They didn't want to hire me for a summer internship, so guess where I'm working now? and in the sig: who wants a body massage?
Let me guess: a spa? A massage parlor??
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The point everyone's missing is: what was Gates doing looking at Google's help-wanted page? Things not going so well at Microsoft, Bill? Or is sharing a cubicle with Ballmer starting to bother you?
But seriously: why do you think these concerns are dismissed so lightly? I'd be happy to hear decent rebuttals and answers.
For example: Google does cache pages currently, I know; but when it shows you the cached version, it tells you in plain words that what you are seeing is a cache, grabbed on X/Y/Z, etc. If they're acting as a proxy, they will not be doing that.
And as far as child porn goes: assume, for the sake of the argument, that the porn site deliberately feeds the Google cache-grabber child porn; and to others it feeds normal porn (whatever that may be). Now if Joe User gets child porn via Google, who's responsible?
This scenario isn't as far-fetched as one might think. For example: the people at FuckedCompany.com have models modelling their t-shirts. If you link to the model images from some other page, you get bestiality porn. Similarly, the FC chaps could, for example, feed you bestiality porn via this Google proxy (if they thought it was illegal linking).
Let's assume that Joe Schmoe installs the "web accelerator". Next he downloads child porn. Who's responsible for this? Can he sue Google, claiming they "put it there" ?
Msr. Francois in France browses a Nazi site and Google happily provides the content to him via the handy web accelerator. Can the French go after Google now? (as if they're not already).
Chinese government demands that Google strip out offensive content and replace any references to Li Hongzhi with "<insert insult here>". Will Google comply? Has such a demand been made before ?
Plus, what about copyrights and such? Will Google be held liable for pushing out outdated pages? How will the servers (from where Google is grabbing pages) get their statistics? And since Google will be sort-of screen-scraping, why does Google object to it themselves?
customer-level ingres filtering -- e.g. if the "other end" of the cable modem gets a packet whose src address is not that of the cable modem, drop it on the floor, it's forged.
It is called "egress filtering" (more info (PDF)). It is asinine that all USPs aren't doing this. Spoofed addresses is one major reason why DDoS attacks are so hard to counter.
True. But his argument is more along the lines of "Physician, heal thyself".
If you walk into a police station with outstanding warrants against you, complaining of a mugging, the cops are going to catch you first before they go after the mugger.
How many times have we read about pot growers who call in cops to complain of a burglary? And guess what? The cops catch them first.
If the RIAA is complaining of a crime, they must make sure that they themselves are innocent of such.
I keep seeing the same sort of responses to Roland's stories, and have finally begun to wonder: why doesn't Slashdot stop posting his stories? Will someone at Slashdot address the readers' concerns? It is about time that an official answer came from Slashdot central about their relationship with Roland. I find it hard to believe that each and every story of his gets accepted, while the rest of us have a much less success rate.
Or/. should make it a point not to accept stories where the main link has registration required (yes, I know about BugMeNot). It is not like these stories are earth-shattering expose's ; this is just a cute little piece meant for easy reading. SJMN should be glad for all the traffic they get from the/. hordes. Someone will surely post the text of the article, and then people won't go to their site, thereby cutting down on the page views. On the other hand, if this story had been free, people would have read it on their site (i.e. more hits).
What is with these non-standard terms like "Terabytes" and "Megabytes"? Please re-state the bandwidth and the amount of data tranferred in LoCs (Libraries of Congress) and KLoCs (Kilo Libraries of Congress) so that the rest of the world can understand the magnitude of this achievement.
I view this as more than just a competition issue. Yes, FF is gaining share. Yes, people are turning away from IE in droves. But the fact is: as long as 90% of the people use IE, Microsoft of yore wouldn't have given a damn. So what gives?
I think Microsoft is worried about the way Firefox is being extended and turning into a true thin client. Just look at what Google has done with maps, GMail, etc. With AJAX (or whatever they are calling it), FireFox becomes a serious long-term threat to Microsoft. And the folks there aren't stupid. As Bill Gates said in The Simpsons, "Homer, I didn't get to be the richest man in the world writing checks" (or words to that effect). Microsoft has a bunch of nerds on the payroll too, toiling away. They see the looming threat and are responding now instead of waiting (like IBM did when it failed to recognize a similar looming threat from Redmond;-) ).
I would like to hear points/counterpoints, if any.
Look at the date: 2005/03/17 (or March 17th 2005 for the rest of you). Obviously it was released to undercut Tridge.
Tridge had 2 options after that:
a) release his version (which is also just a client) and get the "is this it? But why did Tridge do that?" comments like the parent; or
b) not release it, and let the rumors fly around.
I'm glad Tridge chose to release his version and now we can all move on. Of course, the real loser in this is McVoy (he lost his biggest mouthpiece), followed by Linus (who has to now duplicate the functionality of BK as much as he can, and while he's mucking with the tools the kernel development takes a backseat).
My understanding is that A.L.I.C.E. is an extensible framework, which can be extended via better and bigger AIML sets. The question is: where can one find some good AIML sets (other than the standard one)?
Exactly. Some news source will put AP stories online; it's not as if the stories will disappear completely. Fark can just link to the well-heeled sources which get the license from AP to make the stories available.
Microsoft did the same to Intel when it was picking a CPU for the original XBox. They floated a rumor that they'd be using AMD's Athlon inside; next thing you know, Intel was practically begging them to use Intel's CPUs and Microsoft got a great deal.
But Torvalds also makes some good points. From reading that thread I linked to, I can see that Linus has a very real, legitimate problem that only BitKeeper could solve. Read it. He saved hours or in some cases days of down time -- time that other SCM tools would have sucked up and wasted. For a man in his position, that's really serious
I understand what you're saying, but keep in mind the Opensource mantra: there are free (OSS) alternatives for everything, and they're just about as good.
What Linus implied by embracing BK was that, for some applications, proprietary is the best. Now extend this logic to the other proprietary stuff, and you see we have a problem. If McVoy was really so interested in helping out the kernel development process, he should have given a perpetual, irrevocable license to the kernel team; from what I've heard, he did not.
... as compared to a fast, action-packed game like baseball.
and in the sig:
who wants a body massage?
Let me guess: a spa? A massage parlor??
But seriously: why do you think these concerns are dismissed so lightly? I'd be happy to hear decent rebuttals and answers.
For example: Google does cache pages currently, I know; but when it shows you the cached version, it tells you in plain words that what you are seeing is a cache, grabbed on X/Y/Z, etc. If they're acting as a proxy, they will not be doing that.
And as far as child porn goes: assume, for the sake of the argument, that the porn site deliberately feeds the Google cache-grabber child porn; and to others it feeds normal porn (whatever that may be). Now if Joe User gets child porn via Google, who's responsible?
This scenario isn't as far-fetched as one might think. For example: the people at FuckedCompany.com have models modelling their t-shirts. If you link to the model images from some other page, you get bestiality porn. Similarly, the FC chaps could, for example, feed you bestiality porn via this Google proxy (if they thought it was illegal linking).
Msr. Francois in France browses a Nazi site and Google happily provides the content to him via the handy web accelerator. Can the French go after Google now? (as if they're not already).
Chinese government demands that Google strip out offensive content and replace any references to Li Hongzhi with "<insert insult here>". Will Google comply? Has such a demand been made before ?
Plus, what about copyrights and such? Will Google be held liable for pushing out outdated pages? How will the servers (from where Google is grabbing pages) get their statistics? And since Google will be sort-of screen-scraping, why does Google object to it themselves?
Just some questions that come to mind.
It is called "egress filtering" (more info (PDF)). It is asinine that all USPs aren't doing this. Spoofed addresses is one major reason why DDoS attacks are so hard to counter.
It's wireless! There are no lines, and hence, no linebreaks... ;-)
If you walk into a police station with outstanding warrants against you, complaining of a mugging, the cops are going to catch you first before they go after the mugger.
How many times have we read about pot growers who call in cops to complain of a burglary? And guess what? The cops catch them first.
If the RIAA is complaining of a crime, they must make sure that they themselves are innocent of such.
It's a Java client. Isn't Java supposed to "write once, run anywhere" ? (I'm not being a troll here; just wondering).
I keep seeing the same sort of responses to Roland's stories, and have finally begun to wonder: why doesn't Slashdot stop posting his stories? Will someone at Slashdot address the readers' concerns? It is about time that an official answer came from Slashdot central about their relationship with Roland. I find it hard to believe that each and every story of his gets accepted, while the rest of us have a much less success rate.
(I know, that is spelled Lothar, but still... :-) )
Or /. should make it a point not to accept stories where the main link has registration required (yes, I know about BugMeNot). It is not like these stories are earth-shattering expose's ; this is just a cute little piece meant for easy reading. SJMN should be glad for all the traffic they get from the /. hordes. Someone will surely post the text of the article, and then people won't go to their site, thereby cutting down on the page views. On the other hand, if this story had been free, people would have read it on their site (i.e. more hits).
There is. It's called a bookmark. Look for Google to buy out del.icio.us (or however you put the "." in there).
What is with these non-standard terms like "Terabytes" and "Megabytes"? Please re-state the bandwidth and the amount of data tranferred in LoCs (Libraries of Congress) and KLoCs (Kilo Libraries of Congress) so that the rest of the world can understand the magnitude of this achievement.
I think Microsoft is worried about the way Firefox is being extended and turning into a true thin client. Just look at what Google has done with maps, GMail, etc. With AJAX (or whatever they are calling it), FireFox becomes a serious long-term threat to Microsoft. And the folks there aren't stupid. As Bill Gates said in The Simpsons, "Homer, I didn't get to be the richest man in the world writing checks" (or words to that effect). Microsoft has a bunch of nerds on the payroll too, toiling away. They see the looming threat and are responding now instead of waiting (like IBM did when it failed to recognize a similar looming threat from Redmond ;-) ).
I would like to hear points/counterpoints, if any.
Tridge had 2 options after that:
a) release his version (which is also just a client) and get the "is this it? But why did Tridge do that?" comments like the parent; or
b) not release it, and let the rumors fly around.
I'm glad Tridge chose to release his version and now we can all move on. Of course, the real loser in this is McVoy (he lost his biggest mouthpiece), followed by Linus (who has to now duplicate the functionality of BK as much as he can, and while he's mucking with the tools the kernel development takes a backseat).
My understanding is that A.L.I.C.E. is an extensible framework, which can be extended via better and bigger AIML sets. The question is: where can one find some good AIML sets (other than the standard one)?
Exactly. Some news source will put AP stories online; it's not as if the stories will disappear completely. Fark can just link to the well-heeled sources which get the license from AP to make the stories available.
This would be an issue for Adobe if there existed a competing product.
What if Gimp added support for this raw format? Would it draw more people to Gimp? Photoshop seriously needs some competition.
Microsoft did the same to Intel when it was picking a CPU for the original XBox. They floated a rumor that they'd be using AMD's Athlon inside; next thing you know, Intel was practically begging them to use Intel's CPUs and Microsoft got a great deal.
How do you attack an adversary that relies on donkeys and handwritten notes for communication?
I understand what you're saying, but keep in mind the Opensource mantra: there are free (OSS) alternatives for everything, and they're just about as good.
What Linus implied by embracing BK was that, for some applications, proprietary is the best. Now extend this logic to the other proprietary stuff, and you see we have a problem. If McVoy was really so interested in helping out the kernel development process, he should have given a perpetual, irrevocable license to the kernel team; from what I've heard, he did not.
If you view the pictures of Atlanta's airport, you can see 4 planes taking off (in the air). ATL must be one heck of a busy airport!
Begin, the search engine wars has.