unless you have a degree in human behaviour then you really can't start trying to say game X made Person Y violent because of effect Z on day T for reason R.
I did make that quote to help separate my other statement. However, I do see the argument as 1 sided. i'm not saying you have to, or my boss has to or my friend, I see it that way. I'm just stating my opinion which is all slashdot is. I'm not defending it past what I've already typed in that last posts. I understand where your coming from, I do, however I don't think you can start relating the video game argument to other areas. It only got started because people who can't control themselves wanted a way out and it worked. Bottom line is your responsible for yourself, if you do something wrong, you did something wrong and it doesn't matter if someone behind you kept whispering in your ear or not.
I do not have any training in human behaviour, I have no expertise in this situation and I have nothing to go off but what I think, doesn't make me wrong, just means my point might be different.
My argument isn't bad at all, a person is violent because they want to be. To blame the fact that games influence people to become violent doesn't make sense. It's a black or white issue, you either do or don't. To your point, if you smoke you will at some point get cancer if you keep smoking. It might take 1x10^57 years but at some point you'll get cancer. Please don't rip me a new one for that, the reason I point that out is that all I'm saying is that you need to look at black and white conditions.
I know a human wont live to much older then a 100 in some rare cases 120. But if it were possible then in X years a smoker will get cancer, unless you have a degree in human behaviour then you really can't start trying to say game X made Person Y violent because of effect Z on day T for reason R.
The parents and students who like to rant about games making kids violent don't have the underlying skills and years of serious training to draw that conclusion. They should look at it like I stated which for a 1st state model is fine.
It's never been about the game. This is the worlds most ridiculous argument. If a violent game called game X causes Mr. Y to go out and Kill then to blame the game EVERY SINGLE PERSON who played X should be killing. Mr Y kill because he wanted to, on one level or another he had the desire to kill and it's not the game fault. Do you think the top 10 all star killers of the last 1000 years played video games and that's why they killed?
No, they killed because they wanted to. When someone can tell me Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer only killed because the Atari made him then I'll side with video games make kids violent. The truth is people who kill or steal or rob always wanted to. There just using the video game as an excuse and getting away with it.
It would be like someone playing pacman and telling me that it made them eat all the dots they saw around them. I would just call them a dot eater.
My favourite all time game is commander keen, it's fun, it's awesome and it's graphics really push my Xfire 5830 setup. I never complain about games, if you buy a game then play it, beat it and be done with it.
It sells, I wont say no to that. I'll easily come out and say that a flashy GUI will sell. I just wish I would hear about about the back end of the systems and then once there supported I get to hear about the new GUI, but it seems like we get the GUI thrown in our face and once "we" buy the products we find the back end sucks. I would like to for windows to get a real and solid terminal, but that will never happen lol
So far I'm seeing that Windows 8 is going to have a lot of features that Linux has had for years. As a simple break down:
Portable Workspaces: You have always been able to move your workspace in Linux, using tar, gnuzip, bzip etc....
WinFS: A SQL based file system, http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127055
Internet Explorer 10: Still going with there broken old browser, have yet to see IE actually work as well as Firefox or Chrome
Download Filter: Download Filter, How about securing the system first
Guest Mode: Linux has had this for years, as well as a no-buddy user
ISO Mounting: Linux has had the BEST mounting support of any file system hands down.
PDF Support: Linux has had this for years, gnome has had it, KDE has had it
Modern Windows Task Manager: We like to call this TOP, but I guess Microsoft will just rename it
The rest of the features just seem to be interface updates for graphics, it's really not needed,. So Windows 8 is looking like Windows 7 with updates that Linux users enjoy and updating the GUI. The only big problem is that lack of file system support, lets see Ext3 / Ext2 etc.... Can't wait to see the rest of the new features Windows is going to have.
Windows 7 actually has an INSANELY long boot time, even on SSD. It takes at least 2 minutes for my Windows 7 install to boot until the login screen and thats means nothing because you actually have to wait for the desktop to load which takes just as long. Right now on my computer Linux boots in about 4 seconds and thats from button pressed to desktop ready.
If he collected a 1/10000th of a cent for each hour of web time, he would be so rich he would single handedly be able to buy every country in the world and become the one true world leader, of course that might not be a bad thing, I'm sure he would still do a much better job then W did at running for lack of a better term anything.
As silly as this might sound, take them to court. The GPL and MIT licenses are just as valid as any proprietary pos that there swapping them for. I don't know exactly how this would work or even if you could do it but if you wrote the software and you did all the work on the software then I'm sure there is a clause somewhere that protects your time investment in your creation.
Or if you still have the software dump it on line and open a bug finding contest for finding exploits into the software. I'm not sure what happens when the license is changed out on a later version, would this effect the early versions as well?
exactly, it's a nice start and thats what it is, but I think if the public saw the senators take the pay cut it might start a more willing attitude to work your way out of debt. Just how info I actually live In Canada
I don't know if I should agree with that or disagree, mainly because it's unreadable and not making a point. You can map anything to anything, I could attempt to map a billion dollars to cookie if I wanted. It's people like you which are the reason that the US is in the biggest shit pile of all time.
Actually what I said was that there acting the same way, I never said they run the same way, they don't. All the US is doing is increasing what they owe, all a college student does is increase what they owe, so my example that I made works perfectly for this. I'm not saying you could call a country and a college student the same thing and compare all the way down, but for a base it's effective.
I'm not going to argue that, what I'm saying is instead of increasing the amount they owe how about find a way to cut expenses to start paying it down. For example a senator could live off 50K a year, which is more then a lot of family's even make. If ever senator took that pay cut how much surplus would there be.
How about instead of increasing the debt limit they A) Stop pissing away money and B) Find a way to MAKE money. Making money doesn't mean in curring more debt. What US the is doing is what most people do in college, they discover credit cards, take out 10 of them, max them out and have to get more credit cards to pay off the one's they've always maxed out. This is EXACTLY what increasing the debt limit is, it's increasing your credit limit or taking out a credit cards because you can't pay them off. At one point stop spending and put money into your bills.
Where was I going with that? Well they can now strike a coin thats worth N dollars, so how is this any better. I'm going to increase my credit limit by N to save me? That is a horrible idea for a consumer let alone a country.
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Right from the dictionary on that one.
unless you have a degree in human behaviour then you really can't start trying to say game X made Person Y violent because of effect Z on day T for reason R.
I did make that quote to help separate my other statement. However, I do see the argument as 1 sided. i'm not saying you have to, or my boss has to or my friend, I see it that way. I'm just stating my opinion which is all slashdot is. I'm not defending it past what I've already typed in that last posts. I understand where your coming from, I do, however I don't think you can start relating the video game argument to other areas. It only got started because people who can't control themselves wanted a way out and it worked. Bottom line is your responsible for yourself, if you do something wrong, you did something wrong and it doesn't matter if someone behind you kept whispering in your ear or not.
I do not have any training in human behaviour, I have no expertise in this situation and I have nothing to go off but what I think, doesn't make me wrong, just means my point might be different.
Oh your in luck, I played a video game today so I'm going to come kill you, thank god.
My argument isn't bad at all, a person is violent because they want to be. To blame the fact that games influence people to become violent doesn't make sense. It's a black or white issue, you either do or don't. To your point, if you smoke you will at some point get cancer if you keep smoking. It might take 1x10^57 years but at some point you'll get cancer. Please don't rip me a new one for that, the reason I point that out is that all I'm saying is that you need to look at black and white conditions.
I know a human wont live to much older then a 100 in some rare cases 120. But if it were possible then in X years a smoker will get cancer, unless you have a degree in human behaviour then you really can't start trying to say game X made Person Y violent because of effect Z on day T for reason R.
The parents and students who like to rant about games making kids violent don't have the underlying skills and years of serious training to draw that conclusion. They should look at it like I stated which for a 1st state model is fine.
It's never been about the game. This is the worlds most ridiculous argument. If a violent game called game X causes Mr. Y to go out and Kill then to blame the game EVERY SINGLE PERSON who played X should be killing. Mr Y kill because he wanted to, on one level or another he had the desire to kill and it's not the game fault. Do you think the top 10 all star killers of the last 1000 years played video games and that's why they killed?
No, they killed because they wanted to. When someone can tell me Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer only killed because the Atari made him then I'll side with video games make kids violent. The truth is people who kill or steal or rob always wanted to. There just using the video game as an excuse and getting away with it.
It would be like someone playing pacman and telling me that it made them eat all the dots they saw around them. I would just call them a dot eater.
When people are being real trolls they should get there ass handed to them, unlike 1/2 the troll mods on this site, this story is about a real troll.
My favourite all time game is commander keen, it's fun, it's awesome and it's graphics really push my Xfire 5830 setup. I never complain about games, if you buy a game then play it, beat it and be done with it.
yes it did :-)
It sells, I wont say no to that. I'll easily come out and say that a flashy GUI will sell. I just wish I would hear about about the back end of the systems and then once there supported I get to hear about the new GUI, but it seems like we get the GUI thrown in our face and once "we" buy the products we find the back end sucks. I would like to for windows to get a real and solid terminal, but that will never happen lol
A lot of geeks said something along the same lines when iPhone, and then iPad, came out.
And that is why I don't own either :-).
So far I'm seeing that Windows 8 is going to have a lot of features that Linux has had for years. As a simple break down:
Portable Workspaces: You have always been able to move your workspace in Linux, using tar, gnuzip, bzip etc....
WinFS: A SQL based file system, http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/127055
Internet Explorer 10: Still going with there broken old browser, have yet to see IE actually work as well as Firefox or Chrome
Download Filter: Download Filter, How about securing the system first
Guest Mode: Linux has had this for years, as well as a no-buddy user
ISO Mounting: Linux has had the BEST mounting support of any file system hands down.
PDF Support: Linux has had this for years, gnome has had it, KDE has had it
Modern Windows Task Manager: We like to call this TOP, but I guess Microsoft will just rename it
The rest of the features just seem to be interface updates for graphics, it's really not needed,. So Windows 8 is looking like Windows 7 with updates that Linux users enjoy and updating the GUI. The only big problem is that lack of file system support, lets see Ext3 / Ext2 etc.... Can't wait to see the rest of the new features Windows is going to have.
Windows 7 actually has an INSANELY long boot time, even on SSD. It takes at least 2 minutes for my Windows 7 install to boot until the login screen and thats means nothing because you actually have to wait for the desktop to load which takes just as long. Right now on my computer Linux boots in about 4 seconds and thats from button pressed to desktop ready.
That would take longer then the entire summer and most likely fall.
If he collected a 1/10000th of a cent for each hour of web time, he would be so rich he would single handedly be able to buy every country in the world and become the one true world leader, of course that might not be a bad thing, I'm sure he would still do a much better job then W did at running for lack of a better term anything.
Now I really don't like PLC's :-). Computers win again!!!!! HAHAHA
This rating scale isn't linear is it.
As silly as this might sound, take them to court. The GPL and MIT licenses are just as valid as any proprietary pos that there swapping them for. I don't know exactly how this would work or even if you could do it but if you wrote the software and you did all the work on the software then I'm sure there is a clause somewhere that protects your time investment in your creation.
Or if you still have the software dump it on line and open a bug finding contest for finding exploits into the software. I'm not sure what happens when the license is changed out on a later version, would this effect the early versions as well?
No your right, unless we can get 1 trillion dollars together right away don't bother. It's pointless, good point. ( rolling eyes )
exactly, it's a nice start and thats what it is, but I think if the public saw the senators take the pay cut it might start a more willing attitude to work your way out of debt. Just how info I actually live In Canada
If I didn't use all my mod points I'd mark you up 1
I don't know if I should agree with that or disagree, mainly because it's unreadable and not making a point. You can map anything to anything, I could attempt to map a billion dollars to cookie if I wanted. It's people like you which are the reason that the US is in the biggest shit pile of all time.
Actually what I said was that there acting the same way, I never said they run the same way, they don't. All the US is doing is increasing what they owe, all a college student does is increase what they owe, so my example that I made works perfectly for this. I'm not saying you could call a country and a college student the same thing and compare all the way down, but for a base it's effective.
I'm not going to argue that, what I'm saying is instead of increasing the amount they owe how about find a way to cut expenses to start paying it down. For example a senator could live off 50K a year, which is more then a lot of family's even make. If ever senator took that pay cut how much surplus would there be.
How about instead of increasing the debt limit they A) Stop pissing away money and B) Find a way to MAKE money. Making money doesn't mean in curring more debt. What US the is doing is what most people do in college, they discover credit cards, take out 10 of them, max them out and have to get more credit cards to pay off the one's they've always maxed out. This is EXACTLY what increasing the debt limit is, it's increasing your credit limit or taking out a credit cards because you can't pay them off. At one point stop spending and put money into your bills.
Where was I going with that? Well they can now strike a coin thats worth N dollars, so how is this any better. I'm going to increase my credit limit by N to save me? That is a horrible idea for a consumer let alone a country.
I think you took this to seriously. lol