I spent over an hour this weekend trying to simply find a document explaining the variables that need to be set to get java going. This was so that java would be available to users on the server that I am setting up, not so that I could use it.
So I asked around as to where I could find such a document, any I was pointed to documents that went over everything BUT setting up these variables.
Sun's website was less than helpful in determining how to get started. Most of the documentation there is for people who already know about Java.
The last time I really did any Java programming was back in 1998.
With Linux, it is easy to see how to get started, there are tons of documents on it. Sure, I could have gone out to the web and searched for the variables you need to set for Java to work, but why should I have to? I downloaded the java 2 sdk FROM Sun, why can't I get my information from Sun.
I remember there was a type of object based visual language for programming/scripting on the Amiga, I can't remember what it was called. But I always thought that if someone could standardize that and make it more available and versatile that it would be the programming language of the future. And that it would allow everyone to make programs.
It's also kind of like in Star Trek: TNG, the episode where Dr. Crusher has to program the computer to calculate who all those speices DNA will map out to the star charts. You get the impression that she is doing something very complex in an object oriented way. Of course, that's Sci-Fi and made for TV, but still.
Really? Because when they say "loses one second every billion years", it sounds like they are using it to keep time.
For what its worth, I understand tht atomic clocks are more used for minute time measurement than keeping time. But I wish they would say something like "accurate to a nano-second" or whatever.
1 second every 30 billion years? That's more than twice as long as the age of the universe. So why then would atomic clock developers need to go any further?
You bring the initial inklings of the story to the public's attention, bringing them to the edge of their seat and then don't follow up on it. It causes people to hunger for news as a source of entertainment. What it really becomes is terrorism, striking fear and doubt into the minds of millions of people who think that they live in the worst possible time in the history of the earth.
If they did, magically the people who need to see it would not be watching.
I work at a military base in southern Indiana and I swear every time something that I think the people there should see to sway their opinion comes on CNN or Fox in the breakroom, nobody is watching. But they are all in there when something that reinforces their opinion is there.
SO let me guess, if the Internet2 body of members rejects them, then the MPAA will take that to mean that they are hiding something and should be watched. So the MPAA lobbyists will harp on congress to pass laws that make it required that all networks that are paid by tax dollars be monitored by any industry advocacy group that requests it.
This is really cool. IMHO this was a major medium that was lacking a web interface. There were a lot of times when I would search for a piece of information that I new was in a paper, but wasn't archived on the net anywhere.
My first time in the paper: Front page of Times Union on Feburary 19th/20th, 1989.
And amounts to 40GB or so of mail per day (~10K per message). Which is two whole T1 lines just for mail. Probably 2-4GB for the logging of all this mail. 16TB per year. I wonder if they are archiving it all someplace.
Also, why is using this "for play" not a valid reason for it to be offered?
It is a valid reason, so long as it lasts. It might appeal to a niche market who will pay for it, but for most people, they will try it for a few days, think its neat to move around the world in 3d. But eventually will find no entertainment in it. IMHO, this is the same problem virtual environments like Second Life fail. There is not much reason to come back. You fly around for a while, get bored and forget about it.
I think where Keyhole might shine though is if it where encorporated into GPS devices and palmtops, where it could enhance mapping equipment for people's cars.
Sure its nice, and fun to browse, but I don't see a real good consistent profit motive for providing satelite imagery. Who needs it that can't get it already at a local courthouse, etc.
Since the logic of this doesn't make much since, it is easy to speculate that large companies are saying this as a tactic to milk people for all they can at a certain speed and all the ones inbetween DSL speed s and fiber to the house. Typical corporate consumer upgrade strategy.
I used that app for a while too. We didn't have TV for the last 6 months up until this fall. It was nice and my wife and I got a lot of other stuff done, including starting a business. Its amazing what TV sucks out of you. We turned it on again so that we didn't overwork ourselves. Its good to have a break now and again.
I've been tempted to buy a Tivo, but I don't want to dedicate that much to watching TV.
I have always thought that using CRT monitors heavily has caused nearsidedness in a lot of people. Now, I know the arguement that people who normally don't need to wear glasses, feel the need to wear some kind of reading glasses to read the monitor. But on top of that, in my lifetime I have seen so many cases of people becoming nearsided within months of owning their first computer. An eye doctor once told me that when looking at a CRT, your eyes end up focusing about an inch or two behind the actual image.
See, that is what I'm talking about. What is this 'War' that you talk about? You're using terminology that is not in common tech usage and is most likely just related to java.
And its not just a matter of doing what you said. The client wanted Fedora Core 3 installed, which lacks Java stuff and so compiling Ant alone because problematic. In the end I wound up convincing them to let me install Fedora Core 2, which comes with all those packages.
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[sarc]Ok, you're right, my post is offtopic.[/sarc]
Run down and hard to find what you want.
I spent over an hour this weekend trying to simply find a document explaining the variables that need to be set to get java going. This was so that java would be available to users on the server that I am setting up, not so that I could use it.
So I asked around as to where I could find such a document, any I was pointed to documents that went over everything BUT setting up these variables.
Sun's website was less than helpful in determining how to get started. Most of the documentation there is for people who already know about Java.
The last time I really did any Java programming was back in 1998.
With Linux, it is easy to see how to get started, there are tons of documents on it. Sure, I could have gone out to the web and searched for the variables you need to set for Java to work, but why should I have to? I downloaded the java 2 sdk FROM Sun, why can't I get my information from Sun.
Grid Application Server based on the LAMP
So does that make it a GAS LAMP?
*ta dit boom*
I remember there was a type of object based visual language for programming/scripting on the Amiga, I can't remember what it was called. But I always thought that if someone could standardize that and make it more available and versatile that it would be the programming language of the future. And that it would allow everyone to make programs.
It's also kind of like in Star Trek: TNG, the episode where Dr. Crusher has to program the computer to calculate who all those speices DNA will map out to the star charts. You get the impression that she is doing something very complex in an object oriented way. Of course, that's Sci-Fi and made for TV, but still.
Really? Because when they say "loses one second every billion years", it sounds like they are using it to keep time.
For what its worth, I understand tht atomic clocks are more used for minute time measurement than keeping time. But I wish they would say something like "accurate to a nano-second" or whatever.
1 second every 30 billion years? That's more than twice as long as the age of the universe. So why then would atomic clock developers need to go any further?
This is the way news works.
You bring the initial inklings of the story to the public's attention, bringing them to the edge of their seat and then don't follow up on it. It causes people to hunger for news as a source of entertainment. What it really becomes is terrorism, striking fear and doubt into the minds of millions of people who think that they live in the worst possible time in the history of the earth.
If they did, magically the people who need to see it would not be watching.
I work at a military base in southern Indiana and I swear every time something that I think the people there should see to sway their opinion comes on CNN or Fox in the breakroom, nobody is watching. But they are all in there when something that reinforces their opinion is there.
SO let me guess, if the Internet2 body of members rejects them, then the MPAA will take that to mean that they are hiding something and should be watched. So the MPAA lobbyists will harp on congress to pass laws that make it required that all networks that are paid by tax dollars be monitored by any industry advocacy group that requests it.
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This is really cool. IMHO this was a major medium that was lacking a web interface. There were a lot of times when I would search for a piece of information that I new was in a paper, but wasn't archived on the net anywhere.
My first time in the paper: Front page of Times Union on Feburary 19th/20th, 1989.
And amounts to 40GB or so of mail per day (~10K per message). Which is two whole T1 lines just for mail. Probably 2-4GB for the logging of all this mail. 16TB per year. I wonder if they are archiving it all someplace.
Also, why is using this "for play" not a valid reason for it to be offered?
It is a valid reason, so long as it lasts. It might appeal to a niche market who will pay for it, but for most people, they will try it for a few days, think its neat to move around the world in 3d. But eventually will find no entertainment in it. IMHO, this is the same problem virtual environments like Second Life fail. There is not much reason to come back. You fly around for a while, get bored and forget about it.
I think where Keyhole might shine though is if it where encorporated into GPS devices and palmtops, where it could enhance mapping equipment for people's cars.
Ok sure, but I imagine that surveyors seek out the tools they need, they don't expect them to be on the frontpage of google.
What I'm asking is "is the everyday joe blow going to be using a tool like this on a daily basis for something other than play?".
It appears on the frontpage for me. Coming from Bloomington, IN
Sure its nice, and fun to browse, but I don't see a real good consistent profit motive for providing satelite imagery. Who needs it that can't get it already at a local courthouse, etc.
Unless someone can show me otherwise.
That can't be good for science.
That can't be good for anybody.
Since the logic of this doesn't make much since, it is easy to speculate that large companies are saying this as a tactic to milk people for all they can at a certain speed and all the ones inbetween DSL speed s and fiber to the house. Typical corporate consumer upgrade strategy.
And like most inventions that let you put things off. You end up never watching it at a later time and scrambling for a blank tape the next time.
My dad has hundreds of VHS tapes of programs that he will never end up watching. Maybe %10 of them, but not even close to half of them. What a waste.
I used that app for a while too. We didn't have TV for the last 6 months up until this fall. It was nice and my wife and I got a lot of other stuff done, including starting a business. Its amazing what TV sucks out of you. We turned it on again so that we didn't overwork ourselves. Its good to have a break now and again.
I've been tempted to buy a Tivo, but I don't want to dedicate that much to watching TV.
And with LCD monitor prices dropping through the roof, you can almost afford two 21" LCDs.
I have always thought that using CRT monitors heavily has caused nearsidedness in a lot of people. Now, I know the arguement that people who normally don't need to wear glasses, feel the need to wear some kind of reading glasses to read the monitor. But on top of that, in my lifetime I have seen so many cases of people becoming nearsided within months of owning their first computer. An eye doctor once told me that when looking at a CRT, your eyes end up focusing about an inch or two behind the actual image.
This may be the one that ends up regulating internet radio.
See, that is what I'm talking about. What is this 'War' that you talk about? You're using terminology that is not in common tech usage and is most likely just related to java.
And its not just a matter of doing what you said. The client wanted Fedora Core 3 installed, which lacks Java stuff and so compiling Ant alone because problematic. In the end I wound up convincing them to let me install Fedora Core 2, which comes with all those packages.