What are you talking about they don't sell real electronics anymore? My local radio shack salesman says that if they don't sell it, they don't make it.
Exactly, if the Segway was $700 or less, I'd consider one. But for $3000+, I could buy a motorcycle that would go faster, further and be a little more normal. Heck, for $3000 I could buy a high end racing bicycle and put an electric motor on it.
Exactly, in my own experience, I started using CD-Rs in 1996. Back in 2007, I spent the time to copy all my old CD-ROMs of value to a hard drive for archival. I found that pretty much all of them were readable, even the 5 or 6 that were from '96. The only one I had problems with was a hybrid audio/data disc that I foolishly wrote in a proprietary format. But 80 or so of the discs that were spread across all the years worked ok. I was actually surprised because I expected some to be unreadable. I do think its great that they are trying to improve the longevity of the discs though, but they should find a solution that doesn't require a special drive.
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Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way and I already tried that. A few years ago we added a new shared server to the mix, I left FTP off and anyone who asked I told them about SSH/SCP/SFTP, why its better and encouraged them to use WinSCP or a Mac equivalent. As I mentioned before, some people used special programs that didn't have SFTP support or whatever and wouldn't make the switch, they would just cancel their service and go elsewhere.
Its hard to hold your values when hosting providers are a dime a dozen and people would rather go somewhere else where there are no restrictions than put up with good security practices. Some people do stay and appreciate it, but many don't.
Ironically, my fortune cookie from last night at the local Chinese buffet said "If you do what is right in business, money will come to you" or something like that.
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And many of the cheap hosting plans if not 50% of the web hosting industry these days is run by people without a clue. They are run by business people looking for a quick buck. So they just buy a turnkey solution with cpanel or whatever else. None of them read Slashdot or any security websites and most of them could care less if they are insecure. All they care about is that they look good and that they have a pretty girl on the front of their site.
Even big ones like Dreamhost have no clue and are insecure as hell. I haven't updated it in a while and I've heard that Dreamhost fixed or obfuscated their flaws, but I wrote a list of vulnerabilities that Dreamhost has at http://suso.suso.org/xulu/Web_hosting_providers_with_poor_security
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I'm the founder and main admin of a web hosting company and we've been trying to switch people to SSH/SFTP/SCP for many years. We even put an ultimatum on FTP users back in 2006 that by the end of the year, we'd be turning off FTP. You know what happened? Users backlashed and complained that their old antiquated website software like old versions of Dreamweaver or whatever couldn't do SFTP or SCP even though versions that did had been available for a few years. Also, people who came from other hosting companies too us didn't know about more secure protocols and complained when they had to switch away from their old programs that they liked, even if WinSCP works great. So in the interest of keeping customers, we had to leave it on. We've been pushing SSH since the 90s. And I wrote the # 1 ranked SSH tutorial on the net. So how do you think I feel? Its a really annoying problem and it may take several more years before it completely goes away.
On the other hand, there is one thing that I haven't seen available with SSH and that's the ability to have virtual users and let them be created by the parent user. Maybe there is a trick to make it possible in SCP/SFTP, but there are customers out there who need the ability to have sub users who manage parts of their site and so on. Many FTP servers allow this, but SSH does not. So this is another FTP feature that keeps it going.
And while I'm griping about it, it REALLY doesn't help the situation that WinSCP started supporting FTP.
Hey chill, give em a break. There is something to be said for filtering out every little feature request that gets sent your way. Good filters are how great software stays great (like Linux) and makes sure that the project doesn't veer in the wrong direction. I don't know much about the Firefox developers, but I'd say they have good reason to be filters for a lot of things.
As a sysadmin, I deal all the time with users asking for the latest features, but I have to weigh which ones can be done now, which ones have to wait and which ones shouldn't be done because they are stupid. I try to keep an open mind, but sometimes you get stuck in a rut because of old information or "the way things used to work", so you just have to be patient, try to show the new way and hope that it sinks in.
Technically, yes. But its a specialized environment. Like Tivo is. By chart I mean it would be cool to buy a large poster that showed where Linux has been used and it would have a large category for GNU/Linux distros, but it would also show all the various ways Linux has been embedded or used in different ways, on phones, in Chrome/OS and so on. It would be educational and insightful to see.
Nope, its a Linux distribution because it uses the Linux kernel. What you are used to is many GNU/Linux distributions. But there are other distrubtions out there. Gentoo is very different from a lot of other Linux distributions, but it still falls into the GNU category because by default it comes with most of the stand GNU utilities.
Why read the article when people can reply to my comment with the relevant details.;-) Actually, just so that I don't sound like a complete ass, I read the MSNBC article before coming here this morning and it didn't mention anything about open source, but of course why would it I guess. I would think the Slashdot summary would have mentioned that as it would be a VERY important point.
If they do make it fully open, that would be awesome.
You do bring up an interesting point. Getting people to try an operating system is hard and not for the timid. I'm skeptical that Google would be able to get people to try it. I mean they could do one of a few things:
1) Sell some device that has the OS on it (would need to be cheap otherwise who would spend the money on it besides hobbyists)
2) Run it in a virtual machine and make it more as a program that you'd run on current OSes (so what are the benefits then?)
3) Try to get people to download it, install it alongside or replace their current OS (how many of us would really do this except to try it out as a toy and then go back to our other OS? Open source has a community drive behind it that encourages people to help others install it, but commercial OSes don't really get that kind of momentum.)
Seems to me like if Google wants this to work, they need to open source it. And I think they will run into the argument of "I can already run web apps on my current system and it generally works ok. Plus I can run private apps if I want to."
I'm not surprised you were marked down as Troll, but you kinda have a point. Although that's a though point to follow. This is what is called defensive driving and more people need to understand it. You can't really blame the victim in all cases of course because sometimes you can't react quick enough and a drunk driver is unpredictable. But there are definitely times when a more alert driver could have saved their own life. I myself have saved my life a few times by being alert and predicting that for example someone would run a red light (which they did at 60mph). It basically comes down to the fact that you can't 100% rely on the mechanics of the road to do their job, you have to obey your own senses. There are a lot of good drivers out there believe it or not, but they are just the canvas on which we see the morons painted.
Someone should try suing "God" sometime for "an act of God". Or at least suing his agents (the churches?) and see how far they get. It would be interesting to see a judge tackle that one and try to save face. Its kinda like those movies where they sue Santa Claus.
See, this is something that open source accomplishes that stupid fucking arrogant businesses will never get. When something is obsolete or no longer needed, it gets ditched or replaced by something better. Don't keep it around because someone thinks that they have the right to continue being in business even though their shit is a decade out of date. Its a hard and cold life for the developer whose project gets ditched (And sometimes I feel bad for them), but in the end, the user wins big and things evolve.
But of course, the rest of the world lives in reality, so the user loses.
Fuck you Microsoft. Die already! Fuck you Adobe. Die already! Fuck you Java. Die already! Fuck you too Realnetworks. Just because.
That's why you put something like "Officials at the TSA where unavailable for comment" in your article. Which is something you see in professionally done articles.
Exactly. Its similar to how exploits are reported on open source vs. closed source. In closed source, bug reports aren't exactly welcomed, so a lot of them don't get reported or are unknown.
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So does 69 and 42. Maybe they are related.
That's funny I always thought scuzzy drives needed garbage collection. Ta-dit-boom. Thanks, try the veal.
Because there is a HUGE difference between liquefying people and copying someone's game.
What are you talking about they don't sell real electronics anymore? My local radio shack salesman says that if they don't sell it, they don't make it.
Exactly, if the Segway was $700 or less, I'd consider one. But for $3000+, I could buy a motorcycle that would go faster, further and be a little more normal. Heck, for $3000 I could buy a high end racing bicycle and put an electric motor on it.
Exactly, in my own experience, I started using CD-Rs in 1996. Back in 2007, I spent the time to copy all my old CD-ROMs of value to a hard drive for archival. I found that pretty much all of them were readable, even the 5 or 6 that were from '96. The only one I had problems with was a hybrid audio/data disc that I foolishly wrote in a proprietary format. But 80 or so of the discs that were spread across all the years worked ok. I was actually surprised because I expected some to be unreadable. I do think its great that they are trying to improve the longevity of the discs though, but they should find a solution that doesn't require a special drive.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way and I already tried that. A few years ago we added a new shared server to the mix, I left FTP off and anyone who asked I told them about SSH/SCP/SFTP, why its better and encouraged them to use WinSCP or a Mac equivalent. As I mentioned before, some people used special programs that didn't have SFTP support or whatever and wouldn't make the switch, they would just cancel their service and go elsewhere.
Its hard to hold your values when hosting providers are a dime a dozen and people would rather go somewhere else where there are no restrictions than put up with good security practices. Some people do stay and appreciate it, but many don't.
Ironically, my fortune cookie from last night at the local Chinese buffet said "If you do what is right in business, money will come to you" or something like that.
And many of the cheap hosting plans if not 50% of the web hosting industry these days is run by people without a clue. They are run by business people looking for a quick buck. So they just buy a turnkey solution with cpanel or whatever else. None of them read Slashdot or any security websites and most of them could care less if they are insecure. All they care about is that they look good and that they have a pretty girl on the front of their site.
Even big ones like Dreamhost have no clue and are insecure as hell. I haven't updated it in a while and I've heard that Dreamhost fixed or obfuscated their flaws, but I wrote a list of vulnerabilities that Dreamhost has at http://suso.suso.org/xulu/Web_hosting_providers_with_poor_security
I'm the founder and main admin of a web hosting company and we've been trying to switch people to SSH/SFTP/SCP for many years. We even put an ultimatum on FTP users back in 2006 that by the end of the year, we'd be turning off FTP. You know what happened? Users backlashed and complained that their old antiquated website software like old versions of Dreamweaver or whatever couldn't do SFTP or SCP even though versions that did had been available for a few years. Also, people who came from other hosting companies too us didn't know about more secure protocols and complained when they had to switch away from their old programs that they liked, even if WinSCP works great. So in the interest of keeping customers, we had to leave it on. We've been pushing SSH since the 90s. And I wrote the # 1 ranked SSH tutorial on the net. So how do you think I feel? Its a really annoying problem and it may take several more years before it completely goes away.
On the other hand, there is one thing that I haven't seen available with SSH and that's the ability to have virtual users and let them be created by the parent user. Maybe there is a trick to make it possible in SCP/SFTP, but there are customers out there who need the ability to have sub users who manage parts of their site and so on. Many FTP servers allow this, but SSH does not. So this is another FTP feature that keeps it going.
And while I'm griping about it, it REALLY doesn't help the situation that WinSCP started supporting FTP.
Ok, but when you are in another country you should be carrying your passport 100% of the time.
Hey chill, give em a break. There is something to be said for filtering out every little feature request that gets sent your way. Good filters are how great software stays great (like Linux) and makes sure that the project doesn't veer in the wrong direction. I don't know much about the Firefox developers, but I'd say they have good reason to be filters for a lot of things.
As a sysadmin, I deal all the time with users asking for the latest features, but I have to weigh which ones can be done now, which ones have to wait and which ones shouldn't be done because they are stupid. I try to keep an open mind, but sometimes you get stuck in a rut because of old information or "the way things used to work", so you just have to be patient, try to show the new way and hope that it sinks in.
This is cool. Competition is good.
Technically, yes. But its a specialized environment. Like Tivo is. By chart I mean it would be cool to buy a large poster that showed where Linux has been used and it would have a large category for GNU/Linux distros, but it would also show all the various ways Linux has been embedded or used in different ways, on phones, in Chrome/OS and so on. It would be educational and insightful to see.
Nope, its a Linux distribution because it uses the Linux kernel. What you are used to is many GNU/Linux distributions. But there are other distrubtions out there. Gentoo is very different from a lot of other Linux distributions, but it still falls into the GNU category because by default it comes with most of the stand GNU utilities.
Someone needs to make a chart or something.
Why read the article when people can reply to my comment with the relevant details. ;-) Actually, just so that I don't sound like a complete ass, I read the MSNBC article before coming here this morning and it didn't mention anything about open source, but of course why would it I guess. I would think the Slashdot summary would have mentioned that as it would be a VERY important point.
If they do make it fully open, that would be awesome.
So then really this Chrome OS will be a Linux distribution. Technically right?
You do bring up an interesting point. Getting people to try an operating system is hard and not for the timid. I'm skeptical that Google would be able to get people to try it. I mean they could do one of a few things:
Seems to me like if Google wants this to work, they need to open source it. And I think they will run into the argument of "I can already run web apps on my current system and it generally works ok. Plus I can run private apps if I want to."
I'm not surprised you were marked down as Troll, but you kinda have a point. Although that's a though point to follow. This is what is called defensive driving and more people need to understand it. You can't really blame the victim in all cases of course because sometimes you can't react quick enough and a drunk driver is unpredictable. But there are definitely times when a more alert driver could have saved their own life. I myself have saved my life a few times by being alert and predicting that for example someone would run a red light (which they did at 60mph). It basically comes down to the fact that you can't 100% rely on the mechanics of the road to do their job, you have to obey your own senses. There are a lot of good drivers out there believe it or not, but they are just the canvas on which we see the morons painted.
Someone should try suing "God" sometime for "an act of God". Or at least suing his agents (the churches?) and see how far they get. It would be interesting to see a judge tackle that one and try to save face. Its kinda like those movies where they sue Santa Claus.
Do you really want to trust Windows with your data?
Thank you. You put it more eloquently than I did.
See, this is something that open source accomplishes that stupid fucking arrogant businesses will never get. When something is obsolete or no longer needed, it gets ditched or replaced by something better. Don't keep it around because someone thinks that they have the right to continue being in business even though their shit is a decade out of date. Its a hard and cold life for the developer whose project gets ditched (And sometimes I feel bad for them), but in the end, the user wins big and things evolve.
But of course, the rest of the world lives in reality, so the user loses.
Fuck you Microsoft. Die already!
Fuck you Adobe. Die already!
Fuck you Java. Die already!
Fuck you too Realnetworks. Just because.
I see a lot of new faces here tonight, which means that a lot of you have been breaking the first two rules or fight club.
That's why you put something like "Officials at the TSA where unavailable for comment" in your article. Which is something you see in professionally done articles.
Exactly. Its similar to how exploits are reported on open source vs. closed source. In closed source, bug reports aren't exactly welcomed, so a lot of them don't get reported or are unknown.