Problem with this that these companies were emboldened by the fact that the chains may come off in the future.
Now that it seems that the gov't may allow MS to continue it previous ways, like any totalitarian regime, those that demonstrated against it in a moment of weakness will be the first ones put up against the wall when the regime becomes completely in power again.
> So much, also, for high security installations (where any connectivity, whatsoever, with the outside world is verboten)...
This is the only way I'd use something like Whistler (named after the sound of crackers blowing through a 1000 security holes). I mean, do you *really* wanna put it out where the the things that go bump in the night live?
Chris
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Now, I don't use the old XT keyboard or vi enough to warrant finding one, I have to agree with the idea of using the old keyboards. I have a brand spankin' new workstation at work with a keyboard off of a 8 year old Northgate (remember those?). The Omnikey. Weighs about 5 pounds and can take a direct hit from a 20mm shell...
Clicks like hell and has the tactile feedback that I really like, plus with all the noise, it drives my co-workers nuts!
I hate new keyboards. Feel like I'm typing on overcooked pasta. Feh.
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White phosphorous in the knees! Jeeze, you are/vicious/. I would hate to work where you do...
O: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I adn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!
C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
O: No no! 'E's pining!
C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
Story goes thusly: Be wanted to be ligit about support for the G3 and asked for the hardware specs on the motherboard. Apple, in its paranoia and arrogance said no. The LinuxPPC folks backward-engineered their software which Be was loath to do for legal reasons.
You know it funny, but I agree heartily. I managed to win a consulting contract with a company by using a line I got from my first boss, "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a truck full of tapes..."
And for a laugh, take a look at the "talkbacks". A sampling of the replies that were negative toward the rise of Linux seemed to all come from people who were either MCSEs or working toward that certification. Translation: "I don't want to have to learn something new!" (you should say this aloud with a whiny voice)
Hey!
I'll have you know not all MCSE's are Redmond's bootlicking toadies. I have one (Criminey, I've been immersed in the gunk for so long and the bloody tests were such a joke that I would be a fool to pass up the chance...) and I find that it is a potent weapon against PHBs. Imagine, if you will, a minion of the Dark Lord himself suggesting products other than those from that Sludgepot in Washington.
Yes, people will without fail pick Micros~1 crud 7 or 8 times out of 10, but I at least get a word in edgewise. Make 'em think about the other side of the fence.
I managed to save a customer > $10k when they wanted to set up a network management system. I talked them out of NT and SMS and into Linux and VNC. Monitors their network just fine and they could spend the extra money on decent workstations. A couple of the employees were so grateful that they bought me dinner and drinks when all was said and done...
You took the words right out of my mouth. Criminey, 30 people in some little kaffeklatsch get together to discuss their paranoid little fanatasies and this makes Wired news. What's next, the Keokuk Ladies Guild discusses the possible lack of coffee due to a potential power outage? Sheesh.
Real geniuses, these. One of the attendees was scared because she was reading The Day After Roswell? No Soup for you! You a nutbar! Get out! A couple of Congressmen (probably lawyers) who have the technical ability of my cat. Some looney lawyer. This is a group of people we care about? Please.
If you dig a little in the ROA's site, you'll see a recommendation from none other than Strom Thurmond, Lover of Life and Liberty himself. This seems to be a collection of military hardcores. A group that would love to see the "King" kicked out of office. Nice impartial group to spilling this kind of FUD.
I would like to ramble on about the loonies in the House, but I stopped myself. This is just the same bunch that thinks flag burners are dangerous to the country and the 10 Commandments will save school kids from automatic weapons.
Nuff said. Nothing to see here, just give 'em a little room and they'll just tire themselves out.
Looks like Micros~1 knows that it is in serious trouble and would like to find a way out of the OS business by buying into cable. How much have they spent on this spree over the last four or five months? I reckon it must be something close to 4-5 billion dollars on a captive market for their latest abomination, wince, er, um WinCE.
I sent an email to (probably dark hole) somewhere in Yahoo expressing my displeasure at their behavior:
Dear Yahoo!,
I am unable to find another address to which I am able to complain about your plans to usurp you users Intellectual Property, so I am taking my chances and mailing you here.
I have removed my email address and changed my homepage away from yours in protest of your new TOS. I have been a big fan of Yahoo! pretty much since you started, having not only used you myself, but adding your page to all the systems I install (as opposed the the usual Microsoft or Netscape homepage). I felt that you had one of the best start pages in the business and have made it known to my coworkers and clients that this is the page of choice.
I will do this no longer.
Your recent Intellectual Property landgrab is completely uncalled for. Not only is it (probably) legally unfounded, but it is an insult to the userbase that you have either built up or acquired. Being forced to agree with your TOS *before* I could even get in to check and delete my mail is patently unfair. I did not agree and will not agree.
Perhaps you may be thinking that you will be trying to cover yourself legally, but there are *far* better ways than claiming rights to others' property. Perhaps you think that there are plenty of other free email and web hosting sites. You are correct. And I will find one. One that doesn't feel the need to steal my work.
I am truly disappointed in Yahoo!. It seems that one of my old friends has just shown himself to be a not only a bad neighbor, but a greedy, one as well.
I may possibly reconsider rejoining you should you remove the draconian TOS you have imposed, but I would need plenty of evidence of your contrition and large apology to the community that has made you the success that you are today.
I enjoy using Linux. I'm not really good at using it, but I improve with every passing day. I have a network management box with RH 5.2 doing things I couldn't do otherwise (or at least within any sort of reasonable budget) on an otherwise completely MS network. I get work done and I have been slowly, but surely, getting some of the more tedious tasks switched over to my little Linux box because it works. I didn't tell anyone about it, since I'm afraid that the people in charge wouldn't like having it around (don't know, don't trust). But little things, data conversions, syslogd for the routers, little (badly written) perl scripts, etc. have won them over to the point that I have been asked to do other things with it. Hell, with a little luck, I may even get a budget to get a new machine!
But until then, my little 90 MHz Pentium, chugs along nicely, doing yeoman work without any notice at all. Just like a good network should.
All I'm saying is win 'em over with a bunch of small kindnesses, a quiet competence. Let 'em figure out for themselves that "Hey! I guess that thing really does work"
Metcalfe and his ilk are like the guards around the Wicked Witch's castle. Before Dorothy doused the devilish dame, they were all for killing our heroine, but afterwards, they were all for her. All the noise now is simply the beginning of Micros~1 screaming "I'm melting".
Patience, we'll be able to wear the Ruby Slippers in due time.
Chris (sorry about the Wizard of Oz ref. It's my fiancee's favorite movie and we watched it again this weekend and it's still in my head)
The Register has an article that adds an *very* interesting proposition: Micros~1 let this little one out of the bag in a desparate attempt to show competition exists.
See, AOL is gonna use small cheap computers to dethrone us!
Chimps. I say dip the demons of Redmond in Gravy Train and feed 'em all to a pack of crazed poodles...
Windows supporters still outnumber Linux supporters because Microsoft provides a better value proposition. Windows NT Server Enterprise Edition ships with a full complement of Internet services, including Web, proxy, index, messaging, database, transaction and firewall services.
What?!?
For US$3500 you can get ten users using web, index and transaction services. Firewall? Perhaps he means the limited packet filtering that comes standard on WinNT. Database? I don't remember them throwing in SQL Server. Proxy 2.0 is anonther US$2000. Basically, Enterprise edition with all the stuff he mentioned runs:
$3500 for NTE
$5000 for Firewall (50 user Checkpoint FW-1)
$2000 for proxy
$1000 for SQL Server.
$1500 for Exchange
$13,000 for an "integrated" WinNT Enterprise solution for 10 users...
Mayhaps he meant Windows Small Business Server. Still, I think the guy needs to see his dealer about the quality of his rock. It's giving him delusions...
Yes, I find that interesting that it is quietly allowing OEMs to add Linux to their lineup of OSs. I wonder how long that will last after the completion of the trial.
I can see Micros~1 getting mighty testy after all this is said and done.
I can believe that Micros~1 wants to believe this. They have this almost mystical ability to wish whatever they want into reality. Except that it looks like they went to the well one too many times and nobody is gonna buy it this time.
Between the overt attempt to fake a "groundswell" of support, the bungled videos in front of the DoJ and now the "benchmarks" that "prove" Linux is inferior to NT (as shown by an "independent" testing lab, no less), the Emperor's new clothes are revealing what Microsoft *really* means...
Considering the bull hockey moves of having PIII only websites (I guess since they move faster on the Internet than non-PIII sites), this seems like a sensible move on their part (and in their minds).
Let's hope they don't begin to get the content bug that has gotten into Micros~1's little mind.
I installed DOS, Linux and WinNT on my newly built AMD 400 box and then wasted four bloody days trying to wedge Win95 on that same machine. After many hours searching Technet and getting a patch from MS through AMD (seems that there is a timing loop problem for AMD 400+ MHz CPU's and Win95), I was able to get the thing working.
Try figuring that one out, little bed-wetting English-major type.
Sexier... BAH! I don't keep the cases on my computers long enough to worry about sexy. Besides, as far as I'm concerned, a good computer is a hidden computer. Keyboard, monitor, (maybe) mouse should be readily visible. Sexier... Creepy little things look like coolers. Blech
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You know, cool as it sounds, I don't imagine something like this being any good where I live (Minnesota). January gets to be -40 (F or C, doesn't matter) and I don't think there's a piece of hardware alive for under $1M that could survive that. I mean, really, HDs are touchy enough as it is, but between the cold and the vibration, I don't see it being practical.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it would survive a winter where I live...
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Heck, why buy H2? Just add water and heat and run the fool thing in reverse!
Problem with this that these companies were emboldened by the fact that the chains may come off in the future.
Now that it seems that the gov't may allow MS to continue it previous ways, like any totalitarian regime, those that demonstrated against it in a moment of weakness will be the first ones put up against the wall when the regime becomes completely in power again.
This is the only way I'd use something like Whistler (named after the sound of crackers blowing through a 1000 security holes). I mean, do you *really* wanna put it out where the the things that go bump in the night live? Chris
Clicks like hell and has the tactile feedback that I really like, plus with all the noise, it drives my co-workers nuts!
I hate new keyboards. Feel like I'm typing on overcooked pasta. Feh.
White phosphorous in the knees! Jeeze, you are /vicious/. I would hate to work where you do...
C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
O: No no! 'E's pining!
C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
Shamelessly stolen from Monty Python
Chris
Hey!
I'll have you know not all MCSE's are Redmond's bootlicking toadies. I have one (Criminey, I've been immersed in the gunk for so long and the bloody tests were such a joke that I would be a fool to pass up the chance...) and I find that it is a potent weapon against PHBs. Imagine, if you will, a minion of the Dark Lord himself suggesting products other than those from that Sludgepot in Washington.
Yes, people will without fail pick Micros~1 crud 7 or 8 times out of 10, but I at least get a word in edgewise. Make 'em think about the other side of the fence.
I managed to save a customer > $10k when they wanted to set up a network management system. I talked them out of NT and SMS and into Linux and VNC. Monitors their network just fine and they could spend the extra money on decent workstations. A couple of the employees were so grateful that they bought me dinner and drinks when all was said and done...
MMMMMmmmmmmm. Guiness.
Real geniuses, these. One of the attendees was scared because she was reading The Day After Roswell? No Soup for you! You a nutbar! Get out! A couple of Congressmen (probably lawyers) who have the technical ability of my cat. Some looney lawyer. This is a group of people we care about? Please.
If you dig a little in the ROA's site, you'll see a recommendation from none other than Strom Thurmond, Lover of Life and Liberty himself. This seems to be a collection of military hardcores. A group that would love to see the "King" kicked out of office. Nice impartial group to spilling this kind of FUD.
I would like to ramble on about the loonies in the House, but I stopped myself. This is just the same bunch that thinks flag burners are dangerous to the country and the 10 Commandments will save school kids from automatic weapons.
Nuff said. Nothing to see here, just give 'em a little room and they'll just tire themselves out.
Chris
Looks like they see the writing on the wall...
Chris
Dear Yahoo!,
I am unable to find another address to which I am able to complain about your plans to usurp you users Intellectual Property, so I am taking my chances and mailing you here.
I have removed my email address and changed my homepage away from yours in protest of your new TOS. I have been a big fan of Yahoo! pretty much since you started, having not only used you myself, but adding your page to all the systems I install (as opposed the the usual Microsoft or Netscape homepage). I felt that you had one of the best start pages in the business and have made it known to my coworkers and clients that this is the page of choice.
I will do this no longer.
Your recent Intellectual Property landgrab is completely uncalled for. Not only is it (probably) legally unfounded, but it is an insult to the userbase that you have either built up or acquired. Being forced to agree with your TOS *before* I could even get in to check and delete my mail is patently unfair. I did not agree and will not agree.
Perhaps you may be thinking that you will be trying to cover yourself legally, but there are *far* better ways than claiming rights to others' property. Perhaps you think that there are plenty of other free email and web hosting sites. You are correct. And I will find one. One that doesn't feel the need to steal my work.
I am truly disappointed in Yahoo!. It seems that one of my old friends has just shown himself to be a not only a bad neighbor, but a greedy, one as well.
I may possibly reconsider rejoining you should you remove the draconian TOS you have imposed, but I would need plenty of evidence of your contrition and large apology to the community that has made you the success that you are today.
Shame on you, Chris Eidem
I hope their hard drives seize...
Chris
But until then, my little 90 MHz Pentium, chugs along nicely, doing yeoman work without any notice at all. Just like a good network should.
All I'm saying is win 'em over with a bunch of small kindnesses, a quiet competence. Let 'em figure out for themselves that "Hey! I guess that thing really does work"
Metcalfe and his ilk are like the guards around the Wicked Witch's castle. Before Dorothy doused the devilish dame, they were all for killing our heroine, but afterwards, they were all for her. All the noise now is simply the beginning of Micros~1 screaming "I'm melting".
Patience, we'll be able to wear the Ruby Slippers in due time.
Chris (sorry about the Wizard of Oz ref. It's my fiancee's favorite movie and we watched it again this weekend and it's still in my head)
See, AOL is gonna use small cheap computers to dethrone us!
Chimps. I say dip the demons of Redmond in Gravy Train and feed 'em all to a pack of crazed poodles...
What?!?
For US$3500 you can get ten users using web, index and transaction services. Firewall? Perhaps he means the limited packet filtering that comes standard on WinNT. Database? I don't remember them throwing in SQL Server. Proxy 2.0 is anonther US$2000. Basically, Enterprise edition with all the stuff he mentioned runs:
$13,000 for an "integrated" WinNT Enterprise solution for 10 users...
Mayhaps he meant Windows Small Business Server. Still, I think the guy needs to see his dealer about the quality of his rock. It's giving him delusions...
FLASH
I love that ending...
I can see Micros~1 getting mighty testy after all this is said and done.
Chris
Between the overt attempt to fake a "groundswell" of support, the bungled videos in front of the DoJ and now the "benchmarks" that "prove" Linux is inferior to NT (as shown by an "independent" testing lab, no less), the Emperor's new clothes are revealing what Microsoft *really* means...
Considering the bull hockey moves of having PIII only websites (I guess since they move faster on the Internet than non-PIII sites), this seems like a sensible move on their part (and in their minds).
Let's hope they don't begin to get the content bug that has gotten into Micros~1's little mind.
Chris
I wish John Katz wrote as well as him... Chris
Try figuring that one out, little bed-wetting English-major type.
Chris
Doh!
Chris
Let's leave Cylon to the Microsoft distro... Chris
Sexier... BAH! I don't keep the cases on my computers long enough to worry about sexy. Besides, as far as I'm concerned, a good computer is a hidden computer. Keyboard, monitor, (maybe) mouse should be readily visible. Sexier... Creepy little things look like coolers. Blech
You know, cool as it sounds, I don't imagine something like this being any good where I live (Minnesota). January gets to be -40 (F or C, doesn't matter) and I don't think there's a piece of hardware alive for under $1M that could survive that. I mean, really, HDs are touchy enough as it is, but between the cold and the vibration, I don't see it being practical.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it would survive a winter where I live...
Chris