This alt-left/right almost requires the usage of both hands which is not very comfortable. I like to surf with one hand on the mouse, and one on the keyboard. In opera - almost everything has a single-key shortcut, which makes this perfectly possible. There are also always the mouse guestures, which now almost every alternative browser has tried to immitate - but none of these implementations can match the comfort of them in Opera - in my opinion that is:)
5) The "dissappearing data" is done for a reason. When another untrusted app takes control of the OS (by being the top window), it has access to the framebuffer. So it would be simple to start an app, position the window so it doesn't completely obscure the trusted app, then read the framebuffer. Whatever info you want is right there in a bitmap. It would be nice if there were a better way to protect the framebuffer when a trusted app is alive, but it may not be possible in Windows.
So far the multitasking/multithreading on a windows desktop system? Back to the 80's?
I agree with all of your points - I found the following quote especially interesting:
Mozilla is a browser designed by developers to be used by themselves, while Opera has been designed the end user in mind.
If you start thinking of this - it's really that way... There is no commercial force that drives the user interface - only developers that want to integrate nifty technological features that are not always that handy in the end - or try to implement features with other "features" just because it's possible - not because it's the best way to do it (look at mouse guesture implementations in moz). I also think that at this moment Moz gives a way too high priority to the looks - and not to the "feels" of the user interface.. it all looks nice - but it's static - and the user interface itself is only customizable in a very limited way...
I tried all the guesture plugins mozilla/mozilla based browsers have - but none of these work well.. Actually - the one you pointed out cause my mozilla to show up a completely blank window - nothing on it - guess the XUL interface choked on it... And since I couldn't find how to install such a plugin in an easy way as a normal user - I installed it as root on my gentoo system - bad Idea - it modified the global settings - so for every user - mozilla was suddenly useless... Oh yeah - phoenix choked on it too... Galeon wasn't affected - but the mouse guesture plugin doesn't work for it anyway... had to re-emerge the whole mozilla bloat-thing to get rid of it (in an easy way;):p) And when recompiling mozilla - I can't stop wondering what that huge amount of code does - when gecko can be - and is so fast (see galeon) - and mozilla is plain slow.
I still favor Opera for a lot of other things, like the multi-window interface - not the "fake" and uncomfortable in use "tabbed window" interface... You can't even customize the position of the tabs (top/bottom/left/right), let alone reorganize or drag and drop (only in Opera 7 however - not yet there for linux:( ) - or save window setups...
Until now - opera seems to me as the most innovative browser around - in every version - new and handy (little) features show up... In mozilla - maybe it's just me - I can't detect such innovations. The only innovation in mozilla is the gecko engine - I consider the bloatware XUL user interface as a (very very very) bad thing (thats why I use galeon from time to time - but it lacks a good user interface).
If you would ask me - what innovations are you talking about? - well there are some very nice things here: - page zooming - back-forward using mouse only without even moving the mouse (as already pointed out) - Quick menu to enable/disable/control popups, proxy's, java, javascript, plugins, cookies, referrer logging and browser identification - inline find - hotkeys for everything... keyboard-only browsing is not only perfectly possible - it's even quiet comfortable.. - crash recovery (no program is perfect - opera also crashes now and then) - continue exactly where you were before... - Linked background windows - Easy to reach page reload timer - Powerfull file transfer manager - quick search with any search engine using the adress bar
For any of these features - you need more than 2 mouseclicks - I didn't had to look into menu's or preferences to find them - they are all right here on my screen, being used - or easy to reach thru right-click-menus... That's what I like about opera - and no other browser even comes near to what opera has to offer on UI level. Open source is nice - I like it - but out there are companies that also have to earn money and deserve it - Opera is one of these where I gladly give money for to have this comfort. Opensource will catch up - but when it does - the opensource community will 'bring/keep their own standards' (on ui-level at least - like it already tried a lot) while other ways can be way more handy - so users that are used to the Opera interface will have difficulties to switch - and rather stay with opera (and maybe pay for it - or look at banners) than to switch to a simular but 'incompatible' user interface, or Opera will maybe have a whole load of new handy small features... Don't be mistaken - a user interface is something very complicated - details are everything - and with opera - almost all the details are there...
PS: Guys like you piss me off... calling peepz you ignorant clod while it could very well be applied to themselfs... You clearly never used opera - so you don't know what you are talking about... - you should really try it - you could learn something from it - and maybe even bring it to an opensource project...
Here in Belgium it's the same - the largest lan-party here was 1600 people... And that for a small country with 10 milj inhabitants... I was really suprised when I read that..
Hmmm by the way - according to the official site - it would be canada's largest lanparty...
Well - I don't know - but in a desktop environment I think you have your hand on the mouse quiet a lot. In a browser - nothing above a mouse (WITH scrollwheel) and the "holdright-clickleft" and "holdleft-clickright" mousebutton combinations in opera. That is way faster than the guestures - and most of the functionality in opera is available much faster thru keyboard shortcuts. When I started using opera - I loved the concept and used it a lot, but now - except for the mouse button combo's - I don't use mouseguestures anymore - I lost too much time when I missed one.
In a browsing environment (i'm still talking about opera) - most of the times when you "need" a functionality available thru mouse guesture or keyboard shortcut - the next thing you will need is the keyboard anyway (wtf is the point of opening a new empty window with your mouse??) And I still have 2 hands available - like most people I hope - left hand for keyboard-shortcuts - right hand for mouse clicking, scrolling, back/forward mouse button combo's.
In a desktop environment - I really don't see the point of using these guestures - you'll have to change the direction of your mouse multiple times - and the only thing you _would_ use it for is frequently used applications, you simply wont remember guestures for an application that you use once a month o. The frequently used apps - I put in a taskbar - which are available with one mousemove - and one click, and often I even assign them a shortcut, much faster than drawing a picture on-screen:)
I see a lot of people discussing about user-friendlyness, and discussing hardware, but isn't the real issue piracy? I estimate that about 50% of the games played at home on a pc are illegal copies - why? Because it's easy on pc. Here in europe - I can get an illegal copy of almost all games weeks or months before they are available in stores... What do you do then? Right - most of you would go for the copied version and decide to buy the game later.. (that's what I usually do when I like the game) It really isn't that hard to get - for kids at school - there's always a boy with "connections" that can deliver you a nice cd - or collegues at work - or maybe you have some connections yourself...
Now there are different things that can happen when you start playing a game and it becomes available in stores afterwards 1 - you saw enough of the game - it bores you at the time it's available in stores 2 - it's single player only - finisched it already - no need to buy the game 3 - You tested the game, and it wasn't what you expected it to be - basicly it sucks 4 - it's a game you like to play now and then - but certainly not worth what they are asking in the shops 5 - you like the game - you play it a lot - decide to buy it 6 - you need a cdkey to play online so you buy it.
Owkay - now that's it I think... So games are bought because: - They have a large community around it - people feel themselfs obligated to buy the game (then the game needs to be really good) - You need a cdkey to play online and that's what you want - You can't get any illegal copies
Piracy on pc's for home usage has become very widespread, at least as far as I can see, that's it. For consoles - it is much harder to get illegal copies. For XBox and PS2 - you need a modchip. On PS2 - this is relatively simple compared to what there has to be done on an XBox - but still - hardware has to be modified - BIG step - void the warranty. Then you need a copy of a game - both PS2 and XBox are DVD - most of them don't even know that it's possible to copy a PS2/Xbox game - and I havn't seen any copies of Gamecube games around (since they need a special smaller format of DVD's - I think this will be almost impossible)
Also, basicly - what you want when you buy a console is - off course - to play games. So what do you do? You buy them Another aspect here is that kids console games as a present for christmas/b'day/... while for a PC - this is usually not the case. The kids may see it as a "game machine" - but the parents and family usually see it more as an "educational" tool. Not something to play games on. Much less PC games are given as presents than console games - kids need to buy them theirselfs - and what do they do when they can get it for free? Certainly not spend their money on it - that can be used for other purposes - and kids in this time may have more money than ever before - this is still not that much that they suddenly can miss $50 or the equivalent.
Well - I am a currently doing embedded work in Java and I can't say he's entirely wrong. When you are working on embedded 68k of 386 (did both) with a small memory footprint (2 to 8mb for code+data+disk) you really know what makes java slow. The entire stream concept is very powerfull, but also very slow, and since amost all IO is done thru streaming, this has severe performance impacts. On these platforms there is also the issue that creating a new object certainly takes some time (however, on modern machines, this is not notable or even faster than not creating a new instance).
Java as a language is very nice, but the runtime is the problem (and standard java-requirements) Indeed JIT's make it faster, but don't believe or assume that it will speed up your app that much...
We made a Java->C "compiler" because a certain platform simply couldn't run java - so I think I know java a bit - garbage collection is hell. And since most Java application servers use "shared heap" you have lots of overhead when the garbage collector kicks in.
On the other hand, a lot of folks here seems to underestimate the power, flexibility and speed of PHP. I also know the language pritty well, and PHP simply doesn't need such a "bloatware" runtime as java does. There also exist optimizer plugins for PHP (actually Yahoo is using one if you read the article/presentation) and you would be amazed what speed you could archieve with those. PHP also has a garbage collector, but since every page has it's own non-shared memory - the garbage collector doesn't have to be that complicated or accurate as the java-one because the memory will be regarded as "empty" on the next page request, no action has to be taken in runtime other than reference counting and auto-cleaning of objects with 0 references, and doing a bit more efford when it is really needed (but then your script is probably bugged or badly written) With the java-memory model - this is somewhat more complicated (and resource intensive).
And last but not least - performance is very dependand on the writing style of the coder. Due to the nature of my job - I really pay attention to what I do and don't (as well in java as in any other language), and when I look into the (java) code of some guys from the web-department - it sometimes horrifies me. They assume memory and resources are there - and they shouldn't take care of that. Nothing is less true...
May I say that valve announced this patch for a very long time, and that all the info about the patch was available for a long time to (mod) developers before the patch was released to the public...
I think this is the Action developers fault, Counterstrike (my favorite) worked at that time with 1.1.0.0, if you remember?
Actually the quake 2 engine...
The game was started with the q1 engine, but during the developement, q2 came out, and they switched to the newer engine.
If KDE2 becomes more popular than GNOME, I'd either be surprised or apathetic.
Right now, KDE is mostly used in europe and asia(japan). In the US, gnome is more popular than KDE, simply because Redhat is one of the few distributions who install Gnome as default, and it is the most used distribution in the states. But the US isn't the entire world you know...
I live in Belgium, and I am a member of tina, a local Linux and other alternative OS's users group
I can tell you KDE is far more used than Gnome.
The few who have Redhad installed, run Gnome, most of the rest just tried it, but stayed with KDE. I switch windomanagers a lot, I tried Gnome, but found it sometimes confising (and at that time unstable). I just couldn't get a more recent verion of gnome working on my slackware, so I stick with KDE. I just hope it is really much faster and more memory efficient than 1.x, now most applications don't use corba anymore, because that was KDE's weak spot, and that's why I still run windowmaker a lot.
The Facts:
- M$ already ported Media player (1.5 year ago, but didn't release any codecs), sorry, all links dissapeared +-1 year ago from their website
- M$'s port of IE for solaris sucked big time, done with help of the same company...
- M$'s main money comes from the office products
My conclusions:
- M$ is already being split internally. (legal issues),and someone at M$ who likes Linux and got at the top during that process
- M$ is porting their "better" apps to linux. IE5 is not bad at all, Office runs kinda stable on my win98se (that's the only thing that runs stable;-)
- Staroffice is slow, wp pritty buggy, and both can't handle M$ file formats like they should. -> A lot of people will jump to M$ Office for linux (if not as buggy as IE for Solaris)
- Netscape doesn't support all current standards, and Opera is still beta, and has a lot of problems with java script. IE doesn't support all standards, but a lot more than NS.
My conclusion is M$ smells money at the linux side. A lot of people already use linux. This number will keep growing. Against the time it starts getting competing their end user OS's, they want to make sure they have the Office monopoly.
About media player: M$ is trying to make ASF the standard video compression method for the web, and with realplayer recently ported to linux...
I thing M$ finally used its brains. I am only not certain if they took the right guy's to port it (see IE 4 solaris) If it turns out to be good, M$ benefits. If it turns out to be bad (crashes a lot, buggy), they can blame the other company, and blame linux. MS benefits too.
It seems to me this is a win-win situation for M$.
640K should be enough for everyone - Bill Gates
Did you ever had a Betamax casette in your hands? it was something you could throw outof the window form the fifth floor, pick it up and still play. The casettes were much more solid then the vhs tapes.
Betamax had *MUCH* better image quality over vhs. Now offcourse, after so many years of development, the VHS quality improved a lot, and is now comparable with betamax in the early years...
I have contacts in AMD, and they claim it would be released in september or october if everything goes right... AMD Athlon rules, but I'll wait till they release athlons in socket A (for firebird or thunderbird CPU's).
I don't know how the MPAA is going to win this lawsuit. Look at game cracks - game industry did somewhat the same almost 7 years ago, but against game cracks - they lost it. The program itself is not illegal, it is the usage of it. For all you game cracks go to megagames
When you download the prog, it does not mean you are going to use it. I downloaded it, took a look at the sources, and kept it. I never ran any binary form of the prog(don't have a DVD device:).
Now I just need a DVD drive and I can start copying DVD's:)
If I were you, I'd sell the domain name to them (with profit ofcourse) because: - You WILL lose a lawsuit - The Coca-Cola(tm:) company has a lot of money to spend.
You could make a little money out of this... Never let it come into court - you'll lose, I hate so say it, but it is a fact. I personally think you're right, but the judge...
The milestones of Mozilla I looked at are impressive, but not very stable...
Soon there will be Opera for linux - a browser that is fully compliant with all standards, uses very little memory - they try to make its mem usage below 5M!!! Wish I could say that of Netscape or IE!! Opera isn't opensource, but what do you expect it's a company - it needs to make money. Those people have to live too, they are not going to throw away their company secrets... As long as its stable, there is a good support and I can download patches now and then, I am willing to pay for a browser that doesn't spill my time, CPU power and memory (just my money:^). Whenever I have to surf on windooze, I use Opera - it's fast and easy! - and win crashes less (now just every 5 minutes instead of every 2)
Don't need Mozilla yet - I'll try it now and then, and if it's stable enough - I'll use it.
?? Old school ?? Sorry boy, I'am 19 and use slackware because you have CONTROL. You can do with your system whatever you want. And what big changes are going on? - Graphical install? - Who the hell needs a GUI on a server?? I know - it can be handy (use one myself) - but most of the time Windowmaker ( http://www.windowmaker.org/ ) - not the 64M+ Systems like KDE and Gnome. My dad uses Suse - I hate it - Configuration system changes with every version (if you don't use the extremely limited configuration tools) I am not saying they shouldn't be there, but I tried Suse, RH, and they do too much behind your back. Reminds me a little of a Redmond Co.;) You try to install new version of a lib on Suse - where do I change my path???? - searched half an hour for it and gave up - My dad just had to buy himself the newest version in order to use ICQ (redmond thing???)
Last year (also with CeBit going on) the same rumour was going around - guess what? No M$ Office.
I personally think this is the only good software ever written by M$ (actually only Access in combination with a database server...).
But M$ would make the step for the home user to switch to Linux just a bit too small. I don't think M$ is that stupid. Don't forget, the only thing where Micro$oft is good at is marketing, and those guys can't afford to admit that linux is a big player on the desktop market. When they release an Office for Linux - they would destroy years of marketing and internal planning look at the halloween documents). It just doesn't make sense!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless ofcourse they make it so buggy and unstable that they can claim Linux is an unstable system and use it as a marketing tool...
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This alt-left/right almost requires the usage of both hands which is not very comfortable. I like to surf with one hand on the mouse, and one on the keyboard. In opera - almost everything has a single-key shortcut, which makes this perfectly possible. :)
There are also always the mouse guestures, which now almost every alternative browser has tried to immitate - but none of these implementations can match the comfort of them in Opera - in my opinion that is
5) The "dissappearing data" is done for a reason. When another untrusted app takes control of the OS (by being the top window), it has access to the framebuffer. So it would be simple to start an app, position the window so it doesn't completely obscure the trusted app, then read the framebuffer. Whatever info you want is right there in a bitmap. It would be nice if there were a better way to protect the framebuffer when a trusted app is alive, but it may not be possible in Windows. So far the multitasking/multithreading on a windows desktop system? Back to the 80's?
I agree with all of your points - I found the following quote especially interesting:
Mozilla is a browser designed by developers to be used by themselves, while Opera has been designed the end user in mind.
If you start thinking of this - it's really that way... There is no commercial force that drives the user interface - only developers that want to integrate nifty technological features that are not always that handy in the end - or try to implement features with other "features" just because it's possible - not because it's the best way to do it (look at mouse guesture implementations in moz). I also think that at this moment Moz gives a way too high priority to the looks - and not to the "feels" of the user interface.. it all looks nice - but it's static - and the user interface itself is only customizable in a very limited way...
Nice flame... *sigh*
;) :p) And when recompiling mozilla - I can't stop wondering what that huge amount of code does - when gecko can be - and is so fast (see galeon) - and mozilla is plain slow.
:( ) - or save window setups...
I tried all the guesture plugins mozilla/mozilla based browsers have - but none of these work well.. Actually - the one you pointed out cause my mozilla to show up a completely blank window - nothing on it - guess the XUL interface choked on it... And since I couldn't find how to install such a plugin in an easy way as a normal user - I installed it as root on my gentoo system - bad Idea - it modified the global settings - so for every user - mozilla was suddenly useless... Oh yeah - phoenix choked on it too... Galeon wasn't affected - but the mouse guesture plugin doesn't work for it anyway... had to re-emerge the whole mozilla bloat-thing to get rid of it (in an easy way
I still favor Opera for a lot of other things, like the multi-window interface - not the "fake" and uncomfortable in use "tabbed window" interface... You can't even customize the position of the tabs (top/bottom/left/right), let alone reorganize or drag and drop (only in Opera 7 however - not yet there for linux
Until now - opera seems to me as the most innovative browser around - in every version - new and handy (little) features show up... In mozilla - maybe it's just me - I can't detect such innovations. The only innovation in mozilla is the gecko engine - I consider the bloatware XUL user interface as a (very very very) bad thing (thats why I use galeon from time to time - but it lacks a good user interface).
If you would ask me - what innovations are you talking about? - well there are some very nice things here:
- page zooming
- back-forward using mouse only without even moving the mouse (as already pointed out)
- Quick menu to enable/disable/control popups, proxy's, java, javascript, plugins, cookies, referrer logging and browser identification
- inline find
- hotkeys for everything... keyboard-only browsing is not only perfectly possible - it's even quiet comfortable..
- crash recovery (no program is perfect - opera also crashes now and then) - continue exactly where you were before...
- Linked background windows
- Easy to reach page reload timer
- Powerfull file transfer manager
- quick search with any search engine using the adress bar
For any of these features - you need more than 2 mouseclicks - I didn't had to look into menu's or preferences to find them - they are all right here on my screen, being used - or easy to reach thru right-click-menus... That's what I like about opera - and no other browser even comes near to what opera has to offer on UI level. Open source is nice - I like it - but out there are companies that also have to earn money and deserve it - Opera is one of these where I gladly give money for to have this comfort. Opensource will catch up - but when it does - the opensource community will 'bring/keep their own standards' (on ui-level at least - like it already tried a lot) while other ways can be way more handy - so users that are used to the Opera interface will have difficulties to switch - and rather stay with opera (and maybe pay for it - or look at banners) than to switch to a simular but 'incompatible' user interface, or Opera will maybe have a whole load of new handy small features... Don't be mistaken - a user interface is something very complicated - details are everything - and with opera - almost all the details are there...
PS: Guys like you piss me off... calling peepz you ignorant clod while it could very well be applied to themselfs... You clearly never used opera - so you don't know what you are talking about... - you should really try it - you could learn something from it - and maybe even bring it to an opensource project...
Here in Belgium it's the same - the largest lan-party here was 1600 people... And that for a small country with 10 milj inhabitants... I was really suprised when I read that..
Hmmm by the way - according to the official site - it would be canada's largest lanparty...
What:
Canada's Largest Gaming Event / LAN Party
Well - I don't know - but in a desktop environment I think you have your hand on the mouse quiet a lot. In a browser - nothing above a mouse (WITH scrollwheel) and the "holdright-clickleft" and "holdleft-clickright" mousebutton combinations in opera. That is way faster than the guestures - and most of the functionality in opera is available much faster thru keyboard shortcuts. When I started using opera - I loved the concept and used it a lot, but now - except for the mouse button combo's - I don't use mouseguestures anymore - I lost too much time when I missed one.
:)
In a browsing environment (i'm still talking about opera) - most of the times when you "need" a functionality available thru mouse guesture or keyboard shortcut - the next thing you will need is the keyboard anyway (wtf is the point of opening a new empty window with your mouse??) And I still have 2 hands available - like most people I hope - left hand for keyboard-shortcuts - right hand for mouse clicking, scrolling, back/forward mouse button combo's.
In a desktop environment - I really don't see the point of using these guestures - you'll have to change the direction of your mouse multiple times - and the only thing you _would_ use it for is frequently used applications, you simply wont remember guestures for an application that you use once a month o. The frequently used apps - I put in a taskbar - which are available with one mousemove - and one click, and often I even assign them a shortcut, much faster than drawing a picture on-screen
I see a lot of people discussing about user-friendlyness, and discussing hardware, but isn't the real issue piracy? I estimate that about 50% of the games played at home on a pc are illegal copies - why? Because it's easy on pc. Here in europe - I can get an illegal copy of almost all games weeks or months before they are available in stores...
What do you do then? Right - most of you would go for the copied version and decide to buy the game later.. (that's what I usually do when I like the game)
It really isn't that hard to get - for kids at school - there's always a boy with "connections" that can deliver you a nice cd - or collegues at work - or maybe you have some connections yourself...
Now there are different things that can happen when you start playing a game and it becomes available in stores afterwards
1 - you saw enough of the game - it bores you at the time it's available in stores
2 - it's single player only - finisched it already - no need to buy the game
3 - You tested the game, and it wasn't what you expected it to be - basicly it sucks
4 - it's a game you like to play now and then - but certainly not worth what they are asking in the shops
5 - you like the game - you play it a lot - decide to buy it
6 - you need a cdkey to play online so you buy it.
Owkay - now that's it I think... So games are bought because:
- They have a large community around it - people feel themselfs obligated to buy the game (then the game needs to be really good)
- You need a cdkey to play online and that's what you want
- You can't get any illegal copies
Piracy on pc's for home usage has become very widespread, at least as far as I can see, that's it. For consoles - it is much harder to get illegal copies. For XBox and PS2 - you need a modchip. On PS2 - this is relatively simple compared to what there has to be done on an XBox - but still - hardware has to be modified - BIG step - void the warranty. Then you need a copy of a game - both PS2 and XBox are DVD - most of them don't even know that it's possible to copy a PS2/Xbox game - and I havn't seen any copies of Gamecube games around (since they need a special smaller format of DVD's - I think this will be almost impossible)
Also, basicly - what you want when you buy a console is - off course - to play games. So what do you do? You buy them
Another aspect here is that kids console games as a present for christmas/b'day/... while for a PC - this is usually not the case. The kids may see it as a "game machine" - but the parents and family usually see it more as an "educational" tool. Not something to play games on. Much less PC games are given as presents than console games - kids need to buy them theirselfs - and what do they do when they can get it for free? Certainly not spend their money on it - that can be used for other purposes - and kids in this time may have more money than ever before - this is still not that much that they suddenly can miss $50 or the equivalent.
Well then how do you get credit for the work you do, when all that's noticed is the downtime?
;-)
You guys could still learn smth from BOFH
Well - I am a currently doing embedded work in Java and I can't say he's entirely wrong. When you are working on embedded 68k of 386 (did both) with a small memory footprint (2 to 8mb for code+data+disk) you really know what makes java slow. The entire stream concept is very powerfull, but also very slow, and since amost all IO is done thru streaming, this has severe performance impacts. On these platforms there is also the issue that creating a new object certainly takes some time (however, on modern machines, this is not notable or even faster than not creating a new instance).
Java as a language is very nice, but the runtime is the problem (and standard java-requirements) Indeed JIT's make it faster, but don't believe or assume that it will speed up your app that much...
We made a Java->C "compiler" because a certain platform simply couldn't run java - so I think I know java a bit - garbage collection is hell. And since most Java application servers use "shared heap" you have lots of overhead when the garbage collector kicks in.
On the other hand, a lot of folks here seems to underestimate the power, flexibility and speed of PHP. I also know the language pritty well, and PHP simply doesn't need such a "bloatware" runtime as java does. There also exist optimizer plugins for PHP (actually Yahoo is using one if you read the article/presentation) and you would be amazed what speed you could archieve with those. PHP also has a garbage collector, but since every page has it's own non-shared memory - the garbage collector doesn't have to be that complicated or accurate as the java-one because the memory will be regarded as "empty" on the next page request, no action has to be taken in runtime other than reference counting and auto-cleaning of objects with 0 references, and doing a bit more efford when it is really needed (but then your script is probably bugged or badly written) With the java-memory model - this is somewhat more complicated (and resource intensive).
And last but not least - performance is very dependand on the writing style of the coder. Due to the nature of my job - I really pay attention to what I do and don't (as well in java as in any other language), and when I look into the (java) code of some guys from the web-department - it sometimes horrifies me. They assume memory and resources are there - and they shouldn't take care of that. Nothing is less true...
I would ask: ;-)
How is your current sex life?? - plz don't aswer with "none of your business" or something like that
May I say that valve announced this patch for a very long time, and that all the info about the patch was available for a long time to (mod) developers before the patch was released to the public...
I think this is the Action developers fault, Counterstrike (my favorite) worked at that time with 1.1.0.0, if you remember?
Actually the quake 2 engine... The game was started with the q1 engine, but during the developement, q2 came out, and they switched to the newer engine.
Right now, KDE is mostly used in europe and asia(japan). In the US, gnome is more popular than KDE, simply because Redhat is one of the few distributions who install Gnome as default, and it is the most used distribution in the states. But the US isn't the entire world you know...
I live in Belgium, and I am a member of tina, a local Linux and other alternative OS's users group
I can tell you KDE is far more used than Gnome. The few who have Redhad installed, run Gnome, most of the rest just tried it, but stayed with KDE. I switch windomanagers a lot, I tried Gnome, but found it sometimes confising (and at that time unstable). I just couldn't get a more recent verion of gnome working on my slackware, so I stick with KDE. I just hope it is really much faster and more memory efficient than 1.x, now most applications don't use corba anymore, because that was KDE's weak spot, and that's why I still run windowmaker a lot.
GOOD WORK KDE TEAM, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
I thougt I read at tomshardware (can't find it back) that AMD will allow overclocking on their future processors, but at startup, a line like
"Athlon T-Bird 800 running at 950Mhz"
This seems a very effective way to prevent large scale corruption, and let the hobbyist perfectly overclock it's own processor.
I just got myself an atholon t-bird 800, and overclocked it successfully to 1Ghz. (see www.tomshardware.com how to overclock a socket A processor)
The Facts: - M$ already ported Media player (1.5 year ago, but didn't release any codecs), sorry, all links dissapeared +-1 year ago from their website - M$'s port of IE for solaris sucked big time, done with help of the same company... - M$'s main money comes from the office products My conclusions: - M$ is already being split internally. (legal issues),and someone at M$ who likes Linux and got at the top during that process - M$ is porting their "better" apps to linux. IE5 is not bad at all, Office runs kinda stable on my win98se (that's the only thing that runs stable ;-)
- Staroffice is slow, wp pritty buggy, and both can't handle M$ file formats like they should. -> A lot of people will jump to M$ Office for linux (if not as buggy as IE for Solaris)
- Netscape doesn't support all current standards, and Opera is still beta, and has a lot of problems with java script. IE doesn't support all standards, but a lot more than NS.
My conclusion is M$ smells money at the linux side. A lot of people already use linux. This number will keep growing. Against the time it starts getting competing their end user OS's, they want to make sure they have the Office monopoly.
About media player: M$ is trying to make ASF the standard video compression method for the web, and with realplayer recently ported to linux...
I thing M$ finally used its brains. I am only not certain if they took the right guy's to port it (see IE 4 solaris) If it turns out to be good, M$ benefits. If it turns out to be bad (crashes a lot, buggy), they can blame the other company, and blame linux. MS benefits too.
It seems to me this is a win-win situation for M$.
640K should be enough for everyone - Bill Gates
cool easter egg in Xfree: press ctrl-alt-backspace
:))
Did you ever had a Betamax casette in your hands?
it was something you could throw outof the window
form the fifth floor, pick it up and still play.
The casettes were much more solid then the vhs tapes.
Betamax had *MUCH* better image quality over vhs.
Now offcourse, after so many years of development, the VHS quality improved a lot, and is now comparable with betamax in the early years...
I have contacts in AMD, and they claim it would be released in september or october if everything goes right... AMD Athlon rules, but I'll wait till they release athlons in socket A (for firebird or thunderbird CPU's).
I don't know how the MPAA is going to win this lawsuit. Look at game cracks - game industry did somewhat the same almost 7 years ago, but against game cracks - they lost it. The program itself is not illegal, it is the usage of it.
:)
For all you game cracks go to megagames
When you download the prog, it does not mean you are going to use it. I downloaded it, took a look at the sources, and kept it. I never ran any binary form of the prog(don't have a DVD device:).
Now I just need a DVD drive and I can start copying DVD's
If I were you, I'd sell the domain name to them (with profit ofcourse) because:
- You WILL lose a lawsuit
- The Coca-Cola(tm:) company has a lot of money to spend.
You could make a little money out of this...
Never let it come into court - you'll lose, I hate so say it, but it is a fact. I personally think you're right, but the judge...
The milestones of Mozilla I looked at are impressive, but not very stable...
:^).
Soon there will be Opera for linux - a browser that is fully compliant with all standards, uses very little memory - they try to make its mem usage below 5M!!!
Wish I could say that of Netscape or IE!!
Opera isn't opensource, but what do you expect it's a company - it needs to make money. Those people have to live too, they are not going to throw away their company secrets...
As long as its stable, there is a good support and I can download patches now and then, I am willing to pay for a browser that doesn't spill my time, CPU power and memory (just my money
Whenever I have to surf on windooze, I use Opera - it's fast and easy! - and win crashes less (now just every 5 minutes instead of every 2)
Don't need Mozilla yet - I'll try it now and then, and if it's stable enough - I'll use it.
?? Old school ?? ;) You try to install new version of a lib on Suse - where do I change my path???? - searched half an hour for it and gave up - My dad just had to buy himself the newest version in order to use ICQ (redmond thing???)
:P )
Sorry boy, I'am 19 and use slackware because you have CONTROL. You can do with your system whatever you want.
And what big changes are going on? - Graphical install? - Who the hell needs a GUI on a server??
I know - it can be handy (use one myself) - but most of the time Windowmaker ( http://www.windowmaker.org/ ) - not the 64M+ Systems like KDE and Gnome.
My dad uses Suse - I hate it - Configuration system changes with every version (if you don't use the extremely limited configuration tools) I am not saying they shouldn't be there, but I tried Suse, RH, and they do too much behind your back. Reminds me a little of a Redmond Co.
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Last year (also with CeBit going on) the same rumour was going around - guess what? No M$ Office.
I personally think this is the only good software ever written by M$ (actually only Access in combination with a database server...).
But M$ would make the step for the home user to switch to Linux just a bit too small. I don't think M$ is that stupid.
Don't forget, the only thing where Micro$oft is good at is marketing, and those guys can't afford to admit that linux is a big player on the desktop market.
When they release an Office for Linux - they would destroy years of marketing and internal planning look at the halloween documents).
It just doesn't make sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless ofcourse they make it so buggy and unstable that they can claim Linux is an unstable system and use it as a marketing tool...
In a World without fences - who needs Gates??