Yeah well in the early 1930's the Nazis were being funded from New York and London so as to prevent a communist revolution in Germany. And anti-semitism was rife in Russia,US and Britain. In fact historically Germany was where Jews were treated the best besides in Muslim Turkey. Which is why it was surprising that Nazis arose in Germany. I would have thought the Nazis were much more likely to get power in the US or UK. Also how ironic that the Jews are now fighting the Muslims who had sheltered them for centuries while the Christians were out on their pogroms and now it is the self same Christians who claim to be the defenders of Judaism. Do note also that Christians dont want Jews to live within their countries hence they promoted the idea of Zionism ergadtz all the Jews will leave their countries and go live in the middle of the Muslim heartland thus solving 2 problems- getting the Jews out of their own country and keeping the Muslims busy fighting so they dont come whoop ass in Europe. The tragedy is the Jews are being played like a banjo by the Christian right and they believe the Christians actually have their interests at heart. Also sometimes I wonder given the tactics adopted by Generals from the Holocaust generation in Israel. Are these really guys from the concentration camps or nazi camp guards who took on the identities of the Jews they had murdered in order to escape prosecution. I mean Sharon has all the characteristics of a camp guard. I am sure had he been in the camps he would have been a collaborator helping to keep the weaker jews in line. These collaborator jews are also something else which sticks in my craw. The weak, the sick and the old jews died in disproportionate numbers. Amongst the survivors a disproportionate number were these collaborators who got better rations and treatment and immunity from gas chambers in return for helping to police the ghettos and camps internally. Yet every survivor of the camps is honored equally. If it was up to me I would treat these collaborators at the same level as the nazis but instead these are the guys who became generals of the IDF as they had some military experience (policing the camps)
So ? I dont see native Americans running the American continent so why should native Tibetans run Tibet. Dont worry enough casino jobs will be available for the Tibetans. If the Tibetans are too lazy to run their own country they deserve to be second class citizens. We have been hosting the Dalai Lama in India and all that has done is sour our relationship with the Chinese. The Tibetans dont have the guts to fight back and get their country back so why should other people be bothered?
You mean why fuck with the comfortable life you have now. I am sure people in the Sahara would be most willing to let the US become a desert while the Sahara becomes fertile land. All this global warming talk is just another way of using the planet to justify continuation of your comfortable lifestyle.
1 Most of the interior of America is very lightly populated as people want to live near the sea. Once sea velel rises and Phoenix and Chicago are beachfront land in the mid west will be much better utilized.
2 Siberia and Canada are almost unused land right now as they are too cold. With enough Global warming people can start living there
3 Large no of people lead very inefficient and lazy lives on a number of pacific islands. Once these are below the sea these people will become available for low wage work in our factories.
4 The areas of land submerged by sea should silence the critics that we are not doing anything to replace the oil we are pumping out of the earth. All these submerged plants and animals will become oil.
5 Africa has too many wars but the Sahara is relatiely peacefull. Heat up Africa and increase the Sahara in size and you will have an Australia like continent- first world country. Extra people refer to point 3 .
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Have you considered how refrigeration works? It just transfers heat. It works for yr fridge as it makes yr food colder by makin yr house hotter.( If u ever wondered why the city is hotter than the country this is one of the reasons) And yr AC works by making yr neighbouhood hotter. Now if u do refrigeration on the icepack u will just melt another part of the ice pack with the waste heat. Something more credible would be a process of increasing the albedo of the icepack so more sunlight gets reflected back.
Innovators How to Make Ice Out of Thin Air Cool Heat Transfer By DAREN FONDA
Sep. 12, 2005 When he isn't snowboarding or volunteering for Engineers Without Borders,
Dave Williams spends his days thinking about something most of us take for granted: ice. As he discovered on a volunteer trip to Haiti in 2002, ice can
be a godsend to a poor village, keeping fish fresh on a journey to market or
preserving vaccines. But how do you make it without electricity, without access to coolants like Freon or fuels like propane? Williams, 26, knew that
forcing compressed air through a hole in the middle of a pipe causes hot and cold air to flow from opposite ends, a phenomenon known as the Ranque-Hilsch vortex-tube effect. No one is quite sure how the separation works,
but feed the cold air into a container, he reasoned, and you would have an icemaker and a freezer, which would have zero operating costs and would be environmentally friendly, since it wouldn't require chemicals and the jet of air could be generated via a compressor powered by wind, water, man or animal.
At least that was the idea. Tinkering with heat-transfer equations, Williams tried to determine how much energy it would take to yield a block of ice. "It had been a while since I'd done real math problems. I had to break out the old
textbook," says Williams, a product-development consultant with his own firm,
Dissigno, in San Francisco. After eons of number crunching, he hit on the right formula and built a prototype. It isn't very efficient; his device uses 35 times as much energy as an electric fridge to make 1 kg of ice. But its simplicity could
yield a killer app in Third World villages, where Williams hopes aid groups will
distribute his icemaker as an economic-development tool. He aims to field-test it in Haiti later this year. --By Daren Fonda. Reported by Matt Smith/New York
Hey Dumbass If you live anywhere in the US you benefit from New Orleans. It is the major port for oil to come in and one of the few which can handle big supertankers without the additional cost of transhipping to smaller tankers. This is because of its position at the mouth of the Missisippi delta which also makes it vulnerable. So if you are happy to get cheap gas because of New Orleans you should be happy to pay to protect the city. Protecting New Orleans does a lot more for cheaper gas then bombing Baghdad ever did.
The Chinese are already unaware of boundaries on the map. They proclaimed ignorance of such boundaries when they went into Tibet, East Turkestan, East Kashmir. Soon they will say--" We saw no boundary from space between us and Taiwan so we will just come in. Move along anow !!"
Thats pretty much what the US is doing right now. No jobs for hispanics and blacks? Get them into the Army by promising college tuition and then send them off to Iraq or bases abroad. China might have to start a few wars like the US did in Iraq.
GDP per capita is a usefull comparison when you are trying to measure quality of life but not when you try to measure scientific progress. Granted at current levels Chines might not be able to afford SUVs in every driveway but they can afford to spend on centrally funded programs. As you said there are 4 times many Chinese thus if you want to spend 100 million on a mission every Chines just needs to afford 10 cents but every american needs to afford 40 cents. Larger population is generally an advantage given similar levels of education. Moreover while the Chinese GDP might be 7 trillion on paper everyone knows the Chinese currency is artificially lower by 20% so in real terms it is already larger than the US GDP. Things like space exploration are a kind of national luxury and they are affordable based on the whole GDP and not GDP percapita. After all their is only 1 NASA and 1 CNSA. Even not considering the exchange rates your argument about US remaining ahead falls apart as China is growing faster 9% compared to 4% . According to WB and IMF projections Chinese GDP will overtake US GDP by 2015 and by 2050 GDP per capita too will overtake US GDP. This is assuming no major wars. Given that the US is currently stuck in an expensive war which may drag down growth these points may be reached earlier. Its already becoming obvious that the US is no longer as attractive as before. Just look at the number of foreign students who stay on in the US. Earlier most foreign students would never go back to their countries as the US had the leading industry and the best opportunities but nowadays more and more Chinese and Korean students go back as opportunities at home are equal or better than in the US. So their really is no place for complacency
Pakistans neighbours are India (Dont like pakis coz the Pakis massacred Hindus), Iran (Dont like pakis coz the Pakis massacred Shias), Afghanistan (Dont like pakis coz the Pakis sold out Uncle oSAMa) and Tibet which is too undeveloped to have internet cables(China doesnt want its colonies to get too developed)
So the sea is the main route. they do have backups via satellite but those links cant handle the same amount of load what with half the worlds script kiddies busy sending out viruses from there. I believe the first computer virus came out of Pakistan.
Something very similar happened in France in the Summer of 2002 when over 5000 old people died from the heat when the temp went into upper 30s. Problem is lot of places in France did not have air conditioning as it never gets that hot there. I remember the French government setting up a committee to investigate why so many old people were left alone in the house while their children went off for summer vaction
Well the fact is you as an American consumer cannot afford to not talk to that person as noone in America is going to spend their time on you not at the cheap rate at which you are buying their product. So your choice cheap stuff or talk to foreigners. We all know the way that is going to go. Sure if everyone in America could afford to buy Luxury labels made in America it would be good but its not. So much of the American wealth is concentrated at the top that compared to the gdp most Americans are poor and can only lead a good life by buying foreign produced goods for cheap. The solution you ask? Its the same everytime in history- discontent, war and the poor rise up and kill the rich to get back the money. But for that to happen first the middle class needs to be elimnated which is what is hapening now. Count your blessings now that due to globalization and outsourcing you have at least one more generation of cheap consumption to enjoy before the next revolution occurs
New Delhi. When I was growing up temperatures in the shade would very often be above 45 degrees in the summer and it reached 50 twice that I remember. Moreover these were in hte shade temperatures. Out in the open effective temperatures are 5 degrees higher when you count the loo factor (similar to wind chill but having the opposite effect as the winds blow in from the Thar desert) But seriously even if 40 degrees is normal I still dont understand people who need AC at 28 degrees!!!
I mean I was in Toronto spring of 2002 when the temperature hit 22 peole were out skiing in shorts. The freakish thing was earlier that morning it had been -3 and people were going to work in thick jackets.
Where's my sweater. O wait you havnt been to India where we dont really call it hot till it hits 45 and it wouldnt be summer without at least a week of 50 degrees plus. Wimps!!!
Dude I am a CS Grad student. I have a 20 hr RA for the summer. That is no way going to take up all my time. Also I am too broke to actually travel, go out and do other summery things so I guess I will spend the rest of my time doing my own coding projects. If releasing them later under Open source gets me a shot at some Google moolah so much the better. Google isnt really asking people to give up their summer jobs to code just dont sleep:)
I dont particularly care if a few Bush buddies get rich . Somebody or the other does get rich from every political decision. I also dont disagree with the basic Bush principle that the maintenance of the Iraq embargo was taking up too much time and money with no returns so it was better to go in and get things cleared up once and for all. I even agree with the principle that having a pro US democratic and strong Iraq would be a big stick to keep Saudi in line on the oil issue. Even the fact there is an insurgency is a big plus as that means these crazies are fighting American soldiers(trained to fight) in the streets of Iraq instead of American civilians in the streets of New York. As a diversion and play for strategic oil security the Iraq war cant really be faulted. What really is disgusting is that Bush didnt have the guts to be honest about his purposes and made all that hulaboo about WMD. Also his using a war of choice to really squeeze the American reserves is also a bad decision as it weakens the forces in the long run. But given the hole the US is now economically there really is no other way then getting a few overseas colonies to help out. Just wish Bush would be honest about it. And no I dont think any Democrat would take any different decision. As long as American consumers expect to have an unreasonably high standard of living supported by cheap imports colonies are needed
The basic science is the same. Its more the case that once nuclear scientists are trained the country which trained them is going to use them. If not for nuclear power they will be used for nuclear weapons as weapons development is actually much cheaper and can be hidden more easily than testing nuclear engines in space. This is why it always struck me as funny the US demanding Saddam dismantle his nuclear program. what was he going to do ? Shoot all his nuclear scientists? Given that he had almost 5000 trained nuclear scientists and engineers he could very well dismantle every bit of nuclear infrastrucutre (which he seems to have done) and still rebuild everything given the required money.
Thats true. The conventional bombing raids killed far more and destryed much more property than the Hiroshima and Nagasaki fircrackers(relatively speaking) Also a lot more people died in the Bhopal Gas leak in India from a fertilizer factory than from Chernobyl but people are shit scared of Nuclear plants. I think its a kind of hysteria created by the nuclear powers to scare the non nuclear powers. Frankly I think nuclear weapons are overrated. They are really useless for war as when used they irradiate the territory so you can make no use of the territory. Thats only marginally better than the enemy holding the territory. Wars will continue to be fought with conventional weapons. Only terrorists would ever think of using nukes (Hmm wonder what that says about Truman) Nuclear power is on the other hand the road to freedom from oil dependence as well as the key to space. Take the example of a country like India which imports 70% of its oil. If even 40% which is used in power plants is replaced by nuclear power India would become a developed country instead of a developing one. Witness the French. As most of their electricity is nuclear generated they are not hostage to oil and dont need to get sucked into the middle-east. This gives them the advantage of taking the moral viewpoint on these issues instead of the national security viewpoint. People blame the neocons for starting the Iraq war but given the state of the US economy there really was no other option than to get control of some oil reserves. The same liberals who blast Bush about going to war in Iraq are the one shouting NAMBY when nuclear power is discussed
Let me modify that to troposphere and above propulsion. For Lanch and landing some kind of Ramjet based engine should be fine. That should take care of the worries about an active nuclear reactor bursting open if a crash happens.
Ideally I would like to see a commercial 747 type airliner takeoff on jet engines,accelerate to the upper atmosphere and use the nuclear engines to reach escape velocity.
We could call the 2 different kinds of engine warp and impulse.
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Yeah well in the early 1930's the Nazis were being funded from New York and London so as to prevent a communist revolution in Germany. And anti-semitism was rife in Russia,US and Britain. In fact historically Germany was where Jews were treated the best besides in Muslim Turkey. Which is why it was surprising that Nazis arose in Germany. I would have thought the Nazis were much more likely to get power in the US or UK. Also how ironic that the Jews are now fighting the Muslims who had sheltered them for centuries while the Christians were out on their pogroms and now it is the self same Christians who claim to be the defenders of Judaism. Do note also that Christians dont want Jews to live within their countries hence they promoted the idea of Zionism ergadtz all the Jews will leave their countries and go live in the middle of the Muslim heartland thus solving 2 problems- getting the Jews out of their own country and keeping the Muslims busy fighting so they dont come whoop ass in Europe. The tragedy is the Jews are being played like a banjo by the Christian right and they believe the Christians actually have their interests at heart. Also sometimes I wonder given the tactics adopted by Generals from the Holocaust generation in Israel. Are these really guys from the concentration camps or nazi camp guards who took on the identities of the Jews they had murdered in order to escape prosecution. I mean Sharon has all the characteristics of a camp guard. I am sure had he been in the camps he would have been a collaborator helping to keep the weaker jews in line. These collaborator jews are also something else which sticks in my craw. The weak, the sick and the old jews died in disproportionate numbers. Amongst the survivors a disproportionate number were these collaborators who got better rations and treatment and immunity from gas chambers in return for helping to police the ghettos and camps internally. Yet every survivor of the camps is honored equally. If it was up to me I would treat these collaborators at the same level as the nazis but instead these are the guys who became generals of the IDF as they had some military experience (policing the camps)
So ? I dont see native Americans running the American continent so why should native Tibetans run Tibet. Dont worry enough casino jobs will be available for the Tibetans. If the Tibetans are too lazy to run their own country they deserve to be second class citizens. We have been hosting the Dalai Lama in India and all that has done is sour our relationship with the Chinese. The Tibetans dont have the guts to fight back and get their country back so why should other people be bothered?
Actually I was joking. I was kind of surprised to see serious replies.
Vulc(a)no explosion? Is that something which happens when Mr Spock eats Chili?
You mean why fuck with the comfortable life you have now. I am sure people in the Sahara would be most willing to let the US become a desert while the Sahara becomes fertile land. All this global warming talk is just another way of using the planet to justify continuation of your comfortable lifestyle.
1 Most of the interior of America is very lightly populated as people want to live near the sea. Once sea velel rises and Phoenix and Chicago are beachfront land in the mid west will be much better utilized.
2 Siberia and Canada are almost unused land right now as they are too cold. With enough Global warming people can start living there
3 Large no of people lead very inefficient and lazy lives on a number of pacific islands. Once these are below the sea these people will become available for low wage work in our factories.
4 The areas of land submerged by sea should silence the critics that we are not doing anything to replace the oil we are pumping out of the earth. All these submerged plants and animals will become oil.
5 Africa has too many wars but the Sahara is relatiely peacefull. Heat up Africa and increase the Sahara in size and you will have an Australia like continent- first world country. Extra people refer to point 3 .
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On a non related note real estate valuations in Siberia and Canada are rising to new highs.
Have you considered how refrigeration works? It just transfers heat. It works for yr fridge as it makes yr food colder by makin yr house hotter.( If u ever wondered why the city is hotter than the country this is one of the reasons) And yr AC works by making yr neighbouhood hotter. Now if u do refrigeration on the icepack u will just melt another part of the ice pack with the waste heat. Something more credible would be a process of increasing the albedo of the icepack so more sunlight gets reflected back.
Innovators
How to Make Ice Out of Thin Air
Cool Heat Transfer
By DAREN FONDA
Sep. 12, 2005
When he isn't snowboarding or volunteering for Engineers Without Borders,
Dave Williams spends his days thinking about something most of us take for
granted: ice. As he discovered on a volunteer trip to Haiti in 2002, ice can
be a godsend to a poor village, keeping fish fresh on a journey to market or
preserving vaccines. But how do you make it without electricity, without
access to coolants like Freon or fuels like propane? Williams, 26, knew that
forcing compressed air through a hole in the middle of a pipe causes hot
and cold air to flow from opposite ends, a phenomenon known as the
Ranque-Hilsch vortex-tube effect. No one is quite sure how the separation works,
but feed the cold air into a container, he reasoned, and you would have an
icemaker and a freezer, which would have zero operating costs and would be
environmentally friendly, since it wouldn't require chemicals and the jet
of air could be generated via a compressor powered by wind, water, man or animal.
At least that was the idea. Tinkering with heat-transfer equations, Williams
tried to determine how much energy it would take to yield a block of ice. "It
had been a while since I'd done real math problems. I had to break out the old
textbook," says Williams, a product-development consultant with his own firm,
Dissigno, in San Francisco. After eons of number crunching, he hit on the right
formula and built a prototype. It isn't very efficient; his device uses 35 times
as much energy as an electric fridge to make 1 kg of ice. But its simplicity could
yield a killer app in Third World villages, where Williams hopes aid groups will
distribute his icemaker as an economic-development tool. He aims to field-test it
in Haiti later this year. --By Daren Fonda. Reported by Matt Smith/New York
Hey Dumbass
If you live anywhere in the US you benefit from New Orleans. It is the major port for oil to come in and one of the few which can handle big supertankers without the additional cost of transhipping to smaller tankers. This is because of its position at the mouth of the Missisippi delta which also makes it vulnerable. So if you are happy to get cheap gas because of New Orleans you should be happy to pay to protect the city. Protecting New Orleans does a lot more for cheaper gas then bombing Baghdad ever did.
The Chinese are already unaware of boundaries on the map. They proclaimed ignorance of such boundaries when they went into Tibet, East Turkestan, East Kashmir. Soon they will say--" We saw no boundary from space between us and Taiwan so we will just come in. Move along anow !!"
Thats pretty much what the US is doing right now. No jobs for hispanics and blacks? Get them into the Army by promising college tuition and then send them off to Iraq or bases abroad. China might have to start a few wars like the US did in Iraq.
GDP per capita is a usefull comparison when you are trying to measure quality of life but not when you try to measure scientific progress. Granted at current levels Chines might not be able to afford SUVs in every driveway but they can afford to spend on centrally funded programs. As you said there are 4 times many Chinese thus if you want to spend 100 million on a mission every Chines just needs to afford 10 cents but every american needs to afford 40 cents. Larger population is generally an advantage given similar levels of education. Moreover while the Chinese GDP might be 7 trillion on paper everyone knows the Chinese currency is artificially lower by 20% so in real terms it is already larger than the US GDP. Things like space exploration are a kind of national luxury and they are affordable based on the whole GDP and not GDP percapita. After all their is only 1 NASA and 1 CNSA. Even not considering the exchange rates your argument about US remaining ahead falls apart as China is growing faster 9% compared to 4% . According to WB and IMF projections Chinese GDP will overtake US GDP by 2015 and by 2050 GDP per capita too will overtake US GDP. This is assuming no major wars. Given that the US is currently stuck in an expensive war which may drag down growth these points may be reached earlier. Its already becoming obvious that the US is no longer as attractive as before. Just look at the number of foreign students who stay on in the US. Earlier most foreign students would never go back to their countries as the US had the leading industry and the best opportunities but nowadays more and more Chinese and Korean students go back as opportunities at home are equal or better than in the US. So their really is no place for complacency
mod the parent up. Hilarious!!!
Pakistans neighbours are India (Dont like pakis coz the Pakis massacred Hindus), Iran (Dont like pakis coz the Pakis massacred Shias), Afghanistan (Dont like pakis coz the Pakis sold out Uncle oSAMa) and Tibet which is too undeveloped to have internet cables(China doesnt want its colonies to get too developed)
So the sea is the main route. they do have backups via satellite but those links cant handle the same amount of load what with half the worlds script kiddies busy sending out viruses from there. I believe the first computer virus came out of Pakistan.
Something very similar happened in France in the Summer of 2002 when over 5000 old people died from the heat when the temp went into upper 30s. Problem is lot of places in France did not have air conditioning as it never gets that hot there. I remember the French government setting up a committee to investigate why so many old people were left alone in the house while their children went off for summer vaction
Well the fact is you as an American consumer cannot afford to not talk to that person as noone in America is going to spend their time on you not at the cheap rate at which you are buying their product. So your choice cheap stuff or talk to foreigners. We all know the way that is going to go. Sure if everyone in America could afford to buy Luxury labels made in America it would be good but its not. So much of the American wealth is concentrated at the top that compared to the gdp most Americans are poor and can only lead a good life by buying foreign produced goods for cheap. The solution you ask? Its the same everytime in history- discontent, war and the poor rise up and kill the rich to get back the money. But for that to happen first the middle class needs to be elimnated which is what is hapening now. Count your blessings now that due to globalization and outsourcing you have at least one more generation of cheap consumption to enjoy before the next revolution occurs
New Delhi. When I was growing up temperatures in the shade would very often be above 45 degrees in the summer and it reached 50 twice that I remember. Moreover these were in hte shade temperatures. Out in the open effective temperatures are 5 degrees higher when you count the loo factor (similar to wind chill but having the opposite effect as the winds blow in from the Thar desert)
But seriously even if 40 degrees is normal I still dont understand people who need AC at 28 degrees!!!
I mean I was in Toronto spring of 2002 when the temperature hit 22 peole were out skiing in shorts. The freakish thing was earlier that morning it had been -3 and people were going to work in thick jackets.
Canadian weather is to say the least interesting.
Where's my sweater. O wait you havnt been to India where we dont really call it hot till it hits 45 and it wouldnt be summer without at least a week of 50 degrees plus.
Wimps!!!
Dude I am a CS Grad student. I have a 20 hr RA for the summer. That is no way going to take up all my time. Also I am too broke to actually travel, go out and do other summery things so I guess I will spend the rest of my time doing my own coding projects. If releasing them later under Open source gets me a shot at some Google moolah so much the better. Google isnt really asking people to give up their summer jobs to code just dont sleep :)
I dont particularly care if a few Bush buddies get rich . Somebody or the other does get rich from every political decision. I also dont disagree with the basic Bush principle that the maintenance of the Iraq embargo was taking up too much time and money with no returns so it was better to go in and get things cleared up once and for all. I even agree with the principle that having a pro US democratic and strong Iraq would be a big stick to keep Saudi in line on the oil issue. Even the fact there is an insurgency is a big plus as that means these crazies are fighting American soldiers(trained to fight) in the streets of Iraq instead of American civilians in the streets of New York. As a diversion and play for strategic oil security the Iraq war cant really be faulted. What really is disgusting is that Bush didnt have the guts to be honest about his purposes and made all that hulaboo about WMD. Also his using a war of choice to really squeeze the American reserves is also a bad decision as it weakens the forces in the long run.
But given the hole the US is now economically there really is no other way then getting a few overseas colonies to help out. Just wish Bush would be honest about it.
And no I dont think any Democrat would take any different decision. As long as American consumers expect to have an unreasonably high standard of living supported by cheap imports colonies are needed
The basic science is the same. Its more the case that once nuclear scientists are trained the country which trained them is going to use them. If not for nuclear power they will be used for nuclear weapons as weapons development is actually much cheaper and can be hidden more easily than testing nuclear engines in space. This is why it always struck me as funny the US demanding Saddam dismantle his nuclear program. what was he going to do ? Shoot all his nuclear scientists? Given that he had almost 5000 trained nuclear scientists and engineers he could very well dismantle every bit of nuclear infrastrucutre (which he seems to have done) and still rebuild everything given the required money.
Thats true. The conventional bombing raids killed far more and destryed much more property than the Hiroshima and Nagasaki fircrackers(relatively speaking) Also a lot more people died in the Bhopal Gas leak in India from a fertilizer factory than from Chernobyl but people are shit scared of Nuclear plants. I think its a kind of hysteria created by the nuclear powers to scare the non nuclear powers. Frankly I think nuclear weapons are overrated. They are really useless for war as when used they irradiate the territory so you can make no use of the territory. Thats only marginally better than the enemy holding the territory. Wars will continue to be fought with conventional weapons. Only terrorists would ever think of using nukes (Hmm wonder what that says about Truman)
Nuclear power is on the other hand the road to freedom from oil dependence as well as the key to space. Take the example of a country like India which imports 70% of its oil. If even 40% which is used in power plants is replaced by nuclear power India would become a developed country instead of a developing one. Witness the French. As most of their electricity is nuclear generated they are not hostage to oil and dont need to get sucked into the middle-east. This gives them the advantage of taking the moral viewpoint on these issues instead of the national security viewpoint. People blame the neocons for starting the Iraq war but given the state of the US economy there really was no other option than to get control of some oil reserves. The same liberals who blast Bush about going to war in Iraq are the one shouting NAMBY when nuclear power is discussed
Let me modify that to troposphere and above propulsion. For Lanch and landing some kind of Ramjet based engine should be fine. That should take care of the worries about an active nuclear reactor bursting open if a crash happens.
Ideally I would like to see a commercial 747 type airliner takeoff on jet engines,accelerate to the upper atmosphere and use the nuclear engines to reach escape velocity.
We could call the 2 different kinds of engine warp and impulse.