection (people with BlueTooth keyboards or other utilities would have to disconnect everytime you wanted to just use the remote). It takes time to start/disconnect BlueTooth connections and you wouldn't really want to leave it connected all the time as it would suck the batteries dry (as you pointed out - infrared uses much less power). That and if you had multiple iMacs in your household they're be the whole thing of making sure the remote had connected to the iMac that you were currently sitting in front of.
Infrared is the correct solution for a remote control. Just point it at the Mac you want to control. Infrared also gives you the option of ditching Apple's control and using your standard Universal remote to control the iMac (and the zillion other things in your house that are already controlled via infrared )...
All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
I think that the killer app for the new iTunes/iPod is old TV shows. Have you ever wanted to watch an old TV show that isn't on DVD and isn't carried in reruns? There are plenty of shows that have followings, but aren't worth it for the networks to play. So, hire a team to go through your archives and digitize old TV shows and put them on iTunes. Instant revenue off of an already existing product. The hang-ups of course are paying to digitize them and figuring out how to pay all of the residuals to the actors.
I don't think the cost would be overly excessive, considering that it is a one-time cost. And I'm guessing they have ways of figuring out residuals from their experience putting old shows on DVD.
Just my 2 cents, but I would be willing to pay $2 for an episode or two of some old shows to watch. Plus, I could take them on the plane with my new video capable iPod.
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To sort of counter my own point there, here is a process by which you can convert your DVD's to be used on The iPod.
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http://diveintomark.org/howto/ipod-dvd-ripping-gu
The program used has downloads for OSX, Source, Debian and BeOS
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no, it's fecking brilliant! cause this means that the televesion network is not losing money and wont lose the DVD buyers. one of the biggest concerns for the big companies is loosing/cannibalizing on their DVD sales... and when you see the 1.99 price tag you certainly think "oh that's nothing!" so the consumer is happy cause it looks cheap for just the odd episode and the company is happy cause it still sells DVDs, as the DVDs offer more for just a few dollars more... the only problem i would see to this is that there are shows out there with very few episodes. like Extras and six feet under which don't have the 20+ episodes of a normal tv series and therefore wont make as much money... not to mention that HBO sells their series DVD box sets for an arm and a leg. so probably this gig aint for them... specially if Apple wants to keep their one price tag model. but for normal series it looks good, even if at the end jelousy and pride will make the companies turn it down anyway no matter how good it becomes.
i think this is a brilliant attempt! and very much hope that it expands into a new avenue of media distribution.
How can we play the avi files from digital cameras or camcorders - personal home movies etc.? Will this device allow these non-DRM files? Will converting .avi to .mov work? What is the video equivalent of the mp3 format?
What? You Call THAT a Video iPod?
Why it's missing HDTV, an HDMI connector, and Tivo/Cable/Dish Network recording functionality.
Where is the AM/FM/XM/SW/HDTV/Subspace integrated tuner/receivers?
It's got no microphone/universal remote/20megapixel camera/medical tricorder!?!
Where's the innovation?
Where's my 1080p 2.5" display?
Maybe Apple can team up with RadioShack and add a little functionality to this 'iPod' thing. RadioShack has always had success with electronics, just look at the Tandy TSR line of products.
Video iPod, Bah!
Just a fad, no one will buy into this gizmo.
It's only tomorrow, but:
Instructions for ripping a DVD to an iPod-compatible quicktime movie.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
I actually meant burning the stuff you buy on iTMS to a DVD - but that's useful, too. :)
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Hmm.. Offer new series for $1.99, maybe sell a couple of thousand copies before it's saturated on bittorrent and nobody wants it any more.
Or get US network to by it for $1 million.
I know which I'd go for. If you want to complain complain to the US TV companies that are two shortsighted to buy a programme that's actually good.
Is going to hack this baby to play XVID/DIVX/MPEG-1/2? Then this would be a MUST buy! For now I'm going with Nano.
I don't think this point can be emphasised enough. It takes HOURS to rip DVD to H.264 - HOURS. Its not like a CD where you can rip it before the first song is finished, it takes a fast computer, a signigificant fraction of a day at 100% CPU usage to get what Apple are providing for $2. Thats good value. My only critism is that for $2 an hour I'd expect HD quality not TV. I've got a 20" widescreen iMac that can play back 1024i movies in realtime and there is no content. None. I would gladly hand over $2 an epidsode for Lost / Firefly / House / Smallville (don't think too little of me) if I could watch them in fullscreen with low artifacts and pixalisation $2 and bandwidth is worth it.
The next thing that needs to happen... Sony PSP gets into bed with iTMS. Apple must understand that they're different markets. People don't compare iPods and PSPs. They buy iPods if they want to listen to music in the gym/car they buy a PSP if they want to play games on the train / playground. There is function overlap, but not enough that they could be concidered the same thing - they are not. What isn't fair is that if someone with a PSP can't use it to play video they bought for their PC/Mac/iPod. Its not good for consumers (its also why I don't understand why anyone would ever buy a UMD).
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C'mon now -- just when they are cracking down on cell phone users in cars!! I doubt if they'd ever release a video iPod for cars. Peace!
Of course, they turned it into absolute crap and quickly cancelled it. But they were halfway there.
I can't comment on how they're doing with "The Office"; I haven't watched any of it and I don't plan to. I don't think they deserve another chance to prove to me they're not completely incompetent.
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don't feel too bad about smallville. Kristin Kreuk is like crack to me. they need to come-up with a TV show where all she does is just stare at the camera for one hour. that'd also make me happy.
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