Article makes it sound like they are getting spooked because of monsters or something, but they are really just deciding they don't want to ride with a weirdo.
And the EU wants to impose the right to be forgotten on all sites as well. Pretty scary that if you don't comply with their order to shove an article down the memory hole your entire site could be taken down.
Then you're the exception and not the rule, the sentence was not meant for you, and the only reason you are even responding to it is so you can not-so-subtly brag about how you don't own a TV^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H use linux.
It might be secured against a house or something. The bank and Denton could have negotiated the loan knowing he couldn't repay, but they get a house, and he doesn't have to put it on the market to sell it. I dunno, I'm not a banker.
The reason that politicians cannot admit mistakes is because it is political suicide to do so in front of a finicky public. And the fact that they answer to the public and the public is allowed to discard politicians as they please is where they get their legitimacy. Where do these experts get their legitimacy? How can they convince a public that had no say in how they are selected or do their job to accept hard decisions? The "noble lie", a la Plato's Republic? The Enlightened Despotism of the Renaissance? If you don't trust the public and are unwilling to accept suboptimal decisions, then the rulers here are going to just end up justifying their actions to the public with "because I say so". And if they do answer to the public then you'll just end up with more politicians.
If it cannot in principle be measured or observed (with past, existing or future technology) then it cannot be true.
You seem to have "true" confused with "provable". There are uncountably infinitely many true things that can never be proven with any finite or countably infinite amount of time or evidence (proved via Gödel). There either is a god or there isn't: one of those must be true, even if we never know which.
If economists thought that nuclear war would be good for the economy, they would advocate it. There are things that matter more than GDP (at least in some values systems), and Russia's value system is not any objectively worse than your own.
Nothing wrong with being a plumber. From the replies that I've gotten, I can see that it was taken as an insult. I didn't mean that, but I can see how I fucked up. I was actually trying to disparage the people who think anything they don't want to learn is worthless as being anti-intellectuals. I think they should go to trade school or do anything else that they want to do, because college is not for them. And that would be good too. There are too many college graduates. Quality over quantity.
That's good. College educated does not mean smart (though making mistakes does not mean stupid either). Many are dumbasses, most maybe (probably not though). But I wasn't addressing that. I was criticizing the almost anti-intellectualism that comes with this fad of wanting to change college curriculum because they are super specialized in one specific skill and woefully lacking in others, and feel some sort of superiority from that ignorance. Part of getting a degree is taking a history course. If you don't want to do that, go learn a trade and you won't have to. There's nothing wrong with that. But they should pretend that the stuff that they personally don't want to learn has zero value.
I didn't imply that all. There are plenty of people in the trades that are critical thinking and intelligent. The wisest man I've known was a welder, in fact. My point was that instead of trying to water down a general education, the people who think writing papers is a waste of time should go learn a skill where they won't have to.
Why is that bad? Because they won't get the whole software engineer experience?
Yes.
They probably don't have the needs or capital to justify that
Then take out a loan. And if they can't do that, then how are they going to pay for this new school anyway?
and a lower quality software development will do just fine..
No it won't. You cannot magically get better results by shoving more people at a problem. You'll get a bunch of shitty software that will always break and will cost you more in the long run. Would you buy a disposable car that will completely ruined after three years of constant repairs for a 30% discount? Is your time really so cheap that all the hours of being broke down on the side of the road are worth it?
The interesting problems have not already been solved. May the code monkeys of the world have fun working on yet another inventory and billing system front end AbstractFactoryFactorySingletonFactory class.
That's a good thing. We don't need more useless code monkeys who think making shiny webapps in CSS+JS+HTML is computer science. You don't need calculus to be a programmer, but you'll probably be a shitty programmer if it was too hard for you. Is being a well rounded human being really too much to ask? If you want to learn a trade, be a plumber. Anything having to do with science or math is not served by people who think learning anything is a waste of time.
Side note: this article presupposes that pumping out more developers is a good thing. I'm not convinced it is. Quality over quantity.
Irrelevant. I didn't say that it was always about money, I said that it is independent of the drive for money, and that progress is progress, no matter the reasons for which it was achieved.
people who are that fucking smart are _not_ in it for the money
What a stupid remark. Intelligence is not at all related to motive. Furthermore, what would it matter if they were in it for the money? Is, say, a scientific conclusion wrong when it's was reached with the goal of earning money? I conjecture that you just resent the idea of money and think it evil, and are projecting your belief on the heroes that you worship, expecting them to hold the same ideals as you do.
Because crazy, paranoid people, in my experience, tend to not want to let anyone in on their delusions. Even if you agree with them, they'll call you a CIA\Jewish\Alien plant setting a trap for them. They are arrogant and believe that they are the center of the world, and everyone is out to hurt them.
Besides that, let me rephrase my question: what evidence do you have that this is a common theme in "virtually all" cases? Naming three of the dozens does not establish a trend. Furthermore, claiming that there it just doesn't get reported on doesn't release you from that burden. It just comes off as an old man blaming the ills of the world on that damn Satanic rock-and-roll music.
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Article makes it sound like they are getting spooked because of monsters or something, but they are really just deciding they don't want to ride with a weirdo.
And the EU wants to impose the right to be forgotten on all sites as well. Pretty scary that if you don't comply with their order to shove an article down the memory hole your entire site could be taken down.
Nah, don't reward clickbait. If they want to be taken seriously, treat the reader with respect.
Then you're the exception and not the rule, the sentence was not meant for you, and the only reason you are even responding to it is so you can not-so-subtly brag about how you don't own a TV^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H use linux.
Do you feel the same about the Fappening?
It might be secured against a house or something. The bank and Denton could have negotiated the loan knowing he couldn't repay, but they get a house, and he doesn't have to put it on the market to sell it. I dunno, I'm not a banker.
It's in the front page title though.
The reason that politicians cannot admit mistakes is because it is political suicide to do so in front of a finicky public. And the fact that they answer to the public and the public is allowed to discard politicians as they please is where they get their legitimacy. Where do these experts get their legitimacy? How can they convince a public that had no say in how they are selected or do their job to accept hard decisions? The "noble lie", a la Plato's Republic? The Enlightened Despotism of the Renaissance? If you don't trust the public and are unwilling to accept suboptimal decisions, then the rulers here are going to just end up justifying their actions to the public with "because I say so". And if they do answer to the public then you'll just end up with more politicians.
If it cannot in principle be measured or observed (with past, existing or future technology) then it cannot be true.
You seem to have "true" confused with "provable". There are uncountably infinitely many true things that can never be proven with any finite or countably infinite amount of time or evidence (proved via Gödel). There either is a god or there isn't: one of those must be true, even if we never know which.
Jeb spent $130M and all it got him was some pocket turtles.
If economists thought that nuclear war would be good for the economy, they would advocate it. There are things that matter more than GDP (at least in some values systems), and Russia's value system is not any objectively worse than your own.
They probably took a look at the data and saw that only five (or whatever) percent of users used more than that.
"You seriously think you're smarter than us, you uppity little shit? Fuck you, eat my snark. SNARK SNARK SNARK"
Yeah, he's complaining that she's pointing out the truth.
Nothing wrong with being a plumber. From the replies that I've gotten, I can see that it was taken as an insult. I didn't mean that, but I can see how I fucked up. I was actually trying to disparage the people who think anything they don't want to learn is worthless as being anti-intellectuals. I think they should go to trade school or do anything else that they want to do, because college is not for them. And that would be good too. There are too many college graduates. Quality over quantity.
That's good. College educated does not mean smart (though making mistakes does not mean stupid either). Many are dumbasses, most maybe (probably not though). But I wasn't addressing that. I was criticizing the almost anti-intellectualism that comes with this fad of wanting to change college curriculum because they are super specialized in one specific skill and woefully lacking in others, and feel some sort of superiority from that ignorance. Part of getting a degree is taking a history course. If you don't want to do that, go learn a trade and you won't have to. There's nothing wrong with that. But they should pretend that the stuff that they personally don't want to learn has zero value.
I didn't imply that all. There are plenty of people in the trades that are critical thinking and intelligent. The wisest man I've known was a welder, in fact. My point was that instead of trying to water down a general education, the people who think writing papers is a waste of time should go learn a skill where they won't have to.
It's pretty fucking clear you are. All those downmods you got for your NSA shilling got you pissy?
Why is that bad? Because they won't get the whole software engineer experience?
Yes.
They probably don't have the needs or capital to justify that
Then take out a loan. And if they can't do that, then how are they going to pay for this new school anyway?
and a lower quality software development will do just fine..
No it won't. You cannot magically get better results by shoving more people at a problem. You'll get a bunch of shitty software that will always break and will cost you more in the long run. Would you buy a disposable car that will completely ruined after three years of constant repairs for a 30% discount? Is your time really so cheap that all the hours of being broke down on the side of the road are worth it?
The interesting problems have not already been solved. May the code monkeys of the world have fun working on yet another inventory and billing system front end AbstractFactoryFactorySingletonFactory class.
That's a good thing. We don't need more useless code monkeys who think making shiny webapps in CSS+JS+HTML is computer science. You don't need calculus to be a programmer, but you'll probably be a shitty programmer if it was too hard for you. Is being a well rounded human being really too much to ask? If you want to learn a trade, be a plumber. Anything having to do with science or math is not served by people who think learning anything is a waste of time.
Side note: this article presupposes that pumping out more developers is a good thing. I'm not convinced it is. Quality over quantity.
Irrelevant. I didn't say that it was always about money, I said that it is independent of the drive for money, and that progress is progress, no matter the reasons for which it was achieved.
people who are that fucking smart are _not_ in it for the money
What a stupid remark. Intelligence is not at all related to motive. Furthermore, what would it matter if they were in it for the money? Is, say, a scientific conclusion wrong when it's was reached with the goal of earning money? I conjecture that you just resent the idea of money and think it evil, and are projecting your belief on the heroes that you worship, expecting them to hold the same ideals as you do.
And if they get rich by providing people with things or services that they want? I suppose that's just supposed to be bad on the face of it.
One is to be respectful and polite, the old way.
So, the bums playing shitty music on the sidewalk, begging for handouts is what people should aspire to?
Because crazy, paranoid people, in my experience, tend to not want to let anyone in on their delusions. Even if you agree with them, they'll call you a CIA\Jewish\Alien plant setting a trap for them. They are arrogant and believe that they are the center of the world, and everyone is out to hurt them.
Besides that, let me rephrase my question: what evidence do you have that this is a common theme in "virtually all" cases? Naming three of the dozens does not establish a trend. Furthermore, claiming that there it just doesn't get reported on doesn't release you from that burden. It just comes off as an old man blaming the ills of the world on that damn Satanic rock-and-roll music.