Mod parent up. This exact false claim came up and was corrected in the last thread on this subject. People seem to have some vague idea that their gas tanks are in some holy Invulnerable Protected Zone. There is no such place in a car. And I've never seen a tank that isn't on the underside, perfectly exposed to road debris (as are the fuel lines, generally).
iOS can be argued to be less secure than Android because the entire OS depends on the jail mechanism.
What does this sentence mean? From context it looks like you're saying the only form of security on iOS is Apple's App Store approval system, but that's obviously false. Every app is sandboxed (no access to the system or other apps) and must request specific permission for privileged data (location/contacts/photos/calendars/etc.).
Because you also had the alternative option of writing an essay, or some such thing (but the experiments were far more interesting than writing yet another essay; who'd choose an essay?). I've never seen a psych department that doesn't offer alternatives, for this very reason. You can't force participation.
It does make a lot of sense. Unlike their future-proof retail stores, automotive services are too easily purchased over the Internet nowadays. I mean seriously, who isn't buying oil changes on Amazon?
Where the hell did you get half the shit you're arguing against? He said a number of people who use pickups for work use them to haul their equipment and materials to the job site, whereupon they use that stuff in the course of their jobs while the truck sits there. Sounds like every contractor, plumber, electrician, and handyman I've ever met. What exactly was your problem with that concept?
IIRC, Childs modified the system and changed the passwords in order to intentionally lock out the other sysadmins. This case was more like installing your own lock into the truck before quitting.
One of the reasons they noticed the issue is they don't actually delete expunged messages for a week (the blog post says for backup purposes). The Mail bug, for whatever reason, duplicates the junk mail and immediately cleans up after itself by expunging the originals. If the server were actually deleting them it wouldn't be such a critical issue (but an issue nonetheless).
It's also worth noting though that so far, there is only a single report of this, despite the author implying they have a huge number of users. Most likely this isn't something that happens on the average Mail install; it could be that Mail is hitting some error condition on this user's specific account and that is causing the bug to manifest.
I filed some bugs on Mavericks' Mail right after the first developer preview came out (all ended up being marked as duplicates, so others were having the same issue). All were closed the week before the GM was released. And all are still present in the GM; they're MailGmail specific. However, enabling "All Mail" and removing [Gmail] from my IMAP path prefix made everything work.
Clearly, whoever rewrote Mail to "better" support Gmail decided that as long as it worked okay with just the right settings, any deviation from that wasn't a bug but just user error. Despite the fact that those settings were both perfectly valid and *incredibly* common.
I think moving OS X to a yearly release schedule results in them pushing things out too fast. It's bad enough with iOS, and OS X is a more complex beast.
The method they use has absolutely nothing to do with accessing the emails/files with the Mail app as described by AuMatar - it's an injection via a proxy before the data ever hits the Mail app. I was specifically addressing AuMatar's fear that "you have an email app that downloads messages to your phone, it could be reading those files and sending them back to Linkedin."
Also, there is some interesting hilarity in you getting modded up for pointing me to a link that *I* introduced to this thread.
You have to allow their app to install a configuration profile that sets up iOS's Mail app to get your email through LinkedIn's proxy server; then LinkedIn can read your email and inject relevant code directly into the message before it hits the mail client: http://engineering.linkedin.com/mobile/linkedin-intro-doing-impossible-ios *barf*
Yes, this was done by a bunch of 13 year olds from troop 26 in Spokane, WA - not the adults that run the national organization. There's no way THOSE guys could be a bag of dicks.
Not moot at all. It was a rebuttal to brunes69's false claim that "the 5S was a comparatively slow phone to top of the line Android devices before it even came out. So your facts are garbled quite a bit."
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Sorry, Billy. Can't have you in the class. It would jeapordize my bonus...
For a guy who started off a reply with an emphatic "Wrong" you sure do seem to agree with the guy you quoted.
Mod parent up. This exact false claim came up and was corrected in the last thread on this subject. People seem to have some vague idea that their gas tanks are in some holy Invulnerable Protected Zone. There is no such place in a car. And I've never seen a tank that isn't on the underside, perfectly exposed to road debris (as are the fuel lines, generally).
iOS can be argued to be less secure than Android because the entire OS depends on the jail mechanism.
What does this sentence mean? From context it looks like you're saying the only form of security on iOS is Apple's App Store approval system, but that's obviously false. Every app is sandboxed (no access to the system or other apps) and must request specific permission for privileged data (location/contacts/photos/calendars/etc.).
Because you also had the alternative option of writing an essay, or some such thing (but the experiments were far more interesting than writing yet another essay; who'd choose an essay?). I've never seen a psych department that doesn't offer alternatives, for this very reason. You can't force participation.
It does make a lot of sense. Unlike their future-proof retail stores, automotive services are too easily purchased over the Internet nowadays. I mean seriously, who isn't buying oil changes on Amazon?
Where the hell did you get half the shit you're arguing against? He said a number of people who use pickups for work use them to haul their equipment and materials to the job site, whereupon they use that stuff in the course of their jobs while the truck sits there. Sounds like every contractor, plumber, electrician, and handyman I've ever met. What exactly was your problem with that concept?
http://www.harborfreight.com/triple-ball-trailer-hitch-69874.html
Hey, he managed to Godwin the Streisand Effect (or is it the other way around?). He's definitely special.
It is true: the Autobahn is a single, linear tunnel straight through the core of the earth. Great way to get to Fiji.
IIRC, Childs modified the system and changed the passwords in order to intentionally lock out the other sysadmins. This case was more like installing your own lock into the truck before quitting.
Whose hacks? (What hacks?) I'm not clear on what you're asking.
This is one of the bugs I reported months ago that got marked 'closed.' :/
Enable the "all mail" folder to be visible in IMAP, and remove [Gmail] as your IMAP path prefix. That fixed it for me.
One of the reasons they noticed the issue is they don't actually delete expunged messages for a week (the blog post says for backup purposes). The Mail bug, for whatever reason, duplicates the junk mail and immediately cleans up after itself by expunging the originals. If the server were actually deleting them it wouldn't be such a critical issue (but an issue nonetheless).
It's also worth noting though that so far, there is only a single report of this, despite the author implying they have a huge number of users. Most likely this isn't something that happens on the average Mail install; it could be that Mail is hitting some error condition on this user's specific account and that is causing the bug to manifest.
I filed some bugs on Mavericks' Mail right after the first developer preview came out (all ended up being marked as duplicates, so others were having the same issue). All were closed the week before the GM was released. And all are still present in the GM; they're MailGmail specific. However, enabling "All Mail" and removing [Gmail] from my IMAP path prefix made everything work.
Clearly, whoever rewrote Mail to "better" support Gmail decided that as long as it worked okay with just the right settings, any deviation from that wasn't a bug but just user error. Despite the fact that those settings were both perfectly valid and *incredibly* common.
I think moving OS X to a yearly release schedule results in them pushing things out too fast. It's bad enough with iOS, and OS X is a more complex beast.
If you're using [Gmail] as the IMAP path prefix, try getting rid of that, too. That solved all my problems.
The method they use has absolutely nothing to do with accessing the emails/files with the Mail app as described by AuMatar - it's an injection via a proxy before the data ever hits the Mail app. I was specifically addressing AuMatar's fear that "you have an email app that downloads messages to your phone, it could be reading those files and sending them back to Linkedin."
Also, there is some interesting hilarity in you getting modded up for pointing me to a link that *I* introduced to this thread.
Informative summary; in case anyone cares LinkedIn's official explanation is here: http://engineering.linkedin.com/mobile/linkedin-intro-doing-impossible-ios
An iOS app has no access to any other app's files. The scheme you describe would fortunately be impossible.
You have to allow their app to install a configuration profile that sets up iOS's Mail app to get your email through LinkedIn's proxy server; then LinkedIn can read your email and inject relevant code directly into the message before it hits the mail client: http://engineering.linkedin.com/mobile/linkedin-intro-doing-impossible-ios *barf*
There are plenty of examples of intraspecific parasitism. What's species have to do with the nature of a relationship?
I had a dir-655 years ago and I ran Tomato on it. I'd be surprised if there weren't a DD-WRT build for it by now too.
No need to be so damn insistent that the guy is responding to you. It's obvious given the threaded nature of the discussion!
Yes, this was done by a bunch of 13 year olds from troop 26 in Spokane, WA - not the adults that run the national organization. There's no way THOSE guys could be a bag of dicks.
Not moot at all. It was a rebuttal to brunes69's false claim that "the 5S was a comparatively slow phone to top of the line Android devices before it even came out. So your facts are garbled quite a bit."