Well, my point was to address the comment that the idea that integrity should be valued is allegedly somehow "western" notion.
I didn't mention Christianity because there may be some disagreement about it being "western", arguably having evolved into the state it is recognized today mostly in Western Europe, although certainly its foundations are at least as old as Islam.
Actually, it *is* getting me somewhere... People trust me, and are confident that their trust has not been misplaced. The fact that having personal integrity may not be held in high esteem by some does not diminish the trust I have rightfully earned.
Really? Seems to me that the notion of living with integirity is at least as old as religions like Judaism or Islam, neither of which were founded in the western hemisphere.
Ah...the "everybody does it" excuse, otherwise known as the Golden Rationalization. As for suggesting that one is somehow foolish to try and live with integrity when others are cheating.... Well thats just a variant on an ad hominem, called Poisoning the Well.
People growing up under oppressive governments have much fewer problems with cheating â" because cheating government is a fair game.
Yeah... because two wrongs make a right.
The rules of life are not "whoever dies with the most toys wins", but it seems to me that people who think cheating is a good idea often seem to live their lives as though that were the case.
Striving to live one's life with integrity may not be easy, but then nothing that is really worth doing ever is.
I'm betting that the "severance" pay isn't really severance at all.... rather, it comes with conditions that the recipient won't sue.
Not that it matters... being discriminated against based on such things is illegal, and even if they agreed to accept a "severance" to not sue, that does not in any way waive a person's civil rights. They could accept the "severance" and still turn around and sue, and not be required to pay any of the severance back.
Oh... and if they are laying off a bunch of employees only to immediately hire a bunch of new employees as replacements, particularly from a different demographic pool, I'd imagine that is pretty strong grounds for a discrimination lawsuit. While in most of the cases where I've heard of it happening, the lawsuit would generally be for age-related discrimination, it could just as easily be a discrimination based on race or nationality.
Since this requires an external sleeve to be mounted on the battery... I expect this will more than likely cause the battery to not fit properly in many types of devices' housing. Some people may try and force the battery to fit, and might end up breaking their devices, often without even necessarily using very much force (since the only force batteries generally require to insert in most consumer devices is against the spring tension of any battery contacts).
Power generation which starts from the opposite side of where it s being delivered is less energy efficient. It only seems to matter so much for the human form because human muscles are weak compared to what machines can do, and with our bodies, we just work with what we have.
This is exactly what they mean by "comply with the law". The law is on their side. However, if you tell them that you do not wish them to call you, they are required to stop. The downside is that if you just tell them on the phone, or send them a letter, then "we received no communication indicating he wanted us to stop calling."
Get some telephone recording equipment, is isn't *that* expensive, and can come in handy for all kinds of things. Turn it on while speaking with them, tell them that the call is being recorded. If they don't want to be recorded, then they will either voice an objection or else hang up. If they hang up, then the problem is solved... if they only voice an objection, you have no obligation to respect that... they have already been advised that you are recording the call, and the onus is upon them to terminate the call if they do not wish to continue to be recorded. If they tolerate being recorded, then you can get proof that you have informed them that you do not want them to call you.;
It is worth noting, I think, that absolutely *everyone* has something to hide... Even if only from people who might abuse such knowledge.
And that even *if* the government were compltely trustworthy (and I do not allege that they are, but hypothetically,even if they were), if they can see your confidential information, then it is theoretically also possible for someone with less noble intentions to do so as well, and if they exploit it before they are caught, the damage can sometimes be utterly irreparable.
a little while after meeting you they kind of distance themselves, they get a weird kinda awe-inspired respect for you
If the tone of your post is any indication of what you are like in person, I believe that you may be entirely wrong, almost to the point of being polar opposite to reality, about their intentions about why they distance themselves... .
total lifespan is still limited by other factorsLike what, exactly? If you can cure aging, then by extension, diseases that are induced by aging should also be eradicated. That just leaves dying by diseases where survivability is *not* significantly connected to how old someone is, death by accident, or else homicide.
In other words, some 70% of the reasons that people die will be eliminated. It is effectively immortality.
Many of the diseases that predominantly affect the older generations often arise not simply because of the passage of time, but as a consequence of the aging process itself... That is not to say that aging is necessarily the sole cause, but it is extremely obvious that declining health as one ages plays a very large factor. If certain medical treatments existed to genuinely halt or even reverse the effects of aging, then one's overall health would be expected to remain at otherwise "youthful" levels (in fact, if it did not, then the treatment doesn't actually do anything), and people would not tend to die from illnesses that are typically associated with declining healthy levels as one ages any more than people who have otherwise lived only to a relatively young age already do.
Some morbidly obese people would no longer necessarily continue to be morbidly obese... since some weight gain can be caused simply by a slowing metabolism associated with aging. If the aging process can be reversed, then some fat people may eventually be able to become skinny again, without even necessarily any significant change in their diet or lifestyle, since no such change is necessarily required to become fat in the first place.
The logistics of trying to hava a mandatory vasagel procedure on every single male that reaches puberty is so outside of the realm of what is practicable that you should not need to consider it for more than a moment to realize that it would not be effective.
Oh, and of course there isn't any chance at all that such rules won't get broken.... and over time, get broken with increasing regularity until such point in time that nobody even really pays attention to the rule.
I would think also that there would be no small number of kids born simply because... well... accidents happen, and the parents do not want to simply terminate a pregnancy on the grounds that having it amounts to what is just a large inconvenience for them.
I would suspect that there is a very sizable percentage of the world's population that would not exist if people only ever had children when they intended to.,
I see that as less of an issue over measures that may be morally reprehensible than a matter of measures that are not seriously likely to ever prove to be actually effective.
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Well, my point was to address the comment that the idea that integrity should be valued is allegedly somehow "western" notion.
I didn't mention Christianity because there may be some disagreement about it being "western", arguably having evolved into the state it is recognized today mostly in Western Europe, although certainly its foundations are at least as old as Islam.
Actually, it *is* getting me somewhere... People trust me, and are confident that their trust has not been misplaced. The fact that having personal integrity may not be held in high esteem by some does not diminish the trust I have rightfully earned.
Really? Seems to me that the notion of living with integirity is at least as old as religions like Judaism or Islam, neither of which were founded in the western hemisphere.
Ah...the "everybody does it" excuse, otherwise known as the Golden Rationalization. As for suggesting that one is somehow foolish to try and live with integrity when others are cheating.... Well thats just a variant on an ad hominem, called Poisoning the Well.
Yeah... because two wrongs make a right.
The rules of life are not "whoever dies with the most toys wins", but it seems to me that people who think cheating is a good idea often seem to live their lives as though that were the case.
Striving to live one's life with integrity may not be easy, but then nothing that is really worth doing ever is.
s/based on such things/... based on certain types of things.../
Sometimes I really hate that slashdot doesn't have a window of a minute or two to edit a post...
I even hit preview first... but I somehow didn't see that I had typed that until after submitting.
I'm betting that the "severance" pay isn't really severance at all.... rather, it comes with conditions that the recipient won't sue.
Not that it matters... being discriminated against based on such things is illegal, and even if they agreed to accept a "severance" to not sue, that does not in any way waive a person's civil rights. They could accept the "severance" and still turn around and sue, and not be required to pay any of the severance back.
Oh... and if they are laying off a bunch of employees only to immediately hire a bunch of new employees as replacements, particularly from a different demographic pool, I'd imagine that is pretty strong grounds for a discrimination lawsuit. While in most of the cases where I've heard of it happening, the lawsuit would generally be for age-related discrimination, it could just as easily be a discrimination based on race or nationality.
Since this requires an external sleeve to be mounted on the battery... I expect this will more than likely cause the battery to not fit properly in many types of devices' housing. Some people may try and force the battery to fit, and might end up breaking their devices, often without even necessarily using very much force (since the only force batteries generally require to insert in most consumer devices is against the spring tension of any battery contacts).
Power generation which starts from the opposite side of where it s being delivered is less energy efficient. It only seems to matter so much for the human form because human muscles are weak compared to what machines can do, and with our bodies, we just work with what we have.
Get some telephone recording equipment, is isn't *that* expensive, and can come in handy for all kinds of things. Turn it on while speaking with them, tell them that the call is being recorded. If they don't want to be recorded, then they will either voice an objection or else hang up. If they hang up, then the problem is solved... if they only voice an objection, you have no obligation to respect that... they have already been advised that you are recording the call, and the onus is upon them to terminate the call if they do not wish to continue to be recorded. If they tolerate being recorded, then you can get proof that you have informed them that you do not want them to call you.;
Indeed.... either that, or it will be priced so stratospheric that it doesn't have any chance of catching on in the home computer sector.
It will be news when it's available and affordable.
Until then, it's not really any better than vaporware.
Used to it, perhaps, but that does not necessarily mean content or satisfied with it.
I'm no physicist, but I'm pretty darn sure a spaceship's gotta move a whole lot further tan 40 cm to get anywhere.
It is worth noting, I think, that absolutely *everyone* has something to hide... Even if only from people who might abuse such knowledge.
And that even *if* the government were compltely trustworthy (and I do not allege that they are, but hypothetically,even if they were), if they can see your confidential information, then it is theoretically also possible for someone with less noble intentions to do so as well, and if they exploit it before they are caught, the damage can sometimes be utterly irreparable.
I know... It'll be done when it's done, but I needed to vent a little.
Studying crime in VR.... wasn't that something they were doing in the exposition of that film?
If the tone of your post is any indication of what you are like in person, I believe that you may be entirely wrong, almost to the point of being polar opposite to reality, about their intentions about why they distance themselves... .
Many of the diseases that predominantly affect the older generations often arise not simply because of the passage of time, but as a consequence of the aging process itself... That is not to say that aging is necessarily the sole cause, but it is extremely obvious that declining health as one ages plays a very large factor. If certain medical treatments existed to genuinely halt or even reverse the effects of aging, then one's overall health would be expected to remain at otherwise "youthful" levels (in fact, if it did not, then the treatment doesn't actually do anything), and people would not tend to die from illnesses that are typically associated with declining healthy levels as one ages any more than people who have otherwise lived only to a relatively young age already do.
You don't seriously think the that rich and the elite wouldn't bend the rules for their own families do you?
Or do you really think that unwanted pregnancies only ever happen to the less wealthy?
Some morbidly obese people would no longer necessarily continue to be morbidly obese... since some weight gain can be caused simply by a slowing metabolism associated with aging. If the aging process can be reversed, then some fat people may eventually be able to become skinny again, without even necessarily any significant change in their diet or lifestyle, since no such change is necessarily required to become fat in the first place.
The logistics of trying to hava a mandatory vasagel procedure on every single male that reaches puberty is so outside of the realm of what is practicable that you should not need to consider it for more than a moment to realize that it would not be effective.
Oh, and of course there isn't any chance at all that such rules won't get broken.... and over time, get broken with increasing regularity until such point in time that nobody even really pays attention to the rule.
I would think also that there would be no small number of kids born simply because... well... accidents happen, and the parents do not want to simply terminate a pregnancy on the grounds that having it amounts to what is just a large inconvenience for them.
I would suspect that there is a very sizable percentage of the world's population that would not exist if people only ever had children when they intended to.,
I see that as less of an issue over measures that may be morally reprehensible than a matter of measures that are not seriously likely to ever prove to be actually effective.