I couldn't find out how they get the snippets, the site is slow for me. But couldn't they make their own license, IE sayign that if you use this snippet, You have to use some sort of open source license? Of course if these things were ripped from existing code, they couldn't do that.
as opposed to what other country? The fact is, every other country is just as stupid and dumb as we are. We happened to stand out for the moment because our country is the richest and has overwhelming military might. It's kind of like being a politicean, they get nit picked for not knowing some little detail, and look like an idiot. Well the fact is everyone would look like an idiot if asked the proper questions, and the media wants this to happen so they try to find out what said person doesn't know to humialate them and make a story.
Holy Cow! They found WMD in Iraq??? Where exactly is the WMD and when was it found? What is the source of your info? If you're referring to the HUGE multi-day ABC news story on April 26-27, then you've been misled my friend. They knew 2 days beforehand it was unconfirmed and they didn't air a retraction when they later found out the story was false.
No, I was reffering to the fact that they had them before, as in years ago. That is unquestioned, gassing the kurds? And I should add, I don't own a TV, and when I'm at home (not my dorm room) I mainly watch CNN as far as news goes. Also should add, why should I trust progressive.org and fair.org anymore than abc.com and msnbc.com? No reason, you might say cus they alter stuff and whatnot. Well the fact is, EVERYONE does this, you, me, Sam, Joe, and Bob even. And they're big so they do it on a larger scale.
"We got crap from everywhere except basically Israel and our own people."
Of course this happened and here's exactly why:
Your points are helping my argument. I said why we wouldn't invade other countries that do similiar inhumane things. Iraq has ties to terrorism, and had chemical weapons. Every other country has a different situtation, so we can't justify ivnading countries, because people killing thousands does not make it right to invade another country according to international views. You have to have a specific threat to an outside element. North Korea has one threat, they're army and nuclear weapons. They are extremely isolated. Plus if they do happen to launch a nuclear weapon they will become non existant. So their usage of WMD is far less likely.
If I owned a "big-5" media company, I wouldn't air anti-war or anti-GOP stuff either given that the FCC was going to vote to relax media ownership rules on June 2, 2003--which would help me make billions more for my shareholders.
One of the problems wiht capitalism, point made. But like I said ebfore, everything is slanted, i try and get many news sources on an issue if i care about it. But the ironic thing is, that rarely do they ever add anything. They have their spin on issues and I daresay moreso than the Big US ones. IE I was reading an article about the Bush regime from some Arabic site. Good lord, the only facts he presented were things I already knew. Just his opinion on things.
Your progressiv elink just refers to the documents that he's unconvered and such. Why on earth would I believe him? Have other sites confirmed this? He could be lying extremely easily. But anyhow, if these things he reports are true, and I don't doubt they're not, than yes, the people involved should be punished. These types of things should be illegal. But you have 1 source, that proves exactly nothing.
If you re-read my post, you'll see that I explicately state that our government (USA) isn't evil. Our leaders are simply doing their job to make our country stronger for the future both economically and militarily. Unfortunately this end-goal sometimes requires very distasteful actions. And our public won't swallow these distasteful actions without vigorous protest if they had all the facts so we have to sanitize it and spin it so things don't get out of hand like it did during the Vietnam war.
Well find some evidence that's more credible than some joe blow 'uncovering' documents, and I'll believe you. I do not believe that our government could collectively cover up all these things, which out much more evidence being leaked. It's the nature of people to leak things. What good is a secret if you can't tell it? And overtime this does happen, as things become obsolete and such, yet you can find little evidence that we've more than any other country has done. And we are scrutinized by far the most, by other countries.
Nice to have an intelligent reply instead of some troll or some moron making fun of me.:)
This is probably where things have changed the most. Alright, doing research is easier and can be done at 2 am before a paper is due and such. But the basic search and find skills required to operate a search engine are not that much different than a card catolouge. Being in college, and having just completed a group project, I'd say that, that much has not changed really. Groups still get together, and don't use email as much as you'd think, even in my CS project, most of what we decided was via face to face meetings not email. Tho we used email the night before a ton, i believe 50 emails in that last day. When i did my group project in Internation Studies 101, we only used email to send the text that we needed to submit together, to each other. Everything else was meetings or phone calls.
So really, I don't think computers have changed college life that much. You still go to class with a notebook, pencil/pen. Still take tests/quizes/finals the same way. Maybe there's more scantrons now, because the technilogy is realitivly cheap. There are some online classes, and having taken 2 of them, I'd say they are pretty much crap, though handy if you really need the flexibility.
So basically, i think computers have had the biggest impact on the un-social types, that we can play games for 9 hours of the day without being bored and crap.
and finding out that's it's much harder to keep a country than defeat it, the empty warheads in the pentagon are now urging caution and not invasion, even though this country (NK) has openly admitted having WMD and has threatened to use them, as opposed to Iraq where now, finally, after months of pure unadulterated crap, people in the UK and the US of short_attention_span A are finally starting to realise that Bush, Blair and co. pulled a fast one on them.
Ahh yea, blair, who basically risked his job and I daresay life on this issue. But did so because he felt it was the right thing to do. How dare you say they pulled a fast one on us, what evidence do you have? none, zero, zip. Excluding some supposided news source that has the credibility of say the national enquirer(spellign?) ANd I cannot believe that people think Iraq did not have WMD.. they had them before, this is a fact, never displayed evidence that they destroyed them... so either they had them or gave them to someone else.. WHy would they get rid of them and not give any sort of evidence? umm they wouldn't. unless it was for other reasons IE giving them to someone else who would use them. so we're the war mongers for removing a regime resopnsibilty for brutaliy murdering hundreds of thousands of people, another undisputed fact.
We all know the North Koreans (well, the leader anyway) is much worse than Saddam & Iraq--for goodness sakes
This is like saying an apple is more of a fruit than an orange, they're both fruit, which is more of one? There's no real way to tell.
I dunno how many people have starved/died ect because of North Korea's aweful government, but i do know that hundreds of thousands have people have been killed by Saddam, and these are facts that no one questions. Saddam had WMD, another unquestioned fact, North Korea says they do or atleast are trying to build some. Who's worse they're both going to hell imo.
It isn't like we're actually in the business of overthrowing goverments in order to bring down evil dictators who abuse their people--we actually don't give a rats ass about human rights violations overseas--heck, look at Amnesty International's report on the number of children killed by both Israel & Palestine (hint: if you've been getting all your news from the same 5 mega corporations as me, you'll also be SHOCKED about which country actually killed more children last year).
The fact isn't so much that we don't give a rats ass, the fact is, look what happened to our foreign relationships when we attacked Saddam, someone, who as i said before, unquestionable killed hundreds of thousands of people, and even invaded another country. We got crap from everywhere except basically Israel and our own people. One of the problems is, the world in general lacks the ability to look at things in an objective manor. You can't say killing saddam is ok because he killed so many other people. people think you are a warmonger ect ect.
Another thing, why is anybody ever shocked when they learn Israel kills people? I swear, it's umm a duh factor. We killed children in Iraq. Is this stuff right? no. shit happens in war. quite frankly if I'm in the infantry and in a fire fight, if i think some kid poses a threat to me, I would shoot him. There is no time for second guessing and all this other stuff that you can do after the fact. War is hell, you're 'workday' is not hell, your life is not hell. War is. You have to make these decisions where there is no right answer and your decision means ending the life of others.
Again, think about the specific benefits we receive from wars and figure out a way for us to get them without actually doing nasty deeds like repeatedly killing/threatening foreign journalists or dropping cluster bombs that cause civilians to die. If you can help us gain those benefits, we might stop invading other countries and making up plausible stories to justify our actions.
Do you honestly believe that people in washington are so evil that they would do that? I believe their are some, and I believe a lot of them would lie if it were in their interests, but I do not believe that Bush or RUmsfeld or especially Powell would invade and kill thousands for money. If they do, they've got a nice spot in hell waiting for them, next to Saddam. But I don't believe they would, I believe, like most people, they would lie but not at the expense of thousands of lives.
I do however aggree 100% with your last paragraph.
out of curiosity.. is your sig in reference to the time the lakers beat the sonics in the first round when they shouldn't have. I damn near cried when that happened.. darn sonics
everytime I read something by him, I realise why he has been so successful. To bad People can't get past the idea that graphics make the game enjoyable, I can't recall a game of his i haven't enjoyed.
Depends, I my self love to code in any language i've ever seen. So if it was me.. i dunno I might do LISP or Scheme to start because they are extremely powerful and knowing one of them well, could be a very beneficial thing. On the other hand since most of coding is not done in functinoal languages I might start with C. C is the most beautiful language I think. almost as low as machine language yet a high level language that is extremely powerful, I gotta love it. So i dunno, I'd say if you want to become a coder go with C/C++, if you want to become a computer scientist go with LISP or Scheme.
I also have a story. I volunteered to make a webpage for my elementary school. The person who was in charge of the whole thing was the librarian. Needless to say, she knew about as much as click the icon to start the program. Which is fine, and shows you how far computers have come today. But she was in charge of the web page and admining the computer lab. Anyhow, they had bought, this a few years ago, 2 top of the line macs to be their servers because someone said that 2 computers were better for security. So they wasted all that money on 2 brand new macs and hand no software to run them as servers. So basically they had 2 desktops there. And to further iritate me, they only had a 56 k connection which of course kept dying so they thought it would be worthless to work on a webpage before they got whatever broadband connection they were after. All in all, pretty worthless, i dunno how they ever got a webserver up. Plus they knew something called a cloud and kept telling me they knew something about computers that i didn't.
What i thnk is interesting about that, is that windows has more than one meaning. I mean you could come accross joe bob brigs windows replacements or something. or even x windows. Maybe linux means something else in another language or something. But that stat is surprising. Though I think it's also fair to say that the people who have web pages are more technologically inclined and probably or more aware of stuff outside of Windows.
The only way you will learn anything remotely useful is to work with the language you want to learn extensively on your own. You actually still think you go to college to learn things??
Yes you go to college to learn things. And contrary to a popular believe here on/. you learn very usefull things. In a CS curriculum you are not taught things like which statement compiles faster x++ or x += 1 or x = x + 1, your taught about algorithms and models and abstract ideas. And programming is only a subset of computer science, there are other things that are taught like computer arcitecture and such. Dont' waste your money (or your parents or whoever's) to go to a university just to become a coder, go get a certification and in 9 months you're done.
But you do have a valid point, You won't learn anything unless you get down and dirty with a language.
And I assume they are, then don't sweat it man, both of those languages are usually taught in an extremely simple way in intro classes. Especially VB. I wound up having to take two semesters of VB (even after already taking advanced data structures in C++), and I lost points for not changing the background of my windows from grey to something like pink or orange. In the second semester class. I'm not kidding. And people wonder why I dropped out.
ALthough your professor may have been a prick for taking off points, it may be a valid thing to take points off of. If s/he had instructions to make the background pink and you put it orange i'd mark you off too. That's not following directions, no matter how trivial it is.
I mean, take scheme for instance, we've used it in college to to parse lists and stuff. which is all well and good, but can Scheme or LISP be used for any real development? Not to mention any program you can make, can easily be ported to C++, but of course being in college around professors, C++ is the root of all evil heh
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I couldn't find out how they get the snippets, the site is slow for me. But couldn't they make their own license, IE sayign that if you use this snippet, You have to use some sort of open source license? Of course if these things were ripped from existing code, they couldn't do that.
as opposed to what other country? The fact is, every other country is just as stupid and dumb as we are. We happened to stand out for the moment because our country is the richest and has overwhelming military might. It's kind of like being a politicean, they get nit picked for not knowing some little detail, and look like an idiot. Well the fact is everyone would look like an idiot if asked the proper questions, and the media wants this to happen so they try to find out what said person doesn't know to humialate them and make a story.
No, I was reffering to the fact that they had them before, as in years ago. That is unquestioned, gassing the kurds? And I should add, I don't own a TV, and when I'm at home (not my dorm room) I mainly watch CNN as far as news goes. Also should add, why should I trust progressive.org and fair.org anymore than abc.com and msnbc.com? No reason, you might say cus they alter stuff and whatnot. Well the fact is, EVERYONE does this, you, me, Sam, Joe, and Bob even. And they're big so they do it on a larger scale.
Your points are helping my argument. I said why we wouldn't invade other countries that do similiar inhumane things. Iraq has ties to terrorism, and had chemical weapons. Every other country has a different situtation, so we can't justify ivnading countries, because people killing thousands does not make it right to invade another country according to international views. You have to have a specific threat to an outside element. North Korea has one threat, they're army and nuclear weapons. They are extremely isolated. Plus if they do happen to launch a nuclear weapon they will become non existant. So their usage of WMD is far less likely.
One of the problems wiht capitalism, point made. But like I said ebfore, everything is slanted, i try and get many news sources on an issue if i care about it. But the ironic thing is, that rarely do they ever add anything. They have their spin on issues and I daresay moreso than the Big US ones. IE I was reading an article about the Bush regime from some Arabic site. Good lord, the only facts he presented were things I already knew. Just his opinion on things.
Your progressiv elink just refers to the documents that he's unconvered and such. Why on earth would I believe him? Have other sites confirmed this? He could be lying extremely easily. But anyhow, if these things he reports are true, and I don't doubt they're not, than yes, the people involved should be punished. These types of things should be illegal. But you have 1 source, that proves exactly nothing.
Well find some evidence that's more credible than some joe blow 'uncovering' documents, and I'll believe you. I do not believe that our government could collectively cover up all these things, which out much more evidence being leaked. It's the nature of people to leak things. What good is a secret if you can't tell it? And overtime this does happen, as things become obsolete and such, yet you can find little evidence that we've more than any other country has done. And we are scrutinized by far the most, by other countries.
Nice to have an intelligent reply instead of some troll or some moron making fun of me.
This is probably where things have changed the most. Alright, doing research is easier and can be done at 2 am before a paper is due and such. But the basic search and find skills required to operate a search engine are not that much different than a card catolouge. Being in college, and having just completed a group project, I'd say that, that much has not changed really. Groups still get together, and don't use email as much as you'd think, even in my CS project, most of what we decided was via face to face meetings not email. Tho we used email the night before a ton, i believe 50 emails in that last day. When i did my group project in Internation Studies 101, we only used email to send the text that we needed to submit together, to each other. Everything else was meetings or phone calls.
So really, I don't think computers have changed college life that much. You still go to class with a notebook, pencil/pen. Still take tests/quizes/finals the same way. Maybe there's more scantrons now, because the technilogy is realitivly cheap. There are some online classes, and having taken 2 of them, I'd say they are pretty much crap, though handy if you really need the flexibility.
So basically, i think computers have had the biggest impact on the un-social types, that we can play games for 9 hours of the day without being bored and crap.
it was a joke
So add the extra million that comes from other countries, to the movie industry and games still whoop ass on movies
Ahh yea, blair, who basically risked his job and I daresay life on this issue. But did so because he felt it was the right thing to do. How dare you say they pulled a fast one on us, what evidence do you have? none, zero, zip. Excluding some supposided news source that has the credibility of say the national enquirer(spellign?) ANd I cannot believe that people think Iraq did not have WMD.. they had them before, this is a fact, never displayed evidence that they destroyed them... so either they had them or gave them to someone else.. WHy would they get rid of them and not give any sort of evidence? umm they wouldn't. unless it was for other reasons IE giving them to someone else who would use them. so we're the war mongers for removing a regime resopnsibilty for brutaliy murdering hundreds of thousands of people, another undisputed fact.
This is like saying an apple is more of a fruit than an orange, they're both fruit, which is more of one? There's no real way to tell.
I dunno how many people have starved/died ect because of North Korea's aweful government, but i do know that hundreds of thousands have people have been killed by Saddam, and these are facts that no one questions. Saddam had WMD, another unquestioned fact, North Korea says they do or atleast are trying to build some. Who's worse they're both going to hell imo.
The fact isn't so much that we don't give a rats ass, the fact is, look what happened to our foreign relationships when we attacked Saddam, someone, who as i said before, unquestionable killed hundreds of thousands of people, and even invaded another country. We got crap from everywhere except basically Israel and our own people. One of the problems is, the world in general lacks the ability to look at things in an objective manor. You can't say killing saddam is ok because he killed so many other people. people think you are a warmonger ect ect.
Another thing, why is anybody ever shocked when they learn Israel kills people? I swear, it's umm a duh factor. We killed children in Iraq. Is this stuff right? no. shit happens in war. quite frankly if I'm in the infantry and in a fire fight, if i think some kid poses a threat to me, I would shoot him. There is no time for second guessing and all this other stuff that you can do after the fact. War is hell, you're 'workday' is not hell, your life is not hell. War is. You have to make these decisions where there is no right answer and your decision means ending the life of others.
Do you honestly believe that people in washington are so evil that they would do that? I believe their are some, and I believe a lot of them would lie if it were in their interests, but I do not believe that Bush or RUmsfeld or especially Powell would invade and kill thousands for money. If they do, they've got a nice spot in hell waiting for them, next to Saddam. But I don't believe they would, I believe, like most people, they would lie but not at the expense of thousands of lives.
I do however aggree 100% with your last paragraph.
out of curiosity.. is your sig in reference to the time the lakers beat the sonics in the first round when they shouldn't have. I damn near cried when that happened.. darn sonics
everytime I read something by him, I realise why he has been so successful. To bad People can't get past the idea that graphics make the game enjoyable, I can't recall a game of his i haven't enjoyed.
yeah, but like many of the atari games, it's impossible to win.
Depends, I my self love to code in any language i've ever seen. So if it was me.. i dunno I might do LISP or Scheme to start because they are extremely powerful and knowing one of them well, could be a very beneficial thing. On the other hand since most of coding is not done in functinoal languages I might start with C. C is the most beautiful language I think. almost as low as machine language yet a high level language that is extremely powerful, I gotta love it. So i dunno, I'd say if you want to become a coder go with C/C++, if you want to become a computer scientist go with LISP or Scheme.
/. never ceases to amaze me. A guy makes a remark about hiring some chick for him to look at and it gets modded interesting.
What the hell is interesting about that comment???
Custer's Revenge [atariage.com]. I can't imagine seeing this one on the big screen.
I, and many others, used to say atari instead of video games.
Yes because platform games are sooooo hard to recreate..
Posted so long ago, yet so few comments, oh wait BSD.. Nvrmind
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I also have a story. I volunteered to make a webpage for my elementary school. The person who was in charge of the whole thing was the librarian. Needless to say, she knew about as much as click the icon to start the program. Which is fine, and shows you how far computers have come today. But she was in charge of the web page and admining the computer lab. Anyhow, they had bought, this a few years ago, 2 top of the line macs to be their servers because someone said that 2 computers were better for security. So they wasted all that money on 2 brand new macs and hand no software to run them as servers. So basically they had 2 desktops there. And to further iritate me, they only had a 56 k connection which of course kept dying so they thought it would be worthless to work on a webpage before they got whatever broadband connection they were after. All in all, pretty worthless, i dunno how they ever got a webserver up. Plus they knew something called a cloud and kept telling me they knew something about computers that i didn't.
What i thnk is interesting about that, is that windows has more than one meaning. I mean you could come accross joe bob brigs windows replacements or something. or even x windows. Maybe linux means something else in another language or something. But that stat is surprising. Though I think it's also fair to say that the people who have web pages are more technologically inclined and probably or more aware of stuff outside of Windows.
I'm not sure what is scarier, that this things exists or that slashdot moddes it informative.
Yes you go to college to learn things. And contrary to a popular believe here on
But you do have a valid point, You won't learn anything unless you get down and dirty with a language.
ALthough your professor may have been a prick for taking off points, it may be a valid thing to take points off of. If s/he had instructions to make the background pink and you put it orange i'd mark you off too. That's not following directions, no matter how trivial it is.
this would be why I asked, I've never seen anything more than AI stuff done in LISP.
I mean, take scheme for instance, we've used it in college to to parse lists and stuff. which is all well and good, but can Scheme or LISP be used for any real development? Not to mention any program you can make, can easily be ported to C++, but of course being in college around professors, C++ is the root of all evil heh
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