...your boss says "Hey, I need to drive the forklift. Give me your token." What do you do?
It would depend:
1. If the boss gave me the token in the first place, I would have him sign off that I'm returning it to him at THIS moment in time - liability his, henceforth.
2. If the state issued me the token (like a pilots license) I could refuse under state law.
I don't want to go too far off topic but, oh well..
First of all, there is a huge divide between "thinking you were a card carrying Marxist" and actually pointing a loaded gun at slave laborers.
Second; "Should that be held against me for the rest of my life?"
I don't think thinking anything should be held against anyone, but Ratzinger wasn't 'thinking' about serving Adolph Hitler, he did it.
Now, if you asked something like, "I joined the Communist party, supported them financially, organized rallies, and ran several newspapers. Should that be held against me for the rest of my life?" My answer would be "It shouldn't keep you from being a baker or a window washer; but I don't think you should head up the world-wide anti-Communist task force."
My point being: I'm not judging this man as a baker or a window washer; I'm commenting that he was chosen, out of millions of Catholics worldwide, as the very best, most moral, peaceful person, elected to morally lead the millions who follow him; and in that role I think he falls far short. From his service to Hitler, to slapping a journalist who asked him a question he didn't like, to declaring all sex abuse cases to be papal secrets, to saying condoms help spread AIDS, etc.
I mean no disrespect to Catholics or Christianity in any way; but you must ask yourself: "Is this man qualified to be the moral lighthouse to millions of us? Is he the best we can offer?
...and just for the record, I love the Marx brothers!":)
Yes... it was mandatory for boys from 10 YO to 14 YO to join Deutsche Jungvolk and he somehow avoided joining then. Why did he decide to join Hitlerjugend in "42?
Resistance to the reich was possible; in fact only 100 yards from his house Hans Braxenthaler, a resistance fighter, was hiding out.
I'm not saying that every German who obeyed the Nazi's was evil - I'm not saying he should be put on trial; but I would think that someone who had been an active participant in guarding slave laborers from Dachau at gunpoint, and later watching silently as Jews were rounded up for transport to death camps in Hungary, isn't qualified to be the "moral leader" of anyone.
This is not the first time they've fought transparency:
As late as 1890 the bible was in Latin, and the laity were forbidden to read or interpret the bible.
Only the priests were allowed to interpret the bible, and they were usually the only ones who knew Latin.
Actually, he signed up voluntarily for both the Hitler Youth and military service. When he joined the Hitler Youth, for example, it was after mandatory conscription. His brother managed to escape service to both.
Likewise, when confronted with the fact that he was guarding Jewish slave factory workers at gunpoint, his rebuttal was that "his gun wasn't loaded" as if that excused it.
At another time he said that "his trigger finger was infected" so he couldn't have shot the Jewish slave factory workers in any case.
...but if you are a jazz musician, you lose the ability to count money, you are constantly inhaling tobacco and other (ahem) noxious fumes, you are ingesting toxic alcohol, you never see sunlight, or get exercise, your sleep cycles are disrupted...
But (if we say that the universe has been around for 14 billion years) you've only been alive for 13,000 of 5,110,000,000,000 possible days; or 5,109,999,987,000 dead days against 13,000 live days.
So, although you've had a good sequential run, you are more likely dead.
My favorite story along these lines comes from the very early days of computing:
“Recently, I was asked if I was going to fire an employee who made a mistake that cost the company $600,000.
'No', I replied, 'I just spent $600,000 training him. Why would I want somebody to hire his experience?'"
Thomas J. Watson
President of IBM from 1914 to 1956
Thank you for pointing out the weakness of my immaturely stated argument.
I write to communicate as clearly as possible.
Since you understood by my use of the expression "Sorry... fail" that I disagreed with Roger's position; then I feel that I succeeded in communicating to you.
It is obvious by your well reasoned response that I additionally succeeded in making you listen to me, in contradiction to your last statement.
However, in the hope of making my point clear to those older readers who did not understand the import of the phrase: "Sorry... fail" I will restate my conclusion:
Hey Roger, your biggest, and only, contribution to film making was writing "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" and you don't think that "Okami" is art?
I'm sorry, but I feel that in my position as a patron of the fine arts, and a cinema aficionado, I must disagree with your position most strongly.
Let's keep in mind the following timeline:
"Space Wars" came out in 1977, that's only 33 years ago.
The Lumiere brothers made "Train Pulling Into A Station" in 1895.
that's 115 years ago.
Now, Roger, you of all people know your film history, and the kind of films that were being made about 33 years after film was invented. Do you really want to say that: "The Loves of Ricardo" and "Kling, Klang Gloria", and were 'art' and "Shadow of the Colossus" and "Bioshock" are not?
Hey Roger, your biggest, and only, contribution to film making was writing "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" and you don't think that "Okami" is art?
You are correct...
He is simply defining true 'art' to specifically exclude games, by saying that anything where you can 'win' or 'lose' is automatically not art. To this end, I would ask him the following:
Is that screwed up photo I took with my thumb in front of the camera lens 'art'?
Is the Lumiere brothers "Train Pulling Into A Station" art?
Is a cinematic inside a game art? After all, it's really a movie since the player can't affect the outcome)
Is a 'sandbox' game, like the Sims, 'art'; since the player can interact but there is no 'winning' or 'losing'?
Is a film where the audience can affect the outcome (I don't remember which movie(s) it was; but they had button boxes where you could vote for the outcome you wanted) still 'art'... or is it now a game?
Or... in that vein... is a cinema based game (like Spycraft) any different than the multi-ending movie (above)? Or is he now reduced to saying a movie with 4 or less endings is 'art' and 5 or more possible outcomes is not?
I've been more moved by some games, than some of the paintings I saw in the Louvre, but I would never presume to say either of them is not art.
If there was something for $500 that adobe would sell for basic development, and then add on packages, that would be great. But they have these complex $2K packages
You don't have to buy the big packages. You can get Adobe Photoshop Elements 8 for about $100 and the PLUS version for $140 and add anything you like from there...
This is like this stuff:
http://www.d3olab.com/index2.php?section=21-tech
used in protective gear that hardens on sudden impact, and remains plastic the rest of the time. Maybe they could layer the tee with this stuff.
I first saw this at Nextfest a couple of years ago.
Slashdot Mirror
Correct...sort of how Mendel was able to calculate heredity, without knowing anything about DNA.
...agreed. The reason she/he is called 'boss' is because she/he can order you to do things.
You agree to this arraignment when you accept money from them.
As long as their orders are lawful (no mater what you think of their utility) you need to: obey them, or quit.
This is why in the military if you follow a lawful order from a commanding officer, any repercussions fall on the officer who issued them.
...your boss says "Hey, I need to drive the forklift. Give me your token." What do you do?
It would depend:
1. If the boss gave me the token in the first place, I would have him sign off that I'm returning it to him at THIS moment in time - liability his, henceforth.
2. If the state issued me the token (like a pilots license) I could refuse under state law.
I think George Carlin said it best:
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
I don't want to go too far off topic but, oh well..
...and just for the record, I love the Marx brothers!" :)
First of all, there is a huge divide between "thinking you were a card carrying Marxist" and actually pointing a loaded gun at slave laborers.
Second; "Should that be held against me for the rest of my life?"
I don't think thinking anything should be held against anyone, but Ratzinger wasn't 'thinking' about serving Adolph Hitler, he did it.
Now, if you asked something like, "I joined the Communist party, supported them financially, organized rallies, and ran several newspapers. Should that be held against me for the rest of my life?" My answer would be "It shouldn't keep you from being a baker or a window washer; but I don't think you should head up the world-wide anti-Communist task force."
My point being: I'm not judging this man as a baker or a window washer; I'm commenting that he was chosen, out of millions of Catholics worldwide, as the very best, most moral, peaceful person, elected to morally lead the millions who follow him; and in that role I think he falls far short. From his service to Hitler, to slapping a journalist who asked him a question he didn't like, to declaring all sex abuse cases to be papal secrets, to saying condoms help spread AIDS, etc.
I mean no disrespect to Catholics or Christianity in any way; but you must ask yourself: "Is this man qualified to be the moral lighthouse to millions of us? Is he the best we can offer?
Yes... it was mandatory for boys from 10 YO to 14 YO to join Deutsche Jungvolk and he somehow avoided joining then. Why did he decide to join Hitlerjugend in "42?
Resistance to the reich was possible; in fact only 100 yards from his house Hans Braxenthaler, a resistance fighter, was hiding out.
I'm not saying that every German who obeyed the Nazi's was evil - I'm not saying he should be put on trial; but I would think that someone who had been an active participant in guarding slave laborers from Dachau at gunpoint, and later watching silently as Jews were rounded up for transport to death camps in Hungary, isn't qualified to be the "moral leader" of anyone.
Aside from being sorry for his past, as recently as 2009 he re-admitted Holocaust denier Richard Williamson back to the church after Williamson had been excommunicated back in 1988
There was a movie made in 1953 "Le salaire de la peur" with a hero named "Mario" who had a best friend "Luigi"
Take a look at this still and see if it make you think of Mario!
This is not the first time they've fought transparency:
As late as 1890 the bible was in Latin, and the laity were forbidden to read or interpret the bible.
Only the priests were allowed to interpret the bible, and they were usually the only ones who knew Latin.
Actually, he signed up voluntarily for both the Hitler Youth and military service. When he joined the Hitler Youth, for example, it was after mandatory conscription. His brother managed to escape service to both.
Likewise, when confronted with the fact that he was guarding Jewish slave factory workers at gunpoint, his rebuttal was that "his gun wasn't loaded" as if that excused it.
At another time he said that "his trigger finger was infected" so he couldn't have shot the Jewish slave factory workers in any case.
The Intrepid has below deck display areas too.
It might be safe below, as long as the ship keeps floating for 500 years...
Yes, but do we have a binding 'contract' with Slashdot?
There isn't a consideration (in the legal sense)
...but if you are a jazz musician, you lose the ability to count money, you are constantly inhaling tobacco and other (ahem) noxious fumes, you are ingesting toxic alcohol, you never see sunlight, or get exercise, your sleep cycles are disrupted...
But (if we say that the universe has been around for 14 billion years) you've only been alive for 13,000 of 5,110,000,000,000 possible days; or 5,109,999,987,000 dead days against 13,000 live days.
So, although you've had a good sequential run, you are more likely dead.
He didn't steal it from the guy, it was found abandon.
It didn't say if it was marked "Property of Apple" on it.
I believe this falls under the California Penal Code Section 485 "Finders v. Keepers" 1952
Yes....vaginal, oral and anal. Three times.
...hopefully, not all three at the same time...
My favorite story along these lines comes from the very early days of computing:
“Recently, I was asked if I was going to fire an employee who made a mistake that cost the company $600,000.
'No', I replied, 'I just spent $600,000 training him. Why would I want somebody to hire his experience?'"
Thomas J. Watson
President of IBM from 1914 to 1956
Thank you for pointing out the weakness of my immaturely stated argument.
:)
I write to communicate as clearly as possible.
Since you understood by my use of the expression "Sorry... fail" that I disagreed with Roger's position; then I feel that I succeeded in communicating to you.
It is obvious by your well reasoned response that I additionally succeeded in making you listen to me, in contradiction to your last statement.
However, in the hope of making my point clear to those older readers who did not understand the import of the phrase: "Sorry... fail" I will restate my conclusion:
Hey Roger, your biggest, and only, contribution to film making was writing "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" and you don't think that "Okami" is art?
I'm sorry, but I feel that in my position as a patron of the fine arts, and a cinema aficionado, I must disagree with your position most strongly.
There! Fixed that for, er... me.
Better yet: use human waste for... ...golf courses.
I've tried this at my local course; but for some reason they always start yelling at me...
Let's keep in mind the following timeline:
"Space Wars" came out in 1977, that's only 33 years ago.
The Lumiere brothers made "Train Pulling Into A Station" in 1895.
that's 115 years ago.
Now, Roger, you of all people know your film history, and the kind of films that were being made about 33 years after film was invented. Do you really want to say that: "The Loves of Ricardo" and "Kling, Klang Gloria", and were 'art' and "Shadow of the Colossus" and "Bioshock" are not?
Hey Roger, your biggest, and only, contribution to film making was writing "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" and you don't think that "Okami" is art?
Sorry... fail.
Put it in a jar and it might be by "modern" standards.
You are correct...
He is simply defining true 'art' to specifically exclude games, by saying that anything where you can 'win' or 'lose' is automatically not art. To this end, I would ask him the following:
Is that screwed up photo I took with my thumb in front of the camera lens 'art'?
Is the Lumiere brothers "Train Pulling Into A Station" art?
Is a cinematic inside a game art? After all, it's really a movie since the player can't affect the outcome)
Is a 'sandbox' game, like the Sims, 'art'; since the player can interact but there is no 'winning' or 'losing'?
Is a film where the audience can affect the outcome (I don't remember which movie(s) it was; but they had button boxes where you could vote for the outcome you wanted) still 'art'... or is it now a game?
Or... in that vein... is a cinema based game (like Spycraft) any different than the multi-ending movie (above)? Or is he now reduced to saying a movie with 4 or less endings is 'art' and 5 or more possible outcomes is not?
I've been more moved by some games, than some of the paintings I saw in the Louvre, but I would never presume to say either of them is not art.
If there was something for $500 that adobe would sell for basic development, and then add on packages, that would be great. But they have these complex $2K packages
You don't have to buy the big packages. You can get Adobe Photoshop Elements 8 for about $100 and the PLUS version for $140 and add anything you like from there...
Ubik wouldn't be much harder than "6th Sense" but with cooler effects.
This is like this stuff:
http://www.d3olab.com/index2.php?section=21-tech
used in protective gear that hardens on sudden impact, and remains plastic the rest of the time. Maybe they could layer the tee with this stuff.
I first saw this at Nextfest a couple of years ago.
That's exactly what I was thinking - maybe the bullet won't kill you, but will the shirt?
Just ask Jon-Erik Hexum.