I guess I'm trying to say that it may have been a vandals dream, but just because you can vadalize something doesn't mean it's not secure.
You can, for example, fly a plane into the Pentagon, but it's probably much harder to walk out of then Pentagon with classified information that you can actually use.
"The worst disaster" - give me a break. The 400 Wintel servers in our Data Center serving clinical applications beg to differ...
Why does 'security' always mean web servers? Cmon folks, there is more to this world than http.
Shouldn't it include things like Active Directory? Built in encrypting filesystem - Enforce IPsec via group policy. Enforce firewalls via policy. Policy based, domain wide auditing.
As a matter of fact, I've seen exactly 1 virus cause trouble on those 400 servers.
When did security start to mean 'we had less updates than you this month?'
I really wish journalists (and slashdotters) would make a distinction between 'linux' and 'commercial adoption of linux.'
Even if all of the developers 'leave linux and start writing osx apps' - linux will still be successful with it's target audience. Who is the target audience? Beats me, but I'm pretty sure it aint the type of user who uses OS X.
So every time I read an article about how great google is, it is usally about how the greatest minds in computer science are mostly having lunch and working on 'personal' projects.....
No wonder they come up with such mind boggling products like: Email, News, News Groups, Online Shopping.
Earth to smartfart come in, smartfart. Earth to smartfart, come in, smartfart.
You think redhat gives two farts about "companies that would never consider buying an enterprise product" ? What obligation should Redhat have? Every product eventually gets eol'd, why should a free product be any different?
AIX might not be important in your bedroom, but it is really important at the hospital I work at - it was a big part of the 200 million dollar investment they made to move to an electronic patient record.
The healthcare org I work for (3 hospitals, 3500 users) runs the Cache database - it's supposed to be and insanely stable - how does it differ from the traditional oracle/db2? Anybody care to explain in terms your typical slashdotter might understand?
The radio shack m100 from way way back would probably fit the bill, but it wouldn't fit in a jacket pocket. If I remember correctly, it ran on AA batteries. I think it had a serial port too. 64k ram, and a built in word processor...
Yes - I agree. I'm sick of people thinking I'm a computer science graduate when in fact I've been studying my ass off every night for 10 years as a systems admin. I've studied ONE subject for thousands and thousands of hours, and people think I just took a couple of programming classes when I was in school.
Dude - you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Extra Mile? These folks have gone THOUSANDS OF EXTRA miles - and there are plenty of polished products that ship, you may have heard of some of them:
Do you really believe that the folks that write this software get excited about animated icons? Those folks work at Apple, and they have their place. They have their own customer too, who pays them for this polish.
Smart people don't get excited about stupid eye candy software for stupid users. There are simply too many interesting projects.
Didn't they generate millions of dollars in sales?
I'm starting to feel bad for these guys - remember, there are real people, with real families working there. I doubt most of them have anything to do with the lawsuits...
I really get a kick out of how seriously this place takes itself.
This isn't a news site with an editorial staff and real journalists - it's just a freaking list of stories with some one liners.
Stop trying to compare this place to CNN folks - I don't think you should hold them to the same standards - it's a linux enthusiast site for freaks sakes, and the folks you are comparing them to are supposed to be objecive.
The pharmaceutical industry receives huge subsidies from us - they don't produce "open" drugs - why should this be any different? I know it's apples and oranges - but one should be really careful about the idea of withholding funds from -good- research just because of licensing issues. Lesser of two evils? Would we rather have -no- research?
I stopped buying Blizzard games for this reason. I still like StarCraft though - but after they shutdown FreeCraft and/or the Battlenet server project, I made myself a promise to never give them another cent.
Slashdot is certainly a place to be heard - but sometimes you have to make a statement with your wallet.
I would FU*(#@$_ING love to see a boycott of Blizzard -
And no, I'm not talking about stupid word processors or image editing programs.
I'm talking about healthcare apps.
We run 3 hospitals with Windows as the client. That's 8000 users. I am part of the Citrix team - we have over 3600 concurrent connections to our farm. These are clinical appliactions. We are a paperless hospital. There are no paper charts. Everything is digital. Nurses use Wyse Winterms at the bedside. What do they see? A (highly secured) windows desktop.
The Windows platform works well for us. Patients lives depend on this platform.
Screw this author and his old lady using Word on a Mac. When you can replace the clinical apps in a hospital with Macs - write about it . Until vendors offer their applications on a different platform what choice do we have?
geezus... It pisses me off that people think that Windows users and admins sit around fighting spyware and running word all day. Our job is to keep our applications UP. We are judged by our uptime, not our platform choices...
The Answer: The distribution your application vendor supports.
If you don't run an application on it - who cares? Pick anything - if it's just a commodity web server or dns server, heck, even windows can do the job.
Ease of administration shouldn't even be on the list of features. Too many admins think about themselves rather than the company. If something makes your job harder - tough - an admin should do the RIGHT thing - not the EASY thing.
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I guess I'm trying to say that it may have been a vandals dream, but just because you can vadalize something doesn't mean it's not secure.
You can, for example, fly a plane into the Pentagon, but it's probably much harder to walk out of then Pentagon with classified information that you can actually use.
"The worst disaster" - give me a break. The 400 Wintel servers in our Data Center serving clinical applications beg to differ...
Why does 'security' always mean web servers? Cmon folks, there is more to this world than http.
Shouldn't it include things like Active Directory? Built in encrypting filesystem - Enforce IPsec via group policy. Enforce firewalls via policy. Policy based, domain wide auditing.
As a matter of fact, I've seen exactly 1 virus cause trouble on those 400 servers.
When did security start to mean 'we had less updates than you this month?'
How could intel inside a mac harm a kernel?
I really wish journalists (and slashdotters) would make a distinction between 'linux' and 'commercial adoption of linux.'
Even if all of the developers 'leave linux and start writing osx apps' - linux will still be successful with it's target audience. Who is the target audience? Beats me, but I'm pretty sure it aint the type of user who uses OS X.
So every time I read an article about how great google is, it is usally about how the greatest minds in computer science are mostly having lunch and working on 'personal' projects .....
No wonder they come up with such mind boggling products like: Email, News, News Groups, Online Shopping.
Earth to smartfart
come in, smartfart.
Earth to smartfart,
come in, smartfart.
You think redhat gives two farts about "companies that would never consider buying an enterprise product" ? What obligation should Redhat have? Every product eventually gets eol'd, why should a free product be any different?
AIX might not be important in your bedroom, but it is really important at the hospital I work at - it was a big part of the 200 million dollar investment they made to move to an electronic patient record.
Let's all try to remember that this is supposed to be 'stuff that matters' -
I hate to break it to everybody, but this doesn't matter.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
only a sith thinks in absolutes
GNU/Linux was successful before it was a commercial success.
It will continue to be successful even if commercial support dies off.
Why you Ask?
Because it does the job better. Plain and simple.
The healthcare org I work for (3 hospitals, 3500 users) runs the Cache database - it's supposed to be and insanely stable - how does it differ from the traditional oracle/db2? Anybody care to explain in terms your typical slashdotter might understand?
The radio shack m100 from way way back would probably fit the bill, but it wouldn't fit in a jacket pocket. If I remember correctly, it ran on AA batteries. I think it had a serial port too. 64k ram, and a built in word processor...
Yah - I'll say - a key number of people disagree. Every sysadmin on the planet -
Yes - I agree. I'm sick of people thinking I'm a computer science graduate when in fact I've been studying my ass off every night for 10 years as a systems admin. I've studied ONE subject for thousands and thousands of hours, and people think I just took a couple of programming classes when I was in school.
Simple - use terminal server and use those PC's and thin clients.
If you add Citrix on top of Terminal Services, you get packaging and deployment tools as well.
This way you get a common platform that is easy to update and is accessible from any device, from any location.
no - they aren't missing the point.
If you want "the point" - as you put it -
Rewrite the damn thing yourself - the way you want it - you have the code, after all. That is the point. Period.
Dude - you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Extra Mile? These folks have gone THOUSANDS OF EXTRA miles - and there are plenty of polished products that ship, you may have heard of some of them:
a ,rsync,wine
-GNU/Linux
-Apache
-MySql, PostgreSql, Firebird
-KDE/Gnome
-GCC,Perl,Python,PHP
-Samb
Do you really believe that the folks that write this software get excited about animated icons? Those folks work at Apple, and they have their place. They have their own customer too, who pays them for this polish.
Smart people don't get excited about stupid eye candy software for stupid users. There are simply too many interesting projects.
Did I say that out loud?
Didn't they generate millions of dollars in sales?
I'm starting to feel bad for these guys - remember, there are real people, with real families working there. I doubt most of them have anything to do with the lawsuits...
I really get a kick out of how seriously this place takes itself.
This isn't a news site with an editorial staff and real journalists - it's just a freaking list of stories with some one liners.
Stop trying to compare this place to CNN folks - I don't think you should hold them to the same standards - it's a linux enthusiast site for freaks sakes, and the folks you are comparing them to are supposed to be objecive.
Software doesn't matter...
I work for a healthcare org that is completely paperless. Charts are electronic. Wireless Wyse Terminals at the bedside -
Most of the clinical apps are deployed via Citrix.
The pharmaceutical industry receives huge subsidies from us - they don't produce "open" drugs - why should this be any different? I know it's apples and oranges - but one should be really careful about the idea of withholding funds from -good- research just because of licensing issues. Lesser of two evils? Would we rather have -no- research?
complicated...
I stopped buying Blizzard games for this reason. I still like StarCraft though - but after they shutdown FreeCraft and/or the Battlenet server project, I made myself a promise to never give them another cent.
Slashdot is certainly a place to be heard - but sometimes you have to make a statement with your wallet.
I would FU*(#@$_ING love to see a boycott of Blizzard -
Why the %$*(#$ is everybody talking about word documents?
I believe Bill was talking about Directory Services, Mainframes, etc...
They simply aren't availbable on Macs - DUH
And no, I'm not talking about stupid word processors or image editing programs.
I'm talking about healthcare apps.
We run 3 hospitals with Windows as the client. That's 8000 users. I am part of the Citrix team - we have over 3600 concurrent connections to our farm. These are clinical appliactions. We are a paperless hospital. There are no paper charts. Everything is digital. Nurses use Wyse Winterms at the bedside. What do they see? A (highly secured) windows desktop.
The Windows platform works well for us. Patients lives depend on this platform.
Screw this author and his old lady using Word on a Mac. When you can replace the clinical apps in a hospital with Macs - write about it . Until vendors offer their applications on a different platform what choice do we have?
geezus... It pisses me off that people think that Windows users and admins sit around fighting spyware and running word all day. Our job is to keep our applications UP. We are judged by our uptime, not our platform choices...
This is an easy one -
The Answer:
The distribution your application vendor supports.
If you don't run an application on it - who cares? Pick anything - if it's just a commodity web server or dns server, heck, even windows can do the job.
Ease of administration shouldn't even be on the list of features. Too many admins think about themselves rather than the company. If something makes your job harder - tough - an admin should do the RIGHT thing - not the EASY thing.
It would be a shame to get through the interview process and tests only to learn that you had one final test to get through:
the piss test
does anybody know if Google, who advertises to the world about how they really like to find the right PEOPLE, really likes to find clean urine?
Are they just piss collectors?