in teh long run, the Total cost of ownership is way less than that "$30K" car.
No it doesn't
Lets take my gas guzzling Crown Victoria Police Interceptor as an example, now I bought it used but I believe they cost around $32,000 new, lets call that $35,000 to be safe and we will assume the life of a car is 100,000 miles
I get about 15 MPG because of hilly terrain, little highway driving and a lead foot. gas is about 3.70 here and has stayed about there for 4 years now but we'll call it 4.25 to offset any unexpected future price increases.
Add in 20 engine oil changes at $40 each for the good stuff
5 air filters at $15 each
3 fuel filters at $10 each
3 sets of 8 brake pads at $80 each because I'm guessing the Tesla's regenerative braking extends the lives of discs and pads so I'll just add all my brake jobs in.
1 set of 4 brake rotors at $350
6 years of Pennsylvania state emissions inspections means that I will be paying $30 more for having to do the actual inspection instead of just getting the exemption sticker.
I get $65,008.33 for the total cost over the life of the car assuming gas hits $5 a gallon in the next few years and you do maintenance more than most people.
Now I like the Tesla but considering the average midsize now gets twice the mileage of my car it is not cheaper in the long run. I will however consider Tesla in the future when they can start bringing their prices down. Until then I'll probably be looking at a Charger R/T or Taurus SHO in 6 years or so when I decide to get a new car.
This is the biggest thing that kills the Leaf for me, it looks like an emasculated Prius. Its hard to get anyone excited about that especially the gear heads who are the ones who typically generate the buzz around new cars. Car Manufacturers need to take a look at the Chevy Volt for ideas on how to style their green machines, if you want to compete in the American market you have to sacrifice some function for form.
Danica also has tons of racing experience therefore tons of experience wrecking cars. Most likely she did the death grip on the wheel the first few times she crashed and after realizing your hands hurt for days afterwards learned to let go. You can tell people that is the proper way to do it all you want but when the SHTF they will probably just hold onto the wheel for dear life. Most people will only be in a few accidents spread far apart during their lives, not frequent enough to make letting go of the wheel a habit.
The bus drivers do not but the Maryland Transit Authority has its own police department and most of those cops ride around on buses and trains all day to curb the massive problem Baltimore has with violence on public transit. You most likely had your ticket written by one of them.
Actually on Verizon switching phones is as easy as calling an activation number and waiting about 2 minutes for your old phone to be disconnected and your new one to be set up. The last time I had a GSM phone about 5 years ago service was widely unavailable in many rural parts of the Mid-Atlantic region and its still impossible to get GSM signal in underground areas (parking garages, basements, certain bars, etc.)
I recently had to teach a friend how to parallel park for the drivers test in Pennsylvania. It may have been dropped a few year ago but it has been a requirement again since at least 2005.
I have never had anything but problems with AMD products. IMO they make better space heaters than CPUs or GPUs, although I have never had to RMA 5 space heaters in 9 months. I ditched all of my AMD products last year and will never go back. I don't care who has the fastest graphics card in the world, I would still go with the Nvidia for reliability.
Except PFC Manning is allowed visits with family and friends and no one has said that he is staring at a wall for 23 hours a day. The disgustingly biased article in Salon went as far as to claim that he was denied access to newspapers and current events which has been disputed by one of their sources.
I'm not trying to say PFC Mannings imprisonment is all sunshine and rainbows, but to suggest that it is months on end of sensory deprivation and social isolation would be false.
I would just like to thank you for your liberal usage of words such as 'torture' and 'under duress.' You see, every time somebody describes solitary confinement as torture it weakens a word which at one time used to bring up images of POW camps and medieval torture devices. Now thanks to the efforts of people like yourself, when the average person hears somebody is being tortured they can't be sure if an interrogator is driving splinters under their finger nails or if they have been denied access to cable TV. With your continuing support we hope to one day bring water boarding to the civilian population as an acceptable means of interrogation.
they're unlikely to put themselves in a situation where you have the upper-hand
Exactly, if I meet an armed thug with a weapon of my own they are most likely to back down and run away because they no longer have the upper-hand. The average criminal isn't willing to die for the money in my wallet or my TV.
they are presumably being proactive in their pursuit of crime, whereas you are presumably being a "law abiding citizen" and thus unaware of impending criminal activity.
The planning time for most crimes can be measured in seconds, usually right before the crime is committed. Criminals take advantage of opportunities, an unlocked car door, a lone person walking down a dark alley or an open window. Professionals planing crimes against individuals is exceedingly rare because there is very little to gain compared to other things such as bank and armored car robberies.
Also, let's look at our southern neighbors: Guns are very highly illegal in Mexico, yet gun violence there is much, much worse than it is in the US.
Owning an automatic weapon is illegal in most if not all African countries, in some (Kenya for example) it is a capital crime. This hasn't stopped Africa from becoming one of the most dangerous places in the world.
You are implying that just owning a gun (or guillotine) automatically turns you into a crazed murderer, this is not the case in fact every year of all the people in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania with a License to Carry Firearms only 0.1% of them commit any felony or misdemeanor. You would be hard pressed to find crime rates lower than that and all of these people own guns and most carry them frequently.
Instead of blaming an inanimate objects for crimes and passing draconian laws that only serve to keep law abiding citizens defenseless from criminals and tyranny we could try and do a better job of keeping career criminals and violent mental patients separated from the rest of society or at least under tabs. Unfortunately it is much easier to pass laws banning scary looking guns knowing that law abiding citizens will surrender them and criminals who bought them from a smuggler will just ignore that law like so many others, this way you can say you took thousands of guns off 'the street' and line a bunch of scary black assault rifles on a table for the media. It looks like you've made the world a safer place for everyone when in reality its now only safer for criminals.
Because we all know if 80% of voters don't show up we just boot the politicians out in January and nobody fills that seat until the next election. I mean that is how it works right?
I'm going on a trip to Houston, Texas next year and looked into a few ways to get there. Flying would be $260 and 5 hours, Amtrak would be $440 and 39 hours and Greyhound would be $200 and 42 hours. If I went Greyhound (or Amtrak) I would have to try and sleep on the bus/train and have an entire carry on bag filled with books to keep me occupied for the trip, but I found something very disturbing in the first paragraph Greyhound's Traveling by Bus page that has made me decide to never use Greyhound.
No reservations are necessary when you travel with Greyhound. If you know the departure schedule, simply arrive at the terminal at least an hour before departure to purchase your ticket. Boarding generally begins 15 to 30 minutes before departure. Seating is on a first-come, first- served basis. Advance purchase tickets do not guarantee a seat.
Now it would completely ruin my trip if I park at the bus station find out my bus is full and I have to wait until tomorrow to catch the next bus. I would drive back to my house, call the hotel and hope I don't have to pay for the first nights stay (which I won't be there for) and go to sleep in my own bed.
But what if that happened at one of my connections?
Maybe I'll get the whole way to Atlanta to find that my next bus is full and I have to either spend the night in the terminal or walk the streets of Atlanta at midnight with my luggage to find a hotel to stay at and hope tomorrows bus will have a seat for me.
I don't insure my car. Do you think you have a right to FORCE me to insure it? You don't. Neither do you have a right to force me to insure my house.
If you choose to not insure your car against damages thats your choice. However I should have the right to force you to have liability insurance if you wish to have the PRIVILEGE of using a motor vehicle on government controlled roads. This way when you rear end me because you were too busy texting to notice the light turned red, I don't have to worry about being stuck with a heavily damaged vehicle and a huge repair bill. This now becomes your insurance companies problem which gets passed along to you in the form of higher insurance rates.
The article doesn't say what kids of screens would be used but I'm assuming some kind of LCD. So now every time my car gets a little tap in a parking lot I have to replace it. These also seem like a prime target for jackasses to vandalize, just a little kick and you have to get a new one. I don't think they would like power washers very much either. Whats wrong with stamped and plated metal do you really need more information than a registration number? It would be a better idea to put ads on the signs they use to warn people of accidents and traffic jams when they aren't in use.
Gun Control: The idea that a woman found raped and strangled with her own panties in a dark alleyway is somehow morally superior than a woman explaining to a police officer how her attacker got that fatal gunshot wound.
Actual T-Shirt seen at gun range.
Does anyone else think that of all of the advocacy and special interest groups feminists are the most hypocritical and can never agree on anything as a whole?
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in teh long run, the Total cost of ownership is way less than that "$30K" car.
No it doesn't
Lets take my gas guzzling Crown Victoria Police Interceptor as an example, now I bought it used but I believe they cost around $32,000 new, lets call that $35,000 to be safe and we will assume the life of a car is 100,000 miles
I get about 15 MPG because of hilly terrain, little highway driving and a lead foot. gas is about 3.70 here and has stayed about there for 4 years now but we'll call it 4.25 to offset any unexpected future price increases.
Add in 20 engine oil changes at $40 each for the good stuff
5 air filters at $15 each
3 fuel filters at $10 each
3 sets of 8 brake pads at $80 each because I'm guessing the Tesla's regenerative braking extends the lives of discs and pads so I'll just add all my brake jobs in.
1 set of 4 brake rotors at $350
6 years of Pennsylvania state emissions inspections means that I will be paying $30 more for having to do the actual inspection instead of just getting the exemption sticker.
I get $65,008.33 for the total cost over the life of the car assuming gas hits $5 a gallon in the next few years and you do maintenance more than most people.
Now I like the Tesla but considering the average midsize now gets twice the mileage of my car it is not cheaper in the long run. I will however consider Tesla in the future when they can start bringing their prices down. Until then I'll probably be looking at a Charger R/T or Taurus SHO in 6 years or so when I decide to get a new car.
This is the biggest thing that kills the Leaf for me, it looks like an emasculated Prius. Its hard to get anyone excited about that especially the gear heads who are the ones who typically generate the buzz around new cars. Car Manufacturers need to take a look at the Chevy Volt for ideas on how to style their green machines, if you want to compete in the American market you have to sacrifice some function for form.
Any Orioles fan will immediately point you to the 'Jeffrey Maier Incident' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Maier
Danica also has tons of racing experience therefore tons of experience wrecking cars. Most likely she did the death grip on the wheel the first few times she crashed and after realizing your hands hurt for days afterwards learned to let go. You can tell people that is the proper way to do it all you want but when the SHTF they will probably just hold onto the wheel for dear life. Most people will only be in a few accidents spread far apart during their lives, not frequent enough to make letting go of the wheel a habit.
The bus drivers do not but the Maryland Transit Authority has its own police department and most of those cops ride around on buses and trains all day to curb the massive problem Baltimore has with violence on public transit. You most likely had your ticket written by one of them.
Actually on Verizon switching phones is as easy as calling an activation number and waiting about 2 minutes for your old phone to be disconnected and your new one to be set up. The last time I had a GSM phone about 5 years ago service was widely unavailable in many rural parts of the Mid-Atlantic region and its still impossible to get GSM signal in underground areas (parking garages, basements, certain bars, etc.)
1.255 seconds on average.
I recently had to teach a friend how to parallel park for the drivers test in Pennsylvania. It may have been dropped a few year ago but it has been a requirement again since at least 2005.
He forgot Final Fantasy XI which since 2002 has been supporting Playstation 2 and PC and since 2006, XBox 360 players on the same servers.
I have never had anything but problems with AMD products. IMO they make better space heaters than CPUs or GPUs, although I have never had to RMA 5 space heaters in 9 months. I ditched all of my AMD products last year and will never go back. I don't care who has the fastest graphics card in the world, I would still go with the Nvidia for reliability.
Since I haven't used Windows in years I actually don't know all that much about that POS and tell people so.
Yet in your sig you claim that Windows is failing to do today what Unix did years ago. So how do you actually know anything about Windows today?
2 years ago when I was working at a convenience store we were still using them to order cigarettes.
Except PFC Manning is allowed visits with family and friends and no one has said that he is staring at a wall for 23 hours a day. The disgustingly biased article in Salon went as far as to claim that he was denied access to newspapers and current events which has been disputed by one of their sources.
I'm not trying to say PFC Mannings imprisonment is all sunshine and rainbows, but to suggest that it is months on end of sensory deprivation and social isolation would be false.
Hello good sir, I work for the Government.
I would just like to thank you for your liberal usage of words such as 'torture' and 'under duress.' You see, every time somebody describes solitary confinement as torture it weakens a word which at one time used to bring up images of POW camps and medieval torture devices. Now thanks to the efforts of people like yourself, when the average person hears somebody is being tortured they can't be sure if an interrogator is driving splinters under their finger nails or if they have been denied access to cable TV. With your continuing support we hope to one day bring water boarding to the civilian population as an acceptable means of interrogation.
Sincerely,
The Man
they're unlikely to put themselves in a situation where you have the upper-hand
Exactly, if I meet an armed thug with a weapon of my own they are most likely to back down and run away because they no longer have the upper-hand. The average criminal isn't willing to die for the money in my wallet or my TV.
they are presumably being proactive in their pursuit of crime, whereas you are presumably being a "law abiding citizen" and thus unaware of impending criminal activity.
The planning time for most crimes can be measured in seconds, usually right before the crime is committed. Criminals take advantage of opportunities, an unlocked car door, a lone person walking down a dark alley or an open window. Professionals planing crimes against individuals is exceedingly rare because there is very little to gain compared to other things such as bank and armored car robberies.
Also, let's look at our southern neighbors: Guns are very highly illegal in Mexico, yet gun violence there is much, much worse than it is in the US.
Owning an automatic weapon is illegal in most if not all African countries, in some (Kenya for example) it is a capital crime. This hasn't stopped Africa from becoming one of the most dangerous places in the world.
You are implying that just owning a gun (or guillotine) automatically turns you into a crazed murderer, this is not the case in fact every year of all the people in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania with a License to Carry Firearms only 0.1% of them commit any felony or misdemeanor. You would be hard pressed to find crime rates lower than that and all of these people own guns and most carry them frequently.
Instead of blaming an inanimate objects for crimes and passing draconian laws that only serve to keep law abiding citizens defenseless from criminals and tyranny we could try and do a better job of keeping career criminals and violent mental patients separated from the rest of society or at least under tabs. Unfortunately it is much easier to pass laws banning scary looking guns knowing that law abiding citizens will surrender them and criminals who bought them from a smuggler will just ignore that law like so many others, this way you can say you took thousands of guns off 'the street' and line a bunch of scary black assault rifles on a table for the media. It looks like you've made the world a safer place for everyone when in reality its now only safer for criminals.
Dell is also notorious for ridiculous mark ups in anything beyond their cheap, low performance, bottom of the line models.
You're comparing Apples to apples.
Who would have thought a homeless man could do perform Creep better than Radiohead?
Prepare to be blown away
He has an album out now.
Because we all know if 80% of voters don't show up we just boot the politicians out in January and nobody fills that seat until the next election. I mean that is how it works right?
For now, I am going Greyhound...
I'm going on a trip to Houston, Texas next year and looked into a few ways to get there. Flying would be $260 and 5 hours, Amtrak would be $440 and 39 hours and Greyhound would be $200 and 42 hours. If I went Greyhound (or Amtrak) I would have to try and sleep on the bus/train and have an entire carry on bag filled with books to keep me occupied for the trip, but I found something very disturbing in the first paragraph Greyhound's Traveling by Bus page that has made me decide to never use Greyhound.
No reservations are necessary when you travel with Greyhound. If you know the departure schedule, simply arrive at the terminal at least an hour before departure to purchase your ticket. Boarding generally begins 15 to 30 minutes before departure. Seating is on a first-come, first- served basis. Advance purchase tickets do not guarantee a seat.
Now it would completely ruin my trip if I park at the bus station find out my bus is full and I have to wait until tomorrow to catch the next bus. I would drive back to my house, call the hotel and hope I don't have to pay for the first nights stay (which I won't be there for) and go to sleep in my own bed.
But what if that happened at one of my connections?
Maybe I'll get the whole way to Atlanta to find that my next bus is full and I have to either spend the night in the terminal or walk the streets of Atlanta at midnight with my luggage to find a hotel to stay at and hope tomorrows bus will have a seat for me.
For now, I'm still flying...
I don't insure my car. Do you think you have a right to FORCE me to insure it? You don't. Neither do you have a right to force me to insure my house.
If you choose to not insure your car against damages thats your choice. However I should have the right to force you to have liability insurance if you wish to have the PRIVILEGE of using a motor vehicle on government controlled roads. This way when you rear end me because you were too busy texting to notice the light turned red, I don't have to worry about being stuck with a heavily damaged vehicle and a huge repair bill. This now becomes your insurance companies problem which gets passed along to you in the form of higher insurance rates.
Well it worked for Coca-Cola
The article doesn't say what kids of screens would be used but I'm assuming some kind of LCD. So now every time my car gets a little tap in a parking lot I have to replace it. These also seem like a prime target for jackasses to vandalize, just a little kick and you have to get a new one. I don't think they would like power washers very much either. Whats wrong with stamped and plated metal do you really need more information than a registration number? It would be a better idea to put ads on the signs they use to warn people of accidents and traffic jams when they aren't in use.
Gun Control: The idea that a woman found raped and strangled with her own panties in a dark alleyway is somehow morally superior than a woman explaining to a police officer how her attacker got that fatal gunshot wound.
Actual T-Shirt seen at gun range.
Does anyone else think that of all of the advocacy and special interest groups feminists are the most hypocritical and can never agree on anything as a whole?