If you have a cable in my company, and I don't like you...you are hella-fucked. No matter what anyone says. I will come up with a good reason, I will pull your cable, and (if the TOS requires avalibility) I will refund your money with a big apology.
I agree with you 100%... but... when the judge lays down a 5 figure/hour fine for unavaliability and contempt of court charges... you'll probably keep it up.
Essentially, here's the lowdown: PaeTec entered an ISP agreement with Monsterhut. PaeTec was informed that Monsterhut was a marketing service that used opt-in service only.
PaeTec soon found out how wrong they were represented. But, before PaeTec could pull the plug, Monsterhut went out and got a restraining order under the basis that their business would be "irrepreably harmed" if their ISP service was shut off.
Monsterhut judge shopped. Found a judge that would grant their injunction.
The problem in court lied over ambiguous language of what the actual acceptable use policy would be. THe terms read something like complaints by 2% of the mails... but, since MonsterHut claims it sends out millions of mails, there certainly wouldn't be any way that PaeTec could get complaints in that number.
Thankfully, the judge saw through the bullshit in this case.
Time Magazine would be at least twice as expensive if you didn't have to flip through all the got milk like mike! ads to get to that article on page 37.
Then why does Time put in a Table of Contents at the front of each issue? So you don't have to flip the bleedin 37 pages to find what you're looking for!
Why does/. put that fucking space in urls? Is it solely to piss people off?
Because, without it, someone could just put in a 1000 letter long URL. That non-breaking word would cause the page width of/. to expand to horredously large sizes.
It's purpose is to solely prevent other people from pissing many many other people off.
I think if they want to get people's cooperation, then they should refute Operation Clambake's information in an orderly and intelligent manner. attempting to completely strike out an opposing veiwpoint in this manner to me just smacks of censorship and fascism. Two things i'm sure most people are against.
"The purpose of a lawsuit is to harrass and discourage rather than to win"
"Attack! Attack! Attack! Never defend!"
Guess who said those things? L. Ron Hubbard, founder of $cientology.
Actually, an electronic vote takes at least 12 minutes. (Remember, legislators need time to walk around and make deals before they vote.) Dong a roll callvote for *every* vote would be highly inefficient.
And you're right. Since the voice vote can be objected to by any representative, not a single one of them had the balls to stand up when the DMCA was passed.
Click on "Bill Summary & Status File"... then "All Bill Summary & Status Info"
8/4/1998 2:26pm: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by voice vote.
Actually, a voice vote is the "normal method". The voices are cast, the chair takes an opinion (Of course, this opinion need not be based on the voices in the house he hears, though usually the chairperson will.) If there is any objection, an electronic vote is taken (roll call vote).
Watch C-SPAN. It can be interesting. For about 5 minutes.;-)
Believe it or not, something _very_ similar came up on slashdot about a year ago. Basically, a person had a complaint about his local building code. He made a website and posted the building code for his town. Soon after, he got nasty grams from the Southern Building Code Congress International Inc. The bill in question was copyrighted by the group before it was sent to the local legislature, so the wording of the law belongs to them.
Sadly, 2 judges on a 3 judge panel agreed with the SBCC, and I don't know what happened after that.
I get similar results result for the Italian version but not the German results.
Though I must admit I have no idea what "In risposta ad un reclamo ricevuto ai sensi del Digital Millennium Copyright Act, abbiamo rimosso 2 risultato/i dalla pagina. Se si desidera, è possibile leggere il reclamo DMCA che ha portato alla cancellazione dei risultati." means.
That seems reasonable to me--but technologically its not quite there yet.
I beg to differ. The technology is there already. In Western New York, we have a (cable) station called Empire Sports. Empire sports broadcasts regional sports coverage, like the Buffalo Sabres and such. It broadcasts to Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, over satellite, and points in between. It's interesting because I just watch the Sabres games.
Empire is owned by Adelphia Cable. Rochester is served by Time Warner. Adelphia broadcasts over to Time Warner. There is a system that lets Time Warner know that a local commercial coming on so Time Warner's system can add a local ad din it's place. That's why I see ads for Irondequoit Dodge in Rochester, but not ads for Gambino Ford , which is in Buffalo. I'll see ads for Time Warner's Road Runner service, and not Adelphia's Power Link service. (It doesn't always work, sometimes during Sabres games, we'll see an ad for Adelphia or something, but usually it works.)
Of course, the downside is sometimes the system works too well. I've seen the game get cut off here in Rochester with Time Warner throwing in a commercial (for some strange reason.) It's not perfect, but it is working.
no, this should remind you more of the phone book directory billing scam. Unscrupulous companies would send out "Advertise in the yellow pages" or "white pages". What they forgot to tell you wans that they were located in an area no-where near where you were located, and they barely published a directory. (Just a few copies usually, in some barren remote wasteland.)
Wow... even his clue meter is out of whack. It should be registering a straight up 0. Looks like we'll have to calibrate it... I think the judge will handle that.
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Yes, the Scientology Google ranking is well covered here: Operating Thetan
Big thanks to the Beckamn Institute at the University of Illinois for creating the VisIT software for the graphic demonstrations.
As for the third charge -- that copyrighted movies are destroying digital innovation -- what the critics mean by "innovation" is legalizing the breaking of protection codes, without which there is no protection.
No, Mr. Valenti, what we mean when we say "innovation", are things that give the consumer, the end user of your products, the choice of what we want. Surely, as head of the MPAA, you must be aware of your own members outstanding lawsuits against the truly innovative device makers Replay TV and TiVo. Perhaps it is time for you to stop treating your customers like criminals and thieves.
Times are a changin'. Those who choose to go forward will reap the rewards of satisfying consumers needs. Those who choose to drag their heels will fall by the wayside.
No, in fact, quite the opposite. Because it didn't go to court and wasn't judged, it won't be able to be used. It means next to nothing if it will ever be brought up in court.
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If you have a cable in my company, and I don't like you...you are hella-fucked. No matter what anyone says. I will come up with a good reason, I will pull your cable, and (if the TOS requires avalibility) I will refund your money with a big apology.
I agree with you 100%... but... when the judge lays down a 5 figure/hour fine for unavaliability and contempt of court charges... you'll probably keep it up.
Here is the original /. story
Essentially, here's the lowdown: PaeTec entered an ISP agreement with Monsterhut. PaeTec was informed that Monsterhut was a marketing service that used opt-in service only.
PaeTec soon found out how wrong they were represented. But, before PaeTec could pull the plug, Monsterhut went out and got a restraining order under the basis that their business would be "irrepreably harmed" if their ISP service was shut off.
Monsterhut judge shopped. Found a judge that would grant their injunction.
The problem in court lied over ambiguous language of what the actual acceptable use policy would be. THe terms read something like complaints by 2% of the mails... but, since MonsterHut claims it sends out millions of mails, there certainly wouldn't be any way that PaeTec could get complaints in that number.
Thankfully, the judge saw through the bullshit in this case.
Time Magazine would be at least twice as expensive if you didn't have to flip through all the got milk like mike! ads to get to that article on page 37.
Then why does Time put in a Table of Contents at the front of each issue? So you don't have to flip the bleedin 37 pages to find what you're looking for!
Why does /. put that fucking space in urls? Is it solely to piss people off?
/. to expand to horredously large sizes.
Because, without it, someone could just put in a 1000 letter long URL. That non-breaking word would cause the page width of
It's purpose is to solely prevent other people from pissing many many other people off.
California has one, and it's called SLAPP. Here's a good resource on SLAPP
I think if they want to get people's cooperation, then they should refute Operation Clambake's information in an orderly and intelligent manner. attempting to completely strike out an opposing veiwpoint in this manner to me just smacks of censorship and fascism. Two things i'm sure most people are against.
"The purpose of a lawsuit is to harrass and discourage rather than to win"
"Attack! Attack! Attack! Never defend!"
Guess who said those things? L. Ron Hubbard, founder of $cientology.
That's because they're not allowing ads from the anti-$cientology crowd.
See post on alt.religion.scientology
"At this time, we are not running ads for sites that promote hate against another group or business."
Can't buy it.
See post on alt.religion.scientology
Well, you probably could buy it, you just can't set your ad link to xenu.net.
"At this time, we are not running ads for sites that promote hate against another group or business."
Actually, an electronic vote takes at least 12 minutes. (Remember, legislators need time to walk around and make deals before they vote.) Dong a roll callvote for *every* vote would be highly inefficient.
And you're right. Since the voice vote can be objected to by any representative, not a single one of them had the balls to stand up when the DMCA was passed.
Here ya go...
;-)
105th Congress, H.R. 2281
Click on "Bill Summary & Status File"... then "All Bill Summary & Status Info"
8/4/1998 2:26pm:
On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by voice vote.
Actually, a voice vote is the "normal method". The voices are cast, the chair takes an opinion (Of course, this opinion need not be based on the voices in the house he hears, though usually the chairperson will.) If there is any objection, an electronic vote is taken (roll call vote).
Watch C-SPAN. It can be interesting. For about 5 minutes.
Believe it or not, something _very_ similar came up on slashdot about a year ago. Basically, a person had a complaint about his local building code. He made a website and posted the building code for his town. Soon after, he got nasty grams from the Southern Building Code Congress International Inc. The bill in question was copyrighted by the group before it was sent to the local legislature, so the wording of the law belongs to them.
Sadly, 2 judges on a 3 judge panel agreed with the SBCC, and I don't know what happened after that.
David Touretzky can help you in this regard with his page. He's got links to many of the major things.
I get similar results result for the Italian version but not the German results.
Though I must admit I have no idea what "In risposta ad un reclamo ricevuto ai sensi del Digital Millennium Copyright Act, abbiamo rimosso 2 risultato/i dalla pagina. Se si desidera, è possibile leggere il reclamo DMCA che ha portato alla cancellazione dei risultati." means.
For those of you keeping score at home, here's another one for the opposition of CBDTPA (or whatever they're calling it today)
This one from eWeek
enjoy
Then try downloading here:
Pick the one that says: "Download Snood 2.4.5 without Gator & Offer Companion"
Granted, it is buried in a sub page and all... but, thems the breaks.
Point well taken. I hadn't thought about it that way.
That seems reasonable to me--but technologically its not quite there yet.
I beg to differ. The technology is there already. In Western New York, we have a (cable) station called Empire Sports. Empire sports broadcasts regional sports coverage, like the Buffalo Sabres and such. It broadcasts to Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, over satellite, and points in between. It's interesting because I just watch the Sabres games.
Empire is owned by Adelphia Cable. Rochester is served by Time Warner. Adelphia broadcasts over to Time Warner. There is a system that lets Time Warner know that a local commercial coming on so Time Warner's system can add a local ad din it's place. That's why I see ads for Irondequoit Dodge in Rochester, but not ads for Gambino Ford , which is in Buffalo. I'll see ads for Time Warner's Road Runner service, and not Adelphia's Power Link service. (It doesn't always work, sometimes during Sabres games, we'll see an ad for Adelphia or something, but usually it works.)
Of course, the downside is sometimes the system works too well. I've seen the game get cut off here in Rochester with Time Warner throwing in a commercial (for some strange reason.) It's not perfect, but it is working.
no, this should remind you more of the phone book directory billing scam. Unscrupulous companies would send out "Advertise in the yellow pages" or "white pages". What they forgot to tell you wans that they were located in an area no-where near where you were located, and they barely published a directory. (Just a few copies usually, in some barren remote wasteland.)
I think its time that Bush and Co. took a look at home as much as they are abroad.
All things considered, I wish they would look more at everything around them, like umm... you know... things outside of washington...
In this case, it doesn't. It's being used against a company in the United States (Google).
I don't think it's affecting Google in Italy, for example
many couples like to go to the magnetic North Pole to conceive their children
CmdrTaco : Kathleen, we're taking a little vacation!
Kathleen : Where to?
CmdrTaco: The North Pole.
Kathleen: Oooh baby, you're making me hot.
yeah, and his clue meter is pegged at .0001
Wow... even his clue meter is out of whack. It should be registering a straight up 0. Looks like we'll have to calibrate it... I think the judge will handle that.
Yes, the Scientology Google ranking is well covered here: Operating Thetan
Big thanks to the Beckamn Institute at the University of Illinois for creating the VisIT software for the graphic demonstrations.
As for the third charge -- that copyrighted movies are destroying digital innovation -- what the critics mean by "innovation" is legalizing the breaking of protection codes, without which there is no protection.
No, Mr. Valenti, what we mean when we say "innovation", are things that give the consumer, the end user of your products, the choice of what we want. Surely, as head of the MPAA, you must be aware of your own members outstanding lawsuits against the truly innovative device makers Replay TV and TiVo. Perhaps it is time for you to stop treating your customers like criminals and thieves.
Times are a changin'. Those who choose to go forward will reap the rewards of satisfying consumers needs. Those who choose to drag their heels will fall by the wayside.
No, in fact, quite the opposite. Because it didn't go to court and wasn't judged, it won't be able to be used. It means next to nothing if it will ever be brought up in court.