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RadioShack To Rebrand As "The Shack"?

Harry writes "Rumor has it that RadioShack is planning to re-brand itself as The Shack later this year, after eighty-eight years under the old name (most of them with a space in between 'Radio' and 'Shack'). I hope it's not true, because I don't think the move would do a thing to make the retailer a better, more successful business." Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

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  1. Beware of namechanges by Duds · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's very dangerous to rebrand because of how much you lose vs how much you gain. IBM makes bugger all money from "International Business Machines" these days but they wouldn't want to lose a brand everyone knows. Same for "Carphone Warehouse" in the UK, they don't want to lose the recognition despite the fact no-one has called a cell/mobile phone a car phone in 2 decades.

    And Microsoft's stuff certainly isn't small. (*sidesteps hook*)

    So despite the lack of "Radio" as their main business, they should REALLY look and see if the number of people who say "I don't need a radio I won't go there" might be outnumbered by the people who will end up saying "What the f is "The Shack"?". It sounds like somewhere you'd buy a very dodgy Hawaiian style shirt.

    1. Re:Beware of namechanges by sixsixtysix · · Score: 1

      i know what you mean. i stopped drinking Nestle Quick after it was portmanteaued to NesQuick.

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    2. Re:Beware of namechanges by Duds · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh that's what it is, I thought it was a service that delivered you a popular 80s console by 9am...

    3. Re:Beware of namechanges by e4g4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they should REALLY look and see if the number of people who say "I don't need a radio I won't go there" might be outnumbered by the people who will end up saying "What the f is "The Shack"?"

      They should really look and see if the marketing company, to whom they undoubtedly gave millions of dollars for this rebranding idea, is worth their salt. On the other hand - name changes aren't always bad - Verizon seems to be managing just fine.

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    4. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they rebranded in canada years ago to "The Source"... now the store is terrible and i never go as opposed to it being my default store

    5. Re:Beware of namechanges by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Informative

      They rebranded it from "Radio Shack" to "The Source" in Canada years and years ago. But everyone I know still refers to it as "Radio Shack". I can't even remember the name "The Source" well enough to tell someone how to find the place... I had to check online before I made this post.

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    6. Re:Beware of namechanges by rarel · · Score: 2, Insightful
      On the other end of the scale it can also be seen as a life saver for a company precisely because everyone knows the name.

      For example, the French Thomson SA is in a middle of restructuring, changed its field of business, and has been struggling because people still see it as a cheap brand of consumer electronics whereas they are now catering to pro industry clients. So changing name = blank slate, as it were.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/mergersNews/idUSLR8701120090727

      Not necessarily what happens here with "The Shack" (name sounds ridiculous btw), just saying that it can be carefully planned decision, and possibly financially sound.

      (Let's not talk about "Sy Fy" ;))

    7. Re:Beware of namechanges by Moryath · · Score: 5, Funny

      The rebranding of "The Shack" is because it's the only thing the marketing company could come up with that beat the more-apt "Crap Shack" moniker.

      Remember: Even the Radio Shack CEO can't figure out how his company stays in business.

    8. Re:Beware of namechanges by Canazza · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's been called Nesquik everywhere but the US, Canada, Mexico and Australia since the 1950s, the name was changed to "Nesquik" in 1999 in those countries.

      Unlike Opal Fruits, which were introduced as Starburst in the US in the 1970's and then had the brand changed everywhere else

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    9. Re:Beware of namechanges by lorenlal · · Score: 1

      Agreed. "The Shack" just sounds incredibly sketchy to me. It'll garner some initial attention (like us making fun of it), but I don't think that's what they were looking for in the name change. I could be wrong though... I've never been in marketing.

    10. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      carphone is a slang term in parts of america for using cellphones in cars.

    11. Re:Beware of namechanges by MBCook · · Score: 4, Funny

      Agreed. "The Shack" just sounds incredibly sketchy to me.

      So you're saying the new name is a better fit?

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    12. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This could explain the recent rename of SciFi network. They want to lose their reputation for destroying series and bad made for TV movies, and hope that after changing their name to SyFy, people will forget. Unfortunately, they'll probably forget to fix their programming and just reaquire the bad reputation all over again.

    13. Re:Beware of namechanges by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      The US ones are far tastier though.

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    14. Re:Beware of namechanges by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Worse, choosing a name that goes from "The Shack" to "The Suck" so smoothly(and appropriately) just seems like a terrible plan...

    15. Re:Beware of namechanges by Trahloc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That wasn't a rebrand, it was sold off to circuit city, now some other company prob runs it. I use to work for the @#$%@shack at one of their most profitable stores in a district of ~30. Because we weren't selling the 'right' products we constantly were treated like trash, the fact that other stores were running at a loss didn't matter, they sold cell phones so they obviously knew what they were doing. That is until those stores got shutdown because some bean counter finally saw the numbers and told the sales/marketing jackoffs to stfu. The people in charge have been ruining it the last decade trying to be mini a Best Buy instead of focusing on what they actually did best, being the 7/11 of small electronics/parts, cables, and batteries, gd idiots.

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    16. Re:Beware of namechanges by lorenlal · · Score: 1

      I guess I am.

    17. Re:Beware of namechanges by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, but with a more specialized customer base you'll also have to figure that a lot of the people who actually go there will already know where the store is. The different sign on the front shouldn't be much of a problem, since they'll hopefully learn about the rebranding before it actually happens and it won't be a complete surprise to them.

      Even if someone didn't frequent a certain store, a quick Google search could probably tell them that the store had rebranded and they'd be able to find it anyway.

      Hard to say whether or not the rebranding will cause the name to suffer in this case. I'm personally glad they have more expert minds than my own making that decision. :)

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    18. Re:Beware of namechanges by residieu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With Verizon it probably helped. Anyone happy with the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX/GTE was already a customer, and wasn't going to switch just because of a name change. Changing their name gave them a chance to trick some of their unhappy former customers into trying them out again.

    19. Re:Beware of namechanges by Skater · · Score: 1

      AirTran Airways is another great example. The original AirTran was bought by the airline ValuJet which had a rather famous accident. ValuJet decided to use AirTran's name to get the blank slate effect.

      But, yeah, "The Shack" is just silly.

    20. Re:Beware of namechanges by j1ggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      They were forced to because Circuit City swallowed up all of RadioShack's assets in Canada. They were no longer allowed to use the name as they are two competing companies. I believe the official name is "The Source by Circuit City". Instead of carrying the RadioShack brand of products in their stores, you'll find mostly Nexxtech stamped all over everything now.

    21. Re:Beware of namechanges by Nursie · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that IBM is "International Business Machines" any more. I think it's just IBM.

      BP used to stand for British Petroleum, but now it's just BP. BAE Systems, likewise, used to be British Aerospace Engineering Systems, but now are just BAE.

      It's weird.

    22. Re:Beware of namechanges by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IBM makes bugger all money from "International Business Machines" these days but they wouldn't want to lose a brand everyone knows.

      Yeah unless you consider a z/90 or other massive server computer to be a "business machine" -- hmm, a computer is a machine, and these are used by international businesses for essentially the same things as their classic tabulators, collators, and accounting machines and then some, I think it fits -- in which case it's more accurate to say "IBM makes all their money from 'International Business Machines'".

      Nevertheless your point about the importance of branding stands. :)

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    23. Re:Beware of namechanges by oldhack · · Score: 1

      It's true. Microsoft became Macrosoft long time ago, but changing its name to Macrosoft wouldn't have done it any good.

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    24. Re:Beware of namechanges by billcopc · · Score: 1

      The stores were terrible long before the name change / acquisition. Radio Shack in Canada has pretty much always sucked. It's nothing like the American chain.

      Gripes:

      - Everything costs 8 times more than your average no-name electronic supply store - they even make Active look good, that's a feat!
      - They don't stock the things a real electronics hobbyist would need. They have two choice of "assorted packs" for resistors, no caps, no inductors, no log pots, ONE V-reg.
      - The things they do stock, no one ever buys, the blister packs are all yellowed from being on a peg for 10 years.
      - Yet they have two dozen alarm clock radios, a bunch of cheap chinese RC toys, white-box self-branded PC accessories, and over 9000 universal remotes
      - And their sales people are completely utterly useless. Sometimes well-meaning, but they couldn't tell a D-Cell from a buttplug.

      The Source is essentially a mall-parasitic version of the tiny "a/v accessories" row in a Future Shop / Best Buy or Wal-Mart. They exist solely to cash in on meandering suckers. Anyone with half a brain would drive or even walk across the street to the big box store and buy the same thing (or better) for half the price.

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    25. Re:Beware of namechanges by Niris · · Score: 1

      Nostalgia'd. I haven't heard the term carphone in a good 15 years or so when I was still in elementary school, heh.

    26. Re:Beware of namechanges by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      Considering what I have seen on "SyFy" which now includes ECW wrestling, I'm guessing that they are going to get around the concept of fixing their bad Sci-Fi series, by replacing them and becoming a knock-off of Spike TV, with some re-runs of popular, no longer in production sci-fi series to appeal to the slightly nerdier side of the chest beater demographic.

      None of this is a surprise, of course. Sci-Fi has always been a channel that seems to be good at shooting itself in the foot.

    27. Re:Beware of namechanges by Octorian · · Score: 1

      Which reminds me that IBM also did a rather strange product-line renaming:

      S/390 --> z-series
      AS/400 --> i-series
      RS/6000 --> p-series
      x86 crap --> x-series

    28. Re:Beware of namechanges by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      Also, LG, formerly Lucky Goldstar. When you're known for producing shit, there's only one way to go.

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    29. Re:Beware of namechanges by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      IBM is still International Business Machines. BAE changed its name when it bought out Marconi. BP is still British Petroleum; an attempt to deemphasize petroleum products in their branding led to a drop in morale and so they are back to re-emphasizing it.

    30. Re:Beware of namechanges by Octorian · · Score: 1

      Actually, the opposite of "Microsoft" would be "Astrohard" (or perhaps "Macrohard", but that has less ring to it)

      Though I'm pretty sure its just a portmanteau for "Microcomputer Software". Of course even the term "microcomputer" is really no longer relevant, since (unless you look at some obscure IBM product lines) we have massively scaled out server systems that are (software-wise) closer to microcomputers than minis or mainframes.

    31. Re:Beware of namechanges by gstep · · Score: 1

      Isn't 'micro' actually a reference to microcomputer?

    32. Re:Beware of namechanges by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      The problem is that most people equate Radio shack with "used to be useful, but is now an utter joke."

      They lowered pay and employee standard so all you get now is idiots, and they eliminated almost all of their good stuff and replaced it with crap you can get at Best Buy for less hassle. Their small parts section is a joke, but that is really only there to sucker the techie guy in the door.

      Their cellphone selection and accessories are a joke, their Stereo equipment are a joke, in fact everything there is a joke now. Radio Shack's heyday was the late 80's. They made some really stupid direction changes and they have been sliding towards irrelevant ever since.

      Radio Shack, you got Questions? We got blank stares.

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    33. Re:Beware of namechanges by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      i'm going the The Shack to buy an antenna so i can watch SyFy.

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    34. Re:Beware of namechanges by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      The wikipedia article doesn't fit with my personal experience. When I was a kid (in the US) it was called Nesquik (I loved strawberry nesquik). And the mascot was called the Nesquik bunny. This was before 1999 for me because I quit drinking it long before that (by 1999 I was an adult and have moved out). I would say it was Nesquik for me by the early to mid 1990s, possibly earlier. Perhaps my region just had it introduced as Nesquik earlier than the rest of the US?

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    35. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You aren't kidding.

      I work for FedEx Office.

      It used to be Kinko's.
      Then FedEx bought it.
      Then it became known as FedEx Kinko's. (for a few years)
      Then they rebranded it again to FedEx Office.

      Never mind that even now, years later, people still write checks to Kinko's.
      Never mind that 90% of the time that I answer the phone at work, I have to mention that we were Kinko's.

      Because, you know, rebranding... spending millions of dollars updating the name of the store... oh, that always works so well.

      And the sign on the outside of the store still says "FedEx Kinko's". It might get changed by the end of 2010.

    36. Re:Beware of namechanges by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      Really, you can't lay the fact that ECW is on there to the name change. ECW has been on that station since 2006.

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    37. Re:Beware of namechanges by evilkasper · · Score: 1

      They can change their name to whatever they want, they still don't have anything worth buying. Let's face it the store has gone down hill; all they have now are adapters, cellphones and remote control cars.

    38. Re:Beware of namechanges by badasscat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      With Verizon it probably helped. Anyone happy with the Bell Atlantic/NYNEX/GTE was already a customer, and wasn't going to switch just because of a name change. Changing their name gave them a chance to trick some of their unhappy former customers into trying them out again.

      The Verizon rebrand happened when they still had a monopoly on northeast area local call service, and that was their only real business. There wasn't any choice of switching or not. You can rebrand as many times as you want when customers have no other company to go to. (A lot of utilities rebrand pretty frequently for that reason - my gas company just rebranded themselves as "National Grid" a little while ago, even though they only serve the Northeast. But I have no other choice of where to get my gas, so who cares?) I suspect my gas company rebranded themselves the way they did for the same reason as Verizon - they did not want to continue to be pigeonholed by their name into one region of the country. (Ditto for Cingular, now AT&T, which is an apt case of "back to the future".) In those cases, the rebranding allowed a local company to go national.

      I would love to see Verizon try to rebrand themselves again now, in the middle of a major battle with Cablevision for TV and phone service, and an ongoing battle with the three other major cell phone carriers for cell phone service. It would be a disaster.

      Any company that has major competition and is not region-bound by their name had better think long and hard about rebranding itself. You have to make the determination that your current brand is actually hurting you more than the confusion caused by rebranding would. I can't see how that's the case with Radio Shack. In fact, most companies interested in re-branding would be better served by going back to their roots and seeing what made them successful in the first place, not throwing it all away and trying to start from zero. (See aforementioned AT&T - how many telegraphs will you use today?)

    39. Re:Beware of namechanges by pha7boy · · Score: 2, Funny

      you know what "the Shack" is? it's the place you go to watch "SyFy"

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    40. Re:Beware of namechanges by pha7boy · · Score: 1

      "Anonymous Coward" is slang on parts of Slashdot for making really douchey comments. :)

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    41. Re:Beware of namechanges by operagost · · Score: 1

      Circuit City is now defunct and all its holdings split up; so who owns those stores now?

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    42. Re:Beware of namechanges by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know. A lot of times I'll want SOMETHING (often those adapters you mentioned) that I need right friggen now and nowhere else but Radio Shack will carry the stuff. I had an XLR microphone connector get severed off of one of my mics about 8 hours before a huge meeting I was getting ready to host. If needed I still had some backup mics, but they weren't nearly as good. So I head down to Radio Shack, buy a $5 connector, and a few minutes later I'm back in business.

      Or when I was in college doing an electronics project. They gave us a ton of resistors, LEDs, and the like, but I must have lost one or something because when I was doing one project due the next day, I came up short a few resistors that I needed. Only place in town that carried them was Radio Shack. Went down there and bought a new pack for a dollar or two and the project went fine.

      Now I have no idea how they survive on the paltry business people seem to send their way (for me they're just there for me to spend $5 per year tops in), but I do know that it's nice to have them around, even if they're only rarely needed.

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    43. Re:Beware of namechanges by Old+Grey+Beard · · Score: 5, Funny

      I went in to a local Shack to buy a soldering iron a couple months ago. They don't have them. They do have cell phones, and boy do they love to pitch them. I have no idea who sells soldering irons any more, though I'm sure I could use Bing to google around.

      Is it proper English to use "google" intransitively?

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    44. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "G.I.Joes" (a sports and equipment store) tried to step away from its army surplus heritage by rebranding as "Joe's" ..... it died less than a year later. Obviously the reasons were complex (e.g. being confused about WHO its actual competitors were) but the name rebrand was a harbinger of doom :)

    45. Re:Beware of namechanges by badasscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Radio Shack in Canada has pretty much always sucked. It's nothing like the American chain.

      Your gripes are exactly my gripes about the American chain, so it's probably not much different. I have a RS within walking distance of my house, so I went to buy a four-pack of rechargeable AA batteries there a while ago - something that costs $9.99 at Target and pretty much anywhere else - and they wanted to charge me $21.99 for it. When I pointed out how ridiculous this price was, they looked shocked and asked me where I saw it for less. I said "everywhere" literally as I was walking out the door.

      Radio Shack's problem for the last 15 years or so has been that they don't understand their place in the world. They have delusions of being the next Best Buy, but a) their prices suck, b) their stores are too small, c) their salespeople are even bigger idiots than BB's, and d) as Circuit City proved, we don't want another Best Buy.

      I don't understand what the shame is in having a relatively small chain of stores that sells tools, supplies, wiring, antennas, etc. that we all need but don't really know where else to get. There are a lot of online stores these days that thrive selling nothing but things like LCD/plasma TV mounts and HDMI cables for reasonable prices. That could have been Radio Shack. But nobody thinks of them for that stuff anymore because they have decided their core business is instead things like poorly-made RC cars, game consoles and cell phones - all things that specialty retailers and discount chains do better and/or sell for lower prices. Meanwhile, the cables and whatnot that they *do* still have are all overpriced too, because they have decided to "gold plate" everything in an effort to make their stuff seem more "premium" than it is.

      I suspect rebranding as "The Shack" is an attempt to put them further down that road that they shouldn't be on, and going the wrong way.

    46. Re:Beware of namechanges by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well you gotta admit that the "x86 crap" brand wasn't exactly a brilliant stroke of marketing.

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    47. Re:Beware of namechanges by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "i know what you mean. i stopped drinking Nestle Quick after it was portmanteaued to NesQuick."

      I hear ya. I get the same feeling when I wonder what happened to Super Sugar Crips, Sugar Pops, and the like as a kid eating breakfast cereals.

      I often morn for Kentucky Fried Chicken...I mean, ok, many people in the day called it KFC for short, but, why rename the place and take away all references to Fried Chicken? I mean...you don't go there to order pizza or fish...you go there for fried chicken (well, most people do, I prefer Popeye's Fried chicken since I live in NOLA, hard to beat those red beans, but, I digress).

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    48. Re:Beware of namechanges by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      And what shall all of us who remember SpaceQuest smile at every time we pass their shop?

      For those that are left into the void - there was a featured shop named "Radio Shock" in one SpaceQuest episode!

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    49. Re:Beware of namechanges by Dragonslicer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Worse, choosing a name that goes from "The Shack" to "The Suck" so smoothly(and appropriately) just seems like a terrible plan...

      I think going to "The Shaft" is an easier move.

    50. Re:Beware of namechanges by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      I mean, ok, many people in the day called it KFC for short, but, why rename the place and take away all references to Fried Chicken?

      Its the "Fried" part they are worried about, when all the negative press about fried foods. They were hoping people would forget it was fried and just go there for chicken...

    51. Re:Beware of namechanges by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 1

      Good name, IF THEY SOLD BAIT!, but they don't so its a really stupid name.

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    52. Re:Beware of namechanges by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, this is the same IBM that remamed its various server lines (RS/6000 AIX UNIX, AS/400 midrange, etc. To its Letter series (iSeries, pSeries, etc.) Which I still have trouble keeping straight.

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    53. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed: I refuse to buy "Mtn Dew"

    54. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bell aka the Telecom from hell that charges a non-optional $2.80 a month fee for touch tone service:
      http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/595445

    55. Re:Beware of namechanges by Tekfactory · · Score: 1

      Well,

      It almost sounds like the same marketing folks that told Pizza Hut to take the 'Pizza' out of their name and just call it "The Hut". Something about them selling Pasta and stuff there too now.

      http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/pizza-hut-changes-its-name.aspx?GT1=33009

      So who's next "The Depot" you could never actually buy a 'Home' there anyway. Ever buy an Olive at Olive Garden, nope, there ya go "The Garden" it is.

    56. Re:Beware of namechanges by ground.zero.612 · · Score: 1

      Being that they sell mostly higher than radio technology, the name I'd like to see the most would be "Tech Shack." IMHO it fits with their original theme the way I imagine it, with Radio Shack selling mostly radios when it was a young company.

      The really sad part for me though is the thought of a company like this going out of business in the times of new international laws being conceived that are intended to criminalize reverse engineering. Without Radio Shack, Axe Man, and ACME, I wouldn't have even been able to take apart the toys/gadgets I wanted to know about, let alone modify them to do things their patent/copyright holders never thought of...

      So, again for the record my vote is for "Tech Shack!"

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    57. Re:Beware of namechanges by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      So despite the lack of "Radio" as their main business

      And the lack of people who have the foggiest notion of what a radio shack is...

      rj

    58. Re:Beware of namechanges by Niris · · Score: 1

      This one I've been struggling with. I'm addicted to Mountain Dew, and I love the stuff, but this "hip name change" bullshit just irritates me to no end. Hell, I'd probably be alright with it if they had just labeled the can Mt Dew, since at least Mt is an acceptable abbreviation.

    59. Re:Beware of namechanges by twistedsymphony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've referred to it as "The Shitty Shack" or "RatShack" for nearly a decade already... I lost complete faith in them when they started putting more emphasis in selling mobile phones than any other product in the store.... where the F else are you going to pickup that last little electrical component you need for your project instead of paying Digikey $12 to ship a 5 cent part?... though it pisses me off when there is only one clerk in the store helping some old lady decide on a cell phone while I stand at the register for 10 minutes waiting to buy a fresh roll of solder.

      I miss the college days... there was an electronics shop down the street from the school that was what you'd imagine if mouser opened a retail outlet.... it's a shame how few places like that still exist. It's an even bigger shame how not only is most of society not interested in learning about and working with electronics but actually FEAR peole who do... I miss the cold-war era sci-fi culture where it was actually cool to and respected if you got into the technical side of things. /rant

    60. Re:Beware of namechanges by Spleen · · Score: 1

      I heard a commercial on the radio a while back here in the USA that said BP stood for "Better Petroleum". Probably just a marketing spin, but I laughed.

    61. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, It's always been called "the shack" just see page 147 of the 1982 catalog

    62. Re:Beware of namechanges by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Naah. The recent change there was because they couldn't trademark "SciFi" because it was a generic term. They can trademark "SyFy" because of it's relatively unique spelling. They aren't trying to change their reputation.

    63. Re:Beware of namechanges by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      But nobody thinks of them for that stuff anymore because they have decided their core business is instead things like poorly-made RC cars, game consoles and cell phones - all things that specialty retailers and discount chains do better and/or sell for lower prices.

      One of our local "Shacks" now sells candy bars and gum. It's an official store and not an authorized distributor. Go figure.....

    64. Re:Beware of namechanges by genner · · Score: 1

      Is it proper English to use "google" intransitively?

      NO!

    65. Re:Beware of namechanges by mcrbids · · Score: 1

      In fact, most companies interested in re-branding would be better served by going back to their roots and seeing what made them successful in the first place, not throwing it all away and trying to start from zero. (See aforementioned AT&T - how many telegraphs will you use today?)

      But that's definitely *not* what Radio Shack would need to do. People just don't have a need so much for 5% 150k Ohm 1 watt resisters any more. And to underscore my point, Slashdot consists of a tech-centric crowd; how many people here know the resistor coloring codes to even know if they were looking at a 150k Ohm 1 watt resister with a 5% tolerance?

      I know I couldn't.

      So breadboards and circuit components (where Radio Shack got its name) simply doesn't apply except for the rarest cases. It's such a small niche that it's best (and probably ONLY) served anymore by the applicable niche web sites.

      No, Radio Shack *needs* to re-invent themselves. Right now their name is pretty much synonymous with being a small, Circuit City - like place with high prices and low quality gear that sorta carries stuff you can't find elsewhere, like Cat5 network connectors. And we know what happened to Circuit City.

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    66. Re:Beware of namechanges by rm999 · · Score: 1

      Radio Shack has become a stale brand, they aren't losing much from a name change. The next generation (I'd say anyone under 30) has a pretty low opinion of radios - it's what you have to listen to when you can't afford a CD player or iPod. I don't blame them for wanting to get rid of that from their name.

      I'm not a huge fan of the new name (a shack? seriously? that's the name of the dive bar down the street from me), but I think they *need* to take some gambles if they want to survive the next ten years. I'm amazed the internet hasn't destroyed them yet, actually.

    67. Re:Beware of namechanges by genner · · Score: 1

      They rebranded it from "Radio Shack" to "The Source" in Canada years and years ago. But everyone I know still refers to it as "Radio Shack". I can't even remember the name "The Source" well enough to tell someone how to find the place... I had to check online before I made this post.

      Wasn't "The Source" another name for the Devil on that old show Charmed?

    68. Re:Beware of namechanges by oldhack · · Score: 1

      Asstoohard? You perv.

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    69. Re:Beware of namechanges by Propaganda13 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, their battery prices suck. I went in for an electronic part and a 9v battery. The prices on the batteries were insane even with the discounted buy way more than you need sale they had going. I bought the part then grabbed a battery at the grocery store for less.

      At least, they don't have the Gestapo tactics of needing all your personal information to buy something that costs less than a dollar anymore.

    70. Re:Beware of namechanges by Reziac · · Score: 1

      At the time of the name change, Verizon also had a captive customer base that lacked other choices, since they inherited the protected monopoly territories of their former self, GTE -- General Telephone and Electric. If you lived in a GTE territory, you COULD NOT get phone service from a competing company, so it didn't matter WHAT they called themselves!

      Radio Shack has realworld competition; they don't have a captive audience that has no choice about where to buy stuff by any name. People have to actually remember to go to Radio Shack, rather than it being the only default option -- as was the case when Verizon grew that name.

      (Out of sheer perversity, I kept writing checks to "GTE" for years afterward. Yes, I was stuck in one of their monopoly territories from the landline era, and lordy did the service suck.)

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    71. Re:Beware of namechanges by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to snopes, it was because they didn't want to have to pay licensing fees to the commonwealth of Kentucky for using the word Kentucky.

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    72. Re:Beware of namechanges by Reziac · · Score: 1

      It wasn't just the northeast. It was anywhere GTE already had a protected monopoly. I'm in SoCal, and was cursed with GTE after I moved out to a rural area. As you say, they could have called themselves "World's Shittiest Phone Service" and I'd still have had no choice, they were IT if you wanted a landline. Which was all there was back then, for most people.

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    73. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a RS within walking distance of my house, so I went to buy a four-pack of rechargeable AA batteries there a while ago - something that costs $9.99 at Target and pretty much anywhere else - and they wanted to charge me $21.99 for it. When I pointed out how ridiculous this price was, they looked shocked and asked me where I saw it for less. I said "everywhere" literally as I was walking out the door.

      Could you tell me where you can actually get a four pack of rechargeable AA batteries for under $10.00. Nowhere out has them that cheap, not even Frys.

    74. Re:Beware of namechanges by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How many 5 cent parts do they have to sell in a day to pay that $7 an hour employee. How many cell phones do they have to sell to pay that employee. Truth is, they could probably sell 1 phone a day for an employees entire day of wages. While they would have to serve more than 1 customer every minute selling 5 cent parts. And that's just the employee. Never mind all the overhead of the store. I think a much better way of selling those little parts you need would be to have a bunch of warehouses and you order them over the internet. After which they are mailed out in the cheapest way possible. Sure you wouldn't get them very quickly, but do you have any idea how much retail space costs in this day and age. I'm surprised they carry these little electronics parts at all.

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    75. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Morbid's Post Doesn't Even Really Make Sense. (Willingly)

    76. Re:Beware of namechanges by Deosyne · · Score: 1

      Against my better judgement, I swung into Rat Shack last week to see if I could pick up a couple of mercury tilt switches since Skycraft miraculously didn't have any. I made the mistake of taking the sales drone's offer of assistance instead of providing my cursory, "no, thanks." I told the dude the I needed a couple of mercury tilt switches; his reply: "They're illegal." I wanted to stab him in the neck with a thermometer but I didn't have one handy so I just turned around without saying a word and went home to order some switches online.

    77. Re:Beware of namechanges by evilkasper · · Score: 1

      The last time I was in Radio Shack I was looking for some RJ45 connectors. They dind't have any, the store in question didn't even stock them, told me I could get them online though.

    78. Re:Beware of namechanges by Nursie · · Score: 1

      BP is "BP p.l.c" and "BP America Inc" and various other things. That's the registered name. It may still unofficially stand for British Petroleum but that's not the company name any more.

      Their slogan, which is what you're probably thinking of, is "Beyond Petroleum".

      However it looks like you're right about IBM.

    79. Re:Beware of namechanges by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      Spot on. Similarly, anyone remember Radio Rentals in the UK? They hung on to that name right up until they all but disappeared in the 1990s even though it had been many decades since they rented out radios. They were a common sight on UK high streets and were so well established that they didn't dare change their name.

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    80. Re:Beware of namechanges by wooferhound · · Score: 1

      I was thinking "The Shit" would be a more appropriate Slang Name.
      You've Got Questions, We have Blank Stares . . .

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    81. Re:Beware of namechanges by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      RJ24 connectors? I'd have tried a regular hardware store. Seriously. The doorknobs and ceiling fans sort of hardware store.

      They'd probably have them in the same aisle as the telephone jacks and GFCI outlets.

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    82. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I said "everywhere" literally as I was walking out the door.

      I'm virtually confused. Did you say literally say "everywhere" or did you say literally "everywhere" or did you literally walk out the door?

    83. Re:Beware of namechanges by guruevi · · Score: 1

      These days most Radio Shack's don't even carry those things anymore. There is a small drawer with some very generic components in most of the stores but usually they're out of whatever you need. When you ask if they have them in stock in back they stare dumbfounded at you and say something like:

      * Whad'dya say? What are you trying to resist? What is XLR?
      * Huh? The guy that knows about electronics isn't here today (or he quit a while ago).
      * Let me call corporate to see what the item number is what is it you need again?
      -after a lot of explaining-
      * Oh, you mean this, then they show you a 3.5mm jack or something completely unrelated.
      * I don't think we carry this - maybe you should try the other store across town.
      * We can always order it, it'll be here next week.

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    84. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Verizon is managing just fine because it is a monopoly phone company. The branding is truly terrible. Have you noticed their insanely stupid checkmark logo?

    85. Re:Beware of namechanges by Memroid · · Score: 1

      [...] though I'm sure I could use Bing to google around.

      yuck. Even if it sounds fine to use google in a generic sense, for the act of searching, isn't that similar to saying "I'm going to grab a Mountain Dew because I need a coke to wash down my burger and fries"? It sounds odd and conflicting.

    86. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      unfortunately i had to post anonymously... this time. but yes. it is true. i work here. they gave us awful t shirts, and we are rebranding, we are by no means changing our names, but all of our advertising will be directed at the shack, and i think its pretty much hilarious, it also coincides with some other big corporate changes, that mean some stores are switching which wireless carriers they have.

    87. Re:Beware of namechanges by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Even more bizarre is the Dreyer's/Edy's situation. On the east coast, it's called Edy's. On the west coast, it's Dreyer's. This in spite of the fact that they're the same company, with the same ice cream and same packaging (except for the name). There are a lot of companies like this. I know of one company who markets the same food product under no less than six different brand names (each differing by CITY, not even by state). Go figure.

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    88. Re:Beware of namechanges by bkaul · · Score: 1

      My local Radio Shack does sell soldering irons (and is the only place I know to get replacement tips), but you can also find soldering irons/guns at your local Lowe's or Home Depot. As with the RJ connectors above, it seems the bulk of the non-electronics parts are becoming hardware store merchandise, and we'll likely have to go to DigiKey or Mouser for the electronics. The last few times I've needed a capacitor to repair a motherboard, or something of the like, Radio Shack's selection has been essentially useless and I've had to order online anyway.

    89. Re:Beware of namechanges by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Informative

      When they started selling phones? Really? Not when they started hawking generic electronics and speakers at premium prices under the Optimus brand? Or when they tried to sell you a Tandy every time you stepped through the door?

      To be fair, electronic component sales really aren't a viable market anymore. With the price of production shrinking just as fast as the size of transistors, we've long since entered the world of disposable electronics, where it's cheaper to design and manufacture products to be replaced in their entirety than to be repairable. Surface mount technology was pretty much the death knell for that. Sure, there are exceptions, and I probably do more electronic repairs than most people, but it's still a rare event. I recognize that our hobby/habit is becoming more and more of a rarity, and on modern electronics, the only *technician* serviceable parts are basically connectors and buttons/switches. It's not like you can even get schematics for most electronics these days, so unless you know for a fact that you just broke off a SMC, and what its value was, you're probably never going to find the fault. I've even seen boards straight from the manufacturer with components broken off or leads clipped to correct design flaws, so you can't rely on sight alone.

      When it comes down to it, people would rather just get a new device than pay someone half the replacement price, and in most cases more than the market value of the old one. Desktop computers are about the only exception, but even then you're usually swapping out boards rather than performing component-level repairs. When I bent the pins on my LGA 775 socket, for example, the entire motherboard was a wash. It would have cost $25 just for the part from my wholesaler after discount, and hours of tedium to manually resolder 775 pins, IF I could even pull it off without creating a short or melting a trace. And I certainly didn't want to risk a $100 used CPU in a home-soldered socket, let alone the brand new $500 CPU I was replacing it with. Better to just run out and get a new motherboard for $100, and the peace of mind that comes with it.

    90. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always called "The Source" "The Rotting Corpse of Radio Shack", myself.

    91. Re:Beware of namechanges by eclectro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well put. But the problem is not the profit margin on the parts, the problem is that so few people buy them anymore. Electronics has changed wildly over the past 30 years with the advent of surface mount. Electronics nowadays is defined by an ipod, not by a pack of quarter watt resistors. They had to branch out into other areas, or as a chain they would have never survived. But the thing that bothers me the most is the disappearance of "repair centers." Nothing is repairable like it once was.

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    92. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not going to find anything at Rat Shack for 5 cents. Heck, the cheapest thing there is probably resistors that cost them less than a penny to buy and are repacked and sold 5 for 99 cents.

    93. Re:Beware of namechanges by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      "Market research indicates that people use their electronic devices outside the home as much as they do inside, so we've come up with a new name to tie our brand with both the "outdoors" and the "home" aspects of the consumer experience: The Outhouse"

      - RG>

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    94. Re:Beware of namechanges by RealGrouchy · · Score: 3, Informative

      And if you click on the More information about this page link at the bottom of that page, Snopes debunks that one, too.

      - RG>

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    95. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should have asked them to find a radioshack that does.
        Allthe ones in my district sell soldering irons, and if i'm out I can find someone who has.
      Don't lose all hope yet :)

    96. Re:Beware of namechanges by vistic · · Score: 1

      Whenever I travel to other countries I'm amazed to see Good Humor ice cream under a million different names, but with the same "heart brand" logo. I guess these were all local brands with name recognition that got swallowed up, but yet the company wanted to unite their brands globally somehow.

      I imagine Edy's and Dreyer's weren't always the same company.

    97. Re:Beware of namechanges by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      Many cheap thermometers use alcohol rather than mercury. I don't know about legality of mercury tilt switches, but depending on the size, a ball bearing may be used instead. But, you could have pointed to the CFL bulbs instead.

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    98. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked at a radio shack while in college and learned that they are working towards phasing out all of their circuitboards & such... you would only be able to buy them online. They want to only have TV's, RC toys, phones & other consumer electronics.

      When I learned that, I vowed never to shop at a Radio Shack ever again.

    99. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Microsoft's stuff certainly isn't small

      Their search engines are though, and perhaps it is because of constant rebranding?

    100. Re:Beware of namechanges by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Naah. The recent change there was because they couldn't trademark "SciFi" because it was a generic term. They can trademark "SyFy" because of it's relatively unique spelling. They aren't trying to change their reputation.

      And SyFy couldn't get around their trademark issue by calling themselves "The Sci-Fi Channel" either. So what is RadioShack going to do when they find that "The Shack" is too generic for a trademark somewhere?

      Now, if they were "The Hack Shack" and every product they sold came with circuit diagrams and firmware source code....

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    101. Re:Beware of namechanges by davester666 · · Score: 1

      What do you guys mean?

      Microsoft Search's marketshare is through the roof now that it's called Bing.

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    102. Re:Beware of namechanges by neurovish · · Score: 1

      That's weird.
      I stopped by radioshack yesterday since a friend of mine needed a cable that no place else seemed to carry (RCA female to spade), and found that they still had what I needed for wirewrapping a project. They don't pack the random electronic components that they used to, but they have a lot of common things (for about 10 times the going rate, but that's the convenience tax).

    103. Re:Beware of namechanges by residieu · · Score: 1

      The funny thing I keep seeing on trucks is "FedEx Express"

    104. Re:Beware of namechanges by dhaines · · Score: 1

      ...all they have now are adapters, cellphones and remote control cars.

      And iPods.

      Once in desperation I went into Radio Shack hoping to replace my forgotten MacBook Pro power adaptor. This was in a fairly small town, so I figured since they sell iPods and they (used to) sell power supplies RS was my only hope.

      When I pulled out my computer to show the confused clerk what I needed, he saw the Apple logo and exclaimed "Cool, an iPod laptop!"

    105. Re:Beware of namechanges by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      So, you're saying KFC lied? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3190/is_n8_v25/ai_10403447/

      "Craig has said in the past that the turnaround hinges on moving away from a dependency on fried chicken toward new, 'better for you" products.'"

      I'll take a news article of snopes, thanks.

    106. Re:Beware of namechanges by treeves · · Score: 1

      "they couldn't tell a D-Cell from a buttplug."

      Perhaps, in their view, there is no difference.

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    107. Re:Beware of namechanges by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Is it proper English to use "google" intransitively?

      No. These would be proper:

      "though I'm sure I could bing it."
      "though I'm sure I could use Bing to search around."

      Most of us say "google it" because Google is the only search engine to give you the correct results, right at the top. :P

    108. Re:Beware of namechanges by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      They can trademark "SyFy" because of it's relatively unique spelling.
      ...until the lawyers start going after homonyms.

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    109. Re:Beware of namechanges by rnelsonee · · Score: 1

      I certainly don't know the exact values, but IBM doesn't make anywhere near "all" their money from computers. They make more money from software than they do hardware, and possibly even more than that in consulting. The OP's point was that IBM is no longer a hardware company, which is largely true. But their name was too valuable to get rid of.

    110. Re:Beware of namechanges by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      IBM is most certainly still a hardware company. Nobody who wasn't a hardware company would continue to invest in the development of top-end fabrication plants, as even companies who are unarguably hardware companies can't justify that expense. The majority of their money comes from support contracts for that hardware, and the software installations on that hardware. Support contracts are just a smarter way to make money off of hardware than relying solely on initial sticker price, and its what IBM has doing since the beginning. So that doesn't make the name "IBM" any less appropriate today than it was then.

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    111. Re:Beware of namechanges by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      You're kidding, right? Target, Wal-Mart, etc. 4-packs of NiMH batteries shouldn't cost more than $10 or $12.

      Where do you live, Hawaii or something?

    112. Re:Beware of namechanges by vertinox · · Score: 1

      It's very dangerous to rebrand because of how much you lose vs how much you gain.

      Unless your name happened to be Packard Bell.

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    113. Re:Beware of namechanges by pyrrhonist · · Score: 1

      I went in to a local Shack to buy a soldering iron a couple months ago. They don't have them.

      It depends on the store. The one near me has them.

      I have no idea who sells soldering irons any more

      The Lowes near me also has them.

      I live near Boston, though, so if I need a soldering iron, I just go to "You Do It".

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    114. Re:Beware of namechanges by greywire · · Score: 1

      Somebody should put together a list of top stupid name changes.

      Personally, the one that's got me up in arms lately is the SciFi to SyFy change. I mean really, WTF?

      It just seems like more dumbifying of society.

      (and yes I realize that's not a proper word. At least, I don't think it is. I hope.)

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    115. Re:Beware of namechanges by RubberDogBone · · Score: 1

      On the east coast, a brand of bread is called Arnold. On the west coast, it's Oroweat. Those are but two of about 10 names for the same stuff. Same packaging, same logo, same bread. Bottled water is the same. Most of the brands are all owned by one company (DSWaters). I understand the desire to keep all these familiar regional names or whatever but the economies of scale would suggest that one brand name should be the one name to rule them all.

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    116. Re:Beware of namechanges by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      I bought 4 AA NiMH, 4 AAA NiMH, and 2 chargers at Radio Shack for $5 total. They were on clearance.

      Shop smarter. Also, don't complain to the store workers, they are not setting the prices.

    117. Re:Beware of namechanges by PapaBoojum · · Score: 1

      I get the same feeling when I wonder what happened to Super Sugar Crips

      They were wiped out in a gang war with the Raisin Bloods.

    118. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know about that but it is improper to end a sentence in a preposition ;)

    119. Re:Beware of namechanges by Ecuador · · Score: 1

      Nope, "The Shag" is much easier to go to. Actually "The Shag" would be a pretty cool name. "Welcome to the most shagadelic retail chain" "Will you shag now or later?" etc, so they should forget about that Shack nonsense and move to The Shag themselves.

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    120. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even more bizarre is the Dreyer's/Edy's situation. On the east coast, it's called Edy's. On the west coast, it's Dreyer's

      It's not bizarre -- it's to avoid confusion with another East coast ice cream brand called Breyers. Changing the name helped them avoid the legal issues that have plagued other companies such as Hershey's Ice Cream.

    121. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to snopes, it was because they didn't want to have to pay licensing fees to the commonwealth of Kentucky for using the word Kentucky.

      That's in Snopes's The Repository of Lost Legends (TROLL) section. Everything published in that section is a lie, designed to teach you how to evaluate facts, and discern reliable from unreliable sources... a lesson you would do well to learn.

    122. Re:Beware of namechanges by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least, they don't have the Gestapo tactics of needing all your personal information to buy something that costs less than a dollar anymore.

      That reminds me of years ago when a really hot chick working the register at my local Radio Shack asked, "Can I have your phone number?"

      Taken aback, I replied, "Sure, can I have yours?" That didn't go over well. I bet she hated her job.

    123. Re:Beware of namechanges by Unoti · · Score: 1

      But that's definitely *not* what Radio Shack would need to do. People just don't have a need so much for 5% 150k Ohm 1 watt resisters any more. And to underscore my point, Slashdot consists of a tech-centric crowd; how many people here know the resistor coloring codes to even know if they were looking at a 150k Ohm 1 watt resister with a 5% tolerance?

      What I loved about Radio Shack 20 years ago was that I could go in there and get little things to keep me going with electronics. For them to be able to do the same today, they'd need to carry things like microprocessors, motherboards, hard disks, ram, video cards, and a decent collection of the latest PC games. In fact, why don't they? Probably because the hardware changes too fast to be able to effectively stock at nationwide retail outlets in so many places. I'd love it if Radio Shack was like a mini Newegg with higher prices and more limited selection. That's pretty much what they were back in the early days of homebrew computers and electronics. But the thing that made them popular back then-- having the odds and ends people need for electronics-- can't happen today, because it's computers instead of electronics, and the economics and rate of change are different.

    124. Re:Beware of namechanges by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      I thought they changed it to appeal to womyn.

    125. Re:Beware of namechanges by yenne · · Score: 1

      They don't have them. They do have cell phones...

      Here's my sad Radio Shack story. I'm the one likely to buy electronic parts and remember buying crystals for my CB radio at Radio Shack back in the 80's.

      This past Christmas we wanted to get a prepaid cell phone for one of our kids, figuring that if he lost it we could replace it for $20. Heaven help me, I actually thought of Radio Shack first, after having been accosted by them for cell phone purchases every time I needed wire or components.

      There I was, a couple weeks before Christmas, walking into Radio Shack for the purpose of buying a cell phone. I asked questions; they had no answers. The clerk was utterly clueless about the pay-as-you-go phone plans, their options, and which would be best for my son.

      I'm thinking that the point got lost somewhere along the way.

    126. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, don't complain to the store workers, they are not setting the prices.

      Just trying to molest you with a cell phone.

    127. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a gay and lesbian bar in St. Joseph Missouri called "The Shaft."

    128. Re:Beware of namechanges by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bing and millions after millions of dollars in advertising.

      However, they may be padding those numbers. I recently had to track down an error in a windows 2003 server box. Sending the error by clicking the support link in the eventvwr and expecting the help and support function to list probable causes and KB articles relating to it ended up automatically redirecting me to a bing search. of course the search string it used was broken and didn't show any results.

    129. Re:Beware of namechanges by PRMan · · Score: 1

      Ironically, they appear to have been very self-aware. Goldstar products were not very good at all, but LG products are mostly great.

      I expect no such turnaround from The Shack.

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    130. Re:Beware of namechanges by Xantharus · · Score: 2, Informative

      "I'm going to grab a Mountain Dew because I need a coke to wash down my burger and fries"?

      I see you have never been to the south before.

    131. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i bought a radio shack branded soldering iron at my local radio shack a few years ago - i think it just depends on the location / expected demographic of the store. Mine is a storefront - if it was a mall shop you went to - no big surprise - they need to compete with the kiosks.

    132. Re:Beware of namechanges by davester666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      > of course the search string it used was broken and didn't show any results

      It wasn't broken...there's just no help available from Microsoft.

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    133. Re:Beware of namechanges by fernandolbastos · · Score: 1

      If they make a bad font choice, it's easy to read as "The Snack"

    134. Re:Beware of namechanges by sjames · · Score: 1

      Or The Crack. You may feel free to choose from any of the definitions of crack. I'm certain more than one fits.

    135. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just today a friend of mine told me of his intention of building some guitar effects, I told Him that unless he did it for the fun of it, what was the point, its cheaper to buy them from ebay

    136. Re:Beware of namechanges by Chabo · · Score: 1

      Ever buy an Olive at Olive Garden, nope, there ya go "The Garden" it is.

      Just make sure you accentuate the "R" sound, otherwise you'll confuse Bostonians who will think of The Gahden

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    137. Re:Beware of namechanges by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      It's been ratshack i.e. worthless to me for a decade. They finally got rid of all the electronic 'junk parts' as one store manager called it and have not looked back.

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    138. Re:Beware of namechanges by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Maybe because of the advent of surface mount, nothing is repairable. Have you ever looked inside an iPod? Everything is so tiny in there. Only machines could have enough precision to repair those things. Most devices are just too complicated. There are too many components to test if the thing just fails to start. And if you're paying $20 an hour for someone to try and fix it, you quickly get to the point where you can just replace it cheaper than you can get it fixed. About the only thing that is fixable nowadays is cars. Most other stuff one would just throw in the trash rather than pay to get it fixed.

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    139. Re:Beware of namechanges by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I didn't say it was true. All I said was, "According to snopes". Any of the explanations could be right and any of them could be wrong, depending on who you point to as a source.

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    140. Re:Beware of namechanges by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      I figured MS was no help even though they eventually were, but it redirected the help and support window to a bing search which displayed nothing either. Subsequently, I found and resolved the problem with a trusty old google search. It turned out that somehow a service started loading before it's dependencies were loaded causing a failure in the service. Changing a few registry entries cleared that up.

    141. Re:Beware of namechanges by profrs · · Score: 0

      Breyers isn't an east coast brand, it's sold on the west coast too.

    142. Re:Beware of namechanges by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      I went to Radio Shack to buy AV cables. All they had were the scam Monster Cables. Okay, that's fine to sell those, but where are the cables for the non-morons?

      Seriously, they're total morons and have totally lost any niche they might have previously had over the last decade and a half.

      They used to be actually useful to find obscure electronic parts. In small towns, the local Radio Shack was the only place you could buy resistors or DC voltage regulators or whatever. Yeah, they charged way too much for tiny things, but at least they actually sold those things if you needed them.

      Not anymore. Now it's all TVs and cell phone accessories, in strangely empty stores. Seriously, what the hell is going on with their layouts? They manage to piss me off even more with that...it's one thing for stores not to carry stuff I need to buy, but at this point they're just giant empty spaces with cell phone kiosks. Hey, how about you take some of that empty space and sell, you know, some stuff I'd like to buy? Or even stuff I wouldn't...at least you'd be making the effort.

      Circuit City's already failed for the same reason: They're not going to be able to compete with WalMart in crappy consumer electronics, and it is totally idiotic to try.

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    143. Re:Beware of namechanges by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      It would be Kilohard.

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    144. Re:Beware of namechanges by m6ack · · Score: 1

      Ever hear of Fry's? They seem to be doing just fine with RadioShack's previous business model. The difference with the former is Quality, and big-box-like selection.

    145. Re:Beware of namechanges by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      replaced it with crap you can get at Best Buy for less hassle

      Hell, even that might have worked. Small towns don't have Best Buy.

      Where it blows up in their face is that they're full of crap you can now get at Walmart for less hassle. (Except their cellphone stuff, which you can get at cell phone store and kiosks, which small towns are just now starting to get.)

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    146. Re:Beware of namechanges by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      as Circuit City proved, we don't want another Best Buy

      We don't even want the first Best Buy, which is only staying alive because they've been scamming people with extended warranties and ripping people off in other ways for a decade.

      Meanwhile, the cables and whatnot that they *do* still have are all overpriced too, because they have decided to "gold plate" everything in an effort to make their stuff seem more "premium" than it is.

      No shit. I went to Radio Shack to buy AV cables. They only had Monster Cables. Um, right. Goodbye, I'll go head over to WalMart. (I try not to shop at WalMart on general principles, but I'm not supporting scammer Monster Cables.)

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    147. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they still sell soldering irons i work there and we have a sections just for soldering and soldering equipment. and yes unfortunetly you will hear us pitching about cell phones more than we will about a transistor or a little audio jack only because selling the cell phones is the only place we make our money and for use radioshack employees trying to make a living getting that cell phone sale is everything to us. ...and one correction it is now OFFICIALLY "THE SHACK!"

    148. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went into one about a decade ago to get a shortwave radio. I thought I might pay $10-20 as a premium there, but it was one place I was sure would have them. No...not at *Radio* Shack. The guy suggested I try a Service Merchandise store (I think they all folded a year or two after this).

      Shortly after that was my first order from that place that always advertised on Art Bell. I have gotten fuses at RS since then, they still have a small assortment of fuses (and maybe resistors, I didn't check) in a chest-of-drawers display in a corner of the shop. If they'd held onto that kind of stuff for a little longer, they might have made a nice deal to carry Make magazines and a nice assortment of breadboards, solder, ICs, and all that other stuff they used to sell.

    149. Re:Beware of namechanges by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Radio shack carries that crap because people who go there for that stuff might go to them for something else. Perhaps they will decide they need a big stack of overpriced shitty batteries, or a radio controlled car for their nephew's birthday. You might also note that those components are marked up about 900% over their piece price, so they don't take a loss for just talking to you. Unfortunately, they are mostly not carrying that stuff, few bother to stock their bins if they even have them any more... and the bins are all most stores have for components and even most connectors any more anyway. When they get rid of that stuff, there will be no reason for them to exist any more.

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    150. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like Pizza Hut re-branding to "The Hut" -- stupid.

    151. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to snopes, it was because they didn't want to have to pay licensing fees to the commonwealth of Kentucky for using the word Kentucky.

      Not true - That's actually from one of Snopes' gotcha pages - a false entry to teach people to trust no source on the net entirely, not even a site given entirely to debunking net myths and legends. Read here http://www.snopes.com/lost/false.asp

    152. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More likely some executives needed to justify their existence.

    153. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cell phone sale pays more commission than the roll of solder. More commission=bigger paycheck. Sales folks don't care about profit margin since they don't get paid on that - they get paid on dollar amounts (cell phones pay quite well since they get a kick back from the carrier for new signups). The clerk has bills to pay just like you. I hope this clarifies the reason you had to wait ten minutes to buy solder (since you will probably find yourself in that situation again).

    154. Re:Beware of namechanges by blockhouse · · Score: 1

      how many people here know the resistor coloring codes to even know if they were looking at a 150k Ohm 1 watt resister with a 5% tolerance?

      I remember the mnemonic for it. Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly. Black=0, Brown=1, Red=2, Orange=3, etc.

      Learned it from my dad, a cold warrior who spent his Air Force career in a ballistic missile silo and had to know basic electronics in case something went wrong.

    155. Re:Beware of namechanges by Xyrus · · Score: 1

      Come down to Radio Shack for all your electronic needs, including cellphones.

      Well, most of your electronics. And cell phones.

      Some...some of your electronic needs. And cellphones.

        Ok, ok just cellphones. Buy the cellphone. You WILL buy the cellphone. No I'm not a Jedi, but you'll buy this fucking phone if I have to shove it up your ass! Wait!...I'm...I'm sorry. It's just that...I haven't sold a cellphone in weeks and I get paid on commission...and I got a wife and two kids to feed you know? It's...it's really hard *sniff* working here. You know, with the cellphones. Just the cellphones day in and day out. I used to be somebody. I have an electrical engineering degree and....well this was the only job available... and...

      Wait where are you going? What do you mean? Of course I can have a wife and two kids! Just because I have an electrical...yes I do read slashdot what does..? Hey! Are you going to buy this phone or what? Wait!!!

      Come down to Radio Shack, where high school know-it-alls and engineering washouts will push overpriced cellphones at you until you shove the phone so far up their asses they need an army of gerbils with mining equipment to retrieve it.

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    156. Re:Beware of namechanges by dbcad7 · · Score: 1

      Radio Shack was at one time a Compaq dealer.. I like them for the odd cable, but pretty much everything else seems overpriced.. The other thing that always bothered me was their insistence at putting your name and phone number in their system.. I mean a $3 cable transaction becomes a big rigamarole if you can't remember the fake name and phone number you gave em last time.

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    157. Re:Beware of namechanges by cosm · · Score: 0

      I just went to http://www.kfc.com/ and jesus lmaonaise rotfsauce, I have never seen people dance so enthusiastically over chicken. Holy damn check out the marketing shenanigans these tools were payed dto sock-puppet. Sorry for the tangent, but its worth a good lawl.

      The token black guy is the killer.

      BTW he makes the same facial expressions as Samwell. Homophobic be advised. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU&feature=fvw

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    158. Re:Beware of namechanges by f0dder · · Score: 1

      Gatorade to G is pretty retarded. Pepsi, Mt Dew, Gatorade they're all part of PepsiCo which I guess has a new CEO. The Pepsi youth commercial where they try to tie all of the accomplishment of the past century to the brand is pretty retarded. It's so bad I am forcing myself to drink Coke.

    159. Re:Beware of namechanges by dingram17 · · Score: 1

      Your gas company probably changed its name because it was bought out by National Grid (http://www.nationalgridus.com/) who started off life as the operator of the electricity transmission network in England and Wales. The HV transmission system in the UK, and in NZ, is termed 'the national grid'. Privatisation took place in the UK and National Grid plc expanded its operations into gas as well as overseas investments in the US and Australia. Your local gas company got swallowed up, but I agree that the name 'National' does imply more coverage than a couple of states. Acquisitions are also a reason to change names.

    160. Re:Beware of namechanges by wallsg · · Score: 1

      where the F else are you going to pickup that last little electrical component you need for your project instead of paying Digikey $12 to ship a 5 cent part?

      Fry's Electronics. You can even buy strips of surface mount components.

    161. Re:Beware of namechanges by bwcbwc · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's the Love Shack?

      Don't forget your jukebox money.

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    162. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked for radioshack and I can tell you, there is so much infighting and internal politics, and cut-throat sales-related crap it isnt funny.

      I am amazed it's still around. Though the manager of the store I used to work for, did the smart thing and heeded my advice, that do not rely on just cell phones, offer laptops and other things like that, as they need to put themselves on the playing field that their competitors are killing them on without actually playing it. They have one advantage: being small. They have all their products right there. cram packed, but still, you dont have to wander for hours through a huge megamart like best buy or fry's and get bothered by someone who basically says "I DONT WORK ON COMMISSION. I'M WILLINGLY ANNOYING THE FUCK OUT OF YOU BECAUSE I WILL GET FIRED OTHERWISE BECAUSE I'M WHIPPED BY MY BOSS." Radioshack, while they do have sales reps, some annoying, are instructed to only intervene if the customer looks like they're lost or very interested in a certain product. The key is to greet them and wait, and while you're ringing them up, chat with them and get into conversation with them, and they'll notice the cameras and ipods at the registers. Bets buy doesnt have cameras and ipods at their registers. ;)

      TL;DR: They're still around probably due to lower operating costs. Nationwide we had 700 sales people when I worked there. 2 people were the minimum for a day, 4-5 at the most, including the manager. This is per store, and on a slow day, a store can make $2-$3k. on a good day, $10k-$17k. Smaller store, sample selections of products (and putting anything else on their website that cannot be stocked)
      and making decent profits for each small store (the largest radioshack I've been in would take up one department of best buy) is why they're going to be around.

      However, if they pull this shit, they're going to be gone quickly. "The Shack" sounds pretentious and lame, where 'Radioshack" is a mindshare that has been around forever.

      This is almost as stupid as scifi rebranding to SyFy. Just because they wanted a name they could brand and to be "edgy" all while sounding like it's short for syphilis.

    163. Re:Beware of namechanges by frenchbedroom · · Score: 1

      How about "Jump the Shack" ?

    164. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never gone out of an electronics store spending 5c. The least I have paid is around $5, even then it's because I went back a day after because I forgot a handful of parts. So here's a question for you. Do you make more money by selling a cellphone a day, or by selling the 50 odd components some of which can be in excess of $50 ea to build a small hobby amplifier? In each case you'll likely find this is just one customer worth of effort.

    165. Re:Beware of namechanges by glarbl_blarbl · · Score: 1

      Or you could go to Home Depot, I was surprised to find they have quite reasonable prices on a bunch of cat5 stuff.

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    166. Re:Beware of namechanges by NavyWings · · Score: 1

      I agree. A name change is very risky. Tells me they've lost their real sense of who they are and who their market is. "The Shack." WTF? People are most likely just going to say Radio Shack anyway. After 30 years MAYBE they might forget what Radio Shack was. The problem isn't their name but they don't market to any particular segment. Their stuff is overpriced and can be found in many other places cheaper. The ONLY reason I go to Radio Shack is the same reason I went there 30 years ago (hell....even worked there) and that's for electronic repair parts that you just can't find anywhere else except online. That's who their market is. It was 80 years ago and they've lost sight of it. As soon as you try to be just like everyone else and lose the discriminator, unless you do it BETTER than everyone else (they don't), then you're done. This is the first step towards selling the company to someone like Electronic Arts....

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    167. Re:Beware of namechanges by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      All well and good if you live in one of the 30 cities where they actually exist (50% of which are in California and 25% in Texas)

    168. Re:Beware of namechanges by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I remember the mnemonic for it. Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly. Black=0, Brown=1, Red=2, Orange=3, etc.

      Learned it from my dad, a cold warrior who spent his Air Force career in a ballistic missile silo and had to know basic electronics in case something went wrong.

      I learned the less-PC but more helpful version that replaced "bad" with "black." Came in damn handy, too. With "Bad" there's always that moment of "why the hell do there have to be three 'B' colors and which comes first?"

    169. Re:Beware of namechanges by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      My girlfriend is from Indiana and she and hers do, in fact, use "coke" in that context, where someone else might use "soda" or "pop."

    170. Re:Beware of namechanges by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I went to buy a four-pack of rechargeable AA batteries there a while ago - something that costs $9.99 at Target and pretty much anywhere else - and they wanted to charge me $21.99 for it.

      Could you tell me where you can actually get a four pack of rechargeable AA batteries for under $10.00.

      *facepalm*

      Reading comprehension fail.

    171. Re:Beware of namechanges by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Just trying to molest you with a cell phone.

      If anything ever begged for a rule 34 citation, it's that.

    172. Re:Beware of namechanges by Larryish · · Score: 1

      Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

      10 We will get them from Hong Kong.

      20 They will take 3 weeks to arrive, and last 2 or 3 months before they melt into puddles of injection-molded goo.

      30 We will then get replacements from Hong Kong.

      40 GOTO 20

    173. Re:Beware of namechanges by Larryish · · Score: 1

      I have a good friend who is in his 50s and is a HAM and a huge electronics buff.

      He gets most of his parts from old circuit boards.

      Occasionally he gets a specialized part off eBay.

      Seems like it would be sort of peaceful, sitting around listening to talk radio and desoldering/sorting things.

    174. Re:Beware of namechanges by thogard · · Score: 1

      Radio shack has been selling components only to look like a "high tech" store for more than 25+ years. They don't care what is in the blister packs in the back since its just a marketing prop. This appears to have been going on since the days that the transistor killed the vacuum tube yet they would have a (often non-functional) tube tester in a prominent position in the store. It gave their average customer a warn fuzzy feeling that they knew what they were doing or else they wouldn't have that hagh tech stuff in the shop right?

    175. Re:Beware of namechanges by thogard · · Score: 1

      Are you the type of person who tunes into MTV for music?

    176. Re:Beware of namechanges by Old+Grey+Beard · · Score: 1

      unfortunetly[sic] you will hear us pitching about cell phones more than we will about a transistor

      Most of the /. community understand why it works that way. What THE SHACK apparently fails to understand is that without those transistors you're not gonna get any customer traffic to pitch phones to. In fact, I just shorted RSH at 16 even, and also ended a sentence with a preposition.

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    177. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Verizon" came about because of the merger between Bell Atlantic and NYNEX. It wasn't a rename for renaming's sake.

    178. Re:Beware of namechanges by greywire · · Score: 1

      You would leave out the first the, because of course saying "the" twice wont sound right. Furthermore you'd probably emphasize the pronounciation to indicate that "The" was part of the name. You'd write it like this:

      Lets go to "The Shack".

      The quotes around the name give you an indication of the emphasis when spoken. It also implies that you should use the universal hand sign for quotes (using two fingers on each hand in the air) while rolling your eyes to indicate how rediculous it is they've changed the name.

      English is an interesting language..

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    179. Re:Beware of namechanges by Zarf_is_with_you · · Score: 1

      Wasn't "The Source" another name for the Devil on that old show Charmed?

      Yes it was.

    180. Re:Beware of namechanges by Deosyne · · Score: 1

      I didn't want to learn him, just stab him with a relevant device. :) As for ball-and-can switches, those are what I replaced with the mercury tilt switches because ball-and-can switches are shit.

    181. Re:Beware of namechanges by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      If Edy's/Dreyer's confuses you, you really don't wanna learn about Big Boy.

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    182. Re:Beware of namechanges by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but I lost you at Post. Before that it made perfect sense.

    183. Re:Beware of namechanges by joeljkp · · Score: 1

      Car parts stores have them. I bought mine from AutoZone.

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  2. Surveillance by Baldrson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well since they aren't going to sell real electronics anymore, maybe they'll stop reporting who is buying what electronics components to the government. Or am I thinking of the 80s?

    1. Re:Surveillance by Kamokazi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My local 'Shack' hasn't sold real electronics for years now. I've gone there 4 times over the past two years. Once they had something that kinda worked. The other two times I eneded up finding it at Wal-Mart. I'm really not sure why I bother, except that they are in the same minimall as Wal-Mart.

      This line made me chuckle:

      "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

      Mine doesn't carry soldering irons, and they might have a place on the shelf for the adapters, but I'd be shocked if they have any stock. It's really quite sad. They wonder why they are going out of business...it's because they've changed their competition from Ace Hardware to Best Buy. And competing with Best Buy is always a good idea, isn't that right Circuit City and CompUSA?

      A year from now, I predict 'The Shack' will be liquidating assets under Chapter 11. Anyone wanna take that bet? It would be smarter than buying Radio Shack stock.

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    2. Re:Surveillance by thelexx · · Score: 1

      Could you please elaborate on this?

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    3. Re:Surveillance by nomadic · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm really not sure why I bother, except that they are in the same minimall as Wal-Mart.

      If you have to frequent minimalls that have Wal-Marts and Radio Shacks you need to move to someplace less soul-destroying.

    4. Re:Surveillance by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Could you please elaborate on this?

      Back in the handwritten receipt era, they used to "demand" names and addresses for all purchases to add you to the catalog list.

      I had relatives employed there, and address collection was a typical MBA tracking metric complete with graphs and goals and standards, you could be fired for not bothering, there was a minimum quota for data gathering, etc. If I recall around a quarter century ago you were expected to get the address at least 60% of the time. During christmas rush it was assumed you'd not bother, on the other hand, during the slowest football sunday it was assumed you'd gather all info since you have nothing better to do.

      Crazy people usually had the intersection of two beliefs :

      1) That anyone cares that you personally bought a headphone-RCA adapter cable.

      2) That no one can tell a lie to a store clerk, or just plain ole make stuff up (Yes sir, I do in fact live at 1600 penn ave in DC). They never, ever, asked for picture ID.

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    5. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could you please elaborate on this?

      No. You're probably one of them.

      Stupid noob government spook.

    6. Re:Surveillance by Vu1turEMaN · · Score: 1

      I don't wanna take That Bet, but I will rename it to "The Bet-inski"

    7. Re:Surveillance by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Informative

      A year from now, I predict 'The Shack' will be liquidating assets under Chapter 11. Anyone wanna take that bet? It would be smarter than buying Radio Shack stock.

      Bad prediction. Against all odds and logic, the company is reasonably profitable.

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    8. Re:Surveillance by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      competing with Best Buy is always a good idea, isn't that right Circuit City and CompUSA?

      Actually Tandy/Radio Shack was one of the first casualties or doesn't anyone here remember Incredible Universe?

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    9. Re:Surveillance by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah because visiting the minimall that has JCPenney and Woolworth's is just sooooo much better.

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    10. Re:Surveillance by Volante3192 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A very unusual project at work required me to make a mono audio jack to RJ11 cable.

      My first thought was 'Radio Shack.' I'm digging through the drawers of connectors and the salesman came over and asked if I needed any help. (I was the only one in the store, he was probably bored.) I explained the project and got a blank stare.

      I eventually found bits that worked for my purposes (1/4" mono jack, screw down...no soldering iron at work, not that I'd want to risk it in the first place, I'm not that coordinated... and a 1/4" to 1/8" mono jack converter. Incidentally the converter was 3x as much...go fig.) Paid and left.

      I couldn't help but think if this was 10, 15 years ago not only would I not have gotten a blank stare, if it was that slow they might have offered to even make it while i was there.

    11. Re:Surveillance by Baldrson · · Score: 1

      It's sort of like the deal the Feds have with chemical supply companies: Report anything that individuals buy that might be used to engage in illegal activity.

    12. Re:Surveillance by Ohio+Calvinist · · Score: 1

      I've known some people that work at RS, and they all have refered to it as "The Shack." I think it is probably just the internal corprate culture leaking out. In addition, it is kind of a hail mary to rebrand, you might get customers coming back to see what "changed." Furtinture stores do this all the time. They'll have "going out of business" sales and then reopen with a new name, though it is the same owners. The goal is to get passer-bys to see if anything changed. Unfortunately, if you don't really "change" what wasn't working in the past the traffic you do get isn't going to turn into customers very easily.

      We have one right across the street from Wal-Mart. I asked they why they did that and if it was business suicide, which the clerk in a surprising moment of candor, said that everything in the store is about $1 more expensive than wal-mart, but due to their smaller size, they get customers willing to pay the extra dollar to get in-and-out fast or to walk to the counter and say "I need one of 'these' or something that fits in this $hole on this $device go get me one." In particular if you're looking for something esoteric, its easier to go there and have them say "we don't have that" than search high and low at the bigger store, particularly if you're not sure what you're looking for.

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    13. Re:Surveillance by Weedhopper · · Score: 1

      Unusual project? How about a simple project?

      I went in the other day to buy a breadboard for a very simple project. I went in, got confused because there wasn't a components section. So I asked the kid working there if they had any breadboards. Blank stare. Had NO clue what I was talking about. I ended up at Frys, which is the only place in town for this kind of thing anymore.

    14. Re:Surveillance by Trahloc · · Score: 1

      Agreed 100%. Best Buy is better at it than any other brick n morter store out there. Walmarts their only real competition but then they compete with everyone. :-)

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    15. Re:Surveillance by Missing_dc · · Score: 1

      While it may seem conspiracy theorist-ish, they really were asked to report major purchases or specific combinations, (just why do you need to send a coded RF pulse 2 miles?) Just like you will likely get into trouble if you try to buy all the parts for a potato cannon at a single hardware store, or certain combinations of chemicals(less likely). Just a few years ago, my brother-in-law was laughing about a hardware store he started at training the employees to report certain purchases to a manager for them to review.

      While it does not happen very often, it does happen, so pay in cash, and avoid large quantities of nitrogen fertilizer.

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    16. Re:Surveillance by Ephemeriis · · Score: 5, Informative

      A very unusual project at work required me to make a mono audio jack to RJ11 cable.

      My first thought was 'Radio Shack.' I'm digging through the drawers of connectors and the salesman came over and asked if I needed any help. (I was the only one in the store, he was probably bored.) I explained the project and got a blank stare.

      I wanted to hook up my laptop's S-Video to my TV's RCA video.

      I know such cables and adapters exist, I've used them before and seen them online for just a few dollars. But I didn't have any handy, and didn't want to wait for something to ship. I figured Radio Shack would have what I needed.

      My wife and I were the only customers there, so the sales people kept hovering around. I shoo'ed them away a couple times, but I was having a genuinely difficult time locating the part. Eventually I got tired of them asking to help me and I told them what I was looking for.

      One of them gave me a blank look, the other one looked amused. He then carefully explained that there was no such simple adapter and that I'd have to purchase some kind of RF converter box. He showed me a device with inputs for everything under the sun... S-Video, RCA, component... And outputs in RCA and coax. The box cost around $100.

      I noticed right next to this RF converter box an S-Video to RCA cable. Exactly what I'd been looking for. Except that it was about 10 feet long and gold plated. The cable itself was $30 or so.

      I didn't buy either item at Radio Shack. I went to WalMart instead. Found a little adapter for $2 and a 5 foot cable for $7 or so. Spent about $10 total and it works great.

      That was the last time I went to Radio Shack.

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    17. Re:Surveillance by AZScotsman · · Score: 1

      Correct on all counts....

      I used to manage a RS back in the 90's (when we had to hit metrics for name gathering) and the main reasons for the name was 1) to gather addresses for the direct mail/catalog campaigns and 2) to personalize the receipts for TSP (the internal Service Plan. Additional benefits were return tracking, etc.

      Once they stopped the Direct Mail (gee, I miss those flyers...), the company cancelled the name collection.

      I agree the company has lost a lot of their "charm" as THE place to go for electronic accessories (wires, adaptors, etc) and become "just another electronics store" amongst a dwindling sea of retailers.

      Anyone else know if they still require employees to pass Specialty Certification tests? Managers were required to pass all of them (I seem to recall that there were like 6 or 8 of them...).

    18. Re:Surveillance by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      The local small RadioShack by me has some electronic stuff. Probably nothing major like they used to but some. Our of 4 short aisles, 1 appears to be devoted to electronic parts. Fuses, wire tools, wire, adapters, alligator clips, non-A/V wire ends/adapters, etc.

      However for anything major you'd probably have to go to an Electricians store. There's one a couple of towns over from me that has just about anything a working Electrician would need.

    19. Re:Surveillance by suso · · Score: 1

      What are you talking about they don't sell real electronics anymore? My local radio shack salesman says that if they don't sell it, they don't make it.

    20. Re:Surveillance by trjonescp · · Score: 1

      ... They wonder why they are going out of business ...

      Acutally they are doing quite well.

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    21. Re:Surveillance by billcopc · · Score: 1

      So is phishing.

      They both prey on synaptically-deficient suckers.

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    22. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cell phones.

      Minorities tend to buy cellphones at RadioShack. I have no idea why.

    23. Re:Surveillance by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Mine doesn't carry soldering irons, and they might have a place on the shelf for the adapters, but I'd be shocked if they have any stock.

      Yeah, I went to a Radio Shack recently looking for a PS2 (as in Mini-DIN) gender changer. I figured it was a long shot, since PS2 connections aren't being used very often anymore, but Radio Shack was the only place I could think might carry something like that.

      I guess I hadn't been to one in a while, because the store was nothing like what I remembered. It was more like a "Best Buy Lite". It was mostly cell phones and cell phone accessories, with a small selection of computer hardware and AV cables. There were a couple different models of keyboards and mice to choose from, HDMI cables in only a single length and only from a single vendor. There weren't really any electronic components, cable ends, or adapters being sold. I think they had some HDMIDVI adapters, some audio adapters (1/8"1/4"), and adapters for the cell phone chargers, and that was pretty much all they had in the way of adapters.

      It's not too big of a deal for me since, as I've said, I haven't been in one in a while and get most of my stuff from the Internet. But it made me sad.

    24. Re:Surveillance by DerekLyons · · Score: 0, Troll

      Against all odds and logic, the company is reasonably profitable.

      Shame on them - how dare they offend the geeks (who mostly type on keyboards nowadays and imagine that makes them equal to the hardware hackers of yore) by not going out of business? How dare they cater to the exact same mass market that's been their bread and butter for half a century and profit thereby rather than being what they geeks imagine they should be and vanishing into the mists of time?
       
      Seriously Slashdot, get over yourselves. Radio Shack has been primarily a retailer of low end consumer grade electronics since the 1960's. There's no reason at all to assume they shouldn't be profitable and continue to prosper - that market hasn't vanished and is unlikely in the extreme to ever diminish.

    25. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're free to short the stock, or buy a put. There are many people willing to take the other side of that bet.

    26. Re:Surveillance by Octorian · · Score: 0, Redundant

      And not even the CEO can figure out how!

    27. Re:Surveillance by Amiga+Trombone · · Score: 1

      I had the same experience when I went into one to buy a multimeter last week. And unfortunately we don't have a Fry's in my area.

    28. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I laughed at that part too!

      Radio Shack was already dead by 1990, when they turned their back on their core market. They used to be the place for electronics geeks. Long ago (still in the '90s) I went into one asking for some basic computer component (think it was an ethernet cable). They looked at me like I was out of my mind. I dropped the word 'Tandy'; the clerks didn't even know the meaning of that!

      Idiocracy tag well applied.

    29. Re:Surveillance by Fishstick · · Score: 2, Funny

      exactly

      I did something similar, was looking to make a cable for my TiVo to connect serial to DB25 on the back of my router box so I could dial out over ppp instead of phone (was getting rid of home phone service).

      I knew what I needed, a DB25 male kit and a 1/4" stereo jack. I went o Radio Shack and was looking at the parts on the wall when the kid came up and asked if I needed help.

      "Yes, I need a DB25 connector kit and a 1/4" stereo jack"

      "What for?"

      I took a deep breath. I wasn't really looking for help on my part selection, just trying to find what should have been $5 in parts on a hook on the wall, really.

      But I couldn't help myself.

      "I'm making a cable for my TiVo"

      "Why? TiVo should have come with all the cables"

      "Yes, but I am building a serial cable to connect from the TiVo to a PC"

      "Why?"

      "To dial up over PPP"

      *blank stare*

      "so, I just need these parts to make a cable, do you have them?"

      "Well, the cables are over on this wall..."

      felt like I was talking to the Secretary of the Interior

      "but, Brawndo has what plants crave"

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    30. Re:Surveillance by billcopc · · Score: 1

      They still do this, AFAIK. It's always for the "catalog list", or in one rather entertaining case it was "a 50 dollar draw". Sometimes they'll give the customer tons of grief until you give out the info.

      As a fun-loving asshole, when I have the time to burn, I take a few minutes to tell the manager exactly why and how much I despise the practice. In the one incident where they lied about a random cash drawing, I insisted to see the contest documentation specifying the closing date and eligibility requirements (as per law here in Canada, probably similar in the states). It took about 10 minutes until the manager finally admitted "there is no draw, HQ wants your info for the database".

      Another time, the cashier refused to let me pay and leave until I gave him my vitals. Cue another 10-minute debate, including a phone call to the regional manager. They still wouldn't let me buy the damned thing (some TV gadget that was on sale). I wound up sending the consumer protection hounds after them, which I believe is somewhat unique to Quebec as they are a provincial org like a super-BBB with legal powers, which fined the store pretty heavily and sure enough, they stopped asking for PII shortly thereafter. But that's just the one store...

      Back to the topic, I'm rather glad they're renaming to "The Shack". That just makes them even easier to forget. I'm eager to see them fall into bankruptcy, because that means their dozens of locations will be replaced with something else... oooh maybe a Taco hut !

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    31. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the average IQ of a radios shack employee, Counting from CEO on down is 45.

      It seems that the executive staff are bringing the average down.

    32. Re:Surveillance by jcouvret · · Score: 1

      Marketplace did a report on them last week, discussing how RadioShack has been reporting good numbers in an environment where electronics retails are biting it. Marketplace suggested it was RadioShack's brand recognition, consistent nation-wide presence, and the company being pro-active to dump locations that are not remaining profitable that has led to good results. Even with those pros, I was still rather surprised to hear that RadioShack was doing well. Personally, I would chalk their current success up to selling off inventory like crazy and not replacing it - and that can't last forever. Have you been in a one recently? There's nothing in there except a few shelves with nothing on them. As for rebranding, I think switching to the "The Shack" is ridiculously stupid. Do they really think they'll be able to sell more product at higher prices under a new, less-recognized name?

    33. Re:Surveillance by istartedi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Anyone wanna take that bet?

      Yes. They're called traders. Ticker symbol RSH. You could short the stock, but that doesn't seem like such a bright idea since they have a PE of less than 10 and are even paying a modest dividend. They seem to have done a smart job over the years of changing with the times-- selling the infamous "trash 80" back in my youth, always selling consumer and hobby electronics, and now selling cel phones.

      FWIW, I think the name change is a dumb idea though. It sounds like it was pitched by the same consultant that wants to rebrand Pizza Hut to "The Hut". Every few years it seems like there's a re-naming fad. 10 years ago it was the neologism fad that gave us "Verizon", "Altria", and another one that use to be Anderson Consultants. I can still remember Anderson Consultants, but for the life of me I can't remember what they call themselves now.

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    34. Re:Surveillance by Kamokazi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I live in a town of 10k people. That's the only place to go. It has a Gamestop, UPS Store, and some crappy clothing store. It might technically be called a strip mall, whatever. Anything bigger is an hour drive away, and I usually just order from the internet at that point.

      And no, I don't live in Montana or Wyoming or something. This is actually Ohio.

      Other than having no local stores with anything decent, it's pretty nice for geeks like me who'd rather spend their weekends indoors playing PC games. Quiet, low cost of living, I've got a good job, and the local telco has fiber run to my house that's fast and reliable, and their service is great (it doesn't hurt that the operations manager is my dad's weekend drinking buddy). With all the Comcast and Time Warner horror stories, I'm afraid to move anyplace where I can't say I love my ISP. (TWC is around here, but in the parts where the local telco has their fiber with IPTV, Time Warner marketshare is 20% or less...prople drop them like a bad habit as soon as they can.)

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    35. Re:Surveillance by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Sad thing is, there's not anything to take the place of the old Radio Shack. Last time I went to a Radio Shack, I had a part number in hand (276-2813, a 7432 IC), they couldn't even order the part. I called around to every electronics shop in town, not one had it, nor did they know anyone who would. I don't live in a small town either. What the hell happened to electronics, don't people solder anymore?

      Actually, that was the 2nd to last time I went to Radio Shack. The last time I went to Radio Shack, I needed an SD card. I walked in, and both employees out front were yelling at their respective customers. I verified that their SD cards were ridiculously overpriced, and got the hell out of there as fast as I could.

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    36. Re:Surveillance by Nocturrne · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used to be an exec at RadioShack, but left when they started to go into a downward spiral. Don't be fooled by misleading financial reports. The "profit" they claim was achieved through cost cutting. If you look at the details, you will see their revenue and sales have been dropping continuously for the last 8 years. They can't survive on cost cutting forever...

    37. Re:Surveillance by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "I had the same experience when I went into one to buy a multimeter last week. And unfortunately we don't have a Fry's in my area."

      I keep hearing about this Fry's place.

      I wonder why they don't go nation-wide...open up more stores in more cities in more states?

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    38. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      been there done that . I used to work there ... wow almost 20 years ago ... and that was standard MO. For the bozos that would spend 5k on a TV from some local retailer who had no clue how to hook up the stuff (nor did their salesperson of course) we would then proceed to fleece them as hard as we could since that $2 cable did nothing for our commission like the 5k tv did.

    39. Re:Surveillance by djfake · · Score: 0, Redundant

      The Onion had a great take on there profitability: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/even_ceo_cant_figure_out_how

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    40. Re:Surveillance by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      Well since they aren't going to sell real electronics anymore, maybe they'll stop reporting who is buying what electronics components to the government.

      The government was particularly interested in compiling a database of those citizens who were so gullible and/or desperate that they would pay $1.79 for a pair of 1/4-Watt resistors. Such behavior a real danger sign.

    41. Re:Surveillance by moosesocks · · Score: 2, Informative

      another one that use to be Anderson Consultants. I can still remember Anderson Consultants, but for the life of me I can't remember what they call themselves now.

      Anderson Consultants changed its name to Accenture, and was extremely lucky to do so, given the Enron scandal that destroyed its sister company, Arthur Anderson.

      Even though the two companies hadn't been directly related since the 1980s, the name would have been a huge taint on their brand.

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    42. Re:Surveillance by wilsoniya · · Score: 1

      Chapter 11 is government sanctioned reorganization.
      Chapter 7 is liquidation of an insolvent company's assets.
      [/pedantic]

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    43. Re:Surveillance by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I saw a clip on TV lastnight where Jay Leno was out on the street talking to people. He asked a reasonably cute woman, who appeared to be in her twenties, if she could tell him who lived at 1600 Penn Ave in DC. She responded that she was sorry but couldn't think of who that might be. He then asked if she knew who lived in a pineapple under the sea, too which she excitedly replied Sponge Bob Square Pants.

      Not that I'm deriding SBSP but honestly that's a little sad.

    44. Re:Surveillance by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      lets see you would have needed a 279 series phone cable (assumes you want a plug on this end)
      and then over in 274 series you would need a 1/8 mono plug.

      or you could also use a 42 series mono cable and then a 279 series rj-ll keystone (this may be a bit more secure)

      and i think the electrical tape is 64 series (should be on a hook next to the parts bins)

      note ive not been working stock at RadioShack for over 2 years so why do i remember this??

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    45. Re:Surveillance by Khyber · · Score: 1

      They're doing so well that they had to close down the two stores closest to me? Wow, remind me to never run a business that is successful in that manner.

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    46. Re:Surveillance by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      Mine doesn't carry soldering irons, and they might have a place on the shelf for the adapters, but I'd be shocked if they have any stock. It's really quite sad.

      My local Lowe's home store sells more soldering irons and headphone jack adapters.

    47. Re:Surveillance by Khyber · · Score: 1

      No specialty certification tests required nowdays. Several friends worked for RS in the new millenium and they never once had a certification test to pass.

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    48. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, Radio Shack hasn't sold anything for the electronics hobbyist for years now. One out of the five local ones has a few items, mostly overpriced or useless gear that would have been relevant/useful in the 80s.

      I used to go to Fry's Electronics but even they aren't carrying as much as they used to. Now I have to order components online.

    49. Re:Surveillance by Rick17JJ · · Score: 1

      I remember back in the 1970s and 1980s when Radio Shack was very electronics oriented and had employees who actually knew about real electronics. Now, most Radio Shack employees seem to be young people who know about using gadgets like cell phones a MP3 players, but nothing about soldering irons and electronics.

      Several years ago, I went into a Radio Shack store and asked what wattage soldering iron and which type of solder should I use for attaching connectors onto the end of two heavy gage wires that connect my 200-Watt ham radio, to the 12-Volt power supply. They actually managed to find a soldering iron in the store. But, they then handed me a tiny little low wattage soldering iron, that was way too small to adequately heat up wires and connectors of that size. I soon realized, that they did not know anything about soldering irons or soldering.

      I also had a similar experience, at another radio shack store when I wanted a soldering iron, for soldering a connector onto the end of a large coax cable. Once again, they suggested a tiny little soldering iron, that was better suited for small electronic components. That little soldering iron, failed to heat up my large coax cable and connector enough for the solder to melt.

      I have discovered, that Radio Shack is not about real electronics anymore. In past decades, they usually had at least one person in the store who actually knew some about electronics and using things like soldering irons. Their selection of basic electronic parts and connectors is also now very limited. Now days, if I want to find someone who actually knows something about radio or electronics, I would try the nearest Ham Radio Outlet store or the local ham radio club or go to eham.net instead. Either that or just turn on my radio and ask another more experienced ham radio operator.

    50. Re:Surveillance by trjonescp · · Score: 1

      That's interesting because that's exactly what the NPR report said Radio Shack is doing well - closing the doors on failing locations.

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    51. Re:Surveillance by axl917 · · Score: 1

      All I needed a few weeks ago was a simple barrel connector, and they did not have the simple ones anymore. All they had was one with a grounding tap in the middle for about $13.99. Went to Wal-Mart of all places and they had a 2-pack for $2.99.

    52. Re:Surveillance by BetterSense · · Score: 1

      Do you live in Cambridge, OH? Cause you exactly described it. $12 shipping for a $.07 part was about right. I live in Dallas now, but I remember those days. I think I kept more small electronics parts in stock at my college apartment than Radioshack had. There is an amazingly awesome misc surplus electronics store here that has EVERYTHING you need and stuff you didn't know you did. I just went there and bought some cool TO-220 heatsinks and 3-amp power op-amps; it's basically heaven.

      I heard Montana actually has pretty good tubes due to some fiber optic runs that cross the state.

    53. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was born in the year of Orwellian rule, so I mostly missed out on the good years of radio shack. It was such a hardship to find components I needed for projects before my family could afford internet. I left the EE path long, long ago to my dismay.

      The real reason I respond is the notion of a local hardware store selling components to fix my "throw away" hundreds of dollars worth of electronics gear is an elegant and, to this 25 year old, sadly a novel one.

    54. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I needed something similar for a presentation, adapting one to another particular type of connector. I was at RS, couldn't find the precise cable, and managed to cobble a few adapters together to get what I wanted. I remarked to the sales guy, "I think this will work, I just hate having to spend $50 [or whatever the cost was] for it." He chuckled and said I didn't have much choice. So I bought the parts, did my presentation, and took them back for my refund :-)

    55. Re:Surveillance by Baldrson · · Score: 1
      The following are provided in order to assist the industry in identifying suspicious orders:
      1. An individual who desires to pay cash and wants to pick up the chemical(s).
      2. An established customer who deviates from previous orders or ordering methods.
      3. A new customer or unfamiliar representative of an established customer who orders listed chemicals.
      4. A customer who has difficulty in pronouncing chemical names.
      5. A customer who is vague about its firm's address, telephone number, and reason for desiring a listed chemical.
      6. A customer who wants a listed chemical shipped to a post office box or address other than the usual business address.
      7. A customer who prefers to pay by cashier's check, postal money order, etc.
      8. A customer who will not furnish references or who is vague about furnishing references for credit purposes.
      9. A customer who desires listed chemicals for reasons at variance with accepted legitimate industry practice.
      10. A customer who is not a member of a trade, professional, or business association.
      11. A customer who furnishes false or suspicious addresses, telephone numbers, or references.
      12. A customer who refuses or is reluctant to establish a credit account or provide purchase order information.
      13. A customer whose communication either by telephone, mail, or other means is not conducted or prepared in a professional business manner.
      14. A customer who requests unusual methods or routes of shipment or who provides unusual shipping, labeling or packaging instructions.
      15. A customer who purchases unusual quantities or combinations of chemicals or glassware in contrast with customary practice and usage.
      16. A customer whose stated use of listed chemicals is incompatible with destination country's commercial activities or consignee's line of business.
      17. A customer with little or no business background information available.
      18. A customer using a freight forwarder as ultimate consignee.
      19. The use of intermediate consignee(s) whose location or business is incompatible with the purported end user's nature of business or location.]
      20. Evasive responses to any questions, or responses that indicate a lack of basic knowledge of the industry, or inability to supply information on whether listed chemicals are for domestic use or export.

      Then, there is Bill "we must disempower the individual" Joy.

      Who, exactly, is being paranoid of whom?

    56. Re:Surveillance by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      It's worse than that. I went to Radio Shack to get a jumper to set my hard drive to "master". After being unable to find a pack, I went to the cashier and said I needed jumpers for a hard drive and got the blank stare. After I explained what it was, he said they didn't have it. The last time I needed jumpers, the Radio Shack guy knew what they were, had them, and took me right to them. They need to change their name so people, who go to Radio Shack to find what they need, won't go there.

    57. Re:Surveillance by bledri · · Score: 1

      They wonder why they are going out of business...it's because they've changed their competition from Ace Hardware to Best Buy. ....

      Unfortunately, I don't think there is a market for a chain of brick-and-mortar stores that specializes in electronic components anymore. The only ones that still seem in business in my experience are mom-and-pop relics that are in seedy, low-rent areas. I'm sure someone can point out some store that is awesome and an exception to my experience, but I doubt there is enough of a market for a nationwide chain.

      As to betting they'll be chapter 11, I have no idea. I just don't think selling electronic components would improve the outcome.

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    58. Re:Surveillance by PRMan · · Score: 1

      One time I was at a Radio Shack and I just needed to buy one $18.50 item really quick. The sole employee was going on and on, first helping a clueless woman and then arguing with the guy behind her (in front of me) that he HAD to provide his information in order to ring him up. At that moment, I just set $20 on the counter and walked out. The female employee was screaming that I had to come back, but I just kept going. As I exited the store, I was surprised to see the other customer right behind me. He saw what I had done and just pulled out some cash himself. That was the last time they asked me for personal information, thank God.

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    59. Re:Surveillance by sjames · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that at the time their catalog was actually a fairly handy thing to have around.

    60. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mines quite different, the store is managed by a hot chick who knows hr S%$t

    61. Re:Surveillance by stry_cat · · Score: 1

      They never, ever, asked for picture ID.

      That's funny. The reason I stopped going to RS (in addition to all the reasons others have mentioned) is that they always demand a photo ID from me. The last time I refused and reported them for violating their merchant agreement with Mastercard

    62. Re:Surveillance by atamido · · Score: 1

      Even if they are staying afloat by selling off assets, I'm still amazed that they've been able to do so for so long. They don't sell many useful items, and what they do sell is priced so high that only the terminally stupid would buy it. The fact that they are still in business is some sort of engineering marvel.

      I was in their recently as I was out of town and really needed an S-Video cable. I was willing to pay a premium for quick convenience, but they wanted $30 for a 6ft cable. Seriously? Fortunately they had a few cables with older packaging art that was being phased out so I picked one up for $10. A few days ago I ordered some online for another project for about $1 each. Had they not had the heavily discounted stock (which was still not a good price) I would have tried to find a Best Buy.

    63. Re:Surveillance by Kamokazi · · Score: 1

      Actually I'm on the opposite side of the state...about 15 minutes from Indiana.

      And if you're paying $12 shipping for single components, you're ordering from the wrong place...a lot of the electronics component places I have shopped with online will send small orders via first class mail. I don't do nearly enough DIY stuff to make a local store a major convenience like that.

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    64. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh... you said "taint"....

    65. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely, a Radio Shack always had an "old-timer" or a high-schooler who liked challenges and good enough with a soldering iron to fabricate or repair the item in mind, using off the shelf stuff without resorting to expensive pre-packaged solutions. Typically under $5.00 total, these one-offs are (or were) another testament to American ingenuity - and why Radio Shacks survive. (The stores I worked in always had soldering irons BTW)

    66. Re:Surveillance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sorry you had such a crappy experience but apparently they're werent trained cause we carry a S-video to RCA cable and its only like 7-10 $.

  3. Back in the day... by jes1510 · · Score: 1

    "The Shack" was the place to go to grab some TTL logic chips and capacitors. Now they sell cell phones, and not very well at that. I suspect "The Shack" is doomed.

    1. Re:Back in the day... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Informative

      I used to buy parts 'at the last minute' at the rat shack. now, I don't even bother looking anymore and instead just hit up the only valid mailorder places left: digikey, mouser, newark are the big 3.

      their parts are cheap enough, they work, they web ordering works and the selection is world class (literally, many people across the world order parts FROM the US distributors and even pay VAT/customs to receive the pkg).

      I go into a rat shack and I see candy, cellphones and an ever dwindling parts selection.

      they don't even carry x10 powerline remote stuff anymore (that used to be a stable at the shack).

      I might as well turn in my radio shack battery club card:

      http://www.antiqueradios.com/gallery/v/temp/battofmonth2.jpg.html

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    2. Re:Back in the day... by p_trekkie · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, they still sell logic chips and miscellaneous electronic components, albeit fairly well-hidden in the back of the store. I had a last minute idea for a project for a summer camp group I was leading last week and was able to pick up all the components I needed from RadioShack. Admittedly, the selection isn't what it used to be, but it's still there when you have a sudden pressing need for resistors, LEDs, transistors and capacitors....

      Who knows what this "rebranding" will do for that section of the store....

    3. Re:Back in the day... by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Actually, they still sell logic chips and miscellaneous electronic components, albeit fairly well-hidden in the back of the store. I had a last minute idea for a project for a summer camp group I was leading last week and was able to pick up all the components I needed from RadioShack. Admittedly, the selection isn't what it used to be, but it's still there when you have a sudden pressing need for resistors, LEDs, transistors and capacitors....

      That's assuming the manager/employees at your local store even know what those things are or why people would want them. I went to one of my local "The Shacks" a few months ago to pick up some things. The drawers were tucked in the back and almost completely empty. When I asked the manager about them he just shrugged and said "I don't know what that stuff is for". Thankfully another "The Shack" near me did have the pots and resistors I needed.

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    4. Re:Back in the day... by rikkards · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Every time I went into the Source (Radio Shack in Canada since someone still owns the name) and went to that section, the guy would always come over assuming I was stealing batteries or some remote control doodad because no one ever goes into that section anymore.

    5. Re:Back in the day... by nxtw · · Score: 1

      The selection may vary depending on the location... I didn't pay a whole lot of attention or spend a whole lot of time in the store, but I think the Radio Shack in my local mall has a more consumer electronics-oriented selection than the Radio Shack in a plaza across the street.

    6. Re:Back in the day... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      It depends on the store.

      Some stores still have a wide variety of components. (Usually but not always "strip mall" and "standalone" stores, but not always.)

      Some stores only have a reduced selection.

      Some stores (nearly all mall stores) have no electronic components.

      In my case, Unicorn Electronics in Johnson City, NY is closer than all of the local Rat Shacks, and other than its reduced business hours compared to RS (Unicorn closes at 6), it's where I always go for components if I need them quickly.

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    7. Re:Back in the day... by ElSupreme · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I was making my own AA battery cell phone charger. And was looking for a mini-usb male connector. All I got from them was to buy a car charger for my phone. Needless to say I found an old Motorola charger and sacraficed the end. But they did have diodes and a battery clip that worked for me.

      But in reality there is only one 'Good' radio shack near me, and it was the one where I was told to buy a car charger when describing my completly unrealated project to them. Plus they wanted $20 for a charger (that didn't even have my phone model, though it would have worked, on the box). All I ever see there are cell phones and GPSs.

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    8. Re:Back in the day... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Back in the day was when geeks didn't think of "time to live" when hearing TTL...

      Let's face it, the times of the soldering iron are past. Sure, I enjoy a bit of soldering every now and then, but even my soldering needs can't keep a shop alive.

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    9. Re:Back in the day... by jftitan · · Score: 1

      I used to work for the Rat Shack, I understand the corporate people not understanding wtf they are doing. I'm used to it. Worked for Rat Shack for over 5 years, even during my working for other companies periods I would go back to my old store, and just see what new was happening.

        I agree with most other people, Rat Shack has gone from being a reliable parts & knowledge store to a shitty no one has a fucking clue WTF they are doing, selling DVDS/BD and candy store. The quality of the products are the same since 10 -15 years ago. Just new packaging, and plastic. The prices have skyrocketed for stuff that they manufacture on a dimes cost.

          The District Management is just a laughing joke. Before I left the last time I left, They had replaced a DM because he was having an affair with a manager in another district... then replaced him with a woman who had no clue how to run a store. (trust me... when a DM asks you (a store employee) why sales are bad, and you give them the logical explanation as to why... then ignores the whole conversation to just say. "We'll your not selling enough cell phones"...

          Really... really, I'm not selling enough cell phones compared to the 150% profit gains I make in just helping people by getting them what they came in to the store to get in the first place. Parts and Accessories. Upper management at RadioShack (Tandy... whatever the fuck they wish to call themselves now) have no damn clue... because no one wants to lift a damn finger to get the truth from the people on the ground floor. They spend more time worrying about how the plan-o-gram should look, compared to why they leave expensive items near the front door, and wonder why stuff gets stolen so easily.

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    10. Re:Back in the day... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      The real problem is your retail soldering needs. There is no way any reasonably sized store can go up against the massive catalog and capacity of digikey, mouser, and friends. This pretty much cuts the retail demand for parts down to "common parts that I need now" which is a slim living indeed.

    11. Re:Back in the day... by Beorytis · · Score: 1

      mouser

      RS (a.k.a. "The S") hasn't really lost my business to Best Buy, but they have lost it to Mouser. I did buy a decent soldering station at RS, but when I needed a replacement tip, they didn't carry it! Mouser not only had it, but they had several different types.

    12. Re:Back in the day... by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Back in the day was when geeks didn't think of "time to live" when hearing TTL...

      Let's face it, the times of the soldering iron are past. Sure, I enjoy a bit of soldering every now and then, but even my soldering needs can't keep a shop alive.

      I would agree in the sense that the homebrew electronics hobby is insufficient to sustain a store in a mall... But the hobby isn't dead (look to Make Magazine, for instance) - it just can't sustain a retail store in a prime location, particularly given the existence of online stores, etc.

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    13. Re:Back in the day... by skullbox15 · · Score: 1

      I honestly don't see how this company is still in business. They electronic components they sell are low-quality and over-priced. The consumer electronics they produce (amplifiers and keyboards for example) are even worse. I have included more reasons why in this blog post: http://blog.erikrodriguez.net/?title=radioshack-to-be-the-shack&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

    14. Re:Back in the day... by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 1

      I'll see your soldering nostalgia and raise you a WIRE WRAP TOOL! :)

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    15. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, my Radio Shack still has everything. But its all locked up in a big cabinet in the back that an employee needs to unlock for you. There's no glass windows on the cabinet so unless you actually bother to ask the employees for the stuff you could walk through the entire store and not know that they still stocked all those things. Fortunately, for my store, they do -- and the guy who owns the place actually hires decent competent workers who know their stuff, so they're delighted when someone comes buy to ask to get into the cabinet.

    16. Re:Back in the day... by slapout · · Score: 1

      trust me... when a DM asks you (a store employee) why sales are bad, and you give them the logical explanation as to why... then ignores the whole conversation to just say. "We'll your not selling enough cell phones"...

      I know exactly what you're talking about. I used to work there about ten years ago. At one point they changed the process for selling DirecTv units. It went from a quick thing to a complicated process where the customer had to do a lot of stuff before they could leave. They next week I overheard the DM ask (with a straight face) "I wonder why DirecTv sales are down this week".

      I left around the time they started using secret shoppers to find and fire employees who didn't offer every single customer a cell phone AND a satellite TV.

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    17. Re:Back in the day... by skine · · Score: 1

      That's assuming the manager/employees at your local store even know what those things are or why people would want them.

      I've found that the trick is finding a store with an older male employee.
      They tend to know a little better what the parts are, what they do, why people would want them, and even understand the DIY attitude.

      Hell, one time I went to a "The Shack," and asked a younger employee if they had any turntable preamps in stock.
      Her response: "Yuh mean like speakers fer like deejayin' and stuff?"

    18. Re:Back in the day... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      the selection isn't what it used to be, but it's still there when you have a sudden pressing need for horribly overpriced resistors, LEDs, transistors and capacitors....

      There I fixed that for you. Their pricing is near criminal on those items. I recently bought a bag of 100, 10,000mcd brightness white led's for the price of ONE 5 year old technology old stock barely bright white led that radio shack carries.

      Unless you have someone that has a gun to your head forcing you, there is never a reason to buy any small parts from radio shack. Even Jameco has better pricing and will get you stuff in your hands in 3 days.

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    19. Re:Back in the day... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I agree, I graduated to real equipment and refuse to solder with the low grade dog food they sold at retail stores. My weller soldering station, the hot tweezers and vacuum de-soldering station kick the crap out of the junk they sold. Plus they don't carry any surface mount stuff or any real parts, so why even bother.

      The ONLY good thing is that they still sell the good old 60/40 lead+tin solder. not this new crap that eco-friendly and worthless for any longevity.

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    20. Re:Back in the day... by jstults · · Score: 1

      That happens at the Radio Shacks in the US too; I was looking for a little momentary switch for a project a while back and the dude walks over and asks me what I'm looking for and tries to pretend he's interested in my project (which is just awkward because he's clueless), but he doesn't really know what they carry or what might work instead in a pinch.

      So all he accomplished was making sure I didn't pilfer a few pennies worth of potentiometers and make me feel awkward because he was such a no-help-giving goober. Thanks. Waiting a couple days for the mail order keeps looking better.

    21. Re:Back in the day... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      They still sell the good stuff? Hoover it up and hoard it.

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    22. Re:Back in the day... by shiftless · · Score: 1

      There is no way any reasonably sized store can go up against the massive catalog and capacity of digikey, mouser, and friends. This pretty much cuts the retail demand for parts down to "common parts that I need now" which is a slim living indeed.

      Yes, but I'd bet that there are similar types of interests these stores could cater to that would attract enough customers to keep them afloat. For example, home automation equipment, CB and ham radio equipment, do it yourself electronic kits, "Heathkit" type learning kits, etc.

    23. Re:Back in the day... by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      Even Jameco has better pricing and will get you stuff in your hands in 3 days.

      And that's exactly what you're buying when you pay for horribly overpriced resistors at Radio Shack: three days, and all the overhead required to sell individual resistors. When I buy from digikey, I often find it's cheaper to buy a reel of 2500 resistors than it is to buy 200 resistors cut-tape. And Radio Shack has to buy those dumb-looking shirts and keep a zillion bad cellphones in stock on its shelves, as well as all the resistors I don't need that day.

      I really miss TechAmerica, Radio Shack's ill-fated attempt to restart electronics components stores, where I only paid maybe 3x what jameco costs, and could get nearly anything in under an hour. Those only lasted 3 years, as I recall.

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    24. Re:Back in the day... by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      that's why you have a home depot across the street. It might not have individual resisters and caps, but it has all kinds of x10, audio/vidio wiring, etc, but the guy in the aisle knows even less than the guy back at RS.

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    25. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      group I was leading

      When you said leading, did you mean molesting?

    26. Re:Back in the day... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i work for radioshack those battery club cards are obsolute ...sorry

  4. Why rebrand? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

    What will rebranding actually do for them, will it increase sales, will it make room for better expansion or is it really just pointless!

  5. Problem by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main problem is that a "shack" usually connotes a cheap, run down house. Not really the image they should try to project.

    (I know "clam shack", "radio shack", etc. don't really have such a connotation. I'm just talking about the word "shack" when it's used all by itself.)

    1. Re:Problem by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      It's because they're completely changing their business model. Pizza Hut is now "The Hut" and they're selling pasta and crap. Radio Shack is going to become "The Shack" and sell pizza. Now we just need to wait for a pasta joint that's going to start selling electronics and the circle will be complete.

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    2. Re:Problem by mverley · · Score: 1

      Totally agree. I never shop there myself because I find them overpriced and unhelpful. But I was quite surprised to read http://www.fwbusinesspress.com/display.php?id=10707: they actually made a decent profit in 2Q 2009 despite slight declines in gross revenue. So someone must shop there.

    3. Re:Problem by nine-times · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It also has the connotation of "shacking up", and there's that song "Love Shack". Maybe they intend to start selling porn?

    4. Re:Problem by bpsbr_ernie · · Score: 1

      First phrase that came to mind for me was... B52's "Love Shack"... could that be the direction they are trying to move towards?...

    5. Re:Problem by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      It's because they're completely changing their business model. Pizza Hut is now "The Hut" and they're selling pasta and crap.

      The one down the street from me has The Hut / Wings Central or something like that on the marquee sign. Maybe they should just lower the price of one of their pizza's from $15+ to less than $9 and not waste the $20k on each new sign...

    6. Re:Problem by megamerican · · Score: 1

      I completely agree. They need to change their name completely. How about "The Base"?

      Then expand their operations to Arab nations.

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    7. Re:Problem by RKThoadan · · Score: 2, Funny

      And everyone told me my research into electrically conductive spaghetti noodles was foolish. I'll show them now!

    8. Re:Problem by HalifaxRage · · Score: 1

      But will it belong to us?

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    9. Re:Problem by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      Seeing as how "radio" also denotes an ancient run-down technology, the combination "Radio Shack" seemed like something the professor would build on Gilligan's Island. Getting rid of the "Radio" is probably a good move.

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    10. Re:Problem by Khyber · · Score: 1

      Radio? Ancient and run-down?

      Okay, you can give me all your wireless network cards, your car stereo, home receivers, cordless phones, iPhone and iPod Touch, and then some.

      EVERYTHING wireless uses radio waves of some frequency for some purpose, be it data transmission or power transmission.

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    11. Re:Problem by story645 · · Score: 1

      they actually made a decent profit in 2Q 2009 despite slight declines in gross revenue. So someone must shop there.

      Old ladies, judging by the last one I went to. And desperate students can rack up decently high purchases around project due dates if the store has a half decent selection.

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    12. Re:Problem by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      yeah, but try telling that to the majority of the population who think radio is Clear Channel and Wi-Fi is magic that some people are allergic to.

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    13. Re:Problem by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      The main problem is that a "shack" usually connotes a cheap, run down house. Not really the image they should try to project.

      Not to mention the irrelevance to their customers. At least today everybody* carries a radio on their person. Merely a dream of customers 88 years ago.

      * everybody else, you old curmudgeon

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    14. Re:Problem by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      In real non retail life, that little building at the bottom of a tower is called the shack, short for radio shack. I've rarely heard someone call it the radio shack, but that is where the name of the store derives from. The little shack at the bottom of the tower has radios in it, the ones that go with the antennas on the tower. And the store also has radios in it, at least it did at the time Tandy came up with the name. So, if you are in the telecommunications industry, it's not a big change, but yeah, if I'm not already thinking in a radio context, the "shack" reminds me of a rickety old house that might have B52's in it. BTW, amateur radio operators, hams, also call the room in their house with radios in it the shack, but that's ham talk, and I doubt that Radio Shack is going overboard to appeal to hams any more than other enthusiasts of cheap op amp, hookup wire, and soldering irons.

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    15. Re:Problem by Khyber · · Score: 1

      I didn't find it all that difficult to educate the people. I had to train people that couldn't program the clock on a VCR how to diagnose and repair laptops. It didn't take me more than a few weeks. Some of these people were pushing their sixties. Knowing how to effectively translate from technical to layman is the critical thing.

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  6. Used to call it "Shit Shack" by PotatoHead · · Score: 1

    Guess that works better these days.

    1. Re:Used to call it "Shit Shack" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shack happens?

  7. Go to Wal-mart by maxume · · Score: 1

    The selection is about the same, the staff is equally competent, and they don't even ask for your address when you buy some batteries.

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    1. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The selection is the same? Really? When was the last time you bought an op-amp at Wal-mart?

    2. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      The selection is the same? Really? When was the last time you bought an op-amp at Wal-mart?

      Try buying one at Radio Shack:

      "A what?"

      "Nevermind, I'll find it myself."

      "Do you want to upgrade your phone with that?"

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    3. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Tsar · · Score: 1

      The selection is about the same, the staff is equally competent, and they don't even ask for your address when you buy some batteries.

      Yes, the equally competent Wal-Mart staff were very helpful last week when I needed a 2200 microfarad capacitor. I believe the kid's exact response was, "Dude, you shoulda hit the 'Shack."

      I'm kidding of course. I hit the 'Shack first. And yes, I'm one of those guys who walks right past the luser filter--er--consumer electronics section.

    4. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry but Radio Shack (or as it will be known now, as The Shack) is no longer the place to buy your cool parts for build projects. Yes, they still have a decent supply of some things but every time I go in there it becomes closer and closer to a best buy. I mean, half the stuff in there is pre-built computers, cell phones and such. The days of going to Radio Shack to find every obscure part you need for a build project are long over.

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    5. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      The selection is the same? Really? When was the last time you bought an op-amp at Wal-mart?

      Try buying one at Radio Shack:

      "A what?"

      "Nevermind, I'll find it myself."

      "Do you want to upgrade your phone with that?"

      Well, I have had that experience at Radio Shack, and I remember the days when I at least didn't expect that would be the case...

      However, a couple Radio Shacks around me actually are pretty competent when it comes to their (rather small, but reasonably well-stocked) parts sections... I think if I went to Woburn Mall and asked for an op-amp - probably some of the employees there would just point me at the parts section, maybe a couple (including the manager) would be able to readily tell me whether they stock them, and would find it for me if I couldn't find it myself.

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    6. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Volvogga · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hey, that's one of my favorite pass times. There isn't many things I enjoy more in the mall than walking into RadioShack, being approached by an employee offering to help me find something, and telling him exactly what it is that I want. The look of confusion, horror, and dulling of the eyes as DUMMY MODE moves to the ON position makes me smile on the inside.

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    7. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The selections is not the same, but most WalMarts I have been to have more floor space in the Electronics department than the a typical Radio Shack has floor space period.

    8. Re:Go to Wal-mart by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

      The part I like even better than the "blank stare" you'll get when you tell them that you are looking for "A DPDT 10 amp relay with a 12V DC coil" is the look that you get when they say "Uh, we don't carry that", just as you pull one off the pegboard yourself....

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  8. legalize now by davejenkins · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're just anticipating the coming legalization of pot. It will allow them to move into a generalized convenience store model, sort of a "smarter" quik-e-mart: soldering irons, robot toys, pot,and munchies.

    1. Re:legalize now by cmpalmer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Back in the early 80's, the Radio Shack store at the local mall had a fishbowl full of alligator clips marked "party favors" (roach clips).

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    2. Re:legalize now by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

      Funny, I bought a butane soldering iron/torch a few years ago, and they checked my ID, even though I was almost forty at the time. Apparently they cater to a crackhead demographic now.

      That visit was also the point where I learned how much lead-free solder sucks. I'm just waiting for the day my mother calls to report fireworks in the back of her TV when a tin whisker takes out the power connector.

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    3. Re:legalize now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're just anticipating the coming legalization of pot. It will allow them to move into a generalized convenience store model, sort of a "smarter" quik-e-mart: soldering irons, robot toys, pot,and munchies.

      I thought that was Fry's business model?

    4. Re:legalize now by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      Damn Man! You might be on to something there! Are you an investment banker? and if so can I subscribe to your newsletter? The mad money guy has been letting me down since... well.. I guess he has always let me down...

      X - "yes I need a 1k resistor and a box of 100 blue LEDs..."
      Z - "so umm 100 grams of blue weed and a heating element for your vaporizer... Ok man, HEY! ummm, would you like some batteries with dat man?"

    5. Re:legalize now by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      Damn, I was about to mention the alligator clips, but you beat me to it. Can you do anything fun with banana plugs?

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  9. How are they even still in business at this point? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Radioshack has spent the last 20-30 years attempting to rebrand itself from a store that carries one-of-a-kind electrical components and equipment to a store that carries 2nd-rate, overpriced versions of the stuff everyone else carries (cellphones, computers, really awful audio equipment, non-educational toys, etc.). It's all part of their master plan to turn themselves into a store with no apparent reason to exist.

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  10. Cheap electronic parts by crumbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

    Digikey?

    Not to be an old grumpy man, but RS has missed out on the electronics maker revolution of the past decade. They could have been on the ball, like NewEgg, for the PC modding market but failed to adapt to the market. The RS of today is but a poor imitation of the RS of the '70s and '80s. Full of crap, obsoleted models and cheap junk. /Now get off my lawn.

    1. Re:Cheap electronic parts by schnikies79 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most of the time when I got to radio shack for a component, I need it now. Not in two days.

      For instance, movie night with my buds a few weeks ago. DVD player popped a cap (blah, that sounded ghetto. magic smoke instead). A trip the Radio Crack and 20 mins later, we were back in business.

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    2. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      Not to be an old grumpy man, but RS has missed out on the electronics maker revolution of the past decade. They could have been on the ball, like NewEgg, for the PC modding market but failed to adapt to the market. The RS of today is but a poor imitation of the RS of the '70s and '80s. Full of crap, obsoleted models and cheap junk. /Now get off my lawn.

      If you're close enough to a MicroCenter, they're more like what a Radio Shack should have become. And they actually have a better selection of electronics tools than RS. They only lack a wall full of discretes and ICs, but so does Radio Shack now.

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    3. Re:Cheap electronic parts by TinBromide · · Score: 1

      Yeah, pretty much, you can spend $40 for a 6' hdmi cable at radio shack, or you can pay $2 on amazon.com, ditto for most or all other A/V type cables. Jameco and digikey, as well as smaller mom-and-pop electronic component stores (they still exist, they're just tricky to find, simply because you don't know where it is doesn't mean that you don't have one hiding in an indstrial park somewhere) were pretty much where i went to after RS moved all of their components to the a cabinet at the back of the store and only refilled it once a year or so.

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    4. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I needed a 3.5mm stereo jack so I could unbrick a Netgear 614L router. Radio Shack was around the corner and had what I needed.

      For my real projects Digikey is the place for me.

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    5. Re:Cheap electronic parts by gid · · Score: 1

      So true, Radio Shack was always the last place I'd go to look at computers and equipment, even back in the 80s and 90s.

    6. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      Most of the time when I got to radio shack for a component, I need it now. Not in two days.

      For instance, movie night with my buds a few weeks ago. DVD player popped a cap (blah, that sounded ghetto. magic smoke instead). A trip the Radio Crack and 20 mins later, we were back in business.

      That's great if your Radio Shack actually carries such things. I can assure you that is no longer typical.

      We have two Radio Shacks in town, neither one of them sells capacitors.

      One of them is purely consumer electronics. It is located right next door to a Verizon store and is obviously trying to compete with them for cell phone sales. Half of their store is devoted to cell phones and cell phone accessories. The other half of the store has an assortment of DVD players and remote controlled robot toys. Nothing even remotely related to electronics repair.

      The second one is a little better... It carries an assortment of cables and adapters. They even stock soldering irons, solder, and various types of wire. But they don't carry capacitors, or LEDs, or resistors, or breadboards, or any of the stuff that used to make Radio Shack my first (and frequently only) stop. And the selection of wire/cables/adapters is unimpressive. Most of their floorspace is taken up by remote controlled toys and overpriced audio/video equipment.

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    8. Re:Cheap electronic parts by swb · · Score: 1

      Now if we could only do something about Microcenter's pricing to get it close enough to Newegg's that the tax/shipping is a wash. A little less sloppy merchandising would help, too, but in general without it I'd be lost.

    9. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

      Digikey?

      Here in the Boston Area, there's the Your-Do-It... Man, that place is glorious. I think I wouldn't be able to go there and buy all the parts I might need (for instance, 30 AWG stranded wire, white 2mm axial LEDs, microcontrollers) but about half of their first floor is dedicated to parts, kits, tools, and supplies. (The other half of the first floor is electronic educational toys, security products, etc., and then upstairs there's audio/video gear...)

      So that's where I go to buy soldering irons...

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    10. Re:Cheap electronic parts by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      From their front page:

      ** Micro Center's "Web Pricing, Get It Now!" program applies to all in-stock Intel® and AMD® processors. Twice per week, on Monday and Thursday evenings, we verify CPU pricing from newegg.com and tigerdirect.com, and verify our price is set to the lowest non-rebated price including shipping. This price is effective when the store opens the next day and remains firm until the next price change is effective on a Tuesday or Friday morning. Comparisons will be for like product only; boxed product to boxed product and OEM (also known as tray product) to OEM product. Limited time offer. Micro Center reserves the right to limit quantities. Matched prices are exclusive of sales tax. Prior sales excluded.

      They seem to be making improvements on this front to me...

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    11. Re:Cheap electronic parts by swb · · Score: 1

      That's like saying putting a new coat of paint on the Titanic is making an improvement to passenger shipping. It helps when buying a new, boxed CPU, but how often do you buy a new boxed CPU?

      I build all my own desktop PCs, but we're talking maybe 6 or 7 new boxed CPU purchases in the last 10 years. I've easily bought 5x as many accessories (video cards, mice, ad nauseum) and generally speaking unless I really need/want it NOW, I have to skip Microcenter because it will cost me 30% or more, and usually with inferior selection.

      Of course none of this is to knock Microcenter as a bad place to shop -- I'm there at least once a week, usually for some item I need for a business client at the last minute and they almost never fail me, even on obscure items like fiber optic patch cables or bigger networking gear you'd never find at Worst Buy.

    12. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounded ghetto huh

    13. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

      Obvious, China

    14. Re:Cheap electronic parts by snooo53 · · Score: 1

      How true. If RS had more of the types of things Newegg and Thinkgeek carry, I might actually go there more often. Newegg because of the computer parts, and Thinkgeek for the offbeat gadgets. Seems like that wouldn't be that hard to add to the current mix

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    15. Re:Cheap electronic parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fry's?

      (if there's one in your metropolis)

  11. So? by kjs3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Radio Shack has been an irrelevant vendor of cell phones and cheap 2nd tier consumer electronics for a decade. Long gone are the days when one ran down there to pick up a couple of capacitors and transistors to finish that weekend project.

  12. I prefered "Radio Shaft" by computersareevil · · Score: 1

    Because if I had to buy any parts there I had to pay their ludicrous high prices.

    1. Re:I prefered "Radio Shaft" by rcw-home · · Score: 1

      My favorite was "Rat Shack".

    2. Re:I prefered "Radio Shaft" by Mad-Bassist · · Score: 1

      Count me in the Radio Shaft column. I've been using that name for at least a dozen years. I tried to get a job there a few years ago, and they're looking for someone who is essentially a used car salesman. No wonder they aren't any help when looking for parts.

      I found out just last year they discontinued their free battery cards, which probably shows how little I care about the name change.

      Ahh. I remember the good old days when they advertised having a selection of over 2000 tubes, heh heh.

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    3. Re:I prefered "Radio Shaft" by NotOverHere · · Score: 1

      Maybe the rebranding might help you forget your experiences of buying stuff at twice the price for half the quality.

      Honestly, these guys should have been out of business FAR before Circuit City.

    4. Re:I prefered "Radio Shaft" by kobaz · · Score: 1

      Precisely. Where else can you buy 25 foot ethernet cables for $20+ plus tax? Or s-video cables for $50?

      Too bad I needed an svideo cable quickly, I really did pay 50 bucks for a svideo to rca converter plus svideo cable.

      Those converters come free with $15 video cards. I think the converter itself was $30 plus tax at the rat shaft.

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    5. Re:I prefered "Radio Shaft" by demonbug · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As bad as Radio Shack's prices are, they're still cheaper than Best buy...

  13. They are being eaten by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my opinion Radioshack (aka The Source in Canada) are trying to expand in to areas that are served by better players. Here, in Canada, they try selling home electronics but Futureshop (aka Best Buy) pounds them in to the ground on volume and price. As far as electronic components go, there are better and less expensive places as well in most cities. Radioshack does sell some cheap phones, music players, toy robotics, etc but I don't see how they can survive selling that.

  14. they want to get rid of people like the poster by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 1

    the whole goal is to be more best buy like. They want to get rid of people who buy soldering irons, and other low margin items that require a lot of exspensive customer support.

  15. Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Marlin P Jones for soldering irons
    Digikey.com, newark.com, mouser.com for components.

    Radio Shack has not been serving the needs of the professional / hobby electronics geek for years.

    Goodbye Radio Shack, alas, I knew ye well.

  16. Already done in Canada by HappyHead · · Score: 2, Informative

    All of the Radio Shack stores in Canada (that I've been able to find at least) were rebranded as "The Source" years ago.

    1. Re:Already done in Canada by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Not just "The Source", but "The Source by Circuit City". The company which ran the Canadian RadioShacks was purchased by CC in 2004 shortly before their unfortunate bankruptcy, and then bought up by Bell in January of 2009. It was Bell who shortened the name to "The Source" earlier this year.

      Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

    2. Re:Already done in Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They was rebranded when Circuit City bought them all.

  17. Agreed ... bad move .... by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the last decade or so, Radio Shack seems to have been really pushing to become more of a "boutique electronics retailer", ditching their image as a "parts store" for hobbyists. I guess on one hand, I understand the desire - because there's not a lot of profit in individual sales when your customers want a package of resistors, a spool of wire, or some $10 pliers or cutter tool.

    But I don't think their obvious alternative has worked out very well for them either. They're stuck trying to compete with much larger stores like Best Buy, and getting killed merely because Radio Shack doesn't have enough floor space in a store to carry the variety people expect when shopping for a new flat panel TV set or stereo, or computer.

    Reminding people that their stores are small "EG. "The Shack" is emphasizing what may be their biggest negative in the market-space they're working in!

    1. Re:Agreed ... bad move .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand the desire - because there's not a lot of profit in individual sales when your customers want a package of resistors, a spool of wire, or some $10 pliers or cutter tool.

      Not only that but think of the associated cost, of shipping, storing, and etc. Shipping 5 of each resistor to 1000 stores where it may sit on a shelf for 2 years. As opposed to an online electronics parts warehouse... There's no way to compete. Radio Shack's edge used to be that it drew the 'geek' sales force who understood and could advice you on your project. With that gone there isn't much left...

    2. Re:Agreed ... bad move .... by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      there's not a lot of profit in individual sales when your customers want a package of resistors, a spool of wire, or some $10 pliers or cutter tool.

      All too true. RadioShack's customer base has simply dried up.

      (1) Nobody buys individual electronic components anymore (resistors, capacitors, diodes, transistors, etc).

      (2) The handful of people who need a cheap digital multimeter or a wire cutter will just go to Wal-Mart.

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    3. Re:Agreed ... bad move .... by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      Just about every Radio Shack I've been to has been quite small. With one exception, all of the ones I've been to are about the size of a 2-3 car garage. I think I was at one a few years ago that was bigger, but still nowhere near the large-shop sizes. So it always boggles my mind why they want to go the BestBuy route, and yet have all of their stores are maybe 1/10 the size of the BestBuys near me.

      The best I can figure is, they can throw MANY times the stores around so just about every neighborhood has one nearby. So if it's 7PM at night and you need something quick (RCA cable, watch battery, phone charger, TV Remote, etc) people are more likely to drive 10 minutes to the nearby RadioShack instead of 20-30 minutes to the nearest BestBuy/Walmart/etc. Sure the bigger stores might have a better selection but they're further out (perhaps a drive on a highway) and you have to wait in line.

    4. Re:Agreed ... bad move .... by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      In the last decade or so, Radio Shack seems to have been really pushing to become more of a "boutique electronics retailer", ditching their image as a "parts store" for hobbyists.

      The problem is that the marketplace is already crowded with stores selling consumer electronics.

      If I decide that I need to buy a cell phone or a DVD player I've got a ton of options right here in town - Target, WalMart, Best Buy, Sam's Club... Maybe even Sears or Staples depending on the specific piece of hardware I'm looking for.

      So, why would I go to Radio Shack? They don't have any exclusive products... Their prices aren't especially good... Their sales people aren't knowledgeable... Why would I go to them instead of one of their competitors?

      because there's not a lot of profit in individual sales when your customers want a package of resistors, a spool of wire, or some $10 pliers or cutter tool.

      There may not be a whole lot of profit in such a sale... But at least you're making a sale.

      There was a time when I knew Radio Shack would have the parts I needed for whatever it was that I was fixing. I'd stop there first, and frequently wouldn't need to make a second stop. They might not have made a lot of profit off my purchases, but they were getting my purchases.

      These days I don't bother to go to Radio Shack at all. They don't have the obscure bits I need. I'll find those bits elsewhere or order them on-line.

      And the consumer electronics that they do carry? I'd rather buy those at Best Buy or WalMart or Sam's Club - they typically have a better selection, better prices, and more knowledgeable staff.

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    5. Re:Agreed ... bad move .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the last decade or so, Radio Shack seems to have been really pushing to become more of a "boutique electronics retailer", ditching their image as a "parts store" for hobbyists. I guess on one hand, I understand the desire - because there's not a lot of profit in individual sales when your customers want a package of resistors, a spool of wire, or some $10 pliers or cutter tool.

      Last time I was in there for parts, they were getting $4.99 for a 1/8 inch headphone jack. Now you can't tell me they aren't making a profit on their parts. That jack couldn't have cost them for than a dollar (but I did need it then..). Of course now that they have dropped so many parts from their inventory you can't find everything you want at once, so I'm sure a lot less people go in here for parts for projects now..

      And when it comes to buying a TV or stereo, most people would rather than have a name brand they know than a store brand. But when they finally realized this, they went with RCA rather than Sony..

      And there habit of pestering everyone for their name and address every time you went in there for a fuse or something never went over well with a lot of people.

  18. The question everyone is asking... by sesshomaru · · Score: 1

    Will they show "syfy" on TVs at "the Shack?"

    (Although, "the Shack" has been an unfriendly sales environment for years, it was always a great place to buy electronic doodads... just remember the guy selling you the extended service plan is not your friend...)

    This is part of some new anti-geek backlash?

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  19. The Shack? FAIL by davidwr · · Score: 1

    That sounds like either a seafood restaurant, bait shop, or garden-supply house.

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  20. How do they stay in business? by ShooterNeo · · Score: 1

    There's an onion article on this, but whenever I go by radio shack, I wonder how on earth they stay in business. The shops tend to be small, with various corners full of obscure electronics components. Yet, they also attempt to sell computers and televisions from these tiny shops. Everything they have in the parts drawer or on the shelves you can get cheaper off of ebay, often at half the cost or less. Radio shack is fundamentally inefficient. Each of these little shops has an inventory that sits there and depreciates, requires employees to tend, bills and management, etc. Internet mail order shops via ebay and other mechanisms is a lot more cost effective method for delivering high value specialty goods. I mean, I've seen CPU coolers and power supplies at radio shack : hello, newegg?

    1. Re:How do they stay in business? by i.r.id10t · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And when your paper, project, etc. is due Monday morning, and your CPU fan or PSU dies Friday night, you really have time for a online purchase...

      There are some things that you just have to have *now* and even if it costs you $5-10 more than the online item, having it after a 30 min drive and short walk is worth it.

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    2. Re:How do they stay in business? by Ohio+Calvinist · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember that exact article, and you are right. I think RS does well in small markets (like where I am from) that doesn't have any of the big-box stores and tends to cater to customers who were told "I need a USB cable" but don't know what that is or where to get one. They expect they'll get marginally better (knowledgable) service than Wal-Mart with less hastle. Last time I was there in California a lot of people were paying the cellular bill there, which I don't understand why anyone would pay their bill in person when there are a lot more efficient method(s).

      I think they key for them is that crowd, and the "I need it now so I'll pay a little extra" or the "I'll pay a little extra not to stand in line at wal-mart where the person in front of me wants to send a Money Order and buy a carton of cigarettes they have to get from the counter on the other end of the store."

      They also do well when you're looking for esoteric batteries like for cameras, hearing aids, etc. They're also pretty good at having odd cables at decent prices (amongst other brick-and-mortars) such as a male-male 1/4" stereo cable for the AUX jack in newer cars. They are also good when you're traveling and need said odd batteries or a cell charger.

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    3. Re:How do they stay in business? by n30na · · Score: 1

      'The Shack' sells PSUs? I don't remember that.

    4. Re:How do they stay in business? by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1

      Small to mid sized computer shops have all of that, better quality selections and lower prices.

    5. Re:How do they stay in business? by guyminuslife · · Score: 4, Informative

      1) The workers make minimum wage plus commission.
      2) They specialize in items with a high profit margin. And then they mark them up.
      3) They attach themselves to "hot items" that suddenly everyone needs. Most recent example: digital converter boxes have been huge business.
      4) They cut costs like crazy. The CEO famously sold off all their plants to employees to save them money on maintaining them. Et cetera.
      5) They're everywhere, they're convenient. If you need something specific and relatively common, chances are the RadioShack is closer to where you live and small enough that, unlike, say, Fry's, you don't have to wander around a big box for 30 minutes.

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    6. Re:How do they stay in business? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      *gasp*

      You mean, you don't have a spare CPU fan at home, doubling as your pet to stroke while you ponder over some code (those cooling fins are quite soothing, a bit like a kitten's fur)? Toss your geek card in the shredder on your way out, will you?

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    7. Re:How do they stay in business? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      The shops tend to be small, with various corners full of obscure electronics components.

      I wish my radio shack carried obscure electronics components. Trying to find anything more complex then wire there is futile.

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    8. Re:How do they stay in business? by boarder · · Score: 1

      Then you go to Fry's or Best Buy or some place that sells computer parts. Radio Shack doesn't sell anything but mice and keyboards. Furthermore, their hours are typically worse than Best Buy or Fry's.

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    9. Re:How do they stay in business? by karnal · · Score: 1

      Last time I was in a few weeks ago (buying a 40w soldering iron) they had about 3 different ATX PSUs on the top shelf. If I recall they were Antec, but the memory is a bit fuzzy.

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    10. Re:How do they stay in business? by n30na · · Score: 1

      Huh. Maybe they don't suck quite as much as I remember. Would be nice if they had more useful stuff like that though.

    11. Re:How do they stay in business? by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      And when your paper, project, etc. is due Monday morning, and your CPU fan or PSU dies Friday night, you really have time for a online purchase...

      There are some things that you just have to have *now* and even if it costs you $5-10 more than the online item, having it after a 30 min drive and short walk is worth it.

      Are you kidding me?

      Staples has a better selection of computer hardware than my local Radio Shack does.

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    12. Re:How do they stay in business? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 0, Redundant

      here's an onion article on this, but whenever I go by radio shack, I wonder how on earth they stay in business. ...
      Internet mail order shops via ebay and other mechanisms is a lot more cost effective method for delivering high value specialty goods. I mean, I've seen CPU coolers and power supplies at radio shack : hello, newegg?
      I'm not a fan of RadioShack by any means, but as another posted pointed out there is a are multiple types of efficiency and there is difference between efficiency and convenience.

      Yes, online stores can be more efficient than either RadioShack or even small boutique shops. They can have a better selection, have more in stock, re-order thing easier, only concern themselves with storage and not valuable shelf-space, etc. A well-designed website might be easier to navigate than shelves of small widgets, and this can all result in lower cost and prices.

      However there is also a convenience factor which also plays into the efficiency of time. And sometimes my time is worth a few bucks more. Maybe I need to fix my PC immediately due to work. Maybe I need a small fuse right away. Maybe to fix something now, else have no lights in my restroom with no windows.

      If I order online it is going to take a few days to get to me, and forget about Sundays. Then god forbid if I find out it isn't the right part of isn't working correctly then that's another few days to deal with the problem. I've received DoA parts before NewEgg before.

      I'm not saying that online stores are worthless, heck I buy most of my non-clothes and non-food items online. But sometimes I need something now.

      I can try going to the local small shop I can get what I need right away without worrying about delivery time. In my case I have a RadioShack 5 minutes away, a boutique PC Warehouse about 15-20 minutes away, and a large chain stores (BestBuy/WalMart/HomeDepot) 30 minutes away. Between the 2 small stores (and the large chain stores) I've never been unable to find what I needed and have the round trip take less than 1-1.5 hours (drive out + check 1st store + check 2nd store + return).

      The Radio Shack has most of the A/V stuff I might need (and at 5 minutes away it's more convenient than online or even large stores). At night when I don't feel like making a big trek for 1 thing it's sometimes just easier to hit there first.

      The PC Warehouse has a decent collection of PC parts (motherboards, CPUs, cases, components, cooling systems, etc). It's obviously not a NewEgg or Amazon, but if I need to resurrect a system ASAP it's a good place to visit. Heck, sometimes the price is close enough to online shops that I wouldn't even be saving much/anything going online.

      Big Chain stores are about 30 minutes away, but at least in the same direction as the PC Warehouse so a multi-stop trip isn't a total loss.

      Online stores are good, but sometimes I need/want something in a few hours and not a few days.

    13. Re:How do they stay in business? by kannibal_klown · · Score: 1

      here's an onion article on this, but whenever I go by radio shack, I wonder how on earth they stay in business. ...
              Internet mail order shops via ebay and other mechanisms is a lot more cost effective method for delivering high value specialty goods. I mean, I've seen CPU coolers and power supplies at radio shack : hello, newegg?

      FIXED A BLOCKQUOTE TAG

              I'm not a fan of RadioShack by any means, but as another posted pointed out there is a are multiple types of efficiency and there is difference between efficiency and convenience.

              Yes, online stores can be more efficient than either RadioShack or even small boutique shops. They can have a better selection, have more in stock, re-order thing easier, only concern themselves with storage and not valuable shelf-space, etc. A well-designed website might be easier to navigate than shelves of small widgets, and this can all result in lower cost and prices.

              However there is also a convenience factor which also plays into the efficiency of time. And sometimes my time is worth a few bucks more. Maybe I need to fix my PC immediately due to work. Maybe I need a small fuse right away. Maybe to fix something now, else have no lights in my restroom with no windows.

              If I order online it is going to take a few days to get to me, and forget about Sundays. Then god forbid if I find out it isn't the right part of isn't working correctly then that's another few days to deal with the problem. I've received DoA parts before NewEgg before.

              I'm not saying that online stores are worthless, heck I buy most of my non-clothes and non-food items online. But sometimes I need something now.

              I can try going to the local small shop I can get what I need right away without worrying about delivery time. In my case I have a RadioShack 5 minutes away, a boutique PC Warehouse about 15-20 minutes away, and a large chain stores (BestBuy/WalMart/HomeDepot) 30 minutes away. Between the 2 small stores (and the large chain stores) I've never been unable to find what I needed and have the round trip take less than 1-1.5 hours (drive out + check 1st store + check 2nd store + return).

              The Radio Shack has most of the A/V stuff I might need (and at 5 minutes away it's more convenient than online or even large stores). At night when I don't feel like making a big trek for 1 thing it's sometimes just easier to hit there first.

              The PC Warehouse has a decent collection of PC parts (motherboards, CPUs, cases, components, cooling systems, etc). It's obviously not a NewEgg or Amazon, but if I need to resurrect a system ASAP it's a good place to visit. Heck, sometimes the price is close enough to online shops that I wouldn't even be saving much/anything going online.

              Big Chain stores are about 30 minutes away, but at least in the same direction as the PC Warehouse so a multi-stop trip isn't a total loss.

              Online stores are good, but sometimes I need/want something in a few hours and not a few days.

    14. Re:How do they stay in business? by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      and your CPU fan or PSU dies Friday night

      Which is why we have a MicroCenter hereabouts...

      rj

    15. Re:How do they stay in business? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're everywhere, they're convenient. If you need something specific and relatively common, chances are the RadioShack is closer to where you live and small enough that, unlike, say, Fry's, you don't have to wander around a big box for 30 minutes.

      The store on the east side of town is across the street from the senior complex where my father in law lives. He loses his TV remote control from time to time. Radio Shack has one that works with his RCA TV set with no programming and no codes. Just pop in batteries. [Of course I still have to come over to put the batteries in with the proper polarity.]

    16. Re:How do they stay in business? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      I always get esoteric batteries from Battery Bob. My first order never came and when he sent me an ad asking if I wanted to purchase anything else, I fired back an angry e-mail along the lines of "Why don't you ship my last order and then we'll talk?"

      The phone rang 3 minutes later. It was Battery Bob himself (an old guy from Florida). He apologized profusely for me not getting my ($5) order, and sent me $10 worth of batteries to make up for it. About 2 weeks later, I received a completely mangled envelope that had been retaped numerous times. It was my first order. I called him back and asked him if I could make it good. He said, "Just order all your unique batteries from me from now on and tell a friend." I've ordered lots of batteries from him since without a problem and his prices are pretty good.

      Anyway, I don't have any connection to him except for extremely satisfied customer, but since overpriced esoteric batteries from Radio Shack were mentioned, I thought I would give some well-deserved props.

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    17. Re:How do they stay in business? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      I worked at Radio Shack. There was no commission. Only for managers.

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    18. Re:How do they stay in business? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Hell, I've see Radio Shacks with worse computer hardware selections than a Walmart I know.

      And worse TV selections, and worse toy selections, and, well, worse selections of everything. (Well, they had identical selection in electronic components, e.g., none at all.)

      But they make up having half the selection with prices that were twice as high, so that all works out.

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    19. Re:How do they stay in business? by IgePanda · · Score: 1

      And when your paper, project, etc. is due Monday morning, and your CPU fan or PSU dies Friday night, you really have time for a online purchase...

      There are some things that you just have to have *now* and even if it costs you $5-10 more than the online item, having it after a 30 min drive and short walk is worth it.

      Your logic is sound, but one flaw. Do they carry CPU fans?

      In the super socket 7 days, in a pinch they had 90mm and 120mm. They did have one 40mm, but that was NOT an adequate replacement for anything above a 200mhz Pentium. Even talking socket A, your choice was limited to crappy 40mm, 80mm, 90mm, or 120mm. I've known people to use 120mm in a pinch until they could get something that worked.

      Personally, I just went to a big box computer store like CompUSA. They carry this shit, they are open on sundays, and the cost of the fan and sync was about equal to what ratshack charged for just the fan.

      Power supplies, you got me on that. They "might" carry some, but none near me, but they might. But in the 80s and 90s, they certainly did not.

      They were always a little achronistic in their selection, which worked perfectly if you were trying to fix old gear. Not so good if you were dealing with anything modern like a 8088/80286. Though they did eventually carry those 96pin edge card connectors right before PCI came out.

      I plan to hit them today for some Volt Meter ends.

      . I recently bought some Keystone RCA solder in jacks, which they actually have a decent price on, even if they are so out-of-date they don't carry colors for component video.

    20. Re:How do they stay in business? by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      The parts department is incredibly dense with those floor to ceitling fold out panels and everything, not like Frys where the store fixtures are about waist high.

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  21. Future uncertain by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Radio Shack used to be a decent outlet for common electronic parts, what I've referred to as "the 7-11 of electronics". Over the last 10-15 years it's been shifting away from that, and into something more like a micro version of Best Buy or Circuit City with some electronic parts. I guess the world is moving away from electronics as a hobby now, which is sad, but even though they're not as useful as they once were, I'd be sad to see Radio Shack disappear. Aside from the local Fry's, which despite the immense amount of aisle space they dedicate to it has a pathetic selection of electronic components, there isn't anywhere else you can just walk in and find what you might need. It would suck to have to mail-order everything you need when you might need it on the spur of the moment.

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    1. Re:Future uncertain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Radio Shack used to be a decent outlet for common electronic parts, what I've referred to as "the 7-11 of electronics".

      I think it comes down to the fact that it is easier and cheaper to sell small electronics components from a website store front than it is to stock them. From a cost/selection standpoint it's hard to compete...similar to Comp-USA.

      As for "The Shack", I have been calling it that for years but as an official name it seems silly and the surfing dog mascot they will have in the new commercials will be even sillier.

    2. Re:Future uncertain by tholomyes · · Score: 1

      What sucks is that I can't get a fucking 1/4" to 1/8" headphone adapter at Best Buy, even though they sell all kinds of devices and headphones that use both. They sent me to Radio Shack, but even then the only version of the adapter I could find was the gold-plated one. Still, it beats having to mail-order it; I, too, hope Radio Shack doesn't disappear.

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  22. Are there two more low-tech words by 93,000 · · Score: 3, Funny

    than 'radio' and 'shack'? Telegraph hut? Gramophone igloo? Victrola shed? . . .

    1. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Resonance S#!tcan!

    2. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hollow Log Cave

    3. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by himself · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wireless Yurt.

    4. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by scribblej · · Score: 1

      Uh, you're funny, but also you seem to failt o realize that Radio is still cutting-edge technology. Think Wi-Fi, think Bluetooth, think RFID (heck, that one even has RADIO in the name). Even your microwave oven is technically a radio, your cellphone is a radio... I could go on all day, but I think you get the point. If you think of "Radio" as your daddy's old AM/FM receiver, you have a very limited knowledge of Radio. Even if you think of Radio as your neighbor's ham setup, you're missing the big picture.

    5. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think of "Radio" as your daddy's old AM/FM receiver, you have a very limited knowledge of Radio.

      According to a lot of posts here, this would make him the perfect Radio Shack employee :D

    6. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by 93,000 · · Score: 1

      Ok, now that hurt.

    7. Re:Are there two more low-tech words by tresho · · Score: 1

      The Duller Image.

  23. Radio Shack = The Source = garbage by ravrazor · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack stores were all renamed "The Source [by Circuit City]" here in Canada after InterTan was bought by Circuit City a couple of years ago. I think they've recently all been bought by Bell to be set up to compete with the mall stores that every other cell provider has.
    You'll get over the name change. The "Radio Shack" brand never had extremely positive connotations (as far as I know), so they're not losing much. Name changes, brand identity...they're all junky stores staffed by uninformed people in low-cost malls no matter what you call them.

  24. Hmmm... by thisnamestoolong · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was actually thinking that if they were going to change one part of their name, calling the store a 'shack' is certainly more likely to turn away customers than implying that you sell radios... would you buy anything from the Computer Hovel? The Cell Phone Shanty? Meh... I won't be sad to see them go in any case, they have totally missed the opportunity to dominate the hobbyist market by making a half-assed attempt at edging into the mainstream.

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by Dracos · · Score: 1

      Don't forget they spent all that money protecting the Shack part of the name, when they sued AutoShack into changing their name to AutoZone.

    2. Re:Hmmm... by Captain+Spam · · Score: 1

      [...] would you buy anything from the Computer Hovel? The Cell Phone Shanty?

      The latter, not so much. The former... actually, yes. Implies hobbyists and an air of building your own system.

      Which, ironically, is where Radio Shack WAS back in The Day(tm), though more with raw electronics rather than computers, but now...

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    3. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, if they really want to go mainstream, they should rename themselves "HD Radio Shack" or "Radio Shack... in HD"

    4. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the hobbyist market doesnt pull enough revenue to support a corporation

  25. Cell Phone Shack by Xmastrspy · · Score: 1

    Last time I went into a Radio Shack "The Shack" to pick up some barrel connectors, the woman at the counter had no idea what I was talking about. When I spoke with the wandering sales kid, he at least knew were the tiny little bin of electronic components were. When I asked the kid, he made a joke about not knowing anything about electronic, but he could help me buy a cell phone.

    That was the last time I will go into a Radio Shack...

  26. Who cares? by cashman73 · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that the corporation is free to brand itself whatever it pleases. If they feel that they can justify the added expense of making new signs and advertising material with increased sales via the name change, more power to them. This re-branding doesn't seem nearly as stupid as this other one that just took place about a month ago,... ;-)

    1. Re:Who cares? by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 1

      Fortunately it's still called SciFi in the UK, which is good; I would have to stop watching it on principle if they renamed it to ScyFy.

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  27. The Internet has replaced them. by elementip · · Score: 1

    Online retailers, of course! Sparkfun, Vetco, Jameco, etc come to mind for most of my Radioshack type items that I need. In fact, I've ordered from the RadioShack website 3 times in the last year - During the same period, I've stepped into a RadioShack store exactly 0 Times. Once the stores focused on Cell phones, Direct TV, and Monster cable, they pretty much became dead to me.

    1. Re:The Internet has replaced them. by elementip · · Score: 1

      I should add - even drug stores seem to carry a stock of RCA cables / adapters / telephone batteries etc. Why even bother with Radio Shack anymore.

  28. Now instead of ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now instead of "Radio Scrap", it'll be named "The Scrap".
    Not much better... :D

  29. Not Taking it Far Enough! by Trifthen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Indeed, I believe they are being too conservative in this renaming. For regular customers of Radio Shack, we know the new name is too high class. The only possible remedy for this situation is to name the chain "Electronics Shanty," because we all know that's what they are.

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    1. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I believe they are being too conservative in this renaming. For regular customers of Radio Shack, we know the new name is too high class. The only possible remedy for this situation is to name the chain "Electronics Shanty," because we all know that's what they are.

      Electronics Shanty?

      If we're going to be honest we'll have to rename it the "Refuse Heap"

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    2. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      You're still not going far enough. It needs to be a total reinvention. They should call themselves "The" and leave it at that. That way they can sell hot dogs, hubcaps, insurance, and massages, as necessary.

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    3. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by autophile · · Score: 1

      "Electronics Shanty" is too high-class. "Electrics Hovel" is more like it.

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    4. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by TarrVetus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As employees, we called ourselves CellularShack and iPodHut. We couldn't satisfy the (once) dedicated customers and do-it-yourselfers that came to look through our dwindling electronics parts sections--all we could do was try to sell them an iPod or cellphone. It was a miserable feeling.

      Personally, I like GadgetHovel. It conjures ideas of Sharper Image and other overpriced random junk dealers, as well as uses "hovel," which captures the cheap and trashy feeling I get every time I go into a RadioShack.


      Maybe it's a good idea they're rebranding. To me, RadioShack ceased to exist long ago. At least the new name will make it clear to everyone.

    5. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      The only possible remedy for this situation is to name the chain "Electronics Shanty,"

      A traditional seafaring song played on a synthesiser? I don't get it.

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    6. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by Trifthen · · Score: 1

      Ok, I have to admit that Gadget Hovel made me LOL, and in general, I never, ever do that. Well played, sir!

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    7. Re:Not Taking it Far Enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RCA shed! Cellphone gazebo!

  30. Saw it on Wikipedia ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RadioShack#.22The_Shack.22_re-branding ...
    RadioShack is in the process of re-branding[citation needed] the company as "The Shack" as well as re-building corporate culture. This will be kicked off by a launch celebration in both San Francisco and New York featuring "14 foot tall laptops" streaming the images from their webcams from one city to the other, live music in both locations, as well as television coverage of the event.[13] The event will take place in Times Square and Justin Herman Plaza on August 6-8, 2009, starting each morning at 6AM Eastern and lasting until Midnight. In addition, "The Shack" began a telemarketing campaign on July 31, 2009, in which they call post-paid customers in the morning to inform them about upgrade eligibility. To help promote the remanding internally employees were given T-shirts, travel mugs, and EGrips all branded with the new "The Shack" logo. These internal promotional items were bundled with a 5 minute long, highly stylized and edited video with an introduction from the CEO explaining what "The Shack" is. ...

  31. (caution: game refernce) by The+Redster! · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think they should change their name to "Hz So Good."

    1. Re:(caution: game refernce) by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      When superconductors start to work at room temperature and everyone replaces all their old copper cables with superconducting ones they could specialise in selling those and rebrand themselves as "Resistance is Futile!"

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    2. Re:(caution: game refernce) by SailorMeeko · · Score: 1

      ...or Radio Shock: A Dandy Company

      This is what the store was called in the first version of SQ4 I bought - the 3.5" floppy version. Future versions of the game I bought had the store name changed to Hz So Good. Wonder why the change?

    3. Re:(caution: game refernce) by ab0mb88 · · Score: 1

      How about "ohmy god that's expensive"

    4. Re:(caution: game refernce) by The+Redster! · · Score: 1

      Supposedly "The Shack" got angry. I imagine the legal threats surfaced between the disk & CD-ROM releases(they were far apart).

    5. Re:(caution: game refernce) by pbhj · · Score: 1

      I think they should change their name to "Hz So Good."

      That is an awesome name for a robot wars bot. It must have crackling electric spark gaps though.

  32. You've got questions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...that's understandable.

  33. Well.. not sure if it's better than by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what is better.. "The Shack" or "Radio Shaq"

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  34. The City by Frankie70 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rebranding Circuit City as "The City" worked well for Circuit City?

    Is there some Consultant on the loose recommneding this?

    1. Re:The City by tiger32kw · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Pizza Hut, rebranding some of it's stores "The Hut".

      "The new "Hut" stores will be more than simply places to place a delivery order, according to MediaWeek. They will include televisions that broadcast programs such as "Wheel of Fortune" and "Entertainment Tonight."

      Ahh Entertainment Tonight, me and my friends haven't missed an episode in years. Laugh.

    2. Re:The City by scotts13 · · Score: 1

      The famous Franklin Institute in Philadelphia briefly renamed themselves "The Franklin" recently, so I suppose it IS the work of a single, rogue consultant. To me, a rename is either a presage to a major shift in business plan, or an attempt to run away from past sins. Neither wants to make me shop there.

  35. we have a good one here by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    It actually sells capacitors and whatnot in the little drawers. Most of the RadioShacks I've been in lately are all about ipods, wireless networking, and cell phones. I want a place to buy transistors in blister packs dammit !

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    1. Re:we have a good one here by n30na · · Score: 1

      In my experience, it's the mall ones that really suck. We have one near here that's just in a strip, and it still sells some useful things.

  36. Here's the link by manekineko2 · · Score: 1

    http://www.theonion.com/content/news/even_ceo_cant_figure_out_how

    I'm not normally a huge Onion fan, but this article is so spot-on, it brings a smile to my face every time I think of it.

  37. Umm... will Jesus talk to you there? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are they not aware of the connotation conjured up by the recent best seller in the "Creepy Christian Fiction" genre?

  38. The Shack? by whisper_jeff · · Score: 1

    I would think one would buy beef jerky or discount goods from a place called The Shack. They might want to hire a new marketing firm because the one they are using is giving them very bad advice...

  39. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the specialty stuff that RS used to sell is gone. The weird capacitors, fuses, doodads ect.. that couldn't be found anywhere else have just disappeared from the shelves. I suppose hobbyists use the Internet now. Also, the prices are way too high. I used to love the place, now it is useless.

  40. Where won't you go? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters no

    You can go just about anywhere for those. The closest Radio Shack to where I live is across the parking lot from a Home Depot, I can buy those items there. For that matter I think I can find a better selection of those items there.

    The only thing I can get at Radio Shack that I can't get anywhere else is ... OK I give up, what is it now?

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    1. Re:Where won't you go? by RoboRay · · Score: 1

      "The only thing I can get at Radio Shack that I can't get anywhere else is ... OK I give up, what is it now?"

      Quite useful analog SPL meters. Oh, wait.... They switched to crappy digital meters!

    2. Re:Where won't you go? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      The only thing I can get at Radio Shack that I can't get anywhere else is ... OK I give up, what is it now?

      Cellphones. Lots and lots and lots of cellphones. Can't buy those anywhere else.

      Oh, wait. I'm being told you can get those elsewhere, my bad.

      In fact, it appears cellphone companies actually have dedicated stores just to sell cell phones and services, with actual knowledgeable employees of said cellphone company, instead of Radio Shack employees who don't actually work for that cellphone company and don't know anything and have no ability to do anything except sell you new service.

      Apparently, in these stores, you can actually talk to real employees and find out all the plans that would be offered. You can change existing plans, you can add lines, you can do all sorts of stuff, whereas at Radio Shack you'll have trouble trying to do anything that isn't covered by their forms when buying a new plan...and don't even think of trying to change one.

      Oh, and I'm being that additionally said stores have a wider selection of cell phones than at Radio Shack, all of which are for that specific provider. And they carry a bunch of accessories, just like Radio Shack.

      But, and this is the really important thing...a Radio Shack might be slightly closer. You know, if you're one of those people who sign contracts for hundreds of dollars over multiple years...but are not willing to drive an extra ten miles to do so.

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  41. Yeah because it worked SO well for Pizza Hut by rehtonAesoohC · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Wait, did I say Pizza Hut? No no, I meant PASTA Hut... Riiiight, because everyone calls it Pasta Hut now.

    *Rolleyes*

    1. Re:Yeah because it worked SO well for Pizza Hut by maxume · · Score: 1

      They went from selling cheese and meat at mediocre margins to selling flour and water and pretty good margins. Seems like a decent plan to me.

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    2. Re:Yeah because it worked SO well for Pizza Hut by IMarvinTPA · · Score: 1

      I think our Pizza Hut is too poor to change its sign. IIRC, one side of the sign is still broken...

      IMarv

    3. Re:Yeah because it worked SO well for Pizza Hut by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

      Wait, what? Ours are all called WingStreets now.

      WTFWeird.

  42. Follow the money by JSBiff · · Score: 1

    I'm not surprised Radio Shack is re-branding itself. A) Radio is now 'old' technology, and doesn't have the 'cool' factor that once it did; B) As the parent points out, their business has largely changed. It's hard to find any radio's in a radio shack (I think you can find maybe a couple Ham radios, and a few unlicensed 2-way radios, and maybe some ridiculously over-priced stereo's and home theater systems, but largely their business and profits come from selling cell phones, computer accessories, toys, cables and batteries - radio is really not a 'focus' of their business any more; C) As time goes on, and tech progresses, they will have to keep going from one declining market to the 'next big thing', so it really doesn't make sense to have any particular technology in the name of the company, as it too, will eventually become obsolete, and not reflect the company's business anymore.

    So, "The Shack" seems as reasonable a name change as any. It at least keeps *some* continuity with the established brand, while chucking the historical 'baggage'.

  43. Ghetto Radio Shacks will rebrand as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rizzle Shizzle.

  44. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by lbmouse · · Score: 1

    Give them a break... they've left about 6 inches of shelf space in the very very far back of each store for one-of-a-kind electrical components and equipment.

  45. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by gid · · Score: 1

    Haha, spot on. Radio Shack, I mean RadioShack, I mean The Shack used to be the place to go to get specialty cables and all sorts of crazy gadgets and what not as a kid. Now I can't remember the last time I stepped foot in the store, I think it was when they wanted to charge me $30 for a super special gold plated component video cable. I left and went to WalMart and got the same thing for half the price.

  46. Joe's Crab & Electronics Shack by argent · · Score: 1

    This is a pre-emptive move to keep Joe's Crab Shack from expanding into electronics kits in their kid's meals.

  47. Why? Was "The Outhouse" already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheesh, the "SyFy"-ification of branding.

  48. The radio industry is dying... by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

    DJs getting laid-off all over the place (my town has no DJs between 6 pm and 6 am). Music programmed by a computer set to automatic. More-and-more people using iPods to create their own music playlists... virtual stations in a pocket.

    I don't blame "The Shack" for wanting to distance itself from radio.

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    1. Re:The radio industry is dying... by psychokitten · · Score: 1

      No DJs between 6pm and 6am? You don't know how truly lucky you are. I -wish- our radio stations had no DJs for any period of time, you get more of their inane babbling (whatever happened to entertaining, witty DJs?) than you get music. I'm just glad there's a Jack FM station here so I can at least hear SOME music on the radio.

    2. Re:The radio industry is dying... by onemorechip · · Score: 1

      I'm just glad there's a Jack FM station here

      Yeah, there's nothing like the lack of a human touch in broadcasting.

      I can't stand the grating "morning zoo" type of programming. But, once upon a time (late 60s, early 70s), there were DJs that played music they liked rather than from some corporate playlist, in a format called "progressive radio" (later displaced by AOR and the like), and it was cool.

      Lately I've been listening a bit to The Sound (Los Angeles, 100.3) which has DJs who don't waste time with "inane babbling" and way fewer commercials (at least it seems that way) than KLOS. (I could go for a bit less 80s music in their programming, I'll admit.) Sunday nights on KCRW (Santa Monica, 89.9) I enjoy Gary Calamar's "Open Road". I was in Portland not long ago. KINK FM is good there (and I often listen to their stream when online).

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    3. Re:The radio industry is dying... by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      I don't know. I miss the DJ that used to come-on at 6 p.m. and take personal requests until about 10. He was goofy, but never boring.

      Now the radio sounds about as interesting as my iPod, except the music isn't as good. I think going with an all-music/no DJ format is a mistake that will drive people away from radio.

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  49. For those with an historical bent by dtmos · · Score: 5, Informative

    The term "radio shack" was coined in the early 20th Century, when shipping companies began to add radio to their vessels. Since the ships were already built, the extra room for the radio equipment had to be added -- there was typically no existing space with both access to the antenna (i.e., above deck) and the necessary electrical power from the ship's plant. (The audible noise from the spark equipment of the day also meant that the equipment, which was used largely at night, couldn't be placed near the officers' sleeping quarters.) Paid for out of operating expenses by the frugal shipowners, these added rooms were typically small and poorly constructed, often from wood, and the term "radio shack" quickly followed.

    New ship construction, of course, included a purpose-built room for the radio equipment, still called the "radio shack." Even the Queen Elizabeth 2 has a radio shack. The term quickly moved ashore -- amateur radio stations are in shacks, for example -- and "radio shack" came to mean the place where all the equipment was. From there, commercial use soon followed.

  50. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by Gkeeper80 · · Score: 3, Funny
  51. Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an RS employee, I can confirm this. Apparently in several places, people have been calling it "the shack" for a long time.

    It should be noted that the official name of the company isn't changing, just the "brand image" or some such marketing gobbledygook. I believe the rollout for the new name will start sometime in August, but I'm not sure.

    Personally, I think it's stupid. "Radio Shack" may not be the most descriptive name for the company any more, but there's gotta be something better than "The Shack".

  52. Radioshack is profitable by EsJay · · Score: 5, Informative
    While you are all spelling out exactly why RadioShack can't succeed (they don't stock flux capacitors!!!), the company is busy making money. They were in the black last year, too.

    Ft Worth Business Press - August 03, 2009 - [RadioShack] posted an about 18 percent increase in net income over second quarter 2008's $41.4 million, according to the financial statement. During the quarter, the company also posted cash and cash equivalents of $931 million, compared with $578 million last year, and inventories of $578 million, about $41 million less than the same quarter last year.

    1. Re:Radioshack is profitable by canajin56 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, yeah, $41 million in a quarter seems like a lot of net income, but remember, that's only like 4 of their god damned monster cables.

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  53. check out BrandNew by deviator · · Score: 1

    BrandNew details companies going through logo redesigns or branding shifts. Lately, it would seem (subjectively) that many companies, specifically from the retail & financial sectors, seem to think rebranding will fix their problems with market share or profitability. I would seem to think it had more to do with the economy in general, but clearly coming up with a snazzy new logo or branding message will magically increase profits just as easily.

    (BrandNew is a great blog because even very large companies with unlimited resources often get it *very wrong*)

  54. Look at their history by lbmouse · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack to try re-branding in an attempt to save another failing business segment?? Never! Tandy... Optimus... Realistic... Duofone... Accurian... Archer... Presidian... Auvio... etc... It seems like the only thing they are good at is branding.

  55. Lance Armstrong is gonna be pissed by sir_eccles · · Score: 4, Funny

    He just created a new cycling team called Team RadioShack and will have to change the name to match, he had the t-shirts printed and everything.

    1. Re:Lance Armstrong is gonna be pissed by hammarlund · · Score: 0

      So now it will be called Team Shack. Maybe they can get the B-52s to do some kind of theme music for their appearances?

    2. Re:Lance Armstrong is gonna be pissed by chisquare · · Score: 1

      ... but he still gets to use this bitchin' communication system supplied by The Shack for talking to the team director during a race (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3247541). They'll tuck it in the rear of his time trial helmet.

  56. Re:Well.. not sure if it's better than by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

    "The Shack". Otherwise they'd have to pay big licensing fees to Shaquille O'Neil.

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  57. Location, location, location by JSBiff · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Basically, what the parent says - RadioShack might have smaller locations, but they have *more* locations than *anybody* else (except, maybe soon, Walmart; I really wonder if Walmart is having any impact on RS's business - I bet they are a bigger problem than the Internet for RS). They're everywhere - even in strip malls in little out-of-the-way semi-rural areas. They might not have everything, but they have lots of adapters and cables to get things hooked up ("Oh, we got this new HDTV and we want to use it now, but we need a stupid adaptor which wasn't included with the device").

    Radio Shack is convenient, and expensive. The expensive allows them to stay profitable with so many locations, the convenience makes them compelling for lots of 'small' purchases where, yeah, maybe Radio Shack is charging 50 percent more than anyone else, but it's a difference between $10 and $15 and people decide the extra $5 is just worth it to get the thing now.

  58. Fry's is better now anyways by photon317 · · Score: 1

    I used to lament the fact that Radio Shack was going downhill and not doing nearly as good a job as they used to about selling actual electronic components and kits and manuals (like the old Forrest Mims books, and actual chips and resistors and board etching kits and such). Then we got a Fry's in town, and it blew Radio Shack outta the water. Way bigger selection of electronics components. Bye bye Radio Shack. I miss the old you, but I won't miss the decaying corpse you've become lately.

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  59. Changes needed by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite honestly, they are trying to compete against established bigger companies that have gone out of businesses. By doing all made electronic gadgets, they are hurting themselves. OTH, they could go in a different direction. How about selling not just electronic parts, but items for building ideas? The reason that I suggest that, is that America used to have an infrastructure that made it possible to build a number of gadgets, ideas, etc. That is slowly going away. For example, radio shack no longer has the ability to build computers. And the capabilities to breadboard things is minimal. BUT, if they put together kits for learning from, and then made it possible to order on-line and simply pick up the parts in a couple of days at a local shack they would go far. Also, at the same time, they should consider targeting items such as adding speakers to a house. And why not offer innovative products. Heck, at this time, they would be wise to ask for new patentable ideas to be made by Americans (or at least in the west) and sold here.

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    1. Re:Changes needed by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1
      I'd like to think that learning-electronics-kits would work. But I don't think it would because nobody would be interested.

      Some people do hobbies for fun, but commercially viable hobby work seems to be in areas that are still developing rapidly enough that many individuals can make useful contributions to the state of the art. I think electronics has passed this point, with wide use of ultra-small components and tight coupling of software and hardware (fpga's.) So now electronics is where blacksmithing was in the 1930's and manual lathes and mills in the 1970's: the few people who can still do relevant work already are doing it, and nobody really thinks their kids could have a good future in the industry when there are so many more attractive careers.

      I'm saying that as someone who is very interested in blacksmithing, lathes, and electronics.

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    2. Re:Changes needed by LoRdTAW · · Score: 1

      The problem with that very few people today want to tinker with a simple computer that consists of ROM chips and a simple CPU. They are used to doing things like surfing the web, watching you tube videos and play graphically intense games. People have become desensitized to technology. When I was growing up simple computer systems like the Apple II and the PC clones were amazing. When in college and working on building simple 8086 projects it was not only nostalgic but really fun at the same time. Now try to tell a kid how cool it is to burn a ROM with a simple assembly program that read in data from dip switches and displayed the output on LEDs. It will eave them bored and unimpressed when they compare it to their quad core systems with GPU's churning out over a terraflop of single precision number crunching power to their high def screens.

      Also look at electronics. It used to be a big time hobby for geeks but those were the days when it was cheaper to build it than but it. Everything was analog and components for analog systems were easily purchased and assembled. There was even a time when you built your own computer from kits or designed your own using dozens of TTL chips, a CPU, ROM chips and a few Kb of RAM chips. Today it is impossible to hand build a motherboard for a modern CPU and support logic. Pin count is in the hundreds for simple support chips and CPUs plus their support logic have over a thousand needing tight tolerances for trace length and line impedance to handle the gigahertz signals flowing through them. Plus add to that the fact that small SMT, QFP and BGA chip packages makes soldering a near impossible task.

      And how many of these new LCD TV's, home theater systems and Bluray players are serviceable? Many of the electronic gadgets sold today are full of ASICS soldered to large motherboards full of QFP and BGA chips. Remember when TV's were easily serviceable? Picture messed up? Just try and tweak the pots to compensate for component drift or replace a bad transistor or capacitor. Gone are those days. Servicing them consists of determining what board is defective and replacing it. Its mostly throw away stuff now. Just try and order a schematic for that new LCD TV or Bluray player. What about the numerous electronic repair shops that existed? 15 years ago I could have counted the number on two hands that were within walking distance. Now there are none. Some tried to adapt by also adding computer servicing but they eventually failed. Why? Simple, big box retailers (Best Buy etc.) and computer makers (Dell, Gateway etc.) offer in-house/on-site repair or replacement for most items. Most of the time they just give you a new one and be done with it. The broken ones are shipped back to the manufacturer and repaired or junked and then sold as refurbished for a discount.

      The electronics hobbyist died a long time ago. Sure there are still people practicing but the number of young people and children interested is dwindling. Schools by me that used to teach electronics and engineering have dropped the courses because there is little interest, funding and teachers to teach it. By me there is a lone electronics shop still in business. Every time I go in there its like walking back in time 20+ years. You still see components in packaging from the 80's covered in a film of dust. The owner still writes receipts on the old mechanical receipt machine that spits out the carbon copy when he pulls a lever. Its an old building and he have been there for over 30 years, its amazing he is still there.

      Here is some food for thought: I learned about electric motors and generators back in my shop classes including winding and servicing. How many people today could even construct the most basic and necessary electric component of them all: a generator?

  60. Of Any Other Name. by Usually+Unlucky+ · · Score: 2, Informative

    There was a chain of porn shops around Baltimore called "The Shack" so the name will have some hilarious connotations here.

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  61. RadioShack needs to get rid of middle managers by Dan667 · · Score: 1

    They are expensive and come up with this kind of stuff that is hurting their business. So save money dumping corp middle managers and go back to their nitch selling electronic parts and equipment and get people in the stores that know about electronics. And stop asking for phone numbers, I stopped going just because of that and drive to Fry's even though it is a long way from me.

  62. Can't be much worse than SYFY by burtosis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nuff' said.

    1. Re:Can't be much worse than SYFY by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      No doubt about that. The consultant hey hired that gave them that idea must of been a 17 year old haxor.

    2. Re:Can't be much worse than SYFY by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

      Yes, syphilis is quite nasty.

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  63. My favorite reference from an old /. posting: by DutchUncle · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Radio Shack. You've got questions; we've got blank stares."

    1. Re:My favorite reference from an old /. posting: by DonkeySpew · · Score: 1

      Just removing my misplaced 'informative' mod.

  64. The Shack, Baby The Shack by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Funny
    Maybe their tin roof,, rusted.

    With apologies to the B-52s

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  65. What's Next by JaneTheIgnorantSlut · · Score: 1

    Will /. be rebranded "The Slash"? Or "The Dot"?

  66. Re: competitors by macraig · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The competitors of the traditional Radio Shack were not the likes of Ace Hardware, and only marginally were they stores like BestBuy or CompUSA. Radio Shack didn't sell hardware for mechanical engineering, like an Ace Hardware store; it sold hardware for electr(ical|onic) engineering. Its competitors were other electronics hobbyist and surplus stores, like Dow Electronics, Marvac Electronics, HSE Electronics, and so on.

    Truth be told, though, Radio Shack's biggest competition came from the atrophy of that market. Over the last three decades, steadily more people have become consumers of electronics and stopped being creators or engineers of it. That is why Radio Shack transitioned from selling components to selling "pre-fab" products; they couldn't compete with those other stores in a dwindling market, and some of those other hobbyist stores have disappeared altogether. Could they have created an advertising campaign that would single-handedly have reinvigorated the hobbyist component market? I doubt it.

    That said, this alleged re-branding is even more idiotic than Pacific Bell spending $750,000 to re-brand itself as Pacific Telesis Group (that was just the bill from the ad agency that came up with the name, not the total cost of the name change). "The Shack" isn't edgy or funny, it's just weird and dumb, especially because it will say NOTHING descriptive about the current business model or product offerings.

  67. I would expect nothing less... by Rageon · · Score: 1

    ...from the company that makes a point of discontinuing every decent product they've ever made. Examples include: the Minimus speaker (mine are 25 years old and work great), the Linaeum tweeter, the Optimus CD-3400 portable CD player, and the original analog SPL meter.

    1. Re:I would expect nothing less... by j0se_p0inter0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, they're pretty good at eliminating just about any decent product in the store. Those Linaeum tweeters were great, I'm really surprised that they've not reappeared in other products. Years ago when they were ditching all of their Optimus home theater products (which was the last good stereo lineup they've had), I bought the whole set on clearance at a bargain price: 12" floor speakers, 500 watt receiver, Linaeum center channel and satellites, big honkin' subwoofer, 100 disc changer. It's still working great to this day and sounds awesome. After that they started their crappy partnership with RCA which bombed a few years later, and have never had any good audio equipment since. And that's just one example of the idiotic business decisions they've made. How they're still around is anyone's guess. Even when I worked there I couldn't figure out how the company managed to exist, let alone look good in financial papers. They're really an enigma in the electronics world.

  68. If changing names was so great... by tjstork · · Score: 1

    Then it would have worked for GM and Ford and Chrysler, who rolled out a new name every time they made a new car. Alan Mullally famously just put a stop to this at Ford, pointing out what everyone else has been saying, that Toyota has been using Camry and Corolla now for decades... Don't change the name...

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  69. Alternative name change by macraig · · Score: 1

    How about "Dandy Tandy"? It's just as dumb and nondescript, but at least it's lyrical.

  70. Even Radio Shack's CEO is amazed... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 1
  71. Shoulda called it "Rental Shack"... by j0se_p0inter0 · · Score: 1

    That's what we used to cal it back when I worked there. They have a pretty lax return policy which is often heavily abused. People come in, buy a radar detector, camcorder, digicam, etc. They take it with them on a vacation or other event and bring it back when they're done. As long as the packaging is in good shape, they have a receipt, and it's within 30 days, we had to accept it. My manager would frequently try to fight it, even complaining to corporate, but of course nothing happened. Towards the end of my time there, when people would walk in with an item all boxed up, receipt in hand, smiling, I'd just ask "So, have a good vacation"?

  72. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
    I went into the one near me recently (well, not that recently; it closed about a year ago) and was amazed at how shiny it was. The one I remember from when I was growing up was just going through the transition. In the front it had a few pre-fabricated things, like radio controlled cars. In the middle (the bit I liked as a child) it had things like electronics sets, the kind with a load of components on a card board with springs soldered to all of the connections so you could join them together and make circuits with no soldering (and a big book of things you could make with the set) and at the back it had components for people who actually knew what they were doing (i.e. not me, aged 7).

    Over the years, the section in the middle shrank, the section at the front expanded, and once it had absorbed the space at the front it started taking up the space at the back. When I visited the local one a year or so ago, this change was complete; it now only stocked the things from the front of the store. I think, at the time, I was looking for a fuse; eventually I discovered that my local hardware store sold them. If I wanted to buy electronic components these days I'd probably look online first, so I'm not sure how a brick-and-mortar store can be expected to stay in business.

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  73. You're tellin me! by John+Pfeiffer · · Score: 1

    We used to have a RadioShack across the street...but it was little more than a place to buy gadgets and sign up for cellular service. There's one out towards the edge of town, but it's part of a TrueValue hardware store and we were lucky to find goddamn Hook-Up Wire, much less anything else. (In fact, it was little more than a RadioShelf) I'm actually amazed beyond words that they even carried any veroboard. The last time I saw a RadioShack that actually carried things like resistors and diodes was more than ten years ago.

    RadioShack is an icon of my childhood. Growing up with a geek dad who was always tinkering and building, those blue-carded blisterpacks of RadioShack and Archer-branded components were everywhere. But frankly, even if RadioShack were still 'alive'...the vast majority of my electronics work is surface mount, and what components and supplies I don't order from China for fractions of a cent on the dollar, I order from Digi-Key. That said, it is still the 'End of An Era' as far as I'm concerned and really something the geek community should be mourning.

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  74. Radio Shack... 10-15 years ago? More like 25-30.. by Tetsujin · · Score: 2, Informative

    I couldn't help but think if this was 10, 15 years ago not only would I not have gotten a blank stare, if it was that slow they might have offered to even make it while i was there.

    Nah, that's not quite far enough back... At least, not in the Radio Shacks I'm familiar with. In the mid-Nineties the stores were roughly as they are now. Maybe fewer cell phones and more VCRs and DVD players, but the reduction of the parts section and the blank stare effect were in full force at that point.

    Mid to late 1980s you might have had better luck. I still can't imagine the folks at Radio Shack building anything for me, but they'd be happy to show me their selection of soldering irons...

    Honestly, though, while the hobbyist aspect of Radio Shack has declined a lot since I was a kid, I have been impressed from time to time with what they do have. For instance, they carry a kit + activity book to help people learn to use microcontrollers. That's damn cool IMO. I never would have thought I'd see such a thing in Radio Shack these days: from about 1995 onward I've been pretty cynical about them due to the vast reduction in the parts section.

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  75. There is a Radio in your Carphone. by tepples · · Score: 3, Funny

    Same for "Carphone Warehouse" in the UK, they don't want to lose the recognition despite the fact no-one has called a cell/mobile phone a car phone in 2 decades. [...] [RadioShack] should REALLY look and see if the number of people who say "I don't need a radio I won't go there" might be outnumbered

    FACT: There is a Radio in your TV. There is a Radio in your Wi-Fi laptop. In fact, there is a Radio in your Carphone.

    1. Re:There is a Radio in your Carphone. by CarpetShark · · Score: 0

      FACT: There is a Radio in your TV. There is a Radio in your Wi-Fi laptop. In fact, there is a Radio in your Carphone.

      Except that, by the COMMONly accepted definition of "radio", that's all untrue ;)

      I'd love "hacker" to mean what it used to mean, and for ignorant to be understood as someone who ignores information, rather than someone who is stupid. However, language changes, and we all have to change with it.

    2. Re:There is a Radio in your Carphone. by Bob-taro · · Score: 1

      FACT: There is a Radio in your TV. There is a Radio in your Wi-Fi laptop. In fact, there is a Radio in your Carphone.

      Are you suggesting they change the name to "TV Laptop Carphone Shack"?

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    3. Re:There is a Radio in your Carphone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would make a great ad campaign for Radio Shack.

      scene: teen talking on cellphone, she says
      "Radios?! Who uses those anymore? Thats so old!"
      scene freezes, zooms into cellphone, giant red stamp over the phone says:
      *RADIO*

      scene: guy on a laptop
      "Radios, what is this, 1950? Hahaha..."
      zooms into the laptop...
      *RADIO*

      scene: guy in a car using a GPS, turns to camera and says
      "Radio Shack, who uses radios these days?"
      zooms into the GPS...
      *RADIO*

      "Radio is everywhere!"

    4. Re:There is a Radio in your Carphone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly! Most people do not think about it or even realize just how many radios that they use every day. Your microwave is a radio. Your cordless/cell phone is a radio. o is your TV. In fact, just about anything that is labeled wireless is a radio of some sort (the exception being devices using LED or laser technology). Many devices use radio frequencies. These include the cable modem that connects you to the internet, wired Ethernet cards, and computer CPUs. There are not many electronic devices that don't have some sort of computer built into them these days.

      BTW, Locally Radio Shack is refered to as Cell Phone Shack, or just shit shack.

  76. Not as bad as it sounds by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    As it stands, most people would rather get their electronics from a hobo in a dumpster than from Radioshack. Changing their name to 'The Shack' would undoubtedly tap this rich (well, sort of) market.

  77. Missing the point of the brand... by tjstork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It used to be that if you walked into a Radio Shack and saw a bunch of TRS-80 computers, a wall full of electronic parts, total geeks working behind the counter, you might get the impression that the TV's and Stereos that they carried were pretty good stuff, because the whole store screams geek.

    By getting rid of the geeky electronics image, they've kinda undermined their consumer electronics brand... were I a consumer electronics retailer, I would carry a mix of hobbyist equipment and just let it sit on the shelves, and premium products, and I'd bet one could establish a brand.... I mean, if Home Depot can make 100B a year selling the idea that you build a deck yourself, why not have people put together their own PCs and LCD tvs...

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    1. Re:Missing the point of the brand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Just imagine if you could walk into a Radio Shack and have a selection of stuff like what you can get from Digikey and Newegg combined. That would totally kick ass. Very often I run into issues when ordering computer parts and the various electronic parts I need for projects because I can't physically handle the item. That makes be hesitant to order stuff and often I end up not even doing the project because I'm not sure if it will work without me wasting a bunch of time and money. I would pay extra at a brick and mortar store that carried these various components.

      I mean being able to just browse and physically handle the hardware available from something like Digikey would have me buying all sorts of crap I didn't know I needed.

      Maybe that's not a popular idea, I don't know. I sure as hell would like it though.

    2. Re:Missing the point of the brand... by unfasten · · Score: 1

      Just imagine if you could walk into a Radio Shack and have a selection of stuff like what you can get from Digikey and Newegg combined. That would totally kick ass.

      Just add a Hackerspace in the back and it would be perfect.

      P.S. To any prospective business out there, I, and I'm sure the Anonymous Cowardon above, would be perfectly fine with you stealing this idea and implementing it. It's encouraged.

    3. Re:Missing the point of the brand... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      I don't know about the LCD TVs, but their idiocy in the 90s stopped them from being a leader in the custom-built PC area.

      Seriously, can you imagine if Radio Shack had transitioned from electronic components, not to idiotic radio-controlled-cars and cellphones, but to computer components?

      Yeah, the stores were sorta small for that, but they could have pulled it off.

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    4. Re:Missing the point of the brand... by Elbowgeek · · Score: 1

      Indeed they occasionally had some excellent audio equipment back in the 70s and early 80s. It was kind of a mixed bag though dependent on where they sourced the components, but they did carry one of the very first receivers with an LED readout, which happened to be manufactured by Sherwood I believe. It had FET outputs which gave a really warm, sweet sound at 60 real watts per channel, similar to tube sound.

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  78. Rat Shack Shuffle by tunapez · · Score: 1

    Don't know why I keep going, (it's 2 blocks from the house, the staff rarely has a clue when I call and letdown is 99.9% assured), but I've been in the Shack 3 times in the last year or so. Every time they did not have what I needed(LED, Cap, ps jack) in that store, but they had the part at another store in another part of town. Rather than run around like a rat looking for the cheese, however, Fry's and Capital Supply are closer than the other stores.

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  79. Now I'm confused... by charleste · · Score: 1

    So do I get pizza at The Shack and headphones at The Hut? Or is it diodes at Jabba the Hut, and chicken wings at SleezeShack?

    PS My local Radio Shack (space intended) does still sell bread boards and many of the fixin's - plus an encyclopaedia sized catalog for special orders.

  80. Rather specialist? by digitig · · Score: 1
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  81. RadShack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always call it RadShack and even under a rebrand probably always will.. Don't think I have said the full name Radio Shack in forever.. lol

  82. "You've got questions..." by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1

    "The Shack: You've got questions...
    We've got cellphones."

  83. pot and phone phreaking? by Fatalv · · Score: 1

    So I'll be able to buy pot AND phone phreaking paraphernalia in the same store????? Sweet!!

    1. Re:pot and phone phreaking? by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

      You could always buy potentiometers there.

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  84. Serves them right... by denzacar · · Score: 1
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  85. Rebrand to "Bob's Mobile Phone" by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

    Because that's their primary business now, apparently...

  86. Radio Shack: I'm not dead yet. by DieByWire · · Score: 1, Redundant

    No Radio Shack article is complete without The Onion's business analysis.

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  87. Re:Radio Shack... 10-15 years ago? More like 25-30 by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

    It's about as far back as I can remember...heh.

    And ok, maybe in reality they wouldn't have actually made it, but it's the feeling I got from the Radio Shack my dad would take me to.

    Stark contrast from the one I went to last week.

  88. Bad Idea by Innovative1 · · Score: 1

    I can see why they would do this. When I worked there people used to complain all the time that it is still called Radio Shack even though they really do not carry radios anymore. Back in the day it was a great store for car stereos and ham radio enthusiasts. Now they cater to neither. However, rebranding will likely hurt them more than help. Perhaps instead of rebranding they should once again stock some radios. They still have a ton of people who come in there looking for them.

  89. The old high school party spot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in the late 80's in WV, the place to go hang out and drink under age was the parking lot of the empty warehouse behind the RadioShack. The place for drinking was nicknamed "The Shack". So, the name change is very appropriate, it is still a place to spend too much on cheap product that makes you feel sick.

  90. This makes sense. by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    the radio shacks by my house stopped stocking components years ago. If I wanted a soldering iron or 1/4" phono jacks, I would have to get them from the website.

    Now, they stock plenty of cell phones and weather radios and television antennas, and other goofy consumer electronics.

    So much for the radio part of the name.

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  91. Adapers by MindStalker · · Score: 1

    "Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?"

    You buy them at monoprice.com duh.
    (They don't have a soldering iron, but they do have a 23pcs PC toolkit that includes a crappy one.

    1. Re:Adapers by fnj · · Score: 1

      Duh. Way to miss the point. The O.P. asked "where" as in location. You know, like when you walk out of the basement and drive somewhere. It's Friday night. You've got 48 hours, plenty of time to do what you need to do if you can get the stuff NOW, but not enough time to SEND for something. Because guess what? Even with an overnight order at enormous shipping cost, there's no Saturday delivery, dude!

      And no, if I need a soldering iron, I'm NOT going to buy a 23 piece toolset to get one. Not even if the cost is the same. Because I don't need the other 22 tools, I know I won't throw them away or find someone to give them to, and I don't want the accumulated dreck gradually choking the life out of my living space.

    2. Re:Adapers by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      I know I know.. You should be able to get this stuff at a hardware store as well. Either way Radio Shack is dying a slow death..

  92. An indicator by Mister_IQ · · Score: 1

    As an indicator of what they've become... I was in "The Source" (the Canadian re-branding of Radio Shack) a few days ago looking for a headphone adapter, and when I entered the store, the clerk and the sole other customer were having a conversation about the merits of a motorized barbeque brush. It's one of those "Look, it's a cheap crappy gift already packaged in a box for you to give someone!" things that RadShack carries, but this guy was looking at it for himself. It's a rotating treadmill thing with a handle and steel wool on the treadmill so when you press the trigger it scrubs the barbeque for you. It takes 6 (six!) D cells. The guy asked if it was any good, and the clerk replied "Yeah, it has lots of power, it worked really well.". A motorized barbeque brush. Ooooohkay then. Oh, Radioshack, what have you become?

  93. Radio Hut by Majestix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been calling it Radio Hut for the longest time!

    Its not like this rebranding will make the products any better or cheaper. But what do i know.

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  94. RS Sucks by acoustix · · Score: 1

    This isn't a flame. RS really does suck. They are a spec of what they used to be. I can't go into stores and buy components anymore - actually it's been at least 10 years since I could buy electronic components. RS is all about gadgets anymore. They sell cheap electronics that I can get at 100 other stores. The problem is that I can't get resistors, capacitors, switches, LED's, displays, etc at RS anymore. So how is RS different from the big box retailers? They're not...except that they're smaller.

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    1. Re:RS Sucks by HikingStick · · Score: 1

      So how is RS different from the big box retailers? They're not...except that they're smaller.

      ...and they are more expensive.

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  95. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by Beorytis · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up! I thought of this story immediately.

  96. stupid idea by Mindstate · · Score: 0

    radioshack, listen up. I don't visit your store very often, maybe once a year or less. max. i think a lot of people are the same way. also, i move probably every couple of years. so, when i need something small and simple (come to think of it, i need a cheap rca to stereo 1/8" adapter right now) I look on my maps app on my iphone for the nearest RADIOSHACK. if there isn't one, I go to best buy and spend way more money than i should have. I will not remember to search for "The Shack", and no one else will either, especially those who don't hear about the news on sites like this. Lastly, if you are counting on customers driving by and saying "hey look! it's like radioshack but it's a different name. lets go check it out!" i think you're sadly mistaken. I believe a lot of people think like me, in that they do not think favorably of rip-off chains who try to associate themselves with better-known chains and this is exactly what I would think if I saw "The Shack" on the side of the road. I'd think it was some worthless ripoff of a once popular chain. save your money on branding, and just clean your stores up and focus on hiring people who know what the hell it is you sell.

  97. Oooooh! OOOooooh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have one Mistah Kottah!!!

    HORSESHACK!

  98. Anyone remember RadioShack vs Bianca's Smut Shack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back in the mid 90's Radio Shack decided that they owned the word "shack" since it was part of their trademark and decided to sue a site(maybe it was a BBS, I forget many of the specifics) called Bianca's Smut Shack because of this.

    I remember emailing what I think was the CEO to tell him that he needed to reread trademark law a bit to understand he had no claim on a single and common word but he, in his infinite wisdom, asserted that he was indeed correct and was going to continue with the lawsuit despite the fact I wouldn't be going to the Rat Shack ever again. I then remember reading about a year later that Radio Shaft had lost the lawsuit and that Bianca was free to spread smut. So he lost the lawsuit and my repeat business. Good going there, buddy.

    That said, I think they'll try this shit again if given the opportunity. And since "The Shack" may be their name, they'll probably get really aggressive with trying to protect it much like M o nster Cab le and their asshole attorneys have been doing in the past. Yeah, that cable company doesn't get my money either.

  99. Radio Shack's origins by whizbang77045 · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack started as a mail order electronics company. I believe it was in Mass somewhere. In 1963, they got the idea of opening retail stores. It's been downhill since. We should probably have a contest for best (or worst) Radio Shack experiences. Mine was in the l;ate 1960s, when I overheard a clerk, holding a very small transistor radio, maybe 3" square, with built-in speaker, and telling a potential buyer: "Now, this radio has the finest sound of any small radio I've seen."

  100. Asking Customers For Phone Numbers... by Xin+Jing · · Score: 1

    This was always a point of contention with Radioshack, asking for my phone number at the register during checkout. I found it to be a bit invasive and unnecessary and quite frankly, they should have been glad I walked in the door to patronize their business. To be fair, it wasn't the employee's fault. I'm sure it was some software prompt that corporate mandated to track customer loyalty. I don't want to be tracked, polled or tabulated when I buy a gold-plated mini-jack y-splitter.

  101. Tone dialers and payphones..... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 1

    Back in the days when payphones were still ubiquitous, Radio Shack used to sell a pocket-sized tone dialer that was VERY easy to convert into an illegal device (called a "red box") that would allow you to make free calls from a payphone. All that was needed was to open the thing up and replace the original timebase crystal with a different frequency. The replacement crystal wasn't an off-the-shelf item at RS, but they supposedly could special-order it for you.

    Rumor had it that if you ordered the crystal at the same time you bought the dialer, the store would give your info to the cops or the phone company.

    No idea if it was true or not, because I just ordered the crystals from DigiKey or Jameco, myself. Made a fair amount of money in high school selling those modified tone dialers....

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  102. Rebranded in Canada by Alethes · · Score: 1

    Radioshack in Canada is now The Source from Circuit City.

  103. Letter to Corporate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Below is a copy of a snail-mail letter which I mailed just now to the Corporate Offices.

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    RadioShack Corporate Offices
    Riverfront Campus World Headquarters
    300 RadioShack Circle
    Fort Worth, TX 76102-1964

    Dear Sirs:

    Recently I chanced upon some information suggesting that your organization may be considering a name change to âoeThe Shack.â

    I, being not a fan of the dumbing down of America, feel obligated to stress that this is a horrible idea.

    I often roll my eyes when I hear of an otherwise successful organization making a boneheaded move like this. The Radio Shack brand was, at one point in time, somewhat respected. Please do not throw away the last shred of intelligence, by naming your once-great establishment after a single syllable word of first-grade reading level.

    The name âoeThe Shackâ brings to my mind's eye the mental picture of a toothless, black, ignorant, idiot; one who feels more comfortable with the shortened simplified name, only because it is so far easier to use only a single word; a word that can be expressed in a single grunt, if necessary.

    While your component selection has been reduced to a few bins of overpriced parts, delegated to the back of the store, and your main business model now seems to be that of a cellular retailer, you still have at least some credibility. Like a washed-up sports star or nursing-home-enslaved actor of another era, your brand still has some small respect, if only because it was once something special.

    Reducing your stores' names to single-syllable words that rhyme with a cough or gag will accomplish what years of mismanagement and bad decision making have been unable to muster: remove the last grain of credibility.

    Lay off the crack pipe.

    +++

  104. "the Love Shack" by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1

    I actually had a great experience there recently. I needed to buy some components for a hotwiring a car. They didn't have the exactly the part I needed, but actually knew enough about electronics to get me a quick workaround for about $5. And the chick helping me was HOT!

    I was super suprised at 1. RadioShack being helpful. 2. Finding a hottie working there.

    Now if only Verizon reps knew what the hell they were talking about.

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  105. finally by jstomel · · Score: 1

    I just had to relay this anecdote. I like to listen to the radio on my bike ride home and a few years ago my pocket radio broke. I went to radioshack to get a new one. They only had one radio in the entire store. It was the size of a paperback book and had an antenna for fuck's sake. When I pointed out that for a place called radioshack they sure don't have very many radios, they offered to sell me a cell phone that played MP3s.

  106. The Shack... LOL by orsty3001 · · Score: 1

    There used to be a porno shop / brothel near here called "The Shack". They had a sign that said, "Two for One Tuesdays!"

  107. If they followed the shops in Asia... by zelik · · Score: 1

    If they just went super geek, like the stores they have here in Taiwan and in Japan, and sold only tech components (capacitors, resistors, pcb kits) and tools (other than soldering guns) they should do fairly well...these stores here are TINY yet they pack the inventory in. Sure, any normal "average joe" BestBuy customer wouldn't know what the hell anything inside is ,for but I'm sure there are enough geeks around the whole country to sustain the business. I can find almost all the stuff needed to prototype stuff for my own electronic hobbies and I can't find the fine precision tools anywhere else. I can't even think of anywhere to find T-6 screwdrivers in America except for online stores or specialty cellphone stores.

    Heck, even sell cool educational toys like model kits that let you build a tiny solar windmill, programmable arm, whatever. I see all these cool model kits/toys here in Asia that I wish I had as a kid. I just bought my nephew a reconfigurable solar model kit that is 6-in-1: Build a solar windmill, a solar powered car, a solar powered walking bug, solar powered spinner, solar-powered boat/hoevercraft, solar-powered hopping robot (well, it "tries" to walk).

    Bought a kit to build a very simple radio and transmitter for another nephew. And I bought for a third nephew (yes, I have lots of nephews) a solar kit that lets him use an empty water bottle as the "chasis" so he can learn the effects of solar-power and also of weight/design/creativity. Yes, there are some DIY educational kits available in the US but they all seem so boring and not inviting to lots of young kids.

  108. Synergy by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

    They should merge with "The Hut" so you could now get your 2nd rate electronics and pizza all under the same roof!

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  109. In related news. by ae1294 · · Score: 1

    I stopped by Wal*Mart recently after a few months avoiding doing so...

    Found they have, O I'd say spent 20K+ to replace their old signage with a sightly updated but basically the same signage. Once entering the store my second WTF moment was instantly realizing they have totally moved everything around. The only reason I could think of for this was to trick people into buying shit they didn't come for. I made a point not to buy anything extra but I know most people would have. This makes me very angry and adds to my desire to randomly shoot people but I'm working on that in therapy... Honest...

    But in the middle of a recession, lets go ahead and buy a new $20 grand sign for every store as that will improve our bottom line... WTF? does that really work or is it just required when you go and move everything around inside so people don't think it's just a cheap trick to get them to buy more crap they didn't come for???

    And why is; the SiFi Channel now the SyFy Channel, Pizza Hut now 'The Hut' and 'Radio Shack' now just 'The Shack'? Are all the corporate types watching Dr Who reruns while getting high to think up this shit and more importantly does it really work?

    One more thing, I've not watched any TV for awhile and was very shocked by the new advertising. Has anyone seen that damn Palm Pre Ad? I want to strangle that bitch.... and that god damn Taco Bell ad that basically insults everyone with It's all about the dimes crap. O and every other ad being for new cars and the 4k of 'free' government money.. yeah... not free man.. not free...

    I'm getting old I guess... yes 31, very old... but damn advertisers are creating the most random insanely stupid crap and it makes me wonder if it works? I honestly always liked Palm but their new ad makes me NOT want to buy their products. But then again I'm old and you need to get off my lawn and my 10Base-2 LAN son... (Yes I had one with Lantasic, and I ran OS/2 v3 and I loved it, going uphill both ways in the snow.)

  110. Radio Sh*t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Folks often refer to those stores as "Radio Sh*t", but now I guess they would say "The Sh*t." See what those PR folks did there? Pretty sneaky.

  111. Where will we go for parts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hard to believe that some actually asked this question. There are numerous companies out there that have much better parts at 1/10th of the price. Just to give a FEW ideas, check out these places.
    Circuit Specialists - http://www.circuitspecialists.com/
    All Electronics - http://www.allelectronics.com/
    Mouser Electronics - http://www.mouser.com/
    Digi Key - http://www.digikey.com/

  112. Has rebranding ever worked? by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    SciFi Channel to SyFy Channel. Potential FAIL.
    Palm to PalmOne and that other confusing crap. FAIL.
    ValueJet to AirTRan. FAIL? Maybe not. I know I have to look up the name every time I fly to make sure I'm not accidentally flying them. Maybe it is a success.
    Kentucky Fried Chicken to KFC. FAIL? Has their business improved?
    Arthur Anderson to Accenture. FAIL? We all know they still suck but people keep doing business with them so maybe a wash?
    Puff Daddy to P Diddy to Diddy.

    I guess it's hard to separate the WIN from the FAIL here. Is a rebranding the cause of the failure or a symptom? Probably a symptom most of the time. If the company still exists after rebranding, can that be attributed to the branding or other factors? Dunno. But it still seems like the kind of stupid, ineffectual, expensive yet mostly symbolic empty gesture made by companies in trouble who have nothing left in the idea bin.

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    1. Re:Has rebranding ever worked? by story645 · · Score: 1

      Puff Daddy to P Diddy to Diddy

      Sean John is pretty respected in the fashion world, so that rebranding seems to have worked.

      FedEx is fine after it rebranded itself as FedEx (previously it was Federal Express or something) but that's more a case of just changing it's name to what everyone else was already calling it.

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  113. Re: competitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Da Shack! I'm lovin' it!

  114. Playing into American technical downfall by RomulusNR · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rad Hack's flaw was giving up on being THE store for electronic, A/V, and other technical components, cutting back on things like electronics kits in favor of pre-built robots, etc. Instead of maintaining a technical focus, they veered into a confusing mash of angles like prebuilt computers, TVs and video players, and cell phones.

    I am one of few people that still go to RadHack for cables and rare items that would be marked up 200% at Best Buy or impossible to find. I don't know why anyone else goes there -- and I think that's their problem.

    Other things I like about RS is that the staff usually only ask if you need help once, and aren't impossible to find when you DO need help finding something, and usually there is someone there who has a clue as to the arcane thing you are looking for.

    Trying to be a miniature Best Buy, and leaving more than 75% of their small floors as open space, is their problem -- not branding. DIY is becoming vogue again, and they should try returning to their DIY roots.

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    1. Re:Playing into American technical downfall by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      I am one of few people that still go to RadHack for cables and rare items that would be marked up 200% at Best Buy or impossible to find. I don't know why anyone else goes there -- and I think that's their problem.

      Yes....the cheaper prices at Radio Shack. You know. The prices at Radio Shack. Being cheaper than other places. Where other places are more expensive than them. With the costs of goods.

      Other things I like about RS is that the staff usually only ask if you need help once, and aren't impossible to find when you DO need help finding something, and usually there is someone there who has a clue as to the arcane thing you are looking for.

      Yes, the incredibly helpful staff at Radio Shack. The knowledgeable and informative people who work at Radio Shack who can help you with electronic stuff. Because they know things. And aren't just trying to sell you a cellphone and satellite TV.

      The real difference between the Radio Shack you go to, and the one everyone else goes to, is that apparently yours sells some sort of inter-dimensional network router, so you can post from a parallel universe.

      A universe where Radio Shack veered into a confusing mash of angles like prebuilt computers, TVs and video players, and cell phones (just like the one in our universe!), but somehow continued to have knowledgeable people work there like they did in the 80s, instead of hiring high school students. And they somehow now have lower prices than Best Buy, which they've never had here.

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  115. Canadian Fiasco by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

    There's quite a mess with the RS name in Canada. RS Canada was operated by InterTAN, who sold it to Circuit City. Then Radio Shack sued InterTAN for breach of contract, and the Radio Shack name could no longer be used, so they rebranded it "The Source by Circuit City." And now, Radio Shack is apparently going to come into Canada opening stores under that name. Bizarre and annoying.

    Sadly, before this silliness, Radio Shack (Canada, at least) had already declined from a cool store with a wide variety of electronics and parts, into a TV/Remote Control Vehicle shop, with a few gadgets and toys, and just a shadow of its former self.

    Maybe the new Radio Shack can restore some of its former appeal. I'm not holding my breath.

    We're hurting for electronics retailers in Canada, at least of the geeky kind. There's no major chain where you can pop in and buy a motherboard, for example (and I've had iffy success with small-time local dealers). Sigh.

    I've visited a Fry's in the US before, and despite it having the same lack of appeal of most big box retailers, it did have things like motherboards and components; good selection, good price, so you hold your nose and buy :)

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    1. Re:Canadian Fiasco by cheros · · Score: 1

      OK, so why isn't anyone jumping into that market opportunity? Maybe because it isn't an opportunity? Where have all the hobbyists gone?

      I'm bored to the eyeballs with what I'm doing right now, so maybe it's worth it for me to investigate - however, I wonder if that need isn't serviceable by a web shop..

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    2. Re:Canadian Fiasco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Despite the name change The Source has the general "being ripped off" feel that I get when I walk into a radio Shack in the US. They do carry some odd items that you just won't find in a big chain store.

      The Source was recently bought out by Bell.

  116. Headphone jacks by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

    Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

    They are called Mini RCA and come in mono or stereo versions. The black bands at the base of the metal tells
    which you have. And as a fan of RadioShack you should have known this. :-)

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  117. I was raised calling it... by immortalpob · · Score: 1

    "Radio Scrap". My dad had a very low opinion of their computers, everyone remembers when they made them right...

  118. Re:Anyone remember RadioShack vs Bianca's Smut Sha by dgatwood · · Score: 1

    If they really did that, it was years after they intimidated Auto Shack to rename itself Auto Zone.

    At least Rat Shack doesn't abuse design patents to try to stifle competition.

    Hmm. Maybe the whole "Rat Shack" thing is the reason they're changing their name.... Won't work, though. We'll always jokingly refer to it as the Rat Shack. :-)

    Dumb name or not, as long as they continue to sell component parts and soldering gun tips, I'll keep going there. They tend to carry the parts that Fry's doesn't and vice versa. If they drop that, I probably won't set foot in one ever again; they quite literally have nothing else of interest to me or anyone I know.

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  119. Shack? by bjverzal · · Score: 1

    The Jack Shack?

  120. Batteries and Cellphones by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    The last time I went into a Radio Shack, the only thing they sold were batteries and cellphones. Both salesmen looked at me like I was from Mars when I asked for a ferrite choke core.

    I'm just glad to see they're picking a name that accurately reflects their current state.

  121. Waiting for the future picture by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    of one of these 'The Shack' stores sitting next to one of 'The Hut'* restaurants.

    * - IIRC, Pizza Hut is conducting the same bizarre obfuscation campaign.

  122. Radio Shack by any other name is just as FAIL by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I remember the 8-Bit days when people jokingly called their computers as Trash-80's when they were TRS-80. Tandy Radio Shack, and then they developed the TRS Coco or Color Computer to replace the TRS-80, and then later the Tandy 1000 IBM PCjr type PC Clone, et all. The Tandy 1000 IIRC used the PCJr sound and video chips but ran Tandy-DOS and Deskmate and used special expansion slots that weren't ISA compatible because of pinout changes. Gee I wonder why it failed? :)

    Radio Shack was named after the part of a Navy Ship that had the Radio equipment in it. Those not in the Navy won't get the reference.

    They should have called it eShack or Electronics Shack or something that sounds better than Shack or The Shack.

    I recall every time I went to a Radio Shack they didn't have the part I needed in stock, and the catalog price was way expensive and I ended up finding a cheaper part somewhere else. The only thing neat about Radio Shack were their wireless controlled cars and toys that I would buy for my son, and hand held video games. I remember a friend of mine applied for a Radio Shack credit card and got a free hand held Black Jack game for signing up. I used to be a member of their "Battery Club" when I was a teenager, and every month I would get a free battery. I remember buying magnets from Radio Shack for science experiments and parts to make stereo speakers, etc.

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  123. Re: competitors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Shack" isn't edgy or funny, it's just weird and dumb, especially because it will say NOTHING descriptive about the current business model or product offerings.

    I disagree. To me, that says that it's a dilapidated joint that contains nothing, or whatever it does contain is nothing but junk.

    Seems to describe the last Radio Shack I went into quite well. :-)

  124. Want some Eggs? by djdevon3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    NewEgg doesn't sell eggs. You can't order a real Bengal from TigerDirect. You can't buy Micro Stars from MSI. and finally... Macintosh does not sell real Apples.

    1. Re:Want some Eggs? by sglewis100 · · Score: 2, Funny

      NewEgg doesn't sell eggs. You can't order a real Bengal from TigerDirect. You can't buy Micro Stars from MSI. and finally... Macintosh does not sell real Apples.

      You may be right on the first three, but the last one would be Apple does not sell real Macintoshes. And even then... it's McIntosh. There is no fruit called Macintosh. Must be a boring lunch for me to even write this.

    2. Re:Want some Eggs? by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can't order a real Bengal from TigerDirect.

      Not unless you have $10.99 plus shipping. Looks real, although I'd have to look at it in person to better judge if it is fake.

  125. Service Mark? by Beorytis · · Score: 1
    I followed the link in TFA to the screenshot at Endgadget that spurred the speculation.

    I noticed they placed a "SM" (Service Mark) not a "TM" (Trade Mark) next to "The Shack", which implies they will be selling services, not goods under the new brand.

  126. Re:Anyone remember RadioShack vs Bianca's Smut Sha by genner · · Score: 1

    If they really did that, it was years after they intimidated Auto Shack to rename itself Auto Zone.

    At least Rat Shack doesn't abuse design patents to try to stifle competition.

    Hmm. Maybe the whole "Rat Shack" thing is the reason they're changing their name.... Won't work, though. We'll always jokingly refer to it as the Rat Shack. :-)

    Dumb name or not, as long as they continue to sell component parts and soldering gun tips, I'll keep going there. They tend to carry the parts that Fry's doesn't and vice versa. If they drop that, I probably won't set foot in one ever again; they quite literally have nothing else of interest to me or anyone I know.

    Rat Shack? There's no T in radio. It was the Rad Shack, the totally tublular place we all hung out at during the 80's.

  127. Radio Schlock? by 2centplain · · Score: 1

    "Radio Schlock" might better describe the current version of this retailer. Junky, overpriced electronics, staffed by clerks with mediocre knowledge.

  128. Re:Radio Shack... 10-15 years ago? More like 25-30 by desenz · · Score: 1

    I don't know... I worked there ~2 years ago and did that sort of stuff all the time. I'm pretty good with a soldering iron, and it made me a ton of tips from people who thought electronics were wizardry.

  129. Re:Anyone remember RadioShack vs Bianca's Smut Sha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wasn't aware of the AutoShack/AutoZone thing. I was under the impression it happened in 1994 or so but according to wiki, it was 1997. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianca.com

  130. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by Reziac · · Score: 1

    One wonders about the money laundry aspect...

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  131. Accenture by Alex+Belits · · Score: 1

    I can still remember Anderson Consultants, but for the life of me I can't remember what they call themselves now.

    It's now "Ass-Enter".

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  132. yeah? by AnAdventurer · · Score: 1

    I could really go for a Fanta right now.

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  133. Dilbert Hasn't Harrased Them In A While by Greyfox · · Score: 1
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  134. The Love Shack! by zerobytes · · Score: 1

    Tin roof..........rusted! Or perhaps it should say 'All my Radio Shack purchases..........busted!'

  135. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by LaissezFaire · · Score: 1

    For grins I went to Radio Shack to check out ham radios. Not a one in the store, and the salesman was confused over why he'd even carry them. He was willing to sell me a CB, but I would have gone to a truck stop if I wanted one of those.

  136. Mod Parent Down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhhhh....right. Sounds just a *bit* fabricated to me. Especially the trip to Radio Shack and ESPECIALLY the 20 minutes thing.

  137. Info from an actual RS Employee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am an actual, honest-to-god RadioShack employee.

    And having said that, 95% of the people who were reading my comment have just decided to move on to the next one without reading any more. Oh well, guess I should be used to such treatment considering RadioShack's overall image.

    Anyway, for the two or three people who are still reading my comment, I am going to share my opinion on this change, along with some info that I know about it.

    First off...I agree, it's stupid. This branding change won't help at all. I predict that it'll only last a year, maybe two years tops, then they'll drop it.

    Now...with that said, here is what my district manager has told me about this "The Shack" thing:

    This is not going to be an official company name change. The company and stores are still going to be officially called "RadioShack". This whole "The Shack" thing they're pulling out of their butts is just a sort of slang they've decided to tack on their branding to make the franchise look fresh, hip and energetic. Compare this to KFC. Everyone calls them KFC, but their official legal business name is still "Kentucky Fried Chicken". So, yes, they're gonna try to shove "The Shack" down everyone's throats, but the company and stores are still going to be officially and legally called "RadioShack". The employees aren't being required to get new uniforms or name tags that say "The Shack", and stores aren't being required to get new outdoor signage that says "The Shack". It's not an official name change...just something, as mentioned, they simply decided to tack on to appear cool.

    That's all of the info I'm allowed to divulge at the moment. Trust me, there's more I wish I could tell you. RSHQ sent every store a little box of propaganda about the upcoming change that I'm just aching to discuss, but alas am not allowed to do so.

    1. Re:Info from an actual RS Employee by aaandre · · Score: 1

      Issue is not with the name, bro. The crappy image is a reflection of the crappyness of the company's stores. You may call it Palace of Shacky Delights and the stores will still be useless. After leaving a niche business for a mainstream cheapo electronics store niche, RS has to compete with best buys of the worlds. Lost cause. What made RS was catering to enthusiasts. Going mainstream killed that, at least in my neighborhood RS which no longer carries specialty items, just high-margin crappy consumer electronics.

  138. Less Searchable by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 1

    The Shack will be harder to find in searches. Just like i think Electrosol moving to Finish is horrible for them. You have something that differentiates, don't give it up.

  139. No more by aaandre · · Score: 1

    Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

    Funny that you asked that. Last time I went to RS to buy RCA to headphone cable for my car stereo/ipod connection, they didn'have any. Because they didn't carry them anymore.

    The store had some crappy tvs, cell phones, overpriced memory cards and cheaply made electronic chochki. No soldering irons or anything useful to makers.

    Sad.

  140. Didn't they already try this once before? by honestmonkey · · Score: 1

    I swear that during the 80's they tried some other name change and people didn't know what to make of it. I don't remember the name, something like TRS or Tandy Stores or something. It didn't stick, so they had to go back to Radio Shack.

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  141. Radio Shack is not relevant anymore by maxrate · · Score: 1

    I remember years ago when radio shack used to carry lots of components, tools, quality audio gear, etc. The commercial/home electronics were of good quality as well. That is no longer the case. I used to collect their catalogs when I was a kid, make a list of parts I'd like.... I'd also read all of Forrest M Mims electronics publications from Tandy. The place just doesn't cater to the techie crowd/experimenter anymore. I used to have a batter club card...... at least that's how they are in Canada before Circuit City bought them over. Just a sign of the times I suppose... experimenters/do-it-yourself projects/etc, just not as economically viable for a store as they once were. Today I have to mail order everything I need for my electronics experiments. I used to like walking into a Radio Shack and purchase a logic chip or pack of LED's etc.

  142. Fast Forward to the past... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Shack Electronics" was a store chain in the late 70's & 80's that was very similar and went out of business. IIRC, where was a lawsuit between the two chains. It's interesting that Radio Shack is taking on that identity. I hope that the chain doesn't go under, they are useful on occasion and carry products that no one else does anymore, at least out in suburbia.

  143. me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bring back the tandy computer LOL

  144. The Perfect Spokesman for The Shack by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 1

    The perfect spokesman would be William Shatner. That way, you would have The Shack and the Shat.

  145. I worked at, and actually liked The Shack by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 1

    As crazy as it may seem I worked for Radioshack for about 4 1/2 years through and after college. I loved it. I wasn't the annoying clueless RS employee and my customers loved me for that. I could actually answer their questions and help them get exactly what they needed, even if it was some esoteric EE project. The manager at my store Paul, was a very intelligent and great guy which is also what made it enjoyable. It all falls apart after that though, the district meetings, the district managers, and the terrible vision for the company.

    I was always in the top sales for my district by virtue of not being a douche so I was spared a lot of problems, but I still would get hassled for not having a high "attach rate" (adding on extras to orders and cell phones) or other such garbage. The company has no solid idea of how to move forward and they keep throwing spaghetti against the wall and hoping something sticks. All they need to do is become a true electronics store in every neighborhood staffed with knowledgeable people and decent prices.They've tried videogaming, TVs, computers, toys, etc. but never put enough money and time behind any of them to excel. So they just drop it and move on to the next big thing. Instead of crap zip Zaps and stuff start offering real hobby class radio controlled stuff and all the neat things RS used to carry.

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  146. My Vote by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    I vote that they change it to: Electron Hut.

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  147. Forgetting the customer by halber_mensch · · Score: 1

    Radio Shack has had a disturbing trend of forgetting who its customers are in an attempt to gain more footing in the consumer electronics market. They've been scaling back their hobby electronics supplies and scaling up on over priced cell phones, TVs, and home audio equipment. It's becoming a second rate walmart electronics department, only without the movies or music or video games, and therefore becoming less and less relevant.

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  148. Re: competitors by Bjorn_Redtail · · Score: 1

    If I remember correctly, Pacific Bell acctually had to pay to license the name "Telesis" in that name change.

  149. Rename it "The Shock" by busydoingnothing · · Score: 1

    As in, it's a shock that they're still in business. I walked in there a couple weeks ago to grab some female RJ-45 jacks and they had them, sure...at $6.50 a piece. I turned right around out the door and ordered them for $1.60 from the internet (firefold.com...note that I am in no way affiliated with this site, I'm just a two-times satisfied customer). I guess that's the price you pay if you're in a pinch, but how the hell does this store survive in the age of Wal-Mart, Best Buy, and the Internet?

  150. Who shops at Radio Shack? by Seumas · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised they're even still in business. When was the last time anyone shopped at a Radio Shack? Was it even in this past decade?

    The only reason to go to Radio Shack:

    + You need an expensive knock-off version of a product you could find elsewhere of better quality.
    + You need a random electronic or electrical doo-dad or component that you could find cheaper elsewhere in your town if you spend 30 seconds looking at a phone book.
    + You enjoy handing over your private information every single time.
    + You get a lot of joy being hassled for a new cell plan or other promotion EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU HIT THE CASH REGISTER.

  151. Who carries parts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Radio Shack in the mall by my house doesn't carry parts at all, so I went over to another location and when they didn't have the part they suggested the mall location. I told them "they don't sell parts there." So they picked up the phone and called to verify it. They had no clue.

  152. Business model by lugannerd · · Score: 1

    Every time I go to the Shack - there is ALWAYS a dumb/lame consumer asking the local geek for advice. The Shack prays on these folks and makes GREAT money at it. I like it for the fast instant gratification of obtaining electronic components.

  153. Mod GGParent Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I retract my prior comment.

  154. Duh Shack by kuei12 · · Score: 1

    It would be better if they just hired employees who knew the difference between a can of deodorant and a can of tuner cleaner.

  155. Great Move! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a great move on their part to make their name sound a bit "hipper" to the younger set.

    When I went there with my dad in the early 60's (quite often, because he had a start-up going), it was already called The Shack by him, and in general usage with his fellow electronic geeks already.

    73, The AC Ham

  156. RS missed the boat on PC parts... by vistic · · Score: 1

    I think RadioShack is good if you need some adapters, cables, soldering irons, or electrical components. The last things I remember buying there were an audio adapter for airplane headphone jacks, some blue LEDs, a desoldering ribbon, and before that... an RF modulator.

    I think you hit the nail on the head though by mentioning PC parts. If I need something like a CPU fan, RAM, a power supply, or something like that... I head to Fry's Electronics. But that's something that RadioShack should have been able to do if they had not been pushing Sprint phones and RCA receivers.

  157. Re:Well.. not sure if it's better than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess you don't remember the Radio Shack commercials with Shaq in them...

  158. Vending Machine Kiosk... by Xin+Jing · · Score: 1

    Moving from a brick and morter storefront to a refillable machine similar to Redbox or the Motorola vending machine could be a great move. Ditch big ticket items like TVs and DVD players and focus on your core customer: people that need small, specific tech conveniently and affordably. With Redbox there's credit card accessability which means data connection, so a catalogue for large items could be viewed, purchased and matched for delivery with a local or regional service. Radioshack could cut their rent, inventory and staffing and shift their attention on offering products people need at locations where people are.

  159. Radio Shack.... by spacemky · · Score: 1

    Because: "Radio Shack: You've got questions, we've got blank stares!"

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  160. Why all the ratty sounding dwellings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few months ago I was told Pizza Hut was going to become 'The Hut'. I even remember a logo. I don't know what to believe anymore.

  161. Radio Shite by flameproof · · Score: 1

    As always, Greed Will Out. I can't even express how dismal I've felt over the last 15 years whenever I walk by a Radio Shack. Any more I just refuse to enter as the whole front end of the stores are simply stark, deserted reminders of 21st century cellphone stupidity. When I was a teenager I had my Battery Club card so I could get a free battery for my radio or walkie-talkie and that lead me to discover Forrest Mims, ham radio and 741 op-amps and the utopia of the Parts Wall and the Coco III. No more. All gone. A couple of slag plastic bins and perhaps a switch or two and none of them light up. It sucks.

    As far as I'm concerned, they can call it anything they want since to find a good world-band radio you have to hit the flea markets or yard sales anyway. Take the "Radio" out and call it "Fone Shack" or "2-Year Service Plan Crap Shack". So long as they don't try resting on their otherwise historically awesome laurels. I'll call it what it is: Radio Shite.

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  162. Jack Shack? by slipangle · · Score: 1

    You know, where you can buy jacks and stuff.

  163. The Shack in Tour de France 2010 w/Lance Armstrong by operator_error · · Score: 1

    RadioShack announced it will be the primary sponsor for Lance Armstrong and Johan Bruyneel's new cycling team.

    "Lance Armstrong will compete for Team RadioShack as a cyclist, runner and triathlete in events around the world, including the 2010 Tour de France," the company said in a statement.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/tdf2009/news/story?id=4349772

    Hey look! An ESPN citation on Slashdot too!

    Seriously, The [Radio]Shack has just replaced the United States Postal Service, and the nation of Kazakhstan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astana as the most interesting cycling team to follow in the Tour de France!

  164. Re-branding??? by oldebloke · · Score: 1

    Anyone really considering the 're-branding' should consider carefully the saga of Datsun's change to Nissan -- that nearly killed the company and they are STILL trying to recover their lost glory.

  165. I thought they already had a DBA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Temple of Low Tech. no money, don't sue please. English is my second language.

  166. Where would you go? by davygrvy · · Score: 1

    Easy, Fry's Electronics. They are the better Radio Shack. They are what Radio Shack should have grown to. You're lucky if your local RadShack even has solder these days. A 220uf/25V cap or a 2N2222?... NEVER! They lost my electronic hobbyist business years ago. I will never step into their stores ever again... unless I want skins for my Nokia. lame lame lame.. I hope they do rebrand! That's the sign of a sinking ship. Let it sink.

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  167. Deja Vu by AvantPunk · · Score: 1

    I can't find a link to back this up, but I swear Radio Shack attempted this once before (to the exact same name, even) years ago. It may have just been a regional SoCal thing. Regardless, it was short-lived.

    1. Re:Deja Vu by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      They did start up a couple of chains: Tech America, Incredible Universe, and Computer City, to try to branch out into the big box format.

      Tech America was simply awesome in terms of selection, but suffered from Radio Shack's 1800's business model of selling the same stuff for twice what you could get it for down the street, and just hoping people will think it's better because it costs more.

      Incredible Universe was simple horrifying. Same deal. They were often just down the street or next door to a Circuit City - and was again the same products at higher prices with even less-informed sales staff.

      Computer City was similarly disappointing - usually a year behind in product availability and pricing - often selling already obsolete processors and memory and what were by then ridiculous prices.

  168. Some better name ideas... by d474 · · Score: 1

    Radio Hut (Hey, if it's good enough for Pizza and Sunglasses...)

    Shack Attack (This name screams action, and encompasses the feeling of panic motivating most customers to shop there at the last minute)

    Movie Theater Popcorn (This name conveys the convenience and prices offered, compared to their competition. EMBRACE YOUR BUSINESS MODEL!!!)

    Cell Shack (Cell phones are kind of like radios, and let's admit it, isn't this want they really want to be?)

    Radio Slut (Sex SELLS.)

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  169. "Where will we go...?" by X86Daddy · · Score: 1

    Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

    Harbor Freight and Dollar Tree, respectively. Cheaper, and with great additional selection, albeit less convenient if you happened to need both items at the same time.

    Seriously though, for electronic components "right now," I still visit "the Shack" and wish them well at continuing to exist in that less and less well-served niche. As for the rest of what they sell? They seriously need to keep re-evaluating until they find some items or services they can sell competitively in their stores... I know of no one who thinks "Radio Shack" for cellphones, computers, AV, etc... Here's a thought: certain small, rarer PC items could be stocked in a small store and sold at prices that are justifyably above bargain for the "right now" benefit. When I can get some standard USB cables at Dollar Tree, Radio Shack needs to sell all the varieties of USB this to USB that cables for $3... if they did, I'd have visited several more times in the last year, where I might have also noticed other decent deals on items I might need right after a failure, like a PSU, etc..

    And I'd like a pony. :-) Still, I think the long-term customer relationship with anyone who needs electronic and computer bits where that person repeatedly buys there for the "have it now" benefit would be a better strategy than selling an overpriced computer to an unwary customer once in a while, who, after getting laughed at by their friends and family, never does that again.

  170. The Shack and The Hut by hether · · Score: 1

    They must share a marketing firm with The Hut (formerly know as Pizza Hut). God forbid you give somebody an idea what you sell at your store, even if it's not the only thing you sell.

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  171. Last time I was at Radio Shack by Twyst3d · · Score: 1

    I bought a copy of Thexder and Leisure Suit Larry 2. Its too bad really. I have a feeling, they will spend money effecting this change, and all they will have to show for it are the bills for all the signs they had to replace. Whatever happened to selling games? I used to buy all my old sierra adventure games there. Three days before PC gaming started becoming actually popular they stopped carrying games. Friggin idiots. Oh well out with the old in with the new. Buhbye Radio Shack.

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  172. What about the standards? by braindrainbahrain · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that venerable standards for data communications, such as RS-232 and RS-422 will now have to be renamed S-232 and S-422?

    (...it's a joke ... get it?...get it?...)

  173. The Shack: You've got questions... by johnthorensen · · Score: 1

    ...We ain't got shit. Seriously though, I was actually in a RS the other day analyzing the store a little while talking to a long-time clerk. People say that RS is trying to compete with Best Buy, et cetera; that's not quite it, in my opinion. What they are really doing here is setting up a national chain of third-party mobile phone stores.

    When you walk into the typical RS, the front 30-40% of the store is almost entirely given over to mobiles and accessories. Looking at their website, the first item on the top menu bar is "Phones and Radio Communications" with the first item in that menu being "Accessories" (the highest-margin part of the mobile business). Every time I checkout, I get asked how long I've had my current mobile phone.

    Not even considering the classic component selection, the other consumer electronics stuff is a distant second to mobile. The clerk I spoke with said they're lucky to sell a couple TVs per month. And why *would* they do any better than that, when Wal-Mart knocks the shorts off them in price?

    Does the new business model piss me off as an electronics hobbyist? Yeah, sure it does. I wanted to get a power MOSFET the other day and the highest-voltage part they had was an IRF510. They carry silver solder, but no flux. Etchant but no copper-clad boards. However, I don't blame them if they aren't making any money selling that stuff.

    In my opinion, there's one way left to make money on a retail electronics-as-in-making-them store. Forget about the mall, and set it up as a hobby-type shop where you put on classes, offer support, and so on. Similar in a sense to a traditional 'hobby'-type store like Michael's or Hobby Lobby; they sell cake decorating gear by putting on classes featuring said gear. In the right environment, say a college town, there's no reason that a small, owner-operated hobby electronics shop couldn't make it if they're not having to pay mall rents. Put on an Arduino workshop, and sell those suckers at 150% the usual markup. Passives assortments at $20/pop. Saturday-morning robot showoff session. Have a tiny lab in the store with a couple o-scopes and DMMs where people could come in and work on their projects for some nominal fee. Would it satisfy the profit desires of corporate America? No. But it'd probably pay the owner's mortgage...

  174. Whaaa? by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    >> Where will we go to buy soldering irons and those RCA to headphone jack adapters now?

    Soldering Irons? RCA to Headphone adapters?

    I thought RadioShack only sold cell phones and DirecTV? What gives?

  175. Thank you! by XanC · · Score: 1

    Here in Texas we have Dreyer's (although we buy Blue Bell instead). I was doing a crossword puzzle and "Ben & Jerry rival" came out as "Edy". I thought I had something terribly wrong, but now it makes sense.

  176. Re: competitors by macraig · · Score: 1

    I don't think so. I read at length about the name change at the time it occurred, and no licensing was mentioned. As I said, they had paid a San Francisco ad agency the whopping sum of 750 grand to come up with that name; I doubt they would have paid so much if a part of it required licensing! Further, AT&T now owns the domain telesis.info. And finally, there's this, the proverbial nail in the coffin:

    http://altlaw.org/v1/cases/444211

    PTG actually sued another company, International Telesis Communications, for service mark infringement. ITC lost, so perhaps they licensed "Telesis" *FROM* Pacific Telesis. You might have had it backwards.

  177. The Shack. by Syntroxis · · Score: 1

    LOL, I work there. Unfortunately. Hopefully I will have another gig "real soon now." RadioShack died and The Shack was born on August 1. Would you be interested in a cell phone now? How do you like your carrier? Would you like to check and see if you're due for an upgrade? A resistor???? Resistor?? Does that work with a cell phone? It's rather pathetic.

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  178. Re:Anyone remember RadioShack vs Bianca's Smut Sha by y2imm · · Score: 1

    Yes, I remember it fondly. I eventually paid for a lifetime membership. Yeah, funny in a way....

  179. How to prosper charging more for less. by hey! · · Score: 1

    I think the whole reason they've prospered is not competing with the big boxes.

    The big box formula is about economies of scale. Big stores = low prices = high volume.

    They also mean a longer drive.

    I bet it's one of those business models that happen by accident. You have a store that caters to a small but widespread group. So your store stocks things that they can't get easily. It can't be big, because there aren't enough of them. Then people come in to buy other things like TV aerials and whatnot. So why not sell them other things that go with the TV? There's a lot more people who buy TV cables and stuff than capacitors and soldering irons.

    Probably the most important thing Radio Shack sells is batteries. You need a bunch of batteries, and maybe some of them are odd. Probably the drug store's got them, but if they don't you're out of luck and the people won't know what you're talking about. The big box electronic chain almost certainly has them, but that's ten miles away and there's a radio shack in the shopping plaza two miles away. That's exactly the same reason that sends the geek there to get a roll of solder.

    Even if the Radio Shack is in a mall anchored by a big box electronic store, even if that store puts the batteries right up by the registers, it's still faster to dash into Radio Shack, and if the price is a bit higher, it's still cheap enough.

    Then when you're there, you see this r/c toy and you remember little Timmy's birthday is coming up. Or you ask the friendly salesman a question about that phone you spotted on the way in. These guys may not have MIT Course 6 degrees when it comes to technical knowledge, but they're nearly always friendly and eager to be informative within the limits of their ability.

    And so a successful business model is born. It's the same thing that keeps local hardware stores stocking an impressive assortment of nuts and bolts. I can go to Lowes or Home Depot and they'll have a larger selection, but the local store almost certainly has what I need and the small scale and attentive service gets me out the door fast with my $2 of purchases fast, and that matters when I'm in the middle of a project. And often I'll also have $20 of things I purchased because they caught my eye.

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  180. reply to The Shack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this rumor is true i work at what i will now call The Shack, and it is already undergowing its transformation from Radio Shack to The shack. i actually starting changing a vast amount of signs today

  181. just marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I only hate Radioshack because I work here.

    The whole rebranding thing is just a marketing push, the sign out front will always say RadioShack. Don't get too excited nothing is really changing. The non-sale batteries and cable will still be overpriced. The camera's, computers, TVs, and cell phones will still have some of the best prices at any brick and mortar (actually price check this before whining about overpriced merch). The employees will always push cellphones because that is the only way to make money/keep your job.

    If you are a young technically savvy person you probably don't need lots of the stuff at RadioShack, but there is something you need that you don't want to wait for shipping and can't find at a big box. Try getting real tech support or knowledge at a big box (without ahving to pay for it).

    Working here sucks, but we serve a demographic that needs our help.

  182. 17-foot laptop? by nobodyknowsimageek · · Score: 1

    Only in a marketing meeting would this seem like a good idea to anybody.

    OOh!! I know! Next we'll have the attack of the 40-foot iPhone!

  183. Re:How are they even still in business at this poi by DavidTC · · Score: 1

    And about an hundred square feet of empty space around the ten square feet of cell phone displays at the front of the store. You could play tag football in the front of some Radio Shacks.

    Seriously, it's like morons have designed their stores. I want to forcible walk them through other stores. and say 'You guys see these other stores? With shoulder high shelves running from front to back, with occasional variations and gaps in them?'

    Yeah, see, what happens is that different people want to buy different things, and if you actually have those things, people will buy them. In smaller and mall stores, people have mostly settled on rows of shelving, low enough that people can see over them, organized in some logical grouping. This lets you have maximum selection without overwhelming people. Bigger stores have taller, but wider, aisles, and you could try that instead. But some manner of 'shelving' would allow you to actually sell a lot of different things.

    Whereas when you, OTOH, have decided to have tiny pillars holding cell phones, surrounded by a bunch of empty space so that people can see your cell phone displays from thirty fucking feet away. See, the flaw in that logic is it fails utterly if, for example, they don't want to buy a cell phone. They aren't going to decide to buy a cell phone instead of your stuff, because they cannot use a cell phone instead of a wall-mounted network jack, which is what they were intending to buy, but have already left to go to Home Depot to get one.

    I know you understand shelves, because you usually cram a few in the back 25% of the store, but, you see, that's really too little, because the cell phone thing is only useful if people want to buy a cell phone anyway. And, believe it or not, almost no one goes to Radio Shack to buy a fucking cell phone...we go to the cell phone store, you idiots. You know, those things in the middle of the aisle in the mall? Or two doors down from you at the strip mall?

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  184. Did Pepsico buy them? Reminds me of "The Hut" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This reminds me of Pizza Hut changing their name to The Hut.

  185. Radio Shack..... by whoppo · · Score: 1

    .... You've got questions.... We've got cellphones!

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  186. You're reading this on a telegraph by tepples · · Score: 1

    how many telegraphs will you use today?

    Your computer is a telegraph. Your mobile phone is a telegraph. Anything that sends or receives text using a modulated signal is a telegraph.

  187. All the world's a VAX. Really. by tepples · · Score: 1

    we have massively scaled out server systems that are (software-wise) closer to microcomputers than minis or mainframes.

    I thought the defining feature of a mini over a micro was that a mini had virtual memory. An i386-family 32-bit CPU acts a lot more like a VAX minicomputer (if you know x86 asm, see how many of these elements of vaxocentrism still apply) than like the 8- and 16-bit micros that preceded it.

  188. Breyers and Dreyer's in the dryer by tepples · · Score: 1

    Breyers isn't an east coast brand, it's sold on the west coast too.

    But I'd bet Unilever (owner of Breyers) probably has an agreement with Nestlé (owner of Dreyer's) that Nestlé won't use the Dreyer's name outside Dreyer's historical home territory.

  189. Radio Shack "The Shack" by ruhaihu · · Score: 1

    First thing I have to say... don't know if I should but I am going to anyway..... I WORK AT A "Radio Shack".... yes i said it ... i regret it already. kinda...

    Ok that is out.... I have been there over 2yrs longer than I ever wanted to be... Lots has changed... Yes they are becoming and they say they are a wireless phone store... Decent prices if you need a get a new/upgrade with Sprint or ATT and this month T-Mobile. Accessory selection I have to say sucks.

    Why in the reference change to "The Shack" who knows... They say people have been referring to them as "The Shack" For some time now.... I have not heard that and I have worked at one for over 2 yrs now. (cough... BC, NV....) cough...I desperately NEED/want a different job...cough Pay sucks because of the way they do commission. Pays alright when you shove service plans on people and accessories and a new phone to everyone that comes into the store...... I want out of retail/sales so badly.

    At the moment they are just want to brain wash people into calling "Radio Shack" .. "The Shack" ... Kinda like "Burger King" is referred to as "BK".... lets hope this reference does not kill them. I also hope they do not Change the name to "The Shack".

    Manager/s think it is stupid, Sales Associates(me and others) think its stupid.

    Do not be surprised when "Radio Shack" no longer carries small parts. Do not be surprised either if it hurts "Radio Shack"s reputation. Making it sound ghetto by wanting to be called "The Shack"

    That is my 2cents as a Sales Associate that desperately needs a different job. Recently got an Associates Computing and Info Tech, and now am going for Bachelors In programing.

  190. brain dead by countach · · Score: 1

    I hate it when companies turn their back on a long and proud history because of some brain dead idea by the latest marketdroid. Sure, there are some cases when it has to be done. But then there are cases like this when it is plain stupid.

  191. Re:Radio Shack... 10-15 years ago? More like 25-30 by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    I've bought three things at Radio Shack in the last 5 years -- (1&2) two digital cameras on the same day, they were Xmas gifts and Radio Shack had them the cheapest! Jacked up SD card price, and they were pushing a bundle that included a printer that used ridiculously expensive ink. I declined and bought a Brother somewhere else. (3) a WiFi repeater that didn't work for shit. That went back the next day.

    To the credit of the employees, they didn't seem to mind taking a return. They just checked the box to make sure everything was there, and did a chargeback. I did have to wait, but that's more understaffing (management problem) than an issue with the employees. I have found one way to speed through the line at Radio Shack is to stare longingly at anything expensive. That will get some assistance REAL quick. They'll practically drag you to the register if you say "yes" when they walk up and ask if you are ready to complete your purchase. They think they're closing the deal on whatever you were staring at, when all you actually want is what's in your hands, or maybe their display case. :)

    I have completely given up on them as a source for anything small and more challenging than a 1/8"-to-RCA cable. I'm actually all right with them charging $7 for a cable that Parts Express has for $2.50, that's why they're the 7-11 of gadgetry. JUST HAVE IT WHEN I NEED IT.

    Mal-2

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  192. Love Shack by siriuskase · · Score: 1

    This could cause some confusion with the Love Shack chain of adult toy stores

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  193. Re: competitors by lennier · · Score: 1

    ""The Shack" isn't edgy or funny, it's just weird and dumb, especially because it will say NOTHING descriptive about the current business model or product offerings."

    Perhaps that's the point - it means they can now get into any other business they want? Cross-marketing synergy and all that? Pick and choose the profitable fields rapidly? Cut all your roots and become a sort of virtual floaty thing?

    Yeah, I don't think it's smart, but I can see how generic non-trade-relatedness could be seen as an asset in a certain light.

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  194. Re: competitors by macraig · · Score: 1

    The ultimate in noncommittal business models, eh? Well, I am a fan of generalized solutions to problems, so I guess I should cut them some slack for being so ambiguous then?

    Nah! It's just weird and dumb. ;-)

  195. What's the point? by rnturn · · Score: 1

    Everyone I know already refers to them as "Radio Trash" (and has been since the '80s) and it's way too late to break that habit.

    (Having said that, I have to admit that I still have a couple of RS products that have served me well over the years: a little Realistic STA-12 AM/FM receiver and a pair of those excellent Minimus-7 speakers. I may dump the receiver one day but the speakers will probably still be around for years.)

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  196. Wow, the word "The" has become so trendy.... by eluusive · · Score: 1

    What on earth is going on? Pizza Hut is now "The Hut" and Radio Shack is now "The Shack"? There's a couple other things that renamed themselves in such a matter but I can't remember. This is a little ridiculous...

  197. Radio Shack should have died a decade ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Radio Shack has been a glorified cell phone store for 10 years now. All managment cares about is cell phone sales numbers. The chargers, soldering irons, etc. don't have the margins they want and have become more of a relic of their heritage and a nuisance than the slim profit they make on them warrants.

    Sorry guys. Better, cheaper stuff is available on the internet than RS can sell it for.

    I'll miss Radio Shack, but its time has passed.

  198. The Hut... by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    In related news I hear Pizzahut is changing there name to just "The Hut"... seriously...

    Also as already mentioned, they changed names up here in Canada to "The Source" some time ago... however they may be bankrupt now, so perhaps that didn't work out so well. (Though I am pretty sure it had little to do with the name, and a lot to do with the service/product)

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  200. I have been calling it Jap Shack for years by pebear · · Score: 1

    But I guess that would not be that good since most of the electronics are now made in China, So call it China Chack or Pac Rim Shack ??

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  201. *weeps openly* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I cry every time I go into a Radio Shack these days. I just hope they die soon. If they re-brand, it should be "cheap remote cars central", or "would you like to join our battery club?"

  202. As long as they don'y go away... by twoHats · · Score: 1

    As many have mentioned - this has been the surefire place to get the connectors and diys stuff you need right away. Plus - Circuit City mini plug 1 ft. connector (in white of course) 19.95! 5 doors down - Same exact RS connector (except in black) - 2.98. And now CC is gone- wonder why?

  203. I guess it Jumped the Shack by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

    (sorry for the bad pun)

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  204. Radio Shack 4242 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RadioShack is not changing ther name. why dont you people read in to it a little more. It is a sales slogan. We gave our shelves a nickname. The BK for burger king.Coke for cokacola. Its a name our customers and workers have been calling us for years. radio shack also sells more cell phones then any other national 3rd party dealer in the entire world. We have been selling them for over 10 years. we still also offer all the parts batteries fuses and wires that our older customers still come in for. radio shack has been around for 90 years. They know what they need to do to stay in the game. How many electronic stores do you know of that have been open longer than 20 years. so many have come and gone. but radioshack has always been in the picture. Smart Staff. Good prices. Great value...so best buy. lets see if you can make it another 70 years.