Mostly because different applications were emphasized by the needs of the individual companies liscencing it. SGI Empahized engineering simulation and graphic design and later on server applications, Sun emphasized server and database applications and IBM emphasized mainframe operations and engineering applications. Companies centralized different forms suited to their own needs and those of their customers based on the development of their specific hardware. The hardware was the thing back in the early 1980's rather than the OS, it was mostly about selling their own products with the development of the OS being somewhat secondary to the hardware. Unix was already well establishedas an OS by 1980.
Unix at the time back in the late 80's and all through the 90's was better suited to this level of customization than DOS or anything else. It had already garnered the majority of its market share in research institutions and universities by the time NT came into the market. NT is just an imitation of Unix based on BASIC rather than C. The two operate very similarly but unix is much more robust and securable even to this day.
UNIX is still going strong, but linux, being open source is gaining against this because everyone can access the source code and customize it to their own specific needs, putting their own empahisis on their own particular applications.
You can do anything with Unix and Linux, moreso than NT. Most market share for any operating system can be attributed to timing in the market and luck, AT&T and IBM had already established Unix as the main OS in their own systems and had that market share already established when M$ started as a company. AT&T really did most of the initial development work and handed it over to the universities because at the time they weren't allowed to enter the computer market by law.
Good for this current bill. Let's bring back Free Speech to the citizenry.
Need I remind you that Corporations were completely forbidden from all participation in US Political campaigns untill 1886: In Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company [118 U.S. 394]. They were regulated by the States and subject to all STATE regulations, taxes and fees etc. Seems to me that removing Corporate personhood is a CONSERVATIVE concept, rather than a liberal one. But it is the Liberals that are pointing this out.
Go goosestep somewhere else. When you allow unlimited contributions to political campagns, you are allowing bribery. You are allowing the wealthiest individuals to control government, people that would love to outlaw labor unions, enviromental regulations, workplace safety regulations and child labor laws. The latter having already been proposed by Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush jr.
Coporations should be forbidden from ALL political influence.
"The first truth is that liberty is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than that of their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism."
However, historically it was the Detroit auto industry which did sabotage many light-rail and metro systems throughout the US, in cities which were growing in the early 20th century, such as Atlanta and Los Angeles. How did they do it?
By donating buses whenever a municipality began planning rail, and thus encouraging those cities to pave more roads (and create a market for cars.)
They also flat out BRIBED city council members to do this. They infiltrated planning commissions and spent hundreds of thousands of Dollars on propaganda against building such systems all over the country.
Seattle had a wonderful, well managed mass transit system. It was called the Interurban railway. It covered everything from Puyallup and Tacoma to Seattle, the surrounding environs and even went up to Everett. You could hop a train for a dime in West Seattle, and be in Bothell in an hour and a half. It ran well for 25 years or so, then the Automobile manufacturers had several well-financed auto company freindly people elected to the City Council here in Seattle. That Council, along with the Mayor, suddenly decided that the system should be privatized after the market Crash in 1929. The purchaser? General Motors. They promptly stopped maintaining the track, the cars and the whole system altogether. It was shut down within three years after that sale.
This is not tinfoil hat stuff as you Nazis like to say, it was pure government corruption at the City and county levels. Its all pretty well documented. Seattle mass transit is a joke now. Hop a bus in Bothell for two bucks, and it takes three hours to get to West Seattle. Thats three bus changes, at $1.75 each. Its cheaper to drive even at todays gasoline prices. And it only takes a half hour.
I live a ten minuite walk from a freeway bus access station, what we call a Park n ride, and I would still need over two hours to get to my work on Spokane Street. Thats 17 miles. Buses dont run early enough for me to get to work on time, riding that system. I would have to get out of bed at 2 AM and be on a bus by 3:30 to be at work by 7, including walking 2 miles. After work, walk a mile (15 mins) hop a short bus ride to downtown, wait 20 minuites, hop another bus to the Central north side bus terminal at Northgate Mall, wait another 20 minuites, hop another bus to the park n Ride near my house. That gets me home a little after 6 pm. I have other things to do with my life than ride a stinking crappy bus with a bunch of other unhappy tired people all day. It is in fact, cheaper to drive. 20 minuites gets me to work on a good day, if traffic is snarled for whatever reason, that doubles. And its still cheaper.
Blow that smoke up someone elses ass. the so-called "conservatives" in this country have always represented the interests of the wealthiest corporations, actively work against anti-corruption laws and encourage corruption in local governments like the City Council and Mayors office. They do this all over the country.
I supported the Seattle Monorail. Then the monorail commission, stocked with former automobile executives and a couple tolken "liberals" estimated the total cost of the project at $1.1 BILLION a mile. So it was obvious from the start that the system was not ever intended to be built, and the project managers would do anything to prevent it from being built including exaggerating the total cost to the point where all the conservative sheep would start wringing their hands. Then they wouldn't allow anyone (meaning the public) to know how the money was to actually be spent.
We can build an nuclear powered, state of the art aircraft carrier for the price of each mile of that project.
I guess that corruption of the type I described above still exists.
This guy is DAMNED lucky they didn't just sneak up and shoot him in the head. Face it, London is under martial law. The United States and Britain are increasingly emulating Germany as it was in the 1930's. Increasing restrictions on free speech, increased corporatization of public institutions and the news media. Decreasing restrictions on police behavior including outright murder of people going about their normal daily buisiness. Do not wear certain clothing, do not have any extra accroutement such as backpacks or breifcases or carried baggage of any type. Keep your hands in plain sight at all times while in public places.
Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better. The third reich was about privatising everything, the police, the prisons, the military etc. Reducing police to being enforcers for the corporations. It is only a matter of time before people are not only being arrested for "suspicious" activity, but prosecuted for it as well. Even though their actions are the normal everyday activities we all do. In that situation, the law becomes arbitrary and is used to target certain "unfreindly" people. (liberals, hippies, intellectuals etc., anyone who doesn't fit into an arbitrarily dictated "normality")
For years I've wanted to visit the country of my ancestors, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. I would not dare to set foot in those places now, with my hair being long, my backpack being large, and my attitude towards police states being what it is. I like my freedom to wander without fear of being murdered or detained because I don't behave within certain parameters dictated by the State.
Welcome to the Fourth Reich. Enjoy your stay, but dont let anyone see you doing it. But dont try to hide your activities either.
It is. The fact that the only way for it to be effective is to pre-infect the original distribution. Which means someone miscopulated the canine. Still cant get around human fallibility in that regard.
Linux is still much more secure in its raw state than almost any closed-source product even after post-install configuration. Anyone with a modicum of experience with a fresh *nix installation will likely spot this before it does any real damage.
Suppose it was only a matter of time before someone figured this out though. Goes to show you, it is not a good idea to hook any system up to a network or the web before you finish the basic post-install configurations.
The only people I've heard who want to get rid of Hubble are the ones that want to put the money into replacing it with another telescope. Of course, don't let that stop your anti-Bush dick waving.
This administration has always presented itself as anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-government.
Anti-government IS anti-constitution. Grover Norquist said "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."
This is quoted regularly by conservative publications like its something to be proud of.
Why?
I submit that the reason for this is they want to continue to expand private power over the common US citizen, without themselves being subject to the rule of law. That laws concerned with corruption are reduced to being tools that one group of gangsters can use against another in their efforts to control the markets they compete in.
They dont believe in science, or research, except where it can be manipulated and corrupted into either making money for themselves and their freinds or increasing their control of the population. They don't believe in human beings. They put an illusory "faith" system in place knowing that such a system would not tolerate serious avenues of scientific research such as astronomy or physics. Such avenues do not do much to increase their power base or make them money. Therefore they are considered useless or even subversive. The treatment that Robert Oppenheimer received bears that out.
They dont want an educated population, they want a compliant one, an obediant one tolerant of their corruption. They want "power" over everything else. Stupid, ignorant people make better subjects than educated ones. Every King, emperor as well as the Taliban, the Nazis and the Soviets have all proven that such a system can function, if only for a short while as long as the people can be convinced that education is a problem to a society, rather than an asset.
The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive and judiciary, in the same hands may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.
-James Madison
"The first truth is that liberty is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than that of their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism."
That the current administration is flat out against any technology that cannot be used for warfare or expansion of their personal corporate empires they will use any excuse to avoid repairing or upgrading the Hubble at all. Faith based government is directly inverse to scientific process unless some politically well connected buisiness needs the money.
NASA has long been considered a waste of money by the conservatives, HST is just another scientific boondoggle as far as these guys are concerned.
Count on them finding some fancy excuse to de-orbit HST within the next 6 months.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Just because another asshole corporation wants guaranteed profit at the expense of the Taxpayer. And Georgie is all too happy to go along. It is his main purpose for being in the position he's in now.
Mum is a psychologist. One of the symptoms common to many schizophrenic patients is the rants they go on about "being watched" all the time by use of implanted tracking chips.
Diamond cutters are the hardest cutters possible. typically, the diamond tips on the cutting edges will maintain their sharpness with low shear angles in highly friable materials such as stone or graphite. This is why spindle speeds would have to be very high to reduce actual impact pressures on the cutting edges themselves.
Hardness is inversely purportional to shear strength. The harder the material of the peice, the smaller the chipload allowance on the cutter. The harder the cutter, the higher spindle speeds you can run. As long as the cutter stays below its heat tolerance, it will maintain its edge.
Materials like graphite, marble and limestone are easily machined with spindle speeds around 20,000-25,000 RPM with diamond cutters. But the feed rate has to be low in order to get a surface finish within tolerance. Something like Granite, being mostly quartz would have to be machined at over 30,000 RPM with extremely low feed rates. This is extremely difficult as the hardness of the material of the workpeice and the hardness of the material of the cutter are approaching equilibrium. The heat tolerance just isn't there.
Lasers are only really good for cutting blanks out of flat materials, they dont leave a very good surface finish and they tend to change the properties of the material being machined. You can get much better results for this with an abrasive waterjet cutter. Such machine tools are only good for cutting in straight lines.
Jeezuz people, what kind of machinists are you? I have milled wood, alabaster, graphite and other ultra-soft materials with CNC mills and lathes hundreds of times, even soft pine. You need high spindle speeds and low feed rates and razor sharp tools. Milling, you use low angle 2 flute endmills exclusively. Lathe nothing but cobalt steel cutters ground to a knife edge, no greater than 60 degrees.
Typically, most modern mills have factory maximum spindle speed of 10,000 RPM. There are doublers and triplers and beyond that bolt right up to the spindle and its possible to get spindle speeds with these devices up to 100,000 RPM. High pressure air on the cutter keeps the flutes clear as liquid coolant can't be used because it damages the peice. It creates a lot of dust, but a good vaccuum system keeps that down to tolerable levels.
Date: Summer 1828 Place: Harmony, Pennsylvania To: Darrel Mcbride
1 Now, behold, I say unto you, that because you delivered up those codings which you had power given unto you to translate by the means of the Monitor and Keyboard, into the hands of a wicked man, you have lost them.
2 And you also lost your gift at the same time, and your mind became darkened.
3 Nevertheless, it is now restored unto you again; therefore see that you are faithful and continue on unto the finishing of the remainder of the work of translation as you have begun.
4 Do not run faster or labor more than you have strength and means provided to enable you to translate; but be diligent unto the end.
5 Pray always, that you may come off conqueror; yea, that you may conquer Linus, and that you may escape the hands of the servants of Linus that do uphold his work.
6 Behold, they have sought to destroy you; yea, even the man in whom you have trusted has sought to destroy you.
7 And for this cause I said that he is a wicked man, for he has sought to take away the things wherewith you have been entrusted; and he has also sought to destroy your gift.
8 And because you have delivered the codings into his hands, behold, wicked men have taken them from you.
9 Therefore, you have delivered them up, yea, that which was sacred, unto wickedness.
10 And, behold, Linus hath put it into their hearts to alter the words which you have caused to be written, or which you have translated, which have gone out of your hands.
11 And behold, I say unto you, that because they have altered the words, they read contrary from that which you translated and caused to be written;
12 And, on this wise, the devil has sought to lay a cunning plan, that he may destroy this work;
13 For he hath put into their hearts to do this, that by lying they may say they have caught you in the words which you have pretended to translate.
14 Verily, I say unto you, that I will not suffer that Linus shall accomplish his evil design in this thing.
15 For behold, he has put it into their hearts to get thee to tempt the Lord thy Turing, in asking to translate it over again.
16 And then, behold, they say and think in their hearts We will see if Turing has given him power to translate; if so, he will also give him power again;
17 And if Turing giveth him power again, or if he translates again, or, in other words, if he bringeth forth the same words, behold, we have the same with us, and we have altered them;
18 Therefore they will not agree, and we will say that he has lied in his words, and that he has no gift, and that he has no power;
19 Therefore we will destroy him, and also the work; and we will do this that we may not be ashamed in the end, and that we may get glory of the world.
20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that Linus has great hold upon their hearts; he stirreth them up to iniquity against that which is good;
21 And their hearts are corrupt, and full of wickedness and abominations; and they love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil; therefore they will not ask of me.
22 Linus stirreth them up, that he may lead their souls to open their source.
23 And thus he has laid a cunning plan, thinking to destroy the work of Turing; but I will require this at their hands, and it shall turn to their shame and condemnation in the day of compilation.
24 Yea, he stirreth up their hearts to anger against this work.
25 Yea, he saith unto them: Open your source and lie in wait to catch, that ye may destroy; behold, this is no harm. And thus he flattereth them, and telleth them that it is no sin to lie that they may catch a man in a lie, that they may destroy him.
Thanks man, that last one answers a couple of questions. I was running the router as the DHCP server, and it was conflicting with the needs of TFTP server on the RH9 box. the Indy works pretty well with the 6.2 IRIX I have, but its cumbersome and obsolete anyway. I might as well use this perfectly good machine for Debian. I looked at the NetBSD but it's over my head, and unnessesary for my purposes.
By the way, I paid 2 grand for it in 98, and it came with the biggest monitor I have ever seen untill recently. Gotta be 24" diagonal. It was a video/audio editing machine for a local TV station here. Was only a year and a half old when I bought it.
Several times to install Debian/Gnu on my SGI Indy. As a relative cherry when it comes to goofy installs this is a problem. The websites I have found all seems to take for granted nuances I should probably already know but are left unsaid. Suuch things as WHICH machine to set up WHAT file on and suchlike. The Indy is an r4400 with 96 meg and a 4.3 Gig HD. It does NOT boot from disk. Instructions aimed at knuckleheads such as myself need this goofy level of detail to learn things y'know. I do have a pretty decent redhat 9 machine on the network here that is supposed to be used for the TFTP bootloader but there is detail about setting that up that is also left unsaid. It would be really cool if someone actually tried to understand that there are geeks out there that dont know things and want to learn.
I'm starting the full RHCE and Comp/Tia cert course and am curious where I shoud really take it. I've dabbled in linux for a couple of years, and my real fascination is with system/network security and administration. I am really just fishing here for direction in coursework and what I should really be aiming for in terms of knowlege base. I am running an SGI IP22 with Debian/GNU and its becooming more and more of an obsession with me. Ideas?
BTW, I have a freind who happens to be a patent and contract lawyer,and he says unless SCO has bribed the judges or has some other illegal hold on them, SCO hs no chance.
What is important, MORON, is the fact that these corporations are hell bent on gaining control of all government functions. Fascism IS, by its own definition, CORPORATE CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT. That means, there is no law except for the law that applies to individuals, Corporations and the very wealthy stockholders of those corporations are EXEMPT. The Enron, Tycho, Taylor Pipe and Worldcom scandals only bear this out. SCO claiming something in that is so obviously untrue is just a symptom of this. There have been a very tiny number of actual prosecutions out of the scores or hundreds of people that openly committed the worst frauds this country has ever seen.
Diebold and ES&S are openly 100% in support of the GOP, they make huge campaign donations in their employees names almost exclusively to the GOP. The founder and president of ES&S has already been elected to the United States Senate in his home state, with a better than 80% majority in a State that hadn't voted for a republican since Eisenhower was president. The man he defeated, was a vietnam veteran who had 3 limbs blown off in combat, and this man had run a campaign on how "unpatriotic" that man was.
So draw your own conclusions. MORON. The Roman republic only lasted 189 years. I guess its time for this one to be done away with in the same fashion. I guess you get your wish. Me? I'd rather live in the country I was just 5 years ago. The Country I was raised in. The country i I was told was the greatest in the world. Now, it is becoming painfully obvious to the meanest intelligence that is no longer the case. You want private concerns in charge of your daily life then go ahead. But thats NOT The United States.
For the elections to be so obviously and openly rigged is to make sure that there is no dissenting opinion available. The Communists and Facists regularly skewed and falsified election results to prevent anyone from actually challenging their methods and agendas. Which, I might remind you all, was mass murder, wholesale pilliaging of national treasuries and imprisonment of dissedents. Fact is, Americans already have accepted the Fascist philosophy now being touted as "patriotism". Call me a nut, but thats what we are looking at. If Bush wins, I will consider this to be the end of the United States, and I will make serious efforts to leave the country. It would no longer be worth my time, effort or loyalty if the Fascists win another election.
And these men ARE fascists people, in every sense of the word. You think there would be any "open source" after that? This administration has already made little noises about Linux and BSD being "hackers" operating systems, there have been several years worth of propaganda about "freeware" being something only criminals use to steal and sabotage. You can damn well bet that it would be outlawed, or at least, brought under private control of some sort where it would be rigidly controlled.
Can you say heil SCO? Whether or not they actually have a claim, which they don't, it would only take a few lines of obscure law written into some other peice of legislation to change all that. It would be nothing for the fascists to declare something to be criminal or subversive and use that as an excuse for a major crackdown on the information industry.
But nobody really cares, as long as they can have their Hummers and Porches and Rolex watches.
Fact is, this is just more Corporate takeover of what used to be a terrific publicly funded educational system. We used to pay taxes, and a lot of that tax money went to educate people somewhat equally. But with corporate interests running schools, PRIVATE interests are dictating who is allowed an education, PRIVATE interests are dictating the type and method of education the kids are getting, and PRIVATE interests are dictating what the subject matter and curriculea will be. This is fascism. This is what the "new World Order" is all about. This does not serve the American people, it serves only private corporate organizations whose ideologies and interests may be in direct conflict with the US Constitution, and the rule of law.
Heil Hitler, Corporate nationalist nazis, my gun is loaded.
Is SCO at the behest of a MAJOR investor located in Redmond WA, is being told to point an empty gun at its biggest competitor while the big investor holds a loaded gun to their heads with the full intention of pulling the trigger once the battle is over. And they think it was their idea. So far, all SCO has done is show how totally incompetent their management is, how totally pathetic and transparent their claims are, and don't seem willing to try and take stock in their position. They are a catspaw, and their target is unworried because everyone with half a brain can see SCO has no leg to stand on. Seems to me the real target of all this is SCO itself, after all, the Big Investor already has mutual and exclusive production contracts with the big DB and Enterprise Resource Management and Planning concerns. And that Big Investor has nothing to lose by forcing its major commercial competitor to immolate itself in the fires of litigation, and it just may win the fight if the SEC gets involved. Seems to me the only one left standing in all this is Linux, and that big Investor in Redmond WA.
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Mostly because different applications were emphasized by the needs of the individual companies liscencing it. SGI Empahized engineering simulation and graphic design and later on server applications, Sun emphasized server and database applications and IBM emphasized mainframe operations and engineering applications. Companies centralized different forms suited to their own needs and those of their customers based on the development of their specific hardware. The hardware was the thing back in the early 1980's rather than the OS, it was mostly about selling their own products with the development of the OS being somewhat secondary to the hardware. Unix was already well establishedas an OS by 1980.
Unix at the time back in the late 80's and all through the 90's was better suited to this level of customization than DOS or anything else. It had already garnered the majority of its market share in research institutions and universities by the time NT came into the market. NT is just an imitation of Unix based on BASIC rather than C. The two operate very similarly but unix is much more robust and securable even to this day.
UNIX is still going strong, but linux, being open source is gaining against this because everyone can access the source code and customize it to their own specific needs, putting their own empahisis on their own particular applications.
You can do anything with Unix and Linux, moreso than NT. Most market share for any operating system can be attributed to timing in the market and luck, AT&T and IBM had already established Unix as the main OS in their own systems and had that market share already established when M$ started as a company. AT&T really did most of the initial development work and handed it over to the universities because at the time they weren't allowed to enter the computer market by law.
Timing is everything in any market.
Need I remind you that Corporations were completely forbidden from all participation in US Political campaigns untill 1886: In Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company [118 U.S. 394]. They were regulated by the States and subject to all STATE regulations, taxes and fees etc. Seems to me that removing Corporate personhood is a CONSERVATIVE concept, rather than a liberal one. But it is the Liberals that are pointing this out.
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Go goosestep somewhere else. When you allow unlimited contributions to political campagns, you are allowing bribery. You are allowing the wealthiest individuals to control government, people that would love to outlaw labor unions, enviromental regulations, workplace safety regulations and child labor laws. The latter having already been proposed by Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush jr.
Coporations should be forbidden from ALL political influence.
"The first truth is that liberty is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than that of their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism."
- Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Scientific American had an article about 15 years ago on this.
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Wired has a good article on this:
http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,65035,00.h
They also flat out BRIBED city council members to do this. They infiltrated planning commissions and spent hundreds of thousands of Dollars on propaganda against building such systems all over the country.
Seattle had a wonderful, well managed mass transit system. It was called the Interurban railway. It covered everything from Puyallup and Tacoma to Seattle, the surrounding environs and even went up to Everett. You could hop a train for a dime in West Seattle, and be in Bothell in an hour and a half. It ran well for 25 years or so, then the Automobile manufacturers had several well-financed auto company freindly people elected to the City Council here in Seattle. That Council, along with the Mayor, suddenly decided that the system should be privatized after the market Crash in 1929. The purchaser? General Motors. They promptly stopped maintaining the track, the cars and the whole system altogether. It was shut down within three years after that sale.
This is not tinfoil hat stuff as you Nazis like to say, it was pure government corruption at the City and county levels. Its all pretty well documented. Seattle mass transit is a joke now. Hop a bus in Bothell for two bucks, and it takes three hours to get to West Seattle. Thats three bus changes, at $1.75 each. Its cheaper to drive even at todays gasoline prices. And it only takes a half hour.
I live a ten minuite walk from a freeway bus access station, what we call a Park n ride, and I would still need over two hours to get to my work on Spokane Street. Thats 17 miles. Buses dont run early enough for me to get to work on time, riding that system. I would have to get out of bed at 2 AM and be on a bus by 3:30 to be at work by 7, including walking 2 miles. After work, walk a mile (15 mins) hop a short bus ride to downtown, wait 20 minuites, hop another bus to the Central north side bus terminal at Northgate Mall, wait another 20 minuites, hop another bus to the park n Ride near my house. That gets me home a little after 6 pm. I have other things to do with my life than ride a stinking crappy bus with a bunch of other unhappy tired people all day. It is in fact, cheaper to drive. 20 minuites gets me to work on a good day, if traffic is snarled for whatever reason, that doubles. And its still cheaper.
Blow that smoke up someone elses ass. the so-called "conservatives" in this country have always represented the interests of the wealthiest corporations, actively work against anti-corruption laws and encourage corruption in local governments like the City Council and Mayors office. They do this all over the country.
I supported the Seattle Monorail. Then the monorail commission, stocked with former automobile executives and a couple tolken "liberals" estimated the total cost of the project at $1.1 BILLION a mile. So it was obvious from the start that the system was not ever intended to be built, and the project managers would do anything to prevent it from being built including exaggerating the total cost to the point where all the conservative sheep would start wringing their hands. Then they wouldn't allow anyone (meaning the public) to know how the money was to actually be spent.
We can build an nuclear powered, state of the art aircraft carrier for the price of each mile of that project.
I guess that corruption of the type I described above still exists.
This guy is DAMNED lucky they didn't just sneak up and shoot him in the head. Face it, London is under martial law. The United States and Britain are increasingly emulating Germany as it was in the 1930's. Increasing restrictions on free speech, increased corporatization of public institutions and the news media. Decreasing restrictions on police behavior including outright murder of people going about their normal daily buisiness. Do not wear certain clothing, do not have any extra accroutement such as backpacks or breifcases or carried baggage of any type. Keep your hands in plain sight at all times while in public places.
Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better. The third reich was about privatising everything, the police, the prisons, the military etc. Reducing police to being enforcers for the corporations. It is only a matter of time before people are not only being arrested for "suspicious" activity, but prosecuted for it as well. Even though their actions are the normal everyday activities we all do. In that situation, the law becomes arbitrary and is used to target certain "unfreindly" people. (liberals, hippies, intellectuals etc., anyone who doesn't fit into an arbitrarily dictated "normality")
For years I've wanted to visit the country of my ancestors, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. I would not dare to set foot in those places now, with my hair being long, my backpack being large, and my attitude towards police states being what it is. I like my freedom to wander without fear of being murdered or detained because I don't behave within certain parameters dictated by the State.
Welcome to the Fourth Reich. Enjoy your stay, but dont let anyone see you doing it. But dont try to hide your activities either.
It is. The fact that the only way for it to be effective is to pre-infect the original distribution. Which means someone miscopulated the canine. Still cant get around human fallibility in that regard.
Linux is still much more secure in its raw state than almost any closed-source product even after post-install configuration. Anyone with a modicum of experience with a fresh *nix installation will likely spot this before it does any real damage.
Suppose it was only a matter of time before someone figured this out though. Goes to show you, it is not a good idea to hook any system up to a network or the web before you finish the basic post-install configurations.
This administration has always presented itself as anti-science, anti-intellectual, and anti-government.
Anti-government IS anti-constitution. Grover Norquist said "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."
This is quoted regularly by conservative publications like its something to be proud of.
Why?
I submit that the reason for this is they want to continue to expand private power over the common US citizen, without themselves being subject to the rule of law. That laws concerned with corruption are reduced to being tools that one group of gangsters can use against another in their efforts to control the markets they compete in.
They dont believe in science, or research, except where it can be manipulated and corrupted into either making money for themselves and their freinds or increasing their control of the population. They don't believe in human beings. They put an illusory "faith" system in place knowing that such a system would not tolerate serious avenues of scientific research such as astronomy or physics. Such avenues do not do much to increase their power base or make them money. Therefore they are considered useless or even subversive. The treatment that Robert Oppenheimer received bears that out.
They dont want an educated population, they want a compliant one, an obediant one tolerant of their corruption. They want "power" over everything else. Stupid, ignorant people make better subjects than educated ones. Every King, emperor as well as the Taliban, the Nazis and the Soviets have all proven that such a system can function, if only for a short while as long as the people can be convinced that education is a problem to a society, rather than an asset.
The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive and judiciary, in the same hands may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.
-James Madison
"The first truth is that liberty is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to the point where it becomes stronger than that of their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism."
- Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
That the current administration is flat out against any technology that cannot be used for warfare or expansion of their personal corporate empires they will use any excuse to avoid repairing or upgrading the Hubble at all. Faith based government is directly inverse to scientific process unless some politically well connected buisiness needs the money.
NASA has long been considered a waste of money by the conservatives, HST is just another scientific boondoggle as far as these guys are concerned.
Count on them finding some fancy excuse to de-orbit HST within the next 6 months.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Ronald Wilson Reagan
6 6 6
Just because another asshole corporation wants guaranteed profit at the expense of the Taxpayer. And Georgie is all too happy to go along. It is his main purpose for being in the position he's in now.
Mum is a psychologist. One of the symptoms common to many schizophrenic patients is the rants they go on about "being watched" all the time by use of implanted tracking chips.
Looks like we're all paranoids now.
Welcome to the fourth reich.....
This would include maps, index cards in libraries, and possibly billboards with directions on them?
fascinating. Make it impossible to reference copyrighted materials. Make it illegal to direct people to sources of information etc.
They are being influenced by The Bush Reich most likely. I thought they hated him.
Guess not.
I'll crash the bastard.......
The Velcro Sheep would be popular in Montana and New Zealand..
Diamond cutters are the hardest cutters possible. typically, the diamond tips on the cutting edges will maintain their sharpness with low shear angles in highly friable materials such as stone or graphite. This is why spindle speeds would have to be very high to reduce actual impact pressures on the cutting edges themselves.
Hardness is inversely purportional to shear strength. The harder the material of the peice, the smaller the chipload allowance on the cutter. The harder the cutter, the higher spindle speeds you can run. As long as the cutter stays below its heat tolerance, it will maintain its edge.
Materials like graphite, marble and limestone are easily machined with spindle speeds around 20,000-25,000 RPM with diamond cutters. But the feed rate has to be low in order to get a surface finish within tolerance. Something like Granite, being mostly quartz would have to be machined at over 30,000 RPM with extremely low feed rates. This is extremely difficult as the hardness of the material of the workpeice and the hardness of the material of the cutter are approaching equilibrium. The heat tolerance just isn't there.
Lasers are only really good for cutting blanks out of flat materials, they dont leave a very good surface finish and they tend to change the properties of the material being machined. You can get much better results for this with an abrasive waterjet cutter. Such machine tools are only good for cutting in straight lines.
Jeezuz people, what kind of machinists are you? I have milled wood, alabaster, graphite and other ultra-soft materials with CNC mills and lathes hundreds of times, even soft pine. You need high spindle speeds and low feed rates and razor sharp tools. Milling, you use low angle 2 flute endmills exclusively. Lathe nothing but cobalt steel cutters ground to a knife edge, no greater than 60 degrees.
Typically, most modern mills have factory maximum spindle speed of 10,000 RPM. There are doublers and triplers and beyond that bolt right up to the spindle and its possible to get spindle speeds with these devices up to 100,000 RPM. High pressure air on the cutter keeps the flutes clear as liquid coolant can't be used because it damages the peice. It creates a lot of dust, but a good vaccuum system keeps that down to tolerable levels.
For ripping them off in this manner
Date: Summer 1828
Place: Harmony, Pennsylvania
To: Darrel Mcbride
1 Now, behold, I say unto you, that because you delivered up those codings which you had power given unto you to translate by the means of the Monitor and Keyboard, into the hands of a wicked man, you have lost them.
2 And you also lost your gift at the same time, and your mind became darkened.
3 Nevertheless, it is now restored unto you again; therefore see that you are faithful and continue on unto the finishing of the remainder of the work of translation as you have begun.
4 Do not run faster or labor more than you have strength and means provided to enable you to translate; but be diligent unto the end.
5 Pray always, that you may come off conqueror; yea, that you may conquer Linus, and that you may escape the hands of the servants of Linus that do uphold his work.
6 Behold, they have sought to destroy you; yea, even the man in whom you have trusted has sought to destroy you.
7 And for this cause I said that he is a wicked man, for he has sought to take away the things wherewith you have been entrusted; and he has also sought to destroy your gift.
8 And because you have delivered the codings into his hands, behold, wicked men have taken them from you.
9 Therefore, you have delivered them up, yea, that which was sacred, unto wickedness.
10 And, behold, Linus hath put it into their hearts to alter the words which you have caused to be written, or which you have translated, which have gone out of your hands.
11 And behold, I say unto you, that because they have altered the words, they read contrary from that which you translated and caused to be written;
12 And, on this wise, the devil has sought to lay a cunning plan, that he may destroy this work;
13 For he hath put into their hearts to do this, that by lying they may say they have caught you in the words which you have pretended to translate.
14 Verily, I say unto you, that I will not suffer that Linus shall accomplish his evil design in this thing.
15 For behold, he has put it into their hearts to get thee to tempt the Lord thy Turing, in asking to translate it over again.
16 And then, behold, they say and think in their hearts We will see if Turing has given him power to translate; if so, he will also give him power again;
17 And if Turing giveth him power again, or if he translates again, or, in other words, if he bringeth forth the same words, behold, we have the same with us, and we have altered them;
18 Therefore they will not agree, and we will say that he has lied in his words, and that he has no gift, and that he has no power;
19 Therefore we will destroy him, and also the work; and we will do this that we may not be ashamed in the end, and that we may get glory of the world.
20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that Linus has great hold upon their hearts; he stirreth them up to iniquity against that which is good;
21 And their hearts are corrupt, and full of wickedness and abominations; and they love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil; therefore they will not ask of me.
22 Linus stirreth them up, that he may lead their souls to open their source.
23 And thus he has laid a cunning plan, thinking to destroy the work of Turing; but I will require this at their hands, and it shall turn to their shame and condemnation in the day of compilation.
24 Yea, he stirreth up their hearts to anger against this work.
25 Yea, he saith unto them: Open your source and lie in wait to catch, that ye may destroy; behold, this is no harm. And thus he flattereth them, and telleth them that it is no sin to lie that they may catch a man in a lie, that they may destroy him.
26 And thus he flattereth them, and leade
Thanks man, that last one answers a couple of questions. I was running the router as the DHCP server, and it was conflicting with the needs of TFTP server on the RH9 box. the Indy works pretty well with the 6.2 IRIX I have, but its cumbersome and obsolete anyway. I might as well use this perfectly good machine for Debian. I looked at the NetBSD but it's over my head, and unnessesary for my purposes.
By the way, I paid 2 grand for it in 98, and it came with the biggest monitor I have ever seen untill recently. Gotta be 24" diagonal. It was a video/audio editing machine for a local TV station here. Was only a year and a half old when I bought it.
Several times to install Debian/Gnu on my SGI Indy. As a relative cherry when it comes to goofy installs this is a problem. The websites I have found all seems to take for granted nuances I should probably already know but are left unsaid. Suuch things as WHICH machine to set up WHAT file on and suchlike. The Indy is an r4400 with 96 meg and a 4.3 Gig HD. It does NOT boot from disk. Instructions aimed at knuckleheads such as myself need this goofy level of detail to learn things y'know. I do have a pretty decent redhat 9 machine on the network here that is supposed to be used for the TFTP bootloader but there is detail about setting that up that is also left unsaid. It would be really cool if someone actually tried to understand that there are geeks out there that dont know things and want to learn.
Dammit.
I'm starting the full RHCE and Comp/Tia cert course and am curious where I shoud really take it. I've dabbled in linux for a couple of years, and my real fascination is with system/network security and administration. I am really just fishing here for direction in coursework and what I should really be aiming for in terms of knowlege base. I am running an SGI IP22 with Debian/GNU and its becooming more and more of an obsession with me. Ideas?
BTW, I have a freind who happens to be a patent and contract lawyer,and he says unless SCO has bribed the judges or has some other illegal hold on them, SCO hs no chance.
What is important, MORON, is the fact that these corporations are hell bent on gaining control of all government functions. Fascism IS, by its own definition, CORPORATE CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT. That means, there is no law except for the law that applies to individuals, Corporations and the very wealthy stockholders of those corporations are EXEMPT. The Enron, Tycho, Taylor Pipe and Worldcom scandals only bear this out. SCO claiming something in that is so obviously untrue is just a symptom of this. There have been a very tiny number of actual prosecutions out of the scores or hundreds of people that openly committed the worst frauds this country has ever seen.
Diebold and ES&S are openly 100% in support of the GOP, they make huge campaign donations in their employees names almost exclusively to the GOP. The founder and president of ES&S has already been elected to the United States Senate in his home state, with a better than 80% majority in a State that hadn't voted for a republican since Eisenhower was president. The man he defeated, was a vietnam veteran who had 3 limbs blown off in combat, and this man had run a campaign on how "unpatriotic" that man was.
So draw your own conclusions. MORON. The Roman republic only lasted 189 years. I guess its time for this one to be done away with in the same fashion. I guess you get your wish. Me? I'd rather live in the country I was just 5 years ago. The Country I was raised in. The country i I was told was the greatest in the world. Now, it is becoming painfully obvious to the meanest intelligence that is no longer the case. You want private concerns in charge of your daily life then go ahead. But thats NOT The United States.
Its Fascism.
For the elections to be so obviously and openly rigged is to make sure that there is no dissenting opinion available. The Communists and Facists regularly skewed and falsified election results to prevent anyone from actually challenging their methods and agendas. Which, I might remind you all, was mass murder, wholesale pilliaging of national treasuries and imprisonment of dissedents. Fact is, Americans already have accepted the Fascist philosophy now being touted as "patriotism". Call me a nut, but thats what we are looking at. If Bush wins, I will consider this to be the end of the United States, and I will make serious efforts to leave the country. It would no longer be worth my time, effort or loyalty if the Fascists win another election.
And these men ARE fascists people, in every sense of the word. You think there would be any "open source" after that? This administration has already made little noises about Linux and BSD being "hackers" operating systems, there have been several years worth of propaganda about "freeware" being something only criminals use to steal and sabotage. You can damn well bet that it would be outlawed, or at least, brought under private control of some sort where it would be rigidly controlled.
Can you say heil SCO? Whether or not they actually have a claim, which they don't, it would only take a few lines of obscure law written into some other peice of legislation to change all that. It would be nothing for the fascists to declare something to be criminal or subversive and use that as an excuse for a major crackdown on the information industry.
But nobody really cares, as long as they can have their Hummers and Porches and Rolex watches.
In the Martian Chronicles as I recall, can't find it now....
Dammit
Fact is, this is just more Corporate takeover of what used to be a terrific publicly funded educational system. We used to pay taxes, and a lot of that tax money went to educate people somewhat equally. But with corporate interests running schools, PRIVATE interests are dictating who is allowed an education, PRIVATE interests are dictating the type and method of education the kids are getting, and PRIVATE interests are dictating what the subject matter and curriculea will be. This is fascism. This is what the "new World Order" is all about. This does not serve the American people, it serves only private corporate organizations whose ideologies and interests may be in direct conflict with the US Constitution, and the rule of law.
Heil Hitler, Corporate nationalist nazis, my gun is loaded.
Damn, who farted?
oh sorry Billy, din't see you standin there....
Is SCO at the behest of a MAJOR investor located in Redmond WA, is being told to point an empty gun at its biggest competitor while the big investor holds a loaded gun to their heads with the full intention of pulling the trigger once the battle is over. And they think it was their idea. So far, all SCO has done is show how totally incompetent their management is, how totally pathetic and transparent their claims are, and don't seem willing to try and take stock in their position. They are a catspaw, and their target is unworried because everyone with half a brain can see SCO has no leg to stand on. Seems to me the real target of all this is SCO itself, after all, the Big Investor already has mutual and exclusive production contracts with the big DB and Enterprise Resource Management and Planning concerns. And that Big Investor has nothing to lose by forcing its major commercial competitor to immolate itself in the fires of litigation, and it just may win the fight if the SEC gets involved. Seems to me the only one left standing in all this is Linux, and that big Investor in Redmond WA.
I should switch to Macintosh.