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Gates 'World's Most-Spammed Man'

acehole writes "Bill Gates receives up to four million emails a day, and is probably the most spammed person in the world. But unlike ordinary users, he has an entire department to filter unsolicited " At least now I know why he never replies to my requests for an interview ;)

424 comments

  1. Why not release it? by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since he DOES have an entire department creating software to filter out spam, why doesn't he RELEASE said filters and help the rest of the world out? Hell, its MS... why not at least sell it and try to make that department profitable??

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    1. Re:Why not release it? by kaje103 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe what he means is, he has an entire department to filter out just his email address

    2. Re:Why not release it? by RazzleFrog · · Score: 5, Funny

      Probably because it is based on something open-source like SpamAssassin.

    3. Re:Why not release it? by Orgazmus · · Score: 0, Redundant

      He got himself a department to filter out his mail, not to make software that filters the mail

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    4. Re:Why not release it? by daves · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since he DOES have an entire department creating software to filter out spam, why doesn't he RELEASE said filters and help the rest of the world out?

      In his case, I suspect the filters are human.

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    5. Re:Why not release it? by vidarh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because they're all targetted to HIS e-mail patterns, which surely includes being signed up to thousands of mailing lists, having his address regularly entered on websites by people who don't want to give out their own address, etc.

    6. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well it doesn't actually say they create spam filtering software, just that there is an entire department dedicated to filtering their mail. The "technologies" used for filering are probably a computer and a poorly paid Chinese sweat shop worker.

    7. Re:Why not release it? by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      From the article:
      "And so we have special technology which just filters (spam). Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it."

      I don't see Balmer calling people "special technology."

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    8. Re:Why not release it? by ColorMeLucky · · Score: 1

      Probably because releasing said code would make it open for public scrutiny and, thus, being circumvented by millions of spammers out there. Ballmer's comment in the ref'd article, "And so we have special technology which just filters (spam)" is just seething with the "security through obscurity" mantra of Microsoft.

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    9. Re:Why not release it? by kb0pin · · Score: 1

      If the filters are human, then how come a few spam messages get through the filters, as mentioned in the email?

    10. Re:Why not release it? by Wapiti-eater · · Score: 0, Troll

      Interesting question: Does even Billy G have enough pocket change to pay for a tech to visit every XP PC in the country - even just once. fix something, check it - do something useful to improve the system....

      If he dosen't, re-calc against the assets of MS?

      Basicly - if the settlement of some mythical suit forced 'em to personally go around and fix stuff - could they stay solvent?

      Someone with one of those fancy HP number crunchers figure it up. Aughta be good for killing a few minutes in class as well as earn ya some karma points.

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    11. Re:Why not release it? by frugle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of over 30 billion e-mails being sent daily, some experts estimate that over 40% is Spam.

      Google informs me that 40% of 30 billion = 12 000 000 000

      and (4 000 000 / 12 000 000 000) * 100 = 0.0333333333

      That gives Bill Gates a measly 0.03% Market share of Spam. I think we should help Microsoft grow by forwarding all our unwanted spam to Bill.

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    12. Re:Why not release it? by Chief+Typist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While there is obviously some human intervention involved, I suspect that there is also some kind of automation. Four million messages a day would just be too many people.

      It would be interesting to know what this automation is -- ah the irony if some OSS project was being utilized (SpamAssassin, DSPAM, etc.)

      -ch

    13. Re:Why not release it? by Pad-Lok · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they think Bill needs viagra or he wants to help some nigerian millionare to transfer some funds?

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    14. Re:Why not release it? by Otter · · Score: 5, Insightful
      More likely, this was an off-the-cuff semi-joke from Ballmer that everyone here is reading way too closely. I very much doubt that there is in actuality either a "department" or "special technology" handling Gates' email. Ballmer is saying "Yes, we know this is a problem. Given the mail we get, we could hardly not know."

      By the way, note that the top three stories in the Australian news are "Wallaby escapes police action", "Bat swoops to bite woman" and "Passengers save bus from plunge". Gotta love Australia!

    15. Re:Why not release it? by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      spambayes does integrate VERY WELL with Outlook....

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    16. Re:Why not release it? by bicho · · Score: 1

      I think they rather are a few thousand monkeys at the keyboards.

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    17. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the filters are human, it's all the more reason to release them!

    18. Re:Why not release it? by Singletoned · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Google informs me that 40% of 30 billion = 12 000 000 000"

      You had to use Google to work out 40% of 30 billion? I don't think you belong here.

    19. Re:Why not release it? by Singletoned · · Score: 5, Funny

      He should get a GMail account and scrap the department.

    20. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh man you're so cool and geeky *puke*

    21. Re:Why not release it? by hankwang · · Score: 1
      spambayes does integrate VERY WELL with Outlook....

      ... but is way too slow too handle that amount of spam. Unless you use a Beowulf cluster... o wait, never mind. :)

    22. Re:Why not release it? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      country=US?
      every XP PC...hmm...can we just say every household that has a PC? (ignore companies..they have IT depts, ignore nonXP OSs, figure multiple PCs in a houshold balance out those numbers)

      105,000,000 Households, 51% have computers in them. Say 54,000,000 computers to "fix"

      $60,000,000,000 in cash on hand leaves $1,100 per pc for repairs. If Gates could hire base level techs directly, he'd probably end up paying $35/hr, burdened, to be generous. Now, lets say he deployed from one location, and sent techs out on 5 day repair missions. $500 plane ticket, $250 car rental, 4x$80/nite=$320 hotel, 5x35 M&IE=$175 = $1250. In a week of 40 hours, this tech will need to fix n computers, where 1100n=(1250+40*35).

      n=2.4 computers per week, on average. Add 30% for management overhead on the whole shebang, and you'll have to do about 3 per week. That seems extremely doable.

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    23. Re:Why not release it? by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 1

      One word. Interns.

      Mom guess what I got the internship at MS... ...few days later....
      This is you cube you will sit here and go through email that have a sender in the range of st*@hotmail.com and sv*@hotmail.com

      {bad)Joking asisde it has to have a lot of automation just reading the subject line of 4 million messages at one subject a second every second would take apx 65 years.

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    24. Re:Why not release it? by CSG_SurferDude · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a side note, the "Wallaby" was a Rugby player, not one of those cute little animals.

    25. Re:Why not release it? by JPriest · · Score: 1

      A department of living and breating people is open source like SpamAssassin?

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    26. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he has an enough indians working for him that they just have to decide on one email per day if it is spam or not.... hey, that gives me an idea...

    27. Re:Why not release it? by Jason+R · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think it's 46 days actually.
      4e6 / 60 = 66.6e3 mins
      66e3 mins / 60 = 1111hrs
      1111hrs / 24 = 46 days.

    28. Re:Why not release it? by stixman · · Score: 1

      Somebody send him an invite and see what happens. :) I would but I've only got one left...

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    29. Re:Why not release it? by blowdart · · Score: 2, Funny

      Living and breathing? That's not very Assassin like. Can't MS implement anything right?

    30. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're all made out of fractal algorithms.

    31. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, I bet nobody's done THAT before.

      Gooooooood one.

    32. Re:Why not release it? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      The filters are his Mole Man Army. He doesn't release them because they're chained to their desks.

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    33. Re:Why not release it? by Technonotice_Dom · · Score: 1

      It's been said before (I think in the context of DSpam) that humans don't have a 100% rate for spotting spam, false negatives etc. I know when I train my spam filter, I'm sometimes unsure whether to feed it some newsletters - some mailings/press releases I do actually want, but others, which are very similar in style, I now consider rubbish.

      Gates might also have different opinions on what constitutes spam to some members on a human spam filtering team. He might see requests for interviews as spam while the filter people wouldn't. Not to mention after a day of reviewing messages on a screen, somebody might hit the wrong button.

      I remember some people claiming certain spam engines (DSpam again?) were actually more reliable than humans. What if I do have a Nigerian friend anyway, who happens to be the daughter of a rich business man who wants to transfer funds to my bank account? ;-)

    34. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0.03% of global spam for a single recipient address smells fishy to me, I reckon MS is making up this figure.

      PS what is up with all this rolex spam lately

    35. Re:Why not release it? by flibuste · · Score: 1

      That doesn't remove the exotism of down-under...

    36. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a wallabat?

    37. Re:Why not release it? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 4, Funny

      In his case, I suspect the filters are human.

      Or possibly Morlocks.

    38. Re:Why not release it? by Mark-Allen · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, believe me. He really belongs here. This is the norm.

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    39. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      let's see... GMail gives 1000 MB for mail storage (including spam)
      1000 MB * 2^10 KB/MB * 2^10 B/KB = 1,048,576,000 bytes
      1,048,576,000 bytes / 4,000,000 email/day = 262.144 bytes * day / email

      so if, on average, each email Bill receives per day is 262.144 bytes Bill would fill a GMail account in one day.

      Not sure GMail is heavy-duty enough for him. :)

    40. Re:Why not release it? by Elminst · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah... they're obviously Mentats.
      They have a whole office chanting, "It is by will alone that I set my mind in motion."

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    41. Re:Why not release it? by timmyf2371 · · Score: 1

      Bill, Tim Farrell has invited you to open a Google mail account

      Tim Farrell
      to Bill - 5:12pm (0 minutes ago)
      I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. Here's
      an invitation to create an account.

      Tim Farrell has invited you to open a free Gmail account. The invitation
      will expire in three weeks and can only be used to set up one account.

      To accept this invitation and register for your account, visit
      Link Removed

      Once you create your account, Tim Farrell will be notified with
      your new @gmail.com address so you can stay in touch with Gmail!

      If you haven't already heard about Gmail, it's a new search-based webmail
      service that offers:

      - 1,000 megabytes (one gigabyte) of free storage
      - Built-in Google search that instantly finds any message you want
      - Automatic arrangement of messages and related replies into
      "conversations"
      - Text ads and related pages that are relevant to the content of your
      messages

      Gmail is still in an early stage of development. But If you set up an
      account, you'll be able to keep it even after we make Gmail more
      widely available. We might also ask for your comments and suggestions
      periodically and we appreciate your help in making Gmail even better.

      Thanks,

      The Gmail Team

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    42. Re:Why not release it? by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1
      BWAHAHA. And here I was using procmail to filter my spam out to a holding pen, when I could have simply forwarded it on to bill.gates@microsoft.com. If all the worlds nerds did this to their spam I bet we'd see the war on spam heat up considerably.

      As for the department he has, I suspect that they'll be working their way through the possibly misclassified stuff looking for false positives rather than actually coding a spam tool.

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    43. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... because they're only human.

    44. Re:Why not release it? by Folmer · · Score: 1

      I guess that he doesnt have any troubles in bed...

    45. Re:Why not release it? by TheLibero · · Score: 1

      why doesn't he RELEASE said filters and help the rest of the world out? Actually he's trying to do that through this project. (They are creating an RFC to have mail authentication using "Microshit" patented methods) But I doubt we would like to accept :) . It's just market Mr. Gates is predicting money from.

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    46. Re:Why not release it? by vettemph · · Score: 1
      I'll bet it's even easier than that.
      IF "To" = "billgates@microsoft.com" THEN Forward_to_trash
      ELSE IF "To" = "BigLatexBILDO@microsoft.com" THEN Place_in_inbox

      If you know bills secret email address you can email him. otherwise you have to get through his "filter".

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    47. Re:Why not release it? by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 1

      d'oh. thats what i get for not checking my work. thanks.

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    48. Re:Why not release it? by taylortbb · · Score: 1

      I sent an invite to Hotmail support, I never got a response back though :(, and they didn't take my invitation, they probably all already have them.

    49. Re:Why not release it? by KyleJacobson · · Score: 0

      I dont know why he doesnt release it, but the bastards only getting half my emails... I coulda sworn that program was supposed to send 10 million a day :(

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    50. Re:Why not release it? by boskone · · Score: 1

      http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/downloads/2003/i mf/default.asp

      they did

    51. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "...why doesn't he RELEASE said filters..."

      Probably because the filters are implemented using SpamAssassin with Sendmail on a Linux box.

      :)

    52. Re:Why not release it? by Cougem · · Score: 1

      In his case, I suspect the filters are human.

      Or the closest anyone could be to human doing a job consisting of deleting 300,000 e-mails about how small their penises are.

      Half of me hope they're female and so wont be able to relate. The other half of me worries they're female and might start to.

    53. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see Balmer calling people "special technology."

      Why not? Seems perfectly in character to me.

    54. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, how about our Morlock OVERLORDS.

    55. Re:Why not release it? by bseaver20 · · Score: 0

      We all know he's got an alias set to forward to a gmail account...

    56. Re:Why not release it? by frugle · · Score: 1

      Sorry if you think I was having a troll at the Americans - upon re-reading it certainly seems that way.

      The original meaning, established in the 15th century, was a million squared which is where the bi comes from.

      THAT's what I meant by a REAL one.

      In the 17th century a small number of French and Italian scientists began using billion to describe 10^9 (not 10^8) after the grouping of numbers was changed from six digits to three.

      Both systems were in fact invented by the French, but are called British and American "for convenience".

      Lets hope this clears things up!

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    57. Re:Why not release it? by isecore · · Score: 1

      A department of living and breating people is open source like SpamAssassin?

      Well, in a manner of speaking the human species is open-source. It's just that reading the source (i.e. the DNA) is something we haven't quite mastered yet.

      But it's not like god (or whoever/whatever deity you may/may not believe in) comes down from the skies and pokes us in the stomach and says "uh-uh-uh!" when we try to reverse-engineer natures (or gods, re: previous parenthesis) own source-code.

      And just like open-source software the human being is constantly being developed upon, albeit so very slowly that we cannot see it for ourselves. But each new baby that's born (the nightlies, hahaha) is a little different than the previous generation. Sometimes this backfires on the whole community *cough*georgewbush*cough* but in general there's improvement.

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    58. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you don't get it. The department doesn't write software to filter his mail, they *filter* it. By hand. All of it.

    59. Re:Why not release it? by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      hah. More likely you'd see the war on the world's nerds heat up considerably.

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    60. Re:Why not release it? by Dimble+ThriceFoon · · Score: 1

      i do my best, i use support@msn.com for every log-on that permits me to sign up with it.

    61. Re:Why not release it? by mr.hawk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They probably will, soon - this article is probably meant to spark interest prior to the launch.

    62. Re:Why not release it? by RazzleFrog · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Can I offer you a class in reading comprehension? Original poster asked why Microsoft doesn't release the software created by the department. I responded that it probably is based on open source.

    63. Re:Why not release it? by lav-chan · · Score: 1

      NERD ALERT

    64. Re:Why not release it? by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      So what's bill gate's email address? The article neglected to mention that.

    65. Re:Why not release it? by someone1234 · · Score: 1

      It has leaked out.
      I hope fair use lets me publish that the most important part of their spam filtering software uses "> /dev/null"

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    66. Re:Why not release it? by CreatureComfort · · Score: 1



      I've always used billg@microsoft.com. I guess this story shows that it is working.

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    67. Re:Why not release it? by l0b0 · · Score: 1

      Too bad forwarding spam doesn't gain anybody, bandwidth-wise. Which brings me to something entirely off-topic: Copying is to stealing what deleting spam is to regaining bandwidth.

    68. Re:Why not release it? by BlindRobin · · Score: 1

      Morlocks.... perhaps a few but I'm sure that the greatest portionof them are OoooppaaaahLoooooompaaaaahs...........

    69. Re:Why not release it? by joto · · Score: 1
      Of over 30 billion e-mails being sent daily, some experts estimate that over 40% is Spam.

      Huh? Only 40%?

      What is people doing these days? Doing nothing but sending emails? What happened to talking face-to-face, or phones? I am certainly getting a lot more than 40% spam. 95% would be more believable.

    70. Re:Why not release it? by 1lus10n · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Still beats the shit out of:
      "Bush rules world, passes more laws" or ...
      "Bush is evil he must be stopped, VOTE" or ...
      "Gang war escalates, 33 dead so far" or ...
      "Kids are getting fatter" or ...
      "You are all so stupid you will read this anyway" or ...

      There are your american headlines. They will vary a little depending on what section of the shithole you live in.

      I'll take the rugby player.

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    71. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or better yet, attach a dept that agressively investigates and prosecutes spammers.

    72. Re:Why not release it? by joto · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Well, in a manner of speaking the human species is open-source.

      Yeah, in the same manner of speaking that Microsoft Word is open source. Let's face it, raw DNA is not the preferred way to modify the human genome. Neither is a binary executable the preferred way to modify a word-processor.

      It's just that reading the source (i.e. the DNA) is something we haven't quite mastered yet.

      Ok, that's a possibility too. But I can't really see any plausible reason for nature to make it easy for us to decode DNA. It's meant for execution by cells, not for easy comprehension (or modification) by genetic engineers.

      And just like open-source software the human being is constantly being developed upon, albeit so very slowly that we cannot see it for ourselves. But each new baby that's born (the nightlies, hahaha) is a little different than the previous generation. Sometimes this backfires on the whole community *cough*georgewbush*cough* but in general there's improvement.

      Actually, there's no good reason to believe human evolution is for the better. Ever since humans discovered farming, we no longer need to be intelligent enough to outwit our prey, or strong enough to kill it, or fast enough to catch it, or having a good enough immune system to eat rotten food, or being able to care for our children in this environment for umpteen years, etc...

      In fact, in modern society it's even worse. Due to the fact that the state will take care of you and your children even if you can't do it yourself, the only skill you need to create surviving offspring is to have low enough demands to get laid by someone (no matter how stupid, annoying, ugly, etc), and to be stupid enough not to wear condoms.

      Humans have probably "devolved" ever since the neanderthals, and as the society gets "better", the individuals detoriate at an ever increasing rate.

      An interesting side-note (just to be politically correct), is that those who advocate racial purity (e.g. nazis), seems to prefer those who have lived in modern society for the longest period of time. They probably should prefer bushmen instead.

    73. Re:Why not release it? by outsider007 · · Score: 1

      the only skill you need to create surviving offspring is to have low enough demands to get laid by someone

      It sounds like you're having a hard time finding a date.
      Maybe you should consider going back on your meds.

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    74. Re:Why not release it? by LO0G · · Score: 1

      I'd love to see what gmail does when one mailbox all of a sudden starts getting 4 million email messages a day.

      That'd be humorous to say the least.

    75. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a vagina. This is a vagina on your face. Learn it, love it, and for god's sake NOBODY FUCKING CARES about whatever that was. Hippie.

    76. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe what he means is that not enough people are /.ing Darl's inbox.

    77. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Let's face it, raw DNA is not the preferred way to modify the human genome.

      No, there's an API which I certainly prefer :-)

    78. Re:Why not release it? by sparkz · · Score: 1
      PS what is up with all this rolex spam lately

      Oh no, it isn't, is it?
      I'm going to have to buy a whole new load of Christmas presents now!

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    79. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Bill would quit signing up for those file sharing programs for free music, maybe he wouldn't have quite the problem....

    80. Re:Why not release it? by walt-sjc · · Score: 1

      Seems to me that Gates has a vested interest in seeing technology evolve that reduces spam. It costs MS serious money just for Bill's account alone.

      Why then did MS basically kill sender-ID with draconian licensing terms? Seems that this is the kind of technology that they would WANT out there being used by everyone. It's pretty clear that the MS legal department has way too much influence.

    81. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Evolution does not tend towards some platonic ideal of species. Terms like "de-evolved" are meaningless.

      Some genes improve the chances of survival and replication of their host, and some do not. The ones that do will tend to flourish. That is all.
      And what is a useful adaptation in one generation may be a handicap in the next.

      Your notions of improvement, or getting better, are human constructs with little meaning in nature.

      You might argue that, for instance, at the moment poor people are better adapted for replication, but you would have to consider the fact that the cause of poverty is overwhelmingly socio-economic and has little to do with genetics.

      Furthermore the timescale you're basing your speculations on is so minute that it is difficult to say anything meaningful about the trends in human evolution.

    82. Re:Why not release it? by memco · · Score: 1

      Dude, this is /., "News for nerds. . ." OR You must be new here.

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    83. Re:Why not release it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're reading a Rupert Murdoch paper. What do you expect?

      It's like going to Fox News to get real news.

    84. Re:Why not release it? by BokLM · · Score: 1

      I wonder how much time it take for him to receive an email. If it has to go throught a human filter, it can take some time ...

    85. Re:Why not release it? by julesh · · Score: 1

      I think if you get into work in the morning, destined to do battle with four million spam e-mails, it would be more appropriate to chant "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow my fear to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone I will turn my inner eye to see its path. And where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

    86. Re:Why not release it? by coolmadsi · · Score: 0

      I found this on another news sourse reuters

      However, only a few junk e-mails get through to Gates's inbox thanks to anti-spam technology that filters his messages, Ballmer said at a Microsoft event in Singapore.

      By reading that, it says technology so i would assume that there is some software filters, not humans although he probably uses a mixture of both.

  2. I think I see the problem by MoxCamel · · Score: 5, Funny
    At least now I know why he never replies to my requests for an interview ;)

    Here's a tip:

    When asking for an interview, do not also offer to enlarge his penis. Mox

    1. Re:I think I see the problem by rusty0101 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's right. Forward all of those offers to Melinda.

      --
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    2. Re:I think I see the problem by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

      "do not also offer to enlarge his penis"

      Yeah, he's a big enough dick as it is

      (just kidding)

      ontopic: at least there is SOME justice in the world.

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    3. Re:I think I see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When asking for an interview, do not also offer to [sic]enlarge his penis. Mox"

      Try suck

    4. Re:I think I see the problem by peterprior · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tip? Penis? Reminds me of the good old leper joke.

      What did the leper say to the prostitute?
      You can keep the tip..

    5. Re:I think I see the problem by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

      It probably also helps not to open the email with "Dear M$ Luser LOLOMGWTF!!!1!"

    6. Re:I think I see the problem by david.given · · Score: 4, Funny
      Reminds me of the good old leper joke.

      This is obviously some strange new meaning of the word 'good' that I wasn't previously aware of...

    7. Re:I think I see the problem by peterprior · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.cowla rk.com/

      This is obviously some strange new meaning of the word 'valid' that I wasn't previously aware of...

    8. Re:I think I see the problem by david.given · · Score: 1
      This is obviously some strange new meaning of the word 'valid' that I wasn't previously aware of...

      Ta; fixed.

      (I never even considered that & was invalid inside quoted strings as attribute arguments...)

      Incidentally, not that I'm complaining, but do you usually go around verifying random strangers' home pages?

    9. Re:I think I see the problem by peterprior · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (waaay waay off topic now)

      Umm.. Yes?

      Too many sites whack those w3c valid stamps on their homepages without checking they are valid from time to time.

      Knowing there is one less of those means I can sleep tonight and might even be allowed another airhole in my box :)

      Oh damn. Today is Thursday. Maybe not then.

    10. Re:I think I see the problem by david.given · · Score: 1
      Knowing there is one less of those means I can sleep tonight and might even be allowed another airhole in my box :)

      Ha. Well, thanks again...

    11. Re:I think I see the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Bill Gates gave a speech at CMU, he showed some of the spam he received. One was for university diplomas. Another was for legal services. He said he thought he could use that. :)

    12. Re:I think I see the problem by KillerDeathRobot · · Score: 1

      At least now I know why he never replies to my requests for an interview ;)

      Either that, or it's the fact that the Microsoft icon for the site is Bill as a borg...

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    13. Re:I think I see the problem by IdleTime · · Score: 2, Funny
      Here's a tip:

      When asking for an interview, do not also offer to enlarge his penis.


      Why not? That normally works all the time for female journalists interviewing males. Been that way for years...
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    14. Re:I think I see the problem by MMMDI · · Score: 1

      659 "errors" on my site, and it displays perfectly in a standards-compliant browser.

      Damn, I'm smooth. *pelvic thrust*

    15. Re:I think I see the problem by Cougem · · Score: 3, Funny

      Reminds me of the good old leper joke.

      No no no, that's the mediocre leper joke. The funny leper joke is:

      What's green and melts in the mouth?
      A leper's penis.

  3. none by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    almost first... bgates@gmail.com

  4. Email Required by kb0pin · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm comforted to know that when I use billgates@microsoft.com when signing up for something stupid, or for those sites that require an email for download, he actually gets those emails.

    1. Re:Email Required by emc · · Score: 5, Informative

      it's billg@microsoft.com

    2. Re:Email Required by Orgazmus · · Score: 1

      You know you shouldn't say these things out loud, right?
      Or worse, post it on a public board.
      He WILL get you back

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    3. Re:Email Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Parent lies.

      That fucker still hasn't coughed up the $2 per mail I forwarded for Microsoft's tracking experiment a few years ago.

    4. Re:Email Required by peterprior · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ooops.. sounds like postmaster@microsoft.com might get even more :)

    5. Re:Email Required by Bastian · · Score: 1

      If I remember right, the download accelerator Prozilla has billg@microsoft.com set as the default e-mail address to send when logging into anonymous ftp.

    6. Re:Email Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      anyone know Ballmer's?

    7. Re:Email Required by tcpsyn · · Score: 1

      That does give me a warm fuzzy feeling. I'm going to start doing that. That way he can create more jobs for hard working Indians.

    8. Re:Email Required by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      anyone know Ballmer's?

      developersdevelopersdevelopersdevelopers@microsoft .com

      --
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    9. Re:Email Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      steveb@microsoft.com

      I know because I used to work there and my first name is Steve last initial "B".

    10. Re:Email Required by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      This is an old time honored IT tradition. I have been entering bgates@microsoft.com in online forms for years and years, broken only by a 6 month period of using my ex boss's email address (You hear that, Tim? You little prick! Have some spam for lunch!). I am glad to know that all of my hard work has paid off and is employing people.

      --
      music lover since 1969
    11. Re:Email Required by mattbelcher · · Score: 5, Funny

      Back when I was still in school, a MS recruiter came and gave a talk to our ACM. His name was also Bill Gates. His email address was bgates@microsoft.com, which caused all sorts of confusion. Apparently, he would get invitations to dinners and speaking engagements.

      --

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    12. Re:Email Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      RTFA:

      They munged it, but they mention Ballamer's in the article: steveb@microsoft.com

      Apparently, he gives it out in his public speeches.

    13. Re:Email Required by mystkdragon · · Score: 1
      linux_shminux@microsoft.com

      --
      Sometimes one pays most for the things one gets for nothing. -- Albert Einstein
    14. Re:Email Required by rxmd · · Score: 0, Redundant
      anyone know Ballmer's?
      steveb@microsoft.com

      Brought to you in plain text for any spambot to pick up. ;)

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    15. Re:Email Required by julie-h · · Score: 1

      You don't know that=)

      You are just guessing based on steveb@microsoft.com from the /. script.

    16. Re:Email Required by emc · · Score: 1

      Actually, I remember it from the first copy of the "Internet Yellow Pages" back in 1995.

    17. Re:Email Required by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Monkeyboy@microsoft.com - http://www.appleturns.com/scene/?id=3253

    18. Re:Email Required by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Shh! Post it as billg [at] microsoft [dot] com! You don't want him getting spammed by posting it in cleartext, do you?

    19. Re:Email Required by BokLM · · Score: 1

      He says he might be the 2nd most spammed personn in the world, but I think it might not be true.
      Does he do a lot of speeches for spammers ?

  5. Only 4 million per day? by lukateake · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmmm, I would have thought more considering all the unpatched Windows boxes out there.

  6. Aww shucks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Little Billy boy is not getting all the neat goatse and tubgirl pics I keep sending him. He's missing out on some classic comedy!

  7. XP OEM CH33p!\@ by RyanP · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if he gets spam about discounted copies of XP?

    1. Re:XP OEM CH33p!\@ by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, he also has the biggest penis and supply of V1@GR4 in the world

    2. Re:XP OEM CH33p!\@ by Hugonz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe he should go for one of those "College Degrees", being a college dropout...

  8. Well.. by Savant-Ben · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't say that it breaks my heart.. Maybe Bill should get a gmail account. what is his email anyway, I heard it was billg@microsoft.com..

    1. Re:Well.. by falzer · · Score: 1

      luvs2chat@msn.com

    2. Re:Well.. by vally_the_poo · · Score: 1

      > Maybe Bill should get a gmail account.

      I sent him an invite but He never accepted it, Damned.

      I understand why now...

    3. Re:Well.. by ari_j · · Score: 1

      Gmail is invite-only. And I'm not gonna waste mine on billg@microsoft.com. That said, I wonder how many Gmail invites he's actually received, serious or as slaps-in-the-face regarding Hotmail. ;)

    4. Re:Well.. by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

      You shouldn't put his email address online! Spammers have bots that can harvest links like billg@microsoft.com. so make sure you never do that.

  9. you're computer may be infected! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wonder if he clicks on those "your computer may be infected by a virus"

  10. My earlier (rejected) story submission... by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bill Gates world's most spammed man
    CNN and Rediff are reporting that Bill Gates gets 4 million e-mails a day, making him world's most spammed person. However, unlike lesser mortals, he has an entire department dedicated to filter unsolicited e-mails and only a few of them actually get through to his inbox, said Steve Ballmer at a Microsoft Research event in Singapore. Other sources are also reporting the breaking news story.

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    1. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Peyna · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The "entire department" thing sounded quite a bit like an exageration, especially since he said, "Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it."

      In other words, "We pay two kids $5/hr to sit in the basement and sift through this crap."

      Or more likely, "We've got a couple network admins that implemented SpamAssassin for us."

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      What?
    2. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't a Microsoft Research event. You misread the link. The text has Microsoft (Research). (Research) is a link to financial information about Microsoft.

    3. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Parallex · · Score: 1

      Is there any particular reason you include a mailto link to Billy Boy, or are you just making a good thing better? :P

    4. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by filtur · · Score: 1
      The "entire department" thing sounded quite a bit like an exageration, especially since he said, "Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it."

      Come on now, Ballmer would never exaggerate

    5. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Nogeel · · Score: 1

      I wonder if this is like that Dilbert cartoon where he has to be Gates slave because it was in the EULA for Windows? So this is what we will have to do when MS calls our Number? I knew I should have switched to Linux.

    6. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Random_Goblin · · Score: 1

      I would guess that the individuals concerned probably get a bit more than $5/hour, you need people who can actually recognise the wheat from the chaff.

      while offers of cheap viagra can be dealt with by a robot, Bill DOES know millionares looking to invest in XYZ...

      I would be more interested in knowing just how many aliases and dedicated alternate accounts, as well as how large an army of PA's he has so REAL (ie rich/influential) people can get through to him, or if indeed he can use e-mail that way at all anymore?

    7. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least using spamassassin, they can stick to to thier strict regiment of daily rebooting of servers. Spamassassin is so unstable (3.0.x) is sucks.

    8. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure it's the latter. I think his post needs a +1, Funny.

    9. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by BigGar' · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Other sources are also reporting the breaking news story.

      How the hell is the fact that Bill Gates gets a lot of email a "breaking" news story. Is this even news? Who gives a shit. Tell bill to keep a white list and dump the rest to /dev/null. If someone needs to get a hold of him and it's important enough there are ways other than email to get the job done and/or get set up onthe white list.

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    10. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't need much smarts to find the ham that's surrounded by spam. You just need slightly more intelligence than a bayesian filter to get rid of it all.

    11. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by m4vrick · · Score: 1

      Next time you smap, think of the kids. :)

    12. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by the_weasel · · Score: 1

      Hell. When you consider how sensitive some of the stuff that slips through could potentially be, there is no way that this is a low paying job.

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    13. Re:My earlier (rejected) story submission... by julesh · · Score: 1

      If the automatic filters get 97.5% of it (reasonable if you want to make sure you don't miss any real messages), he'll still need about 10 people to filter the remainder by hand, by my estimate. I would say 10 e-mail filterers counts as a department.

  11. Umm.. by Stokey · · Score: 1, Interesting

    More so than president@whitehouse.gov?

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    1. Re:Umm.. by emc · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought president@whitehouse.gov was just an alias to vice-president@whitehouse.gov :)

      Anyone else having a problem imagining Little Bush actually using a computer?

    2. Re:Umm.. by b0r0din · · Score: 1

      It makes sense. Bill Gates and the president are two of the most hated men among people who know how to use email.

      But cussing out or threatening the life of Bill Gates, though, is wiser than cussing out/threatening the life of a guy who endorsed the Patriot Act and doesn't believe in privacy or that POWs have a right to an attorney, instead inventing some made-up term "enemy combatant" to get around the Geneva Convention.

    3. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      To qualify for the protections offered you have to follow the guidelines set.

      Are you sure about that?

    4. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And they are not covered by the Geneva convention since they are not following the Geneva convention when they fight. To qualify for the protections offered you have to follow the guidelines set.

      Oh my dear, you're quite wrong on this one...

    5. Re:Umm.. by MasterOfUniverse · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I highly doubt that Bill gates is as hated as the president in the world. Besides from the CS community, I really don't think many other ppl hate him. Infact I know quite a few ppl here in US and around the globe who really 'admire' him. On the other hand Bush, well we already know that..

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    6. Re:Umm.. by thomasdelbert · · Score: 1

      His secretary prints his e-mails out for him so he can read them.

      - Thomas;

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    7. Re:Umm.. by Teancum · · Score: 1

      On a side note regarding the President, he was originally going to be doing some e-mail with his daughters while they were in college. He was even going to get some msn/aol/yahoo account that would seperate out personal e-mail from official correspondance from "THE PRESIDENT", but some lawyers steped in and were able to prove it would actually be illegal for him to do so, since all electronic communications have to go into an official record that is kept by the national archives.

      Strangely enough, snail-mail doesn't have the same problems, and can be seperated out between personal correspondance and official communication from the Oval Office.

      BTW, if you think that G.W. Bush is really that stupid, I feel sorry for you. Yes, he uses computers. It really isn't that new of an invention, and for some things I'm sure electronic correspondance can be quite effective, not to mention a whole IT team just to take care of everything you can think about doing.

    8. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting to note is that Bill Clinton admitted to only sending a couple of e-mails while he was in the whitehouse . He also admitted that he needed help writing it.
      Luckly he had Al Gore who invented the internet to help him.

    9. Re:Umm.. by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      GWB does email as did Clinton. (I think he found Monica on one of them adult chat sites). But Reagan wouldn't (it was new back then anyway), he wrote all his personal correspondance out longhand.

    10. Re:Umm.. by strict3 · · Score: 0
      --
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    11. Re:Umm.. by Politburo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But cussing out or threatening the life of Bill Gates, though, is wiser than cussing out/threatening the life of a guy who endorsed the Patriot Act and doesn't believe in privacy or that POWs have a right to an attorney, instead inventing some made-up term "enemy combatant" to get around the Geneva Convention.

      Bush just signed off on that. You think he came up with that himself? No, the architect of 'enemy combatant' is Alberto Gonzales, who has been nominated as our next Attorney General.

    12. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not exactly suggesting that GWB is stupid, just a figurehead puppet that is controlled by Dick Cheney and others from Daddy's administration, as well as special interest groups...

    13. Re:Umm.. by kundor · · Score: 1

      Well, it's just been conclusively demonstrated that a lot more people in the US admire Bush than not.

    14. Re:Umm.. by Muhammar · · Score: 1

      ...in large fonts. Long words are listed and explained in executive summary.

      --
      I doubt that we will ever figure out - and I suspect that even if we did figure out we couldn't do much about it
    15. Re:Umm.. by emc · · Score: 1

      No, I don't think that he is actually THAT stupid. He is several steps above 'bumping into walls'.

      I'm actually sure that he spends a whole lot of time searching google for things such as....

      WMD Iraq
      WMD hussein
      iraq al-qaeda
      hussein al-qaeda

      but unfortunatly, the searches keep coming up empty.

    16. Re:Umm.. by Teancum · · Score: 1

      I guess you just like to be personnally insulting. I can understand you may not agree with a policy or an issue, and think he is doing something that you would do better at, but to directly assult his character when you have no reason to believe it is just downright ignorant on your part.

      Mind you, I'm not defending the President's policy here, just defending his personna and suggesting that he may be a slightly more intelligent person than you seem to be making out.

    17. Re:Umm.. by emc · · Score: 1

      He has done far more to damage his own charcter than I could ever do.

      We're in Iraq because they have WMDs...
      no, we're in Iraq to liberate them, we'll be greeted as liberators....
      no, we're in iraq because they worked with Al-Qaeda...
      no, we're in iraq because I'M RESOLVED.

      As for the initial piece that started this conversation, it's humor. Satire. Grow some skin, and move along.

      The Bush administration has been a comedy of errors on domestic and foreign policy. Remember, "Mission Complete" with President Bush flying in to the USS Reagan?

    18. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Mind you, I'm not defending the President's policy here, just defending his personna and suggesting that he may be a slightly more intelligent person than you seem to be making out.

      Or, it could have just been one of those "jokes" you keep hearing about (and apparently not getting).

    19. Re:Umm.. by m50d · · Score: 1
      And they are not covered by the Geneva convention since they are not following the Geneva convention when they fight. To qualify for the protections offered you have to follow the guidelines set.

      However, you are entitled to the protections of the convention until this has been determined by a competent tribunal (see article 5). Which so far none of the people at Guantanamo have got.

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    20. Re:Umm.. by mconeone · · Score: 1

      No, they are read to him. That way every hour has a storytime.

    21. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen him and the kind of IT US fed wages buy which paints the picture of a bunch of shitheads serving a barely literate dyslexic alcoholic turd by shoveling a never ending load of cash into a roaring furnace.

    22. Re:Umm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, it was conclusively demonstrated that more people in the US admire Bush than Kerry. Besides, consensus is not proof.

    23. Re:Umm.. by Teancum · · Score: 1

      Who needs to grow skin here? I mod myself down on a silly comment, and you can't give it a rest. I almost wouldn't reply except that the point I'm trying to make is that through saterical comments, you and those that think like you are going after the President as a person, and in this case that was all that started this thread, when you try to criticize him over things I know for a fact you couldn't possibly know anything about, because if you did know Mr. George Walker Bush in a very personal way there is no way that you would be saying things of that nature. These are out right lies and I'm holding them up as such. It obviously struck such a chord with you that you want to rehash the Iraq War all over again.

      I am trying to seperate criticism of his policies and his person, and apparently you can't overcome that point.

      If you want to get into some more substantive discussions, I suppose I could, including the "Mission Complete" banner, which I thought was very appropriate and accurate. I don't care to elaborate more at the moment.

    24. Re:Umm.. by Teancum · · Score: 1
      Or, it could have just been one of those "jokes" you keep hearing about (and apparently not getting).


      I didn't say I didn't chuckle, but after some time of such repeated jokes, including on supposedly "news" sources and opinion pages, some people really start to believe this junk.

      The problem most people have with George W. Bush is that he stutters and has a speech impediment. That he somehow became President of the USA over that very huge obsticle is IMHO a huge accomplishment, over and above even becoming President itself. If he were in a wheelchair he would have been held up as a poster child for handicaped rights, but instead people take this very serious disability and turn it into his being stupid and moronic. I'm also impressed that he doesn't even claim "victimhood" over the whole thing, and surprised that there hasn't even been one news story about the whole thing. If you know people who stutter personally, listen sometime to one of W's speeches, and you will see that he does have a problem in that area as well.
  12. 4 million? by El_Muerte_TDS · · Score: 1

    He earns that back within a single day.

    1. Re:4 million? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He earns that back within a single day.

      He earns 4 million emails a day?

  13. Work from home by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 0

    Earn up to $5000 a week. I doubt the guy wants a pay cut though.

  14. Thank you spammers by digitalgimpus · · Score: 5, Funny

    For *once* I have to thank spammers for a job well done.

    Now any chance on taking on SCO?

    1. Re:Thank you spammers by no+reason+to+be+here · · Score: 1

      SCO can no longer afford e-mail. They're spending every available dime on lawyers.

    2. Re:Thank you spammers by Pembers · · Score: 1

      Now any chance on taking on SCO?

      For several months, any time I found an "unsubscribe" link in a spam that took you to a web page where you type in the address you want to "unsubscribe"... I would type in one or more of:

      I also imagine Darl (or his secretary, more likely) has been getting rather a lot of phone calls offering to refinance his mortgage. Does that help?

  15. Exchange by peterprior · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm.. 4,000,000 / 86400 (seconds in a day) = ~ 46 emails a second.

    I didn't even know exchange could handle that amount of traffic. And thats just for him..

    1. Re:Exchange by Tassach · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ha. He probably secretly uses Postfix on FreeBSD :-)

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    2. Re:Exchange by dkone · · Score: 1

      Believe me it can, just do a defualt install of exchange and let your open rely be owned. It only takes a couple of days and soon you too will be sending email at a rate greater then 43 per second.

    3. Re:Exchange by suso · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And amounts to 40GB or so of mail per day (~10K per message). Which is two whole T1 lines just for mail. Probably 2-4GB for the logging of all this mail. 16TB per year. I wonder if they are archiving it all someplace.

    4. Re:Exchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      qmail my dear, qmail the right tool for this job. postfix is fine for small to middle mail servers, qmail for large. that's a fact, even if you dislike djb and/or his license.

    5. Re:Exchange by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      I didn't even know exchange could handle that amount of traffic.

      Remember those SCOunix licenses that Microsoft bought a while back?

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    6. Re:Exchange by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      It depends on the mail architecture and the server size. It wouldn't be unusual for a large company to get that many a second during the working hours, just not all to the same person. But not 24 x 7 x 365. I'll bet they got some filters that kill 99% of those mails and I also suspect he has a super-secret email addy for REAL email. I wonder how many Gig's his email folder is! Exchange used to have a limit on Inbox size but you could get around that by creating personal folders. I think that limit is now 4GB for a folder size.

    7. Re:Exchange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is amazing how ignorent people are on subjects they never bothered to RTFM on...

      Exchange can handle it with ease, as can any email service, if it is cfg'ed properly to start with.

    8. Re:Exchange by TomGroves · · Score: 1

      Outlook 2003 Unicode PST (personal folders) can be many TB in size. Exchange 2003 mailboxes can also be very, very, very large.

    9. Re:Exchange by droleary · · Score: 1

      Hmm.. 4,000,000 / 86400 (seconds in a day) = ~ 46 emails a second.

      Interestingly enough, according to this, that's right around his current dollars per second mark. I sure wouldn't mind getting $1 for every spam in my inbox.

    10. Re:Exchange by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      Thats rue but is that what MS is using internally? The numbers are 33TB vs 2GB in Outlook XP. I bet it takes forever to search after a few GB.

    11. Re:Exchange by TomGroves · · Score: 1
      They use Exchange and Outlook.
      OTG manages the global messaging environment that supports Microsoft facilities in more than 400 IT locations in 65 countries. Message traffic averages over 6.3 million messages per day, with around 2.5 million messages per day traveling to and from the Internet.
      Clustering at MS
    12. Re:Exchange by burns210 · · Score: 1

      Who said anything about Exchange?

    13. Re:Exchange by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      I thought the traffic would be higher. At Cisco I was told they (can't say we as I don't work with them now) hit 10M a day on busy days and 7M was average. We only ran Exchange at the mailbox level. We used an email gateway box at the edge (behind the firewalls) and the servers were actually in the UK for all the worldwide email.

  16. Hotmail by The_Rippa · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, ever since hotmail upped it's space to 250mb I've been getting the same amount too.

  17. Weasal Words from Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    "Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it."

    He's so used to spinning he can't even make the most basic of statements without qualifying it. How many people do you think are in charge of going through the billg@microsoft.com email account? A department of 2, perhaps?

    Anyway, I'm just pleased that every single time I sign up for anything off the net I use billg@microsoft.com as my email address.

    1. Re:Weasal Words from Ballmer by octaene · · Score: 1

      I can't think of a worse job -- going through somebody else's spam? Gawd, filtering my own is bad enough... Oh, for the people that have that job, I would like to say, "ha-ha!" (inflection = Nelson from The Simpsons)

    2. Re:Weasal Words from Ballmer by freakmn · · Score: 1

      I just simplify things and use admin@127.0.0.1 for the addresses. That should either give spammers a taste of their own medicine, or make somebody with an open relay think something is up.

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    3. Re:Weasal Words from Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't think of a worse job -- going through somebody else's spam? Gawd, filtering my own is bad enough... Oh, for the people that have that job, I would like to say, "ha-ha!" (inflection = Nelson from The Simpsons)

      That's exactly what we get paid to do at Brightmail (well, mail to honeypots anyway, not someone else's). It's actually kind of fun, but mostly just really repetitive. There's worse jobs in the world than that, believe me (try being in Iraq) .. worse tech jobs even. I'd much rather be an antispam tech than a helplessdesk operator...

  18. Huh... by z1d0v · · Score: 3, Funny

    Aren't these just angry clients? :P

  19. slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Slashdot - yesterdays fark.com articles, today!

  20. Ballmer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I like how Ballmer has to point out that because he gives out his e-mail address at speeches, he is probably number two. I think his ego is getting too big to fit in Redmond. ("I get more spam than you, I must be more special than you?")

    1. Re:Ballmer by AtomicBomb · · Score: 1

      Yeah.... Ballmer has some ego problem... I guess the most spammed man number 2 in the world is George Bush or whoever be the US president at the time... Since Bill Gates is always Bill Gates, he accumulates all those crap through the years. The US president a/c probably gets a bit of rotation....

    2. Re:Ballmer by BokLM · · Score: 1

      Ballmer is just an idiot.

  21. Spam Technologies? by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 1
    I don't know this as a fact, but Bill Gates would probably have a set up like I do for my dad. Some basic opt-in spam filter (I use the one on earthlink), and an actually person which checks them (me). Although in Gates' case, probably opt in + MANY MANY people to check the mail.

    this way, I can make sure nothing important is blocked (as some execs still don't understand how to request to be added to the contact list - a one click process). I've recieved Faxes requesting addition to the list.

    In addition, most times, if it is really important. The individual will call to confirm, etc. And I'm sure Mr. Gates knows who to accept calls from.

  22. most spammed man by Washizu · · Score: 5, Funny

    What does he expect when he keeps sending out those email tracking programs?

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  23. Given an infinite.... by teiresias · · Score: 1

    Given an infinite number of monkeys/Microsoft employees with keyboards, infinite time that they could filter Bill Gates e-mail.

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    1. Re:Given an infinite.... by steveb964 · · Score: 1

      Given an infinite number of monkeys/Microsoft employees with keyboards, infinite time that they could filter Bill Gates e-mail.

      Oh...THIS is why Longhorn keeps getting pushed back, and they are doing nothing with IE.

      Let's do a special slashdot style spamming to the mailbox, and perhaps we can get longhorn pushed back to 2012 or something!

  24. Test suite... by gmuslera · · Score: 4, Funny

    he could try to forward his daily mail to a gmail account to really test spam/virus protection, label classification and how much space is 1gb for that kind of traffic. Even if it works, a good promotion of whatever future service of hotmail is "it performed better than gmail with my mail".

    1. Re:Test suite... by DogDude · · Score: 1

      Good idea. Have all of your personal and business mail forwarded to a mail server of a primary rival. Sure. That's a good idea.

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    2. Re:Test suite... by worst_name_ever · · Score: 5, Interesting
      he could try to forward his daily mail to a gmail account to really test spam/virus protection

      Right, and he could also forward his daily mail to the DOJ, so there aren't any more losses of that pesky incriminating evidence...

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  25. over used joke warning.... by hardaker · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, of course with a name like microsoft you're bound to get email for viagra like products... (excuse me... I should have said V1aGR___a)

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  26. Balmer by pete-classic · · Score: 1

    Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it.

    Just when I thought my opinion of Balmer couldn't sink any lower.

    -Peter

  27. Is it worth a whole department? by igny · · Score: 1

    At what point it won't be cost beneficial to have mail filtering department?

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    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. - Yogi Berra
  28. Story a weak troll. by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Informative
    Nowhere does it say Bill Gates has an entire department to filter his email (though I don't see why he should not, considering he can afford it). It says they have "special technology", and "almost" a whole department (which probably means two or three secretarial types vetting the junk that doesn't get filtered with the "special technology".

    And to all of this, I say "big deal". I would say "nice M$ troll" but it's actually kind of weak.

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    1. Re:Story a weak troll. by rimmon · · Score: 1

      so, what is the meaning of these words in your language:
      "But unlike ordinary users, the software mogul has an entire department to filter unsolicited emails[...]"

    2. Re:Story a weak troll. by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      It means the software mogul has an entire department to filter unsolicited emails. But, that's not what the actual story said.

      Thank you for your input.

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    3. Re:Story a weak troll. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Every executive of a company of a certain size has at least one receptionist-type to support them, usually more. They do stuff like filter email and correspondence to filter out the wackos and spam. Nothing to see here. Besides, a department can be one person.

      --
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    4. Re:Story a weak troll. by Dhalka226 · · Score: 1

      But it DOES mean that Ballmer's word choice literally sucks monkey balls, almost.

      Seriously, with all the times he said "literally" and diluded his statements with "almosts" and "probably" I'm not sure he even said anything at all.

    5. Re:Story a weak troll. by cylcyl · · Score: 1

      did u actually RTFA?

      The article definitely says that Bill Gates has a department and attributes that to Steve Ballmer, whose quote was also included. Just that in the Ballmer quote there was an "almost" in there.

      The parent post was NOT informative, it was actually DISinformation. MODs, please adjust accordingly

    6. Re:Story a weak troll. by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      Did you RTFA?

      It says NOTHING about BG having a department for reading his spam mail; it talks about BG having staff that are "almost" their own department. And, if you Google for other descriptions of the Ballmer talk where he spoke about BG's spam problem, it's even MORE nebulous.

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    7. Re:Story a weak troll. by cylcyl · · Score: 1

      quoting entire article:
      Please read the bolded section of the quoted article :roll:

      Gates 'world's most-spammed man'
      November 18, 2004

      INTERNET junkies, take heart: Microsoft chairman Bill Gates receives four million emails a day, and is probably the most "spammed" person in the world.

      But unlike ordinary users, the software mogul has an entire department to filter unsolicited emails and only a few of them actually get through to his inbox, Microsoft chief executive Steve Ballmer said today.

      "There are two people who probably are the number one spam recipients in the world," Mr Ballmer said referring to Mr Gates and himself.

      "Bill Gates (is number one) because he is Bill Gates. Bill literally receives four million pieces of email per day, most of it spam," Mr Balmer told a conference.

      "And so we have special technology which just filters (spam).

      "Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it."

      Ballmer said he was "probably also amongst the most spammed people in the world" because he gave out his email address - stevebmicrosoft.com - in all his public speeches.

      "I receive many pieces of spam (but) only about 10 of them actually make it into my inbox because of the spam technologies that our IT department implements."

    8. Re:Story a weak troll. by el-spectre · · Score: 1

      Nah man, I mean practically everyone kinda equivocates sometimes, usually. I think.

      (I love adding a bunch of conditionals to an authoritative sounding statement and rendering it meaningless :) )

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  29. Hate Mail by datadriven · · Score: 4, Funny

    They must have hate mail confused with spam.

  30. News for Nerds indeed. by lottameez · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know I was wondering just this morning, just after breakfast, how much spam Bill Gates was getting. "Self", I said, "How many unsolicited emails does Bill Gates, the richest man in the world, get, do you think? Two hundred fifty thousand? A million? What DO you think?"

    I had no answer.
    Until now.

    Thank you slashdot.

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    Yeah? Well I think you're overrated too.
    1. Re:News for Nerds indeed. by twiddlingbits · · Score: 1

      Is that you Emerill?? Playing on this www thingie again? ;)

    2. Re:News for Nerds indeed. by BokLM · · Score: 1

      But you got that answer from Steve Ballmer, the man who is always lying. So that's probobly not the truth.

  31. Spam across the ocean by AstroSurf · · Score: 1, Funny
    Bill Gates receives up to four million emails a day

    Wow! How much money has he sent to Nigeria so far?

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    Astro
    1. Re:Spam across the ocean by Nimloth · · Score: 0
      Actually I believe you got it backwards...

      Ever wonder WHERE he got all that money from? Some nigerian Prince had to transfer ten gazigigantozillion dollars through his bank account, and left him with 2%...

    2. Re:Spam across the ocean by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation doesn't break down their spending by country, but it's donated on the order of like a billion dollars to anti-malaria projects. Nigeria probably gets at least some of it (though it's not really in the right part of Africa for it)

  32. milions of spam? by hviezda14 · · Score: 1

    Well, he should definitely start using mozilla mail client, it's excelent in classifying spam (with help of user with teaching). Can you imagine that excelent performance after learning from few milion spams? :-)

  33. An actual email was published once... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    I think it was "askbill@microsoft.com" - for a short lived newspaper column, IIRC.

    This was BS (before spam).

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  34. SpamAssassin? by jon3k · · Score: 1

    Balmer Says: "I receive many pieces of spam (but) only about 10 of them actually make it into my inbox because of the spam technologies that our IT department implements."

    Gee...I wonder what software they run? :)

    1. Re:SpamAssassin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Gee...I wonder what software they run? :)

      Ballmer probably does the same thing I do on my company's network. I set up a 'Rule' (we use Notes, Ballmer would use Outlook). If the "To:", or "CC:" lines include my name, e-mail address, or a reasonably close spelling of my name, I simply have the Rule delete the e-mail. Since I've implemented that Rule, the amount of spam I receive has decreased dramatically.

      As a bonus, the amount of silly requests from my management team has dropped to almost nothing.

  35. It's not a question of spam by yog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Undoubtedly Gates is just like thousands of other executives; he has assistants who read his email for him. An executive of a company as large and powerful as Microsoft hardly would have time to read and respond to the typical 300-500 emails one gets in a day, let alone the thousands or millions he gets from being famous. I feel sorry for the guy, in a way; he used to be a computer geek just like so many others and he's cut off from part of the internet just by virtue of his success.

    It does sound like an excellent opportunity to leverage some of that computer brainpower they have and create some first class spam filtering technology. With a test base of 4 million spams a day they have all the sample data they will ever need.

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    1. Re:It's not a question of spam by uglyduckling · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I feel sorry for the guy, in a way; he used to be a computer geek just like so many others and he's cut off from part of the internet just by virtue of his success.

      He'll have any number of different e-mail addresses for different purposes, inluding ones that only friends and family know - I'm sure he's not shut off from a part of the internet just because every idiot puts billg@microsoft.com in forms when they don't want to give their own address.

    2. Re:It's not a question of spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how do you keep those assistants motivated, day in and day out?

      "Spam Readers! Spam Readers! SPAM READERS! SPAM READERS! SPAM readers!... spam readers... spam readers!"

    3. Re:It's not a question of spam by koa · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I feel sorry for the guy, in a way; he used to be a computer geek just like so many others and he's cut off from part of the internet just by virtue of his success.

      Actually, since the inception of the internet, there has been this wonderful concept called a 'handle' or 'alias' that works pretty well.. I would not be surprised at all if he surfs the web and uses regular email on a daily basis. Who knows, he probably surfs chat rooms under the assumed identity of a 13 year old girl with braces for all we know. ;>

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    4. Re:It's not a question of spam by byolinux · · Score: 1

      I hear Steve Jobs reads/answers his own email.

    5. Re:It's not a question of spam by Farrside · · Score: 1

      Well, I'm sure OS X's Mail program's Junk Mail feature keeps the spam away from Steve...

    6. Re:It's not a question of spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for all we know, he could post to slashdot under the uid "koa".

      We know it's you, Billy boy, er, little Susie! :#

    7. Re:It's not a question of spam by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      Money?

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    8. Re:It's not a question of spam by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      "he used to be a computer geek just like so many others and he's cut off from part of the internet just by virtue of his success."

      No, he was a geek, not a computer geek. He hired people to do work on MS-DOS. He's the marketing type. He hired people to do his work.

      Steve jobs never did too much neither, it was steve wozniac who did the work, steve jobs did the talking.

    9. Re:It's not a question of spam by jedinite · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Yog said:
      I feel sorry for the guy, in a way; he used to be a computer geek just like so many others and he's cut off from part of the internet just by virtue of his success.
      Yeah, I feel sorry for him, too.

      Good thing he can spend his time screwing supermodels on top of piles of cash, that probably makes up for it in some small way.
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    10. Re:It's not a question of spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't feel like the idiot...the idiot puts his own addy in there.

      Every time some family member needs bloody quicktime installed...billg...seriously...I wonder how many companies just put automatic send to null on billg@microsoft.

    11. Re:It's not a question of spam by memco · · Score: 1

      That's cus he forwards his to Bill. BTW: Anyone know how much mail/spam Jobs gets?

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  36. I wouldn't mind being spammed if by spidereyes · · Score: 1

    I was making billions and could pretty do whatever I wanted. A little off topic but I remember the episodes on SNL more specifically the one about Gates buying Christmas. His biggest dilemma was what to call it, I think it was Micromas or Christmasoft.

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    I say we just grow up, be adults and die.
    1. Re:I wouldn't mind being spammed if by MasterOfUniverse · · Score: 1

      Christmas XP SP2 ;-)

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  37. Your Job Sucks When by nuintari · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your job must suck ass if it, in its entirety, involves sorting through another man's porn/real estate/penis enlargment/cum filled panty spam.

    I can see it now, job description:

    Must be able to sort legitimate email from mass unsolicited email. Ability to tolerate apes a plus, as you will be working a team of them. In fact, your department manager is a chimp. Requires opposable thumbs and general image recognition abilities.

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    slashdot : where an opinion can be wrong.

    1. Re:Your Job Sucks When by cmstremi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Still a better job than "Jizz Mopper"... Barely.

    2. Re:Your Job Sucks When by nuintari · · Score: 1

      I disagree, I could still walk about proudly as a human being if I were a jizmopper. True the job is nasty and gross, but I bet they get free shows, and the ladies probably think nothing of walking naked right around you.

      Now, sorting another man's crap..... is a job monkey's could be trained to do, and I would kill myself.

      One job has naked ladies, the other has eyestrain and bananas. I've made my choice.

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      --Nuintari

      slashdot : where an opinion can be wrong.

  38. Fascinating! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "And so we have special technology which just filters (spam)."

    And what do you call this special technology? What a brilliant new development. Please, Mr. Balmer, you must share this invention with the rest of us. Or, perhaps, is it "sendmail" on "linux" running "spamassassin"? Ah, yes, perhaps so.

    Maybe the admins at my work are just braindead, but apparently everyone's so nervous about Exchange 2000 that they won't run any other mail related software on the Exchange server. So if we want to filter email with other software, it goes on a separate box, and they all get chained together. Which means that if they ever want to find out where an email came from, they have to go through three different sets of logs. This is all black magic to me. I code VBA for a living.

    Is there a right way on Exchange 2000? We'd do all kinds of better spam filtration if implementation was completely better.

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    There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
    1. Re:Fascinating! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      qmail.

    2. Re:Fascinating! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to look into something from Sybari. You should be running antigen already anyway.

    3. Re:Fascinating! by Holi · · Score: 1

      For Exchange I use GFI for filtering. It works pretty well and gets installed on the same box. I just wish it were more configurable.

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    4. Re:Fascinating! by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 1

      Purchase a Barracuda Spam Firewall (see ads on Slashdot for website address). We purchased the smallest one for around $1000, spent 10 minutes rack mounting it and configuring it, and have only had to spend 5 minutes every couple of months to update the firmware (it notifies us via email when new firmware is available). So we spent $1000 and less than 30 minutes a year for a product that has worked flawlessly. It's actually a very cost effective solution. It evens blocks a lot of email viruses.

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    5. Re:Fascinating! by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 1

      And what do you call this special technology? What a brilliant new development. Please, Mr. Balmer, you must share this invention with the rest of us. Or, perhaps, is it "sendmail" on "linux" running "spamassassin"? Ah, yes, perhaps so.

      Not SpamAssassin. It doesn't scale very well. Every incoming message spawns a new perl process. Multiply this by 46 messages a second, peaking at perhaps double or triple that. This kind of load would bring down a small cluster... do you think they have a rack of servers just to deal with BillG's mail?

      A filter written in C would do much better, methinks. Furthermore, it could have a slow learning curve, as he gets enough spam to train it anyway.

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    6. Re:Fascinating! by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      This is basically my solution one way or another, but I don't think it's necessary to purchase a solution, it's just the easiest way to proceed. It's not too hard to put together a spam-filtering mail server that just filters and forwards the remainder to your actual internal mailserver.

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    7. Re:Fascinating! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      So we spent $1000 and less than 30 minutes a year for a product that has worked flawlessly.

      Barracuda still doesn't strike me as the right way. I'm not even sure if it'd be better than our ancient (but serviceable) TrendMicro solution. What is "flawlessly"? Do your users not receive spam? Do innocent bystanders get spammed with bounce messages? Right now, our users don't get viruses via email, but they get a billion virus messages that have been stripped of their payload. That's lame, and there's no good way to turn it off (according to the admins).

      Is there a decent way to implement DomainKeys and SPF (and thus also SASL) in front of or on Exchange for 500 users? The most valuable solution would be one that prevents spam being sent to the CEO forged "from" the VPs, which happens.

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      There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
    8. Re:Fascinating! by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      We've got Barracuda running on our system. We have multiple thresholds - a hard no-one-sees-it-but-the-admin-if-he-checks threshold, a quarantine threshold, and a tagging threshold. No false positives on the first two thresholds, and single-digit false positive rate on the tagging threshold and false negative rate: but we didn't just take it out of the box, we've been doing a lot of bayesian training to perfect it.

    9. Re:Fascinating! by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 1

      We use two different classification levels. The first is tagged spam, the other is blocked spam. Out of over 1,000,000 email messages, I've only had 2 complaints about non-spam being marked as spam. As for messages being blocked, I've scanned the logfiles and have never seen one handled improperly. For an average user per day, we get around 50 blocked, 2-3 tagged, 20 virus infected, and 10 allowed through.

      We turn off all bounce messages on the system, and just glance through the blocked messages log once in a while. If you take the time to train the Baynesian filter, it will be even more accurate than my results.

      I believe they just put in support for SPF (think I noticed it in the latest firmware), but we haven't implemented it yet.

      Barracuda has a 30 day trial, where you can get a unit and try it out. I'd recommend doing so. If you don't like how it works, just return it. The only changes you need to make are to have your firewall point incoming email to the barracuda (instead of your current email server) and then point the cuda to your email server. Simple. :)

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  39. 640 emails.... by underworld · · Score: 5, Funny

    ....ought to be about enough for anyone. ;-)

    1. Re:640 emails.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like 2MB should be enough for all your email ;)

      Or wasn't that the thinking behind hotmail?

    2. Re:640 emails.... by Pugflop · · Score: 2, Funny

      No no no, 640k! So 640 * 1024 = 655360 That's more like it :).

  40. Another incomplete article by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Like most "news" today, the article says Bill Gates is probably the most spammed person in the world - but gives no frame of reference.

    For example, how much spam does the Whitehouse get?

    Do they cite the number of spams the average person gets? There is nothing other than the obvious in that article.

    The article might have well said it is probably cold in Antartica too.

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    1. Re:Another incomplete article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The White House doesn't get spam. Dubya just has lots of friends in Nigeria and can't figure out why everyone thinks he has a small penis.

    2. Re:Another incomplete article by Jack+Pirate · · Score: 1

      The article might have well said it is probably cold in Antartica too.

      Don't forget to tell the Chinese.

    3. Re:Another incomplete article by archen · · Score: 1

      Most computer users are probably aware of the fact that they use windows, and are also probably familiar with Bill Gates' association with windows - so naturally I'd think he'd be a good target for people signing up bogus addresses and such. I doubt anyone else would be collectivly as high on the list as "The richest guy in the world who is responsible for all those windows errors you get".

      While the whitehouse probably gets tons now, keep in mind that a president is limited to how long he is in office and has that address. Hell I've been signing billg up for stuff since 96.

    4. Re:Another incomplete article by kosmicki · · Score: 1

      You mean president@whitehouse.gov? They all use the same one. No GBush@whitehouse.gov or WClinton@whitehouse.gov. They all used the same one.

      So I imagine they still get increasing amounts of spam.

    5. Re:Another incomplete article by hendridm · · Score: 1
      For example, how much spam does the Whitehouse get?

      Well, they did say person, not organization or account, as I'm sure uce@ftc.gov has to be high on the list, and possibly the guy who owns fuck@off.com...

    6. Re:Another incomplete article by Sein · · Score: 1

      Actually, the spammers I see selling their lists explicity state that they come prefiltered to remove .gov adresses - and most of them can also optionally filter out .edu adresses except I don't see a whole lot of evidence for them actually doing that on my old accounts.

      So the presiden't email is probably safe - the spammers tend to have that address on their exclusion lists.

  41. Huge! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow! He could have the world's largest penis!

  42. Finally - proof of the existence of God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's tormenting Satan's earthly representative!

  43. In related news by Jrod5000+at+RPI · · Score: 0, Funny

    In related news, Mr. Gates was reportedly heard to have exclaimed, "Four million emails ought to be enough for anybody!"
    Although this quote has not yet been confirmed, the next generation Microsoft operating system, code-named Longhorn, is expected to require a boot disk to access any email after 4,096,000.
    Stay tuned for more breaking news.

  44. Gates: use Mozilla Thunderbird's Junk Mail feature by otisg · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somebody should tell him to install Thunderbird.

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    Simpy
  45. So THAT'S how Bill made his billions.. by d_jedi · · Score: 1

    He must get quite a few offers from nice businessmen in Nigeria who need help getting their money out of the country.

    Bill helps them out..
    Profit!
    Repeat millions of times over.. and ca-ching!

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  46. Spam filter by execom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think it's more some advertising news for Bill Gates than anything else. I mean, The world richest man can at least afford one of thoses babies which can handles 25 millions mail/days

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  47. Don't tell by Todd+Fisher · · Score: 1

    billg@microsoft.com is not his "real" email address. You think he would be that stupid to use something so obvious. If you really want to contact him it's moneyg69@aol.com

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  48. sounds good to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sounds good to me, maybe he can learn from that.

  49. Unfiltered by Flamesplash · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's rumoured that if you email billg from inside MS it goes directly to him, the idea being if you're stupid enough to send him a stupid email directly then maybe you should be fired for wasting his time.

    That said, after going to an intern dinner at his house I wrote him afterwards asking a question I was sure no one else care about if I acked it at the dinner, I got a relatively quick if not short response.

    Another intern friend of mine emailed him asking if he wanted to go to lunch sometime and never got a response.

    I've also had some other funny run ins with Bill Gates while interning at MS that I wrote up a while ago in my journal

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    1. Re:Unfiltered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I used to work for Oracle. I once sent Larry a rather critical email. I didn;t get sacked or a reply, either, so I don't know if he got it.

      Oracle internal email system used to be so crap that it got confused if people had the same first name and sent them each others email. I shared the same first name with the VP of Consulting for EMEA (I was working in Hamburg at the time). I once received an email from Big Man's secretary to him asking if he wanted to confirm his meeting with some IBM execs. I replied to her saying that she should tell IBM to Bugger Off and to get on the phone to the head of consulting in Hamburg and to give that Phil guy a large pay rise.

      A couple of days later my boss called me into his office and told me "Please don't do that again"

    2. Re:Unfiltered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liked your journal entry! Great anecdotes.

    3. Re:Unfiltered by NardofDoom · · Score: 1
      So what you're saying is that we have to hack into MSFT to email Bill.

      Seems easy enough...

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    4. Re:Unfiltered by Flamesplash · · Score: 1

      hehe.

      All kidding aside, MS is probably the best user of their own software, which probably leads to some of the problems. I love using Outlook the times I was at MS, I don't like it as much using it on my own in a non exchange environment. So MS actually has really good security especially on their firewalls and remote access, maybe if they didn't individual computer security would be better....

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    5. Re:Unfiltered by koi_fish · · Score: 0

      My favorite was always the e-mails sent out automatically telling you that service was down (Clarify, SQL, E-mail {especially ironic}). The best part was when they'd come back up another e-mail was sent out. This of course caused everyone to try and login at the same time causing it to go down again. I noticed this behavior pretty quickly upon which another co-worker said "Shhhh - You're not supposed to know that yet..."

    6. Re:Unfiltered by Flamesplash · · Score: 1

      They seem to have things distributed enough that they aren't problems anymore. They have a large number of exchange servers so it's just a matter of if yours went down, probably a necessary consiquence of what you described. Now the real problem is if you get a dogfood server, cause then your going to be interupted a lot more.

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  50. He should consider subscribing to hotmail by herting · · Score: 0

    For a mere $19.99/year Bill can avoid all of this spam using MSN's super bad ass spam filtration device. Read the EULA though

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  51. Unfiltered by Flamesplash · · Score: 1

    It is rumoured that if you email billg from inside MS it goes directly to him, the idea being if you're stupid enough to send him a stupid email then maybe you deserve to be fired for wasting his time.

    That said after an intern dinner at his place I wrote him an email asking about his house, a question I was sure no one else at the dinner would really care about. Not too long later I got a short though informative response from Bill. It was in the first person and since it concerned his house I was pretty sure it was from him directly.

    An intern friend wrote him and asked him to go to lunch but never got a response, not sure if he got rehired.

    A while ago I wrote about some other funny run ins with Bill in my journal

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  52. "The World's Most-Spammed Man" by Dystopian+Rebel · · Score: 1

    Neal Stephenson, here is the title of your next book!

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  53. TMDA by js290 · · Score: 1

    Sounds like he needs to start using tmda or some challenge response system. Seems like that would be cheaper than having a whole team filter your email, unless that team is outsourced.

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  54. What about president@whitehouse.gov? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised that president@whitehouse.gov isn't on the list. It would be interesting to see a top ten list of the worlds most spammed email addresses.

  55. Letter from Bill Gates to the U.S. Senate by SolidCore · · Score: 1

    Here is a letter he wrote to the Senate regarding spam. What a choad.

  56. Good. by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny

    I hope his pee cee gets lots of viruses too. :-)

    1. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if his spam filters need more then 128k memory to handle all those emails.

  57. Hah by vurg · · Score: 1

    Funny thing is, most of these e-mails are for solutions on how to get rich quick or get out of debt. I wonder what his thoughts are about that.

  58. Let's Make it 5 million! by ReeprFlame · · Score: 1

    Who said the slashdot effect is only for HTTP servers?

  59. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates receives up to four million emails a day, and is probably the most spammed person in the world

    He must have a huge penis then..

  60. Gates envy by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    "Ballmer said he was "probably also amongst the most spammed people in the world"'

    He can't let BillG have one over on him can he?

    It's kind of sad, while Bill Gates strives to be as cool as Steve Jobs, Ballmer wants to be cool like Gates. Dude, we've seen the video, you ain't as cool as Bill Gates.

  61. It's so easy to.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's so easy to write off hate-mail as spam. I do it all the time:-)

  62. So unfair by Bloke+in+a+box · · Score: 1

    That man has far far too much money.

  63. Let me be the first to say by hairykrishna · · Score: 1

    Ah, poor Bill, my heart bleeds.

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  64. Outsource by se2schul · · Score: 1

    To improve my spam filtering, I'm going to take a lesson from Bill and hire a small department in India to filter my emails.

  65. Condolences Card by mysticgoat · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is so sad.

    I thought I'd send Mr William Gates a brief cheer-up note:

    Dear Bill,
    I just heard that you are the most spammed person in the world and I thought I'd send you a cheering-up note. Since that must really suck.

    I mean I know he's rich and everything, but even rich guys must get the blues sometimes over things like spam. I'm sure he'd appreciate it if a few of us sent him our condolences.

    Does anybody know his address?

    1. Re:Condolences Card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/default.asp

      ugly.fucker@microsoft.com
      and
      god@microsoft.co m

      are known to work

  66. Back in 1994... by dapyx · · Score: 4, Informative
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  67. I have a mental image by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    of Billy G sitting in front of his computer with his tongue hanging out of his mouth, surfing porn and obviously signing up for every porn website he finds. I mean why else would he be getting hundreds of thousands of emails an hour?

  68. Spam Javelin by Seoulstriker · · Score: 1

    Damn, I was hoping it would say that he's gotten the most "spam javellined" man on earth award. He deserves it. ;-)

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  69. It's not billg@microsoft.com by robnauta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    See this article, billg@microsoft.com did exist and in 1993 you could email him and get a reply, but even back then it wasn't Bill Gates.

    1. Re:It's not billg@microsoft.com by mgcarley · · Score: 1

      He probably got sick of the amount of email coming through his @microsoft.com address, so he probably got something like billgates@hotmail.com - that way, the mailbox would never receive more than a couple thousand messages before filling up. Assuming there were no images, of course.

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  70. Computers make work, er, more efficient! by Jump · · Score: 1

    Cool, so Bill Gates is kind of ironic proof how much more efficient electronic business communication is. He just doesn't know how bad the spam problem is.
    This reminds me of Erich Honecker, who didn't know anything about what the real situation of his country was. He had a full departement working on keeping the illusion of a prosper and healthy communist system alive. He believed it until the very end.

  71. Steve Ballmer's Email Hoax by xetaprag · · Score: 1

    Presumably is Ballmer is giving out his email address at speaking events, he's doing so to encourage feedback. But if only 10 emails are actually read... is his request for feedback a hoax?

    1. Re:Steve Ballmer's Email Hoax by Bloke+in+a+box · · Score: 1

      Possibly but then again what is the percentage of useful feedback received for anything?

      Got to be a lot smaller than 1% for any project.

    2. Re:Steve Ballmer's Email Hoax by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      It just means that the actual feedback is processed and recorded by underlings; much like staffers intercept the mail going to a congresscritter.

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  72. Bill Gates by maxpuppy · · Score: 0

    Microsoft maybe evil but Bill Gates is not. He has done much to elevate the state of computer technology, single handedly. He has not taken his personal politics to his company, whatever that maybe.

  73. The rest of the story ... by Vinnie_333 · · Score: 1

    ...and Mr Gates gets so much SPAM ... because he signs up to more internet pr0n sites than any other man in America!

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  74. In any case... by BrokenHalo · · Score: 0, Troll

    Since Mr William Gates is commonly known to be the custodian of an exceptionally small penis, perhaps some of us might care to help him out, since he has so many dogsbodies-in-waiting to ensure that sincere offers come to his attention...

  75. Most Spammed? by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 1

    Heh, has he been on hotmail recently? You get spam reminding you to read your spam.

  76. Taco...the reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps the reason he won't do an interview is because of Slashdot's juvenile vitriolic hate toward him and Microsoft? Anyone remember "Microsoft Violates Human Rights In China" as well as all the "New Microsoft Hole" articles about user-run executable attachments?

    He won't do it because he knows he won't get a fair shake here no matter what.

  77. Historic email by SamMichaels · · Score: 1

    I think what he said may have been somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I'm sure billg is a valid addy, but it's more for historic purposes. One would assume that Gates is intelligent enough to have more than 1 email address...and perhaps not tell anyone except those from whom he wants to receive mail?

  78. Ballmer uses Open Source too by TheVidiot · · Score: 1


    "I receive many pieces of spam (but) only about 10 of them actually make it into my inbox because of the spam technologies that our IT department implements."

    Nice to see Steve uses Spambayes, just like me!

  79. The two most spammed email address are: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    #1 a@b.com

    #2 "asdfafdsf@asdfdafhaasad.com"

  80. Where's my rolleyes? :) by Pope · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So why doesn't he just change his real email address to bill.gates@microsoft.com or something that's not publicly published yet, and have the servers bounce the billg one? Sounds like he's not much of a practical solutions kind of guy.

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  81. re: billg@microsoft.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I heard it was billg@microsoft.com.

    Are you sure it's billg@microsoft.com ? Because to me, billg@microsoft.com doesn't sound right. Perhaps it's bill.gates@microsoft.com or even billgates@microsoft.com , who knows. Anyway, I'm gonna say that billg@microsoft.com is a good possibility, and say billg@microsoft.com once again just for the fun of it.

    All I need now is a good mod so the spam engines will get my post about billg@microsoft.com

  82. Secret of Gates' Wealth by mordors9 · · Score: 1

    Well now I know why those Nigerians never send me the money they email me about, Gates is ending up with all of it.

  83. Anti-Trust by Shadow_139 · · Score: 0

    I wonder what spam folder all the Anti-Trust Lawsuits go under? --- How well does he trust him anti-spam team? --- "OOOOH, SORREEEE!! I only created THE UNIVERSE!!! You're right, I should be out running LAPS." -God

  84. You kind of have to wonder . . . by josquin9 · · Score: 1

    how many of those e-mail are truly spam (i.e. - blanket unsolicited e-mails) versus how many are "solicited" on Mr. Gates' behalf by others trying to avoid user identification (or just trying to make his life less convenient.) I wouldn't really qualify the latter as spam.

  85. Sure, make me feel bad for him... by pla · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aww man... Now I almost feel bad for setting the "anonymous FTP password" on every browser I touch to "bgates@microsoft.com".

    Probably not his real email address, but still, he apparently doesn't need any more help.

  86. Or most likely, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Microsoft has an entire department that spends almost all of it's time to spam. The hyperbole on the journalists part was stating that this department works soley on Bill Gates email, when in reality the department that they were refering to was either an IT department that ran the mail servers for the company, or a development department that spent most of their time working on advanced spam filtering techniques.

  87. Bill Gs outlook rule by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 2, Funny

    if subject = {penis/breast/viagra/vioxx/discount } forward to linus (at) transmeta.com

    1. Re:Bill Gs outlook rule by borgheron · · Score: 1

      That's okay. Linus isn't at transmeta anymore. :)

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    2. Re:Bill Gs outlook rule by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      If I had MOD points I would use them for you. +1 funny for bitch slapping parent post!

  88. Your sig (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    If you're going to be picky about language, I feel obliged to point out that "leverage" is a noun, not a verb. "Leverage" is the action of a lever. It's a naming word, not a doing word. Compare with "use" and "usage". To avoid mistakes, every time you are tempted to use the word "leverage" (sales presentations, TPS reports, pillow talk etc), substitute the word "use" instead. It should become obvious which are the cases when "leverage" is the correct choice.

    Examples : "an excellent opportunity to use some of that power". Conversely : "this tire iron gives me great leverage".

    In those cases where you think "use" is too feeble, try "harness", "employ", "embrace" et al

    People who use "leverage" when they mean "use" just sound like those sales droids who only speak in buzz-words.

    1. Re:Your sig (OT) by UserGoogol · · Score: 2, Funny

      Verbing weirds language.

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    2. Re:Your sig (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do people insist on freezing language in place, as if at some random point in the past it was "correct?"

      "Leverage," as a verb, means to reap greater benefit from work using the same or less effort. Is there another English word that means that?

      If you want to get upset about buzzwords, complain about something like "Let's dialog about that." ((Horrified Shiver))

      /pedantic

    3. Re:Your sig (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not about freezing language, it's about not adopting attempted changes that are ugly and nonsensical. The adoption of leverage as a verb has come about from sales-droids who thinks it makes them sound energised and synergistic. We need to stand up and tell them that they just sound like twats.

      I totally agree with you about dialog.

  89. I wonder how they got his address? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe billg@microsoft.com they used billg@microsoft.com standard web harvesters billg@microsoft.com to find his address billg@microsoft.com to add to their database billg@microsoft.com.

    P.S. billg@microsoft.com.

  90. Enlarge your penis with Gillette Venus by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ignore all the expensive BS penis enlargement products that UCEs try to sell you. All you need is a Gillette Venus for Women razor, which is similar to the Mach 3 you may already use on your face but tweaked for shaving larger areas. Just take the razor and shave the part of the pubic hair from the base of the penis straight up to the navel. More exposed skin in a straight line with the penis creates an illusion of more penis.

    1. Re:Enlarge your penis with Gillette Venus by nadadogg · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good plan, but whatever you do, do NOT use Nair. It began as a semi-pleasant tingle, then it felt like the fires of hell combined with the ice of the south pole, all fighting for delivering the maximum amount of pain to my scrotum.

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    2. Re:Enlarge your penis with Gillette Venus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try "Facial Nair", which is milder and "intended" for your face, and not as harsh.

      Basically, no pain. After it's on for awhile though, and then you go to remove the hair, you're pulling it out, it doesn't just fall out.

      The feel of pulling your hair out like that is pretty gross.

    3. Re:Enlarge your penis with Gillette Venus by niittyniemi · · Score: 1

      > All you need is a Gillette Venus for Women razor, which is similar to
      > the Mach 3 you may already use on your face but tweaked for shaving
      > larger areas. Just take the razor and shave the part of the pubic hair
      > from the base of the penis straight up to the navel. More exposed skin
      > in a straight line with the penis creates an illusion of more penis.

      It's not often I complain about the moderators but shouldn't this be +5 Informative? Are the mods all women or something? or on crack?

      Anyway, damn them all to hell! I'm off down to my supermarket tomorrow to clean them out of Gillette Venus for Women. Expect me back under a new /.username....possibly "Errol Flynn".

      Have Gillette created the best product of all time?

      The time & money it will save me from replying to all those spam mails...

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    4. Re:Enlarge your penis with Gillette Venus by vettemph · · Score: 1
      The feel of pulling your hair out like that is pretty gross.

      The thought of you pulling the hair off yer nut sack is pretty gross. :)

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  91. He deserves it by jakel2k · · Score: 1

    Especially with things like this, and this.

    Sorry but IMHO the guy deserves it...(Or it might be my reaction to the news...)

  92. SPAM? Or hate mail. What about Outllook viruses? by scorp1us · · Score: 1

    I'b be interested to now if they use Outlook. I know a significant portion of those will be the latest viruses. Another huge portion is hate mail.

    With BillG getting so much, why haven't they built it into outlook. Why are they dicking us sroud with their attemp at Sender/Caller ID.

    It seems that technology is a joke to them. They really could be doing better.

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  93. I only get 40,000 SPAMs per day... by DamonHD · · Score: 1
    And I thought I had it bad, with my email address(es) on USENET and then the Web for maybe 12 years on many thousands of pages/postings! (I spent weeks writing an SMTP reverse proxy to filter the sh*t, but it is about 99.99% accurate.)

    Mind you, Bill did once reply personally (and *fast*) to a communication I sent him, but so long ago that there was no email as we know it: I sent him a telex!

    Rgds

    Damon

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  94. I wonder if it's really SPAM he gets... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    and not millions of notes saying "I'm going to kill you", or "you took away my job you "Q/=()$%" or simply "screw you".

    By the way, what's his e-mail, anyway? *evil grin* I wonder if posting his e-mail on slashdot would be a bad idea at all... MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    *sighs* Oh well, it was funny while it lasted. *combs himself*

    1. Re:I wonder if it's really SPAM he gets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bill.gates@microsoft.com

      Fuck me, some /.ers stupid.

  95. Or ... This is NOT a joke! by gosand · · Score: 3, Funny
    I wonder if he gets spam about discounted copies of XP?

    I wonder if he gets any of those "Bill Gates will send you money" chain letters.

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    1. Re:Or ... This is NOT a joke! by JuggleGeek · · Score: 1
      I wonder if he gets any of those "Bill Gates will send you money" chain letters.

      I wonder if he forwards them, and if so, to who?

  96. The exchange server by outriding9800 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I cant even believe that an exchange server can handle 4 million emails in a day. that box must be on fire all the time.

  97. Someone send him a Gmail invite! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Someone send him a Gmail invite!

  98. Both 'askbill' and 'billg' by pne · · Score: 1

    I've heard both of those addresses. I think I read about them in a book by him, and that the 'askbill' one was for employees who can just drop him a line and ask him a question or tell him about their project or something, and the 'billg' one was the generic address.

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  99. Department, not software... by dark-br · · Score: 1


    You get it wrong, he does have a department to filter his spam, that's a building full of ppl doing it by hand :)

  100. Aha, what you always thought must be true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all, thousands of spammers can't be wrong. Bill Gates must have the world's smallest dick. It explains so much really.

  101. Use mailinator.com for crap emails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go to mailinator.com, grab an autogenerated address, and use that. Easier than spamgourmet, and no signup needed - but also no privacy.

  102. Let Me Be The First To Say: by thedbp · · Score: 0, Troll

    GOOD! And I'll also bet $10 that he lets anything that promises to make his penis larger get through as well.

  103. Quote from Ballmer by cmacb · · Score: 1

    Spinmiester Ballmer says:

    "Literally, there's a whole department, almost, that takes care of it."

    Well, is it "literally" or not? Is it a "whole department" or part of one? Did you just make this up on the spot and then have second thoughts about it in mid-sentence? Does Microsoft literally give a rat's ass about their customers, sort of, almost?

  104. Definition of a stupid spammer: by chiph · · Score: 1

    ...Sending spam to an address that has 24-hour access to nuclear weapons.

    Chip H.

  105. it's called.... by GillBates0 · · Score: 1

    sarcasm

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  106. Not important by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This article assumes that Bill Gates is someone important in the email world. Is he? I don't think so. He didn't invent email. His company didn't invent email. In fact, Microsoft's level of innovation in the email space is exactly zero. So why do we care how much spam he gets? Yes, he's one of the world's most hated people, and his email address is widely known. So what?

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  107. Tiem for a change by slashfun · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Uhh, I think I would have changed me email address a long, long time ago.

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  108. Bill's Response. by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Funny
    /dev/null? What is this /dev/null/ you're talking about?

    Signed,
    Bill Gates

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  109. it's TARGETED advertising by hairyfarter · · Score: 1

    what with his 'micro soft' problem.

  110. Just Think of the Benefits!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow! The world's most spammed man! He must have the hugest penis, no credit problems whatsoever, and an endless supply of discount software!

  111. This is BREAKING NEWS these days ? by stock · · Score: 1
    This is also reported as BREAKING NEWS at TheSun

    TheSun is what i call a newspaper for Ken and Barby, reflecting the depth of the souls reading it. Some say TheSun is more for smarter ppl these days. I guess they might have a point here as in these times its wise to be rather superficial.

    Robert

    1. Re:This is BREAKING NEWS these days ? by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      TheSun is what i call a newspaper for Ken and Barby, reflecting the depth of the souls reading it. Some say TheSun is more for smarter ppl these days. I guess they might have a point here as in these times its wise to be rather superficial.
      Your award-winning spelling and grammar are evidence enough that you belong in the Sun's reader pool. And, hopefully, your baseless "I'm smarter than you" attitude will keep you out of the gene pool.
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    2. Re:This is BREAKING NEWS these days ? by stock · · Score: 1
      Your award-winning spelling and grammar are evidence enough that you belong in the Sun's reader pool. And, hopefully, your baseless "I'm smarter than you" attitude will keep you out of the gene pool.

      Don't mistake me for being smarter as you. I guess i'm a average B- to speak in USA grades terminology. I however suggest you have a look at this book :

      Barnes and Noble #1 Bestseller in its History of Education category.: "The Deliberate Dumbing down of America"

      Robert

    3. Re:This is BREAKING NEWS these days ? by WebMasterJoe · · Score: 1
      Don't mistake me for being smarter as you.
      Duly noted.
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  112. I wonder by debian4life · · Score: 1

    How many of those messages come from either @msn.com or @hotmail.com.

    That would be poetic justice.

  113. Waitaminute...how did YOU know about the Nigerian? by The_REAL_DZA · · Score: 1

    I was assured our communication was being carried out "in the most strict possible" and I was "exclusive partner" -- I smell a rat.

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  114. Geeky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Drop the 10 zeros
    2) 4*3=12
    3) Put the 10 zeros back: 120,000,000,000
    4) Move the decimal point one place left: 12,000,000,000

    Done. Mental clculation time .025 seconds.

    You must be from a red state - if it's too abstract, try thinking it as numbers of beer bottles or daid skunks.

    1. Re:Geeky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I figured you were from a red state, since you're such a jerk about proving a point.

    2. Re:Geeky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Nah, I'm from a democratic country.

    3. Re:Geeky? by sparkz · · Score: 1
      Could you tell me what, exactly, is a daid skunk?

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  115. what about his training.dat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I definitely want that training.dat. Anyone knows if it has leaked?

  116. Logic on /. ?? Nah..... by mrhartwig · · Score: 1

    Well, it's just been conclusively demonstrated that a lot more people in the US admire Bush than not.

    BZZZT. Thanks for playing, but next time bring your thinking cap with you.

    Maybe: "...more people who voted in the US...."

    Or: "...admire Bush than the other alternatives presented in the election."

    How you get from "voted for" to "admire" is beyond me, too. But that's a different topic. Also, I won't even think about getting into the tinfoil hat possibility of "...more voting machine programmers admire...." :-)

  117. More than president@whitehouse.gov? by davidwr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Somehow I don't think a cabinet-level DEPARTMENT is handling the White House email. Can you imagine the Senate-confirmation hearings for that job LOL?

    "Today President Bush nominated Sanford Wallace as Secretary of the Inbox. He faces a rough road in the Senate, given his past history. Mr. Wallace and the President both agree that his previous career makes him uniquely suited for the job."

    Seriously, I bet the Prez gets a lot of spam too. I wonder how many of the V1ag-ra ads are addressed to "President Bill Clinton?"

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  118. Use of real accounts for spam by westendgirl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I used to work in the marketing department of a CRM company. Occasionally, I'd do a search to see what sorts of fake addresses were in the database. Billg@microsoft.com was the most common address. However, BartSimpson@fox.com and president@whitehouse.gov were probably in second and third place. I tried to remove those addresses from the database, but only special people had such authorization and the company saw no value in purging bogus addresses unless the owner of the bogus address made the request. They did not seem to understand that having 20% junk in their database added to the cost of direct email campaigns. Oh well. I don't work for *them* anymore.

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  119. That already happened by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    More specifically, spammers infecting new zombie PCs included an anti-SCO DDoS in their worms' payload.

    Don't thank them too soon, though. It's impossible to hurt SCO through the internet, since they haven't needed a net presence since they transformed from a software company into a lawsuit company. It is possible to hurt Linux's PR when crap like this happens, though, by helping SCO's efforts to associate us with "evil hackers" stereotypes.

  120. Did anyone get the impression... by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else get the impression that the mystery technology the Ballamer was talking about was just a small cubicle farm of people going through things???

    Maybe we could take all those monkeys with typewriters and teach them to filter spam instead of letting them continue to think that Romeo and Juliet was their idea.

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  121. Want some Viagra cheap? by xnot · · Score: 1

    Really, Bill should listen to his spam once and a while ;-)

  122. Re:Waitaminute...how did YOU know about the Nigeri by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IT IS ALL LIES DO NOT TRUST TIS MAN HE IMPOSTER. MY FRIEND I WILL CONTACT YOU WITH THIS MATTER AGAIN SOON

    MUBUTU MUBATE


    This is random babble to circumvent that annoying lameness filter that hits me with this, "Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING." Very nice touch but its on my way and must be destroyed before I can enjoy my 15 minutes.

  123. Steve Balmer Email Address by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For extra effect you really need to make it a hyperlink and put some good keywords with it
    Steve Balmer steveb@microsoft.com

  124. Only one explanation for this ridiculous report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Steve Balmer doesn't understand the word "literally". He just threw it in thinking he sounds fashionable using it, totally oblivious to the fact that it completely defeated his poor attempt at humor.

    Any interpretation otherwise would be met with these questions:
    Why wouldn't Bill Gates change an email address?
    Why would Bill Gates be more spammed than the other top 100 richest people in the world, who together would probably contribute to 50% of all spams if this report or what Balmer said hold any water.

    Balmer was clearly trying to humorous hype their (in reality worthless) spam filtering capabilities, albeit his attempts are awkward at best (within his usual style though). Nonetheless, it clearly gave ./ers some geek fun.

  125. You think it's SPAM ... by enzoromano · · Score: 1

    ... but if you trash them you will never know. Maybe a good percentage is made by offenses, f**k offs, mailing from Linux user groups and bug reports!:-)

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  126. I think it's called "poetic justice" by mdlbear · · Score: 1

    ...considering that most of that spam is coming from 0wned Windoze boxes.

  127. 4 Million a day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now you know when windows says it has encountered an error and would like to report the information back to Microsoft, someone is getting that information.

  128. Worst Job in IT by mobhappy · · Score: 1

    I'm sure there are worse jobs in tech than manually filtering Bill and Steve's email, but I'm struggling to think of them. Russell www.mobile-weblog.com

  129. Silly fool.... by thegnu · · Score: 1

    ...Microsoft uses g5s

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  130. definition of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    someone should explain to ballmer that complaints and outlook viruses are not spam

    1. Re:definition of... by narcc · · Score: 1

      lol, as if Bill isn't smart enough to avoid outlook! He probably uses pine.

  131. Thunderbird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who wants to bet he is using thunderbird. I never get any SPAM now that i have it.

    http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/

  132. Christ, this is ridiculous by TimboJones · · Score: 1

    The department responsible for filtering spam applies their efforts not just to Billy's inbox, but to the inboxes of employees throughout the company. That's 10s of thousands of developers and other staff. I'd say it justifies the existence of a department.

    I'm sure there's crossover between the Exchange group and ITG on this matter.

  133. Send as much spam as you can here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an inseresting project, I'd like to know how many messages it takes to fill Gmail's inbox with spam, as well as the spam filtering. Sign up how.much.spam.is.a.gig@gmail.com to all the places that send spam and see how long it takes to fill it up!

  134. He's the guy you know by MavEtJu · · Score: 1

    We have a new Zaphod Beeblebrox[sp]:

    "Bill Gates (is number one) because he is Bill Gates."

    He's the guy you know!

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  135. 1, 2, 3, 4, it makes perfect sense. by twitter · · Score: 0, Troll
    1. M$ Software is responsible for more than 80% of the world's spam
    2. Microsoft is a big user of M$ junk.
    3. Email from within the company goes unfiltered to Bill Gate's inbox.
    4. Mr. Gates is the most spammed man in the world. Sometimes, there is justice.

    Is there anyway Mr. Gates could receive fewer than 46 spams per second? No, it makes perfect sense. At any time, one or two compromised desktops would do it.

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  136. There was less spam in the world. by twitter · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Before people hooked up M$ broken PCs that spam everyone, there must have been much less spam. It is good to know that the man responsible for 80% of the world's spam is also unable to use email for real communications.

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  137. If only Gates had a nickel for every spam... by twistedcubic · · Score: 1

    he'd be a billionaire!

  138. This is Microsoft we're talking about by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder if they are archiving it all someplace.

    No

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  139. Spam Filter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its good to know that one of the individuals that helps encourage spam via open mail relays is getting hit the most. I guess Bill G will never
    learn that secure by default is not just a novelty concept.

    On a side note: Why doesn't Bill use the spam filter that is built in to Outlook? I guess some potentials would be:

    1) Because its crap, that is why he has an entire department manually sorting his emails, he can't afford to loose anything important, however; the rest of the world can loose their junk.

    2) He has trouble finding qualified people to configure his spam filter.

    3) Because he likes to waste money.

    4) He likes to encourge the use of Exchange servers by setting an example.

    5) Because he wants to make sure he gets all his pr0n sent directly to his home account. (see item two).

    6) Doing his part to help build the next generation internet because of all the congesting that he alone creates. Now imagine if the world started using MS products; imagine the congestion that.... wait.... sorry about the last point...

  140. Readable version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  141. Doesn't he know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He could cut that by 75% just by turning off auto preview.

  142. HYPE and MARKETING by Nadsat · · Score: 1

    This is hype. Gates is advertising that he has a personal interest in defeating Spam. It is a contradiction to say that Microsoft will end all Spam in 2 years... while in the same sentence arguing that legislating to fine spammers is the best approach. If Gates really did have a way to end spam in 2 years, there would be no reason for wanting to fine spammers, since they would be as ineffectual. Capisce?

  143. think about it for a moment... by howhardcanitbetocrea · · Score: 1

    How many people really think Bill uses (or even monitors) billgates@microsoft.com or any of the variants e.g. bgates, bill.gates etc. My guess is that would have several email addresses that are given to different people based on how "important" they are. Steve Balmer is probably the only one who knows about billgates@hotmail.com ... DOH!

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  144. Man!!! by gijoel · · Score: 1

    His penis must be absolutely enormous by now

  145. Thanks. That's why I read slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I hadn't thought about that, but then again, I don't think like a spammer, mostly since I am not being paid to, at the moment ;-)

    But that makes total sense - not to waste your time spaming .gov and .edu domains.

  146. why the hell by Kanasta · · Score: 1

    does billyG even want an email address? What:s the secretary for?

  147. Duh by wurp · · Score: 1

    He gets 4 million emails a day. I'm sure 3.9 million of them are spam. However, 100,000 of them are almost certainly emails that are unique, and not easily filterable. Why in the hell wouldn't it require basically a whole department (by which I mean > 30 people, probably more like 100) to filter out the 100 emails that deserve a decision maker's opinion, and the 20 that require BillG himself to look at them?

    1. Re:Duh by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1
      He gets 4 million emails a day. I'm sure 3.9 million of them are spam. However, 100,000 of them are almost certainly emails that are unique, and not easily filterable. Why in the hell wouldn't it require basically a whole department (by which I mean > 30 people, probably more like 100) to filter out the 100 emails that deserve a decision maker's opinion, and the 20 that require BillG himself to look at them?

      Clearly there will be filters, but my guess is that less than a few percent make it through the electronic filters, and most of those are from within the M$ net IP block. The rest, perhaps a few hundred a day, can be processed by 2 or 3 secretaries.

      If you want to call that a department, fine. I'm done with this conversation.

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  148. Its CLOSED source by rkuris · · Score: 1

    All we have is the machine code. We can read that, but there aren't any comments.

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  149. We're all made out of fractal algorithms. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not!

  150. A Justification for Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dammit if Bill Gates is getting 4megaspam per day it finally gives a justification for spam