I've found AMD chips to be as reliable as Intel chips.
The main reason why so many corporates go for Intel over AMD is that they've been conned by the FUD that eminated from the 486 cum 586 days.
The fact is virtually all the corporates who say these sort of things have never used an AMD based system since the 486 cum 586 days.
Plus how many corporate IT managers & decision makers even know what they are talking about?
Most of them have never even built a system themselves.
Gez, a mate of mine worked in the drawing dept in a huge international construction company & they were about to go P4 1.7 GB route, because they just took what the Intel people said as gospel.
So I sat down with the IT blokes there & explained the various pro 'n cons.
Such as the fact that unlike generational upgrades in the past, where clock for clock things improved (for example a p5 based core like the P70 is faster than a 100mhz 486, & a p6 based core like a Pentium Pro 200 is much faster than a P5 based Pentium 180, especially on pure 32bit code), the opposite was true for the p7 cored P4, clock for clock they are abysmal compared with the even the p6 based Celeron - they honestly thought that as it was a generational upgrade that clock for clock the P4 was faster.
Also I explained that AMD based sytems are just as reliable, pending decent mainboards.
So I made up a 800mhz Celeron system (Intel discourages corporates from using the Celeron) & a 1.2GB T'bird system, for them. So they could spend 6 weeks comparing them with the P4 demo system they were given.
They realised I was right, & in the end went with 8 new Pentium !!! based systems, that matched the exact specs of my Celeron demo system, except for the CPU (to cover what they needed straight away), & purchased two 1.2GB DDR-SDRAM Athlon systems for long term evaluation (there really is extreme prejudice against AMD in the corporate sector - it's funny the IT network 'hardware' admin staff will make AMD systems for themselves & their relatives, but the management & 'software' staff seem to have almost idealogical opinions against them).
They are extremely grateful now, as they will save many thousands when they do eventually make their decision - they definitly won't go with the P4, especially now Intel's about to change socket formats again. They are now debating between Celeron, P!!!, T'bird & the new AthlonMP CPUs.
I think they'l go the P!!! route, as many enterprise suppliers make it hard for businesses to chose Celeron or AMD systems. Even so the P!!! is much better than the P4 (unless one is using optimised code, but then its only now we are even starting to see code that's P5+ optimised), & heaps cheaper too.
If its open source what's stoping someone else burning pkg CDs with all the info in the book in a txt file or 2, then flogging it at half the price the Connectix or whatever programmers are flogging their pkg CDs for, & then not giving the coders a cut at all?
I like those European countries where you don't even need a com, net, or org, etc TLD, just the country, so someone in Italy has 'fuck.it'.
Here in Oz you can pay more & have 'com', 'net', 'org', 'gov' or 'edu', etc, without the '.au' after it, or pay less & have '.au' after it (well that how it seems to work much of the time).
But there must be a TLD before.au, unlike those specific European nations.
There's some old ecentric coder too, who was the 1st to bring TLDs to Australia & ran the whole thing till the govt & corporates took over. Back in those days he registed some strange TLDs like dropbear.au, etc. The govt/corporate world don'r like these strange TLDs of his floating about, so they are trying to have them cancelled.
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Well 47 i586 RPMs for Man8.
Really they should have a 48th RPM that has the whole lot in one pkg, so if you want to download/instal the whole lot, you can just download the one file.
By UN precedent (going back to Nazi settlers in occupied Poland) they are conside war crime.
Remember they are the ones chosing to settle on ethnically cleansed land.
You know that Israeli settlements are in contravention of the Geneva Convention (A49P6), the Hague Convention (1906C), the IDHR & dozens of UN resolutions.
& the only reason Israel gets away with all this is because American politicians are so shitscared of the Jewish Lobby & American Jews voting as a block on a single issue. Consequently the US uses the threat of its veto to water down any UN resolutions against Israel to the point of uselessness.
Which is the reason that Israel hasn't been forced by a 20 year campaign of sanctions to comply with international norms, Like South Africa was.
If you knew anything about what brought the 2nd gulf war to head it was the fact that Kuwait had been stealing billions in Iraqi oil via angled pumps or something.
Iraq wanted 5 billion in compo, Kuwaited offered 3 billion, & Saddam took it as an insult.
The conflict between the Jews & the Arabs was created by Theodore Herzl when he conceived the idea of zionism just over 100 years ago.
Before then, the Islamic/Arab worlds were where thousands apon thousands of Jews sought sanctiory (& prospured, too) from the on going inquisitions & pogroms of Christian Europe (as far as field as Spain to the Ukraine).
The simple fact is, & even Israeli experts agree on this, if zionism had not been conceived about a century ago, there would be no Israeli/Arab conflict today.
While the US continues to base its foreign policies on domestic politics: - ie, because of the influence of the Zionist lobby & US politicians being shitscared of Jewish voyers voting as a block on a single issue, the US continues to support Israel (with more aid in any given year than the whole continent of South America); even though Israel's welfare is not really a relivent to the US's strategic interest; you can't really blame foreign interests if they decide to take things out on the American people.
For example, using the example of Israel. While Israel refuses to permit the return of Palestinian refugees & refuses to return confiscated properties (before 1948 the Arabs owned about 90% of the land, after the mass expulsion & expropiations of 1948 they owned only 4%), Israel is in contravention of the Geneva Convention (A49P6), the Hague Convention (1906C), the IDHR & dozens of UN resolutions. Yet because of the US's UNSC veto, any resolutions against Israel get watered down to uselessness. So when Palestinians continue to live in poverty & see their children die everyday from US firearms; can you blame 'em for wanting to send a message back to the American people.
That's enough ranting.
But its pretty obvious that the arming of Israel would make the US a target.
Well QNX 6 RTP X86 is, I don't know about the rest.
Also bootup time with QNX makes Linux look like a 90 year old grandma doped to the eye balls on stelazine & benzos to make things easy for the nursing home staff.
Except for the fact it has a login dialogue popup QNX makes BeOS bootup look slow.
Just have the Internet Aplliance built into the TVs PCB, with a trackball built into the remote & equipe them with a wireless keyboard, a USB plug (for printers, etc) & a Firewire plug (for cam-corder connectivity).
Just think, 'all Sony TVs come with free internet', the grandmas will buy them in droves.
So they'l clock like a Lockheed Blackbird, while performing like a Brewster Buffalo; which is what Intel's done with the Pentium 4's p7 core.
Personally I think AMD's approach is a lot more honest.
Traditionally when a new generation core came out, clock for clock it performed better than the previous generation core.
Hence Intel's p5 core (the 1st Pentium) Pentium 100 (100mhz) ran better or equal to a 486 running at 120 to 130mhz. The same thing occured when the p6 core design came out (the core design of the Pentium Pro, Pentium II & Pentium !!! CPUs) - the Pentium Pro 150 performed better or equal to a Pentium running at about 180mhz (especially with full 32bit OSes)
Where as Intel's p7 cored P4 performs noticebly worce, clock for clock, than Intel's previous generation p6 cored P!!!
In effect Intel's gone & performed the same dodgy trick VIA did with their Cyrix III mark II design.
When the Cyrix 3 1st came out it had Cyrix's next generation (Cayenne/Joshua) core, which had the best performing X86 integer core in the game (the 686 integer core), dual 80 bit floating point units, 2 MMX units & 2 3DNow units, 64K L1 cache & 256K L2 cache & it was designed to run on any bus from 50 to 150mhz.
& clock for clock it was a screamer - the Cyrix III (Cayenne/Joshua) PR500 (400mhz model) ran up to 60% faster than a 500mhz Celeron, on the same hardware/software platform, going by Tom's Hardware Guide (I figured I'd link them seeing this thread started with a link with them). But it just wouldn't clock much faster than that, which wasn't good enough for VIA so they replaced the Cyrix III (Joshua/Cayenne) with IDT Centaur's Winchip Samuel core & called that the Cyrix III instead. This Samuel core performed like a dog (it even had no L2 cache, though it did have a K7 like 128KB L1 cache) but it could clock up to a GB, which is what VIA wanted.
The Samuel Winchip cum Cyrix III wasn't/isn't all bad, relatively speaking it runs very cool, VIA even demonstrated it running without a fansink. So it could definitly have a place in X86 based embedded platforms.
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than a hardware emulation layer?
I remember seeing Mac classic apps running in PPC BeOS without the use of an emulator.
Ever thought this bloke could be speaking English as a 2nd or 3rd language.
If so, how do you compare?
Ever thought this bloke could be speaking English as a 2nd or 3rd language.
If so, how do you compare?
I've found AMD chips to be as reliable as Intel chips.
The main reason why so many corporates go for Intel over AMD is that they've been conned by the FUD that eminated from the 486 cum 586 days.
The fact is virtually all the corporates who say these sort of things have never used an AMD based system since the 486 cum 586 days.
Plus how many corporate IT managers & decision makers even know what they are talking about?
Most of them have never even built a system themselves.
Gez, a mate of mine worked in the drawing dept in a huge international construction company & they were about to go P4 1.7 GB route, because they just took what the Intel people said as gospel.
So I sat down with the IT blokes there & explained the various pro 'n cons.
Such as the fact that unlike generational upgrades in the past, where clock for clock things improved (for example a p5 based core like the P70 is faster than a 100mhz 486, & a p6 based core like a Pentium Pro 200 is much faster than a P5 based Pentium 180, especially on pure 32bit code), the opposite was true for the p7 cored P4, clock for clock they are abysmal compared with the even the p6 based Celeron - they honestly thought that as it was a generational upgrade that clock for clock the P4 was faster.
Also I explained that AMD based sytems are just as reliable, pending decent mainboards.
So I made up a 800mhz Celeron system (Intel discourages corporates from using the Celeron) & a 1.2GB T'bird system, for them. So they could spend 6 weeks comparing them with the P4 demo system they were given.
They realised I was right, & in the end went with 8 new Pentium !!! based systems, that matched the exact specs of my Celeron demo system, except for the CPU (to cover what they needed straight away), & purchased two 1.2GB DDR-SDRAM Athlon systems for long term evaluation (there really is extreme prejudice against AMD in the corporate sector - it's funny the IT network 'hardware' admin staff will make AMD systems for themselves & their relatives, but the management & 'software' staff seem to have almost idealogical opinions against them).
They are extremely grateful now, as they will save many thousands when they do eventually make their decision - they definitly won't go with the P4, especially now Intel's about to change socket formats again. They are now debating between Celeron, P!!!, T'bird & the new AthlonMP CPUs.
I think they'l go the P!!! route, as many enterprise suppliers make it hard for businesses to chose Celeron or AMD systems. Even so the P!!! is much better than the P4 (unless one is using optimised code, but then its only now we are even starting to see code that's P5+ optimised), & heaps cheaper too.
If its open source what's stoping someone else burning pkg CDs with all the info in the book in a txt file or 2, then flogging it at half the price the Connectix or whatever programmers are flogging their pkg CDs for, & then not giving the coders a cut at all?
seabrookpd.gov.us or seabrook.gov will do
.au, unlike those specific European nations.
lausdk12.edu.us or lausdk12.edu will do.
I like those European countries where you don't even need a com, net, or org, etc TLD, just the country, so someone in Italy has 'fuck.it'.
Here in Oz you can pay more & have 'com', 'net', 'org', 'gov' or 'edu', etc, without the '.au' after it, or pay less & have '.au' after it (well that how it seems to work much of the time).
But there must be a TLD before
There's some old ecentric coder too, who was the 1st to bring TLDs to Australia & ran the whole thing till the govt & corporates took over. Back in those days he registed some strange TLDs like dropbear.au, etc. The govt/corporate world don'r like these strange TLDs of his floating about, so they are trying to have them cancelled.
Well 47 i586 RPMs for Man8.
Really they should have a 48th RPM that has the whole lot in one pkg, so if you want to download/instal the whole lot, you can just download the one file.
Read your history books
By UN precedent (going back to Nazi settlers in occupied Poland) they are conside war crime.
Remember they are the ones chosing to settle on ethnically cleansed land.
You know that Israeli settlements are in contravention of the Geneva Convention (A49P6), the Hague Convention (1906C), the IDHR & dozens of UN resolutions.
& the only reason Israel gets away with all this is because American politicians are so shitscared of the Jewish Lobby & American Jews voting as a block on a single issue. Consequently the US uses the threat of its veto to water down any UN resolutions against Israel to the point of uselessness.
Which is the reason that Israel hasn't been forced by a 20 year campaign of sanctions to comply with international norms, Like South Africa was.
If you knew anything about what brought the 2nd gulf war to head it was the fact that Kuwait had been stealing billions in Iraqi oil via angled pumps or something.
Iraq wanted 5 billion in compo, Kuwaited offered 3 billion, & Saddam took it as an insult.
Well it went something like that.
they beleive that 70 of their best friends & relatives will also be guarenteed automatic tickets to heaven by their sacrifice.
& stop listening to fuckwit 'christian zionists'.
The conflict between the Jews & the Arabs was created by Theodore Herzl when he conceived the idea of zionism just over 100 years ago.
Before then, the Islamic/Arab worlds were where thousands apon thousands of Jews sought sanctiory (& prospured, too) from the on going inquisitions & pogroms of Christian Europe (as far as field as Spain to the Ukraine).
The simple fact is, & even Israeli experts agree on this, if zionism had not been conceived about a century ago, there would be no Israeli/Arab conflict today.
While the US continues to base its foreign policies on domestic politics: - ie, because of the influence of the Zionist lobby & US politicians being shitscared of Jewish voyers voting as a block on a single issue, the US continues to support Israel (with more aid in any given year than the whole continent of South America); even though Israel's welfare is not really a relivent to the US's strategic interest; you can't really blame foreign interests if they decide to take things out on the American people.
For example, using the example of Israel. While Israel refuses to permit the return of Palestinian refugees & refuses to return confiscated properties (before 1948 the Arabs owned about 90% of the land, after the mass expulsion & expropiations of 1948 they owned only 4%), Israel is in contravention of the Geneva Convention (A49P6), the Hague Convention (1906C), the IDHR & dozens of UN resolutions. Yet because of the US's UNSC veto, any resolutions against Israel get watered down to uselessness. So when Palestinians continue to live in poverty & see their children die everyday from US firearms; can you blame 'em for wanting to send a message back to the American people.
That's enough ranting.
But its pretty obvious that the arming of Israel would make the US a target.
Anyway why buy services from someone who has to cover the cost of developing free software by charging you more.
Much cheaper to buy services from someone with no such overheads.
Gez they can even provide a burn of the RH CD image for $5 as part of the service.
Has it payed out any dividends?
Download the 'free beer' QNX 6.1 RTP (X86), it has all the tools for Porting software to IPaq's ARM QNX setup (well from what I heard, anyway)
I've yet to see a Linux distribution par a 'fair dinkum' dividend.
There forte is being the OS of choice for nuclear reactors & 'machines that go beep' in hospitals.
Whether installing it on its own partition or in a virtual partition, it makes installing even Mandrake 8 seem horribly complicated.
It's Photon GUI looks heaps better than even the 6.0 version.
Well QNX 6 RTP X86 is, I don't know about the rest.
Also bootup time with QNX makes Linux look like a 90 year old grandma doped to the eye balls on stelazine & benzos to make things easy for the nursing home staff.
Except for the fact it has a login dialogue popup QNX makes BeOS bootup look slow.
Once they have their bots on the board, Suse will find some reason to give up working on that port.
As far as they are concerned they are just buying a TV with the internet as a free extra.
Just have the Internet Aplliance built into the TVs PCB, with a trackball built into the remote & equipe them with a wireless keyboard, a USB plug (for printers, etc) & a Firewire plug (for cam-corder connectivity).
Just think, 'all Sony TVs come with free internet', the grandmas will buy them in droves.
So they'l clock like a Lockheed Blackbird, while performing like a Brewster Buffalo; which is what Intel's done with the Pentium 4's p7 core.
Personally I think AMD's approach is a lot more honest.
Traditionally when a new generation core came out, clock for clock it performed better than the previous generation core.
Hence Intel's p5 core (the 1st Pentium) Pentium 100 (100mhz) ran better or equal to a 486 running at 120 to 130mhz. The same thing occured when the p6 core design came out (the core design of the Pentium Pro, Pentium II & Pentium !!! CPUs) - the Pentium Pro 150 performed better or equal to a Pentium running at about 180mhz (especially with full 32bit OSes)
Where as Intel's p7 cored P4 performs noticebly worce, clock for clock, than Intel's previous generation p6 cored P!!!
In effect Intel's gone & performed the same dodgy trick VIA did with their Cyrix III mark II design.
When the Cyrix 3 1st came out it had Cyrix's next generation (Cayenne/Joshua) core, which had the best performing X86 integer core in the game (the 686 integer core), dual 80 bit floating point units, 2 MMX units & 2 3DNow units, 64K L1 cache & 256K L2 cache & it was designed to run on any bus from 50 to 150mhz.
& clock for clock it was a screamer - the Cyrix III (Cayenne/Joshua) PR500 (400mhz model) ran up to 60% faster than a 500mhz Celeron, on the same hardware/software platform, going by Tom's Hardware Guide (I figured I'd link them seeing this thread started with a link with them). But it just wouldn't clock much faster than that, which wasn't good enough for VIA so they replaced the Cyrix III (Joshua/Cayenne) with IDT Centaur's Winchip Samuel core & called that the Cyrix III instead. This Samuel core performed like a dog (it even had no L2 cache, though it did have a K7 like 128KB L1 cache) but it could clock up to a GB, which is what VIA wanted.
The Samuel Winchip cum Cyrix III wasn't/isn't all bad, relatively speaking it runs very cool, VIA even demonstrated it running without a fansink. So it could definitly have a place in X86 based embedded platforms.