In many fields the 'rich west' will eventually be overrun by the third world.
Why ? Because they have absolutely nothing holding them back, whereas we have a substantial investment in our current infrastructure.
That makes us conservative - resistant to change - even if that change is for the better.
Look at the entrenchement of MS for example. They will continue to receive cash that could have been spend better for a long long time to come.
Meanwhile the rest of the world - the poor part that is - is absolutely free to adapt linux, not having a vested interest in 3rd party closed source they will outstrip the west in knowledge about these systems in a very few years.
After the 'furry mouse', the 'gel mousepad', the 'arm rests in front of keyboard' and so on now the LED mousepad...
Nonsense with blinking lights does very well judging by the sight of cars in the city at night (biggest consumers of blue leds), so this will probably be a hot seller:)
Funny in all the 9 years or so that I've been on the net I don't recall going to Yahoo even once... Google however, I wouldn't know how to pass a single day without it.
In practice though, once the system becomes automated it no longer is the user that sets it up but some - untrusted - application like say the next cool file sharing program. Next a bug is discovered and *bang* millions of previously firewalled machines are suddenly wide open.
Technically speaking PayPal (now Ebay) could have done this years ago, simply a button that allows you to buy a webpage. It would not be too hard to do, they already have all the other pieces in place.
Micropayments have been done for *ages*, in europe there was the VideoText system (viditel in NL, minitel in France). That's the 1200/75 era, so really way back when.
SGI was one of the most innovative UNIX vendors *ever*, SCO is one of the least innovative ones.
I should know, after using both of their products for multiple years. (hm, so let's see if I get this right, the networking package is optional ??? Ok, goodbye.)
Just when the Thames is getting back to a more or less clean state. Yes! let's all jump into boats to avoid the congestion, congest the waterways and pollute them to the point where the only thing that wants to live there are 6 legged frogs...
Suggesting this could relieve congestion is just stupid.
I'm looking in to mulitple phone lines and multi-channel ppp tunneling to Toronto (where my servers are hosted), then hit the net from there.
DSL is a couple of years away at least here (rural (very rural:) northern Ontario), I can get about 20 Kbit/sec out of a phone line so 5 or so of them should do it. This is strictly business use (ww.com, camarades.com and the wwgrapevine.com) so I'm not too concerned about the per month cost if it is not something exorbitant.
The most frustrating part of all of this is that there is a perfectly good fiber running a couple of miles from here !
If you've never read anything by Douglas Adams then may I suggest you start now ? You'll be sure to enjoy it, it's some of the finest English writing of by a man that died way too soon.
yep, we're aware of that, and working on it. Unfortunately we are only two (Keir Mierle and myself) and browser plug ins are not exactly easy to make (or debug). Keir will start working on different browser plug ins soon...
RedHats early stuff is not ready for prime time, usually that takes until the.2 release, so don't install this on anything mission critical (as in it's your living or someone will get mad at you if it fails).
How many packets does your machine send out that you have not looked at personally ? Mine does that *all* the time (I don't have the time nor the resources to check them all).
This means that if say MS is checking the contents of my machine and starts harassing me over possibly illegal software that I would have no way of knowing that the info was retrieved using spyware. it's the stupidity of the 'presentation' that gives this one away, if they were a bit more clever about it you'd never have known that it was spyware related.
The best way to avoid this kind of trouble is to go completely open source or make sure your licenses are paid up:)
in the godfather movie there is a scene where the Don tries to reason with someone. This does not work, and regrettably he has to resolve the matter in a slightly different fashion.
I think we have reasoned long enough with McBride:)
Personally as long as these wardriving robots do not come with armaments (remotely or autonomously controlled) I'm not afraid. Feel free to sniff my pop / telnet passwords (don't use either), just please *dont* shoot me:)
If you ever have the time to hunt it up try 'Delos', an older science fiction movie starring Yul Brenner. It's really a great flic with lots of suspense and some excellent footage.
It pretty much covers the 'Interactive Theme Park Doll' from every angle that you could think of (including the dolls running amok).
What will happen - and I hope I'm wrong about this, but I think I'm not - is that *ANY* accident involving robotic technology will *ALLWAYS* be taken to court simply because it is possible, and because the potential 'win' for the grieved party will be enormous.
So, we will have a near perfect robotic driver, and yet it will not be marketed simply because the first accident by a 'grieved' party will be able to claim 'it's your robot that did it', and the companies insurance company will be forced to pay through the nose, end of story for robotic drivers.
Robotic technology is going to be a sitting duck for this kind of lawsuit, since it has one little problem, there is nobody to give evidence for the robot, your word against the robots, who do we believe ? You can do everything you want to make the thing bombproof, it will not help one shred.
What needs to change is peoples attitude towards accidents, where if something goes wrong it is not immediately seen as a shot at becoming an instant millionaire.
There are other fields where this habit starts to show its effects, such as medical practice. In spite of all the waivers and so on there are less and less people willing to become doctors. They start out as the most noble people on the planet (those who spend their lives in healing others), they end up as the most cynical ones because every mistake they make opens them up to a malpractice suit. It's sickening.
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In many fields the 'rich west' will eventually be overrun by the third world.
Why ? Because they have absolutely nothing holding them back, whereas we have a substantial investment in our current infrastructure.
That makes us conservative - resistant to change - even if that change is for the better.
Look at the entrenchement of MS for example. They will continue to receive cash that could have been spend better for a long long time to come.
Meanwhile the rest of the world - the poor part that is - is absolutely free to adapt linux, not having a vested interest in 3rd party closed source they will outstrip the west in knowledge about these systems in a very few years.
Unless of course we decide to 'move first' again.
After the 'furry mouse', the 'gel mousepad', the
:)
'arm rests in front of keyboard' and so on now the LED mousepad...
Nonsense with blinking lights does very well judging by the sight of cars in the city at night (biggest consumers of blue leds), so this will probably be a hot seller
bzzzt. it's called 'pointers'
I hear he is just about ready to get the iso out...
;)
back to the drawing board I guess
Funny in all the 9 years or so that I've been
on the net I don't recall going to Yahoo even
once... Google however, I wouldn't know how to pass a single day without it.
In practice though, once the system becomes
automated it no longer is the user that sets
it up but some - untrusted - application like
say the next cool file sharing program. Next
a bug is discovered and *bang* millions of
previously firewalled machines are suddenly
wide open.
port knocking is like having a deliberate hole in
your carefully constructed secure zone.
I'm going to stay a mile away from anything that
brings on board a 'knocker'...
I'd hate to get knocked up.
Is there any kind of objective review of these two ?
I'm trying to decide on one to distribute locally.
Micropayments have been done for *ages*, in europe there was the VideoText system (viditel in NL, minitel in France). That's the 1200/75 era, so really way back when.
Are you on the grapevine yet ?
SGI was one of the most innovative UNIX vendors *ever*, SCO is one of the least innovative ones.
I should know, after using both of their products for multiple years. (hm, so let's see if I get this right, the networking package is optional ??? Ok, goodbye.)
Suggesting this could relieve congestion is just stupid.
it's generally (no pun intended) considered a good thing that marines are too disciplined to go postal. Postal workers however...
I'm looking in to mulitple phone lines and multi-channel ppp tunneling to Toronto (where my servers are hosted), then hit the net from there.
DSL is a couple of years away at least here (rural (very rural :) northern Ontario), I can get about 20 Kbit/sec out of a phone line so 5 or so of them should do it. This is strictly business use (ww.com, camarades.com and the wwgrapevine.com) so I'm not too concerned about the per month cost if it is not something exorbitant.
The most frustrating part of all of this is that there is a perfectly good fiber running a couple of miles from here !
Are you on the grapevine yet ?
If you've never read anything by Douglas Adams then may I suggest you start now ? You'll be sure to enjoy it, it's some of the finest English writing of by a man that died way too soon.
yep, we're aware of that, and working on it. Unfortunately we are only two (Keir Mierle and myself) and browser plug ins are not exactly easy to make (or debug). Keir will start working on different browser plug ins soon...
ah, you're absolutely right there, sorry about that. Even so, 'beta' should be enough warning :)
Are you on the grapevine yet ?
RedHats early stuff is not ready for prime time, usually that takes until the .2 release, so don't install this on anything mission critical (as in it's your living or someone will get mad at you if it fails).
Are you on the grapevine yet ?
How many packets does your machine send out that you have not looked at personally ? Mine does that *all* the time (I don't have the time nor the resources to check them all).
:)
This means that if say MS is checking the contents of my machine and starts harassing me over possibly illegal software that I would have no way of knowing that the info was retrieved using spyware. it's the stupidity of the 'presentation' that gives this one away, if they were a bit more clever about it you'd never have known that it was spyware related.
The best way to avoid this kind of trouble is to go completely open source or make sure your licenses are paid up
are you on the grapevine yet ?
I think we have reasoned long enough with McBride
Any mafiosi on linux ?
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An improvement would be a reduction in bombs, not an improvement in technology.
shameless plug: join the grapevine !
Shameless plug: try the world wide grapevine!
If you ever have the time to hunt it up try 'Delos', an older science fiction movie starring Yul Brenner. It's really a great flic with lots of suspense and some excellent footage.
It pretty much covers the 'Interactive Theme Park Doll' from every angle that you could think of (including the dolls running amok).
:) Ok, let's hope for the best !
I very much want this tech to happen.
cheers !
j.
What will happen - and I hope I'm wrong about this, but I think I'm not - is that *ANY* accident involving robotic technology will *ALLWAYS* be taken to court simply because it is possible, and because the potential 'win' for the grieved party will be enormous.
So, we will have a near perfect robotic driver, and yet it will not be marketed simply because the first accident by a 'grieved' party will be able to claim 'it's your robot that did it', and the companies insurance company will be forced to pay through the nose, end of story for robotic drivers.
Robotic technology is going to be a sitting duck for this kind of lawsuit, since it has one little problem, there is nobody to give evidence for the robot, your word against the robots, who do we believe ? You can do everything you want to make the thing bombproof, it will not help one shred.
What needs to change is peoples attitude towards accidents, where if something goes wrong it is not immediately seen as a shot at becoming an instant millionaire.
There are other fields where this habit starts to show its effects, such as medical practice. In spite of all the waivers and so on there are less and less people willing to become doctors. They start out as the most noble people on the planet (those who spend their lives in healing others), they end up as the most cynical ones because every mistake they make opens them up to a malpractice suit. It's sickening.