Actually, I have to Motorola V60i, it rocks! I have destroyed 9 phones in the last six years (including 2 other Motorola's), but I swear this one is pretty much indestructible. I even had it run over by a car (seriously!). I have had to replace the front and back cover plates a couple times, b/c they were so scratched, but other then that. No issues.
Also, the batter will last 3 to 4 four days before charging (w/ average use).
You have a really good point. I was there for a long time. I started with DOS, then Windows 3.1, made the jump to apple for a few years and then came back to Windows when W2K came out. For the last year or two I have installed and reinstalled various different version of RH and Mandrake, along with attempting to install PPCLinux (a RH distro). Each time I would be okay for a few days, and then I would find some major thing I couldn't do that I needed to... and back to Windows I went.
When RH 9 came out, I was really hesitant to try it as my main desktop, so installed it on my extra machine (I have two at work). There I messed with it for a while, making sure that I could do everything I wanted. There are tons of GUI tools built into both KDE and GNOME. Along with ton's of help groups.google.com. After a few weeks, I decided I was ready for the switch.
I have been using RH9 with Ximian (mod of GNOME) as my desktop (which you have to install separately). I have KDE installed so that I can use some of there apps for burning and media and such. I have Crossover Office installed to run Excel and Word. I will admit I am on my second install, don't know why, but the first one got hosed (I think it had something to do with recompiling glibc). But since the second install, I have been fine. There isn't anything I can't do that I could on Windows. It a bit faster, and I had no trouble with the worms that were floating around.
A couple things I can say are:
1) installing with a flat Workstation/Server/etc. install doesn't typically give you ever thing you need.
2) the groups are you friend. Every question you can think of has been asked.
While Redhat may not be the best distro (I personally couldn't say), there are a ton of people using it, therefore there is tons of support for it.
Yeah, that's what I do, but I had to install kde-base, kde-libs, et al, that was when the trouble started. It may have been an isolated issue, but it turned me off from KDE reguardless.
I have had trouble's with KDE... It tends to be bloated and slow. But but there are a lot of useful apps on it, so maybe this will fix some of it's issues.
I work for a fairly large IT company, and at a guess, I would say that out of the 40(ish) developers in my group, we are at about 10% Linux (me being one of them), 40% OS X and 50% Windows. That beings said, it's a trend that's on an up slope. A year ago it was more like 0% Linux, 25% OS X and the rest was Windows. The fact is people (especially developers) are getting sick of Windows. Therefore, while Linux may never have a full 20% of the desktop market share, the numbers are going to continue to grow as people are looking for alternatives to Windows.
I maybe speaking out ignorance here (I am not afraid to admit it)... but you said, "GAIM stores your password in clear text within the registry." When I hear the word "registry" I think of Windows registry. Are you talking about gaim running on Windows, or is there a "registry" in linux?
Just curious.
Disclaimer -- I have only been using linux as my full time OS for a little over a month and still consider my self a newbie... so no flames please.
Doesn't really surprise me that M$ and M$N would do anything they can to require people to use there products.
Can't provide a reference on this, but the rumor is that they are discontinuing Outlook Express, requiring people to use the MSN Email client in it's place (and therefore be an MSN user). If true, which I believe it is, that's pretty weak.
I have been with my company for over 5 years now. I started when I was 18 as an entry level markup engineer and worked my way up. About a year after I started I moved into a position which required me to be on call (pretty much 24/7). At that time I got a company phone (a Nextel). Upon receiving it, I decided that I didn't want to carry around my personal phone anymore (with the company phone) so I cancelled it and started using my work phone for everything. I had that phone for just over a year (breaking two and getting replacements) when my boss called me into his office. He told me that our VP had called him that morning and instructed him to take my phone away. Shocked, I asked him why? I would seem that we were on a 600 minute per phone plan and I had been over 3000 minutes for the three preceding months. Not only that, but my usage had been close to 4 time that of the next highest person in Operation. All I could really say was... "Oops!"
The interesting thing is, now, four years later, I am getting a new phone company. It should be delivered any day now. And for some reason, there is still a 600 minute plan (although we are with Sprint). Anyway, I think this time I am going to be a bit more careful and keep my personal phone.
Gentoo Rocks!
... well you know ... everyone has one and every thinks everyone elses stinks ... but anyway ... that's mine.
I know opinions are like
--J
The problem with that is your browser will more then likely cache it.
... like so:
i f",
" http://www.thebulkclub.com/images/calcularlogo.gi f" /tmp/image.out ".$image."");
You might want to write a little PERL script to wget it over and over and over
----
#!/usr/bin/perl
@images = (
"http://www.thebulkclub.com/images/jointoday.g
"http://www.thebulkclub.com/images/logo.gif",
);
while ( 1 ne 0 ) {
foreach $image (@images) {
system ("wget -O
}
}
----
Of course to kill the script the next morning, you are going to have to "killall perl" to stop the script, but whatever...
--J
Actually, I have to Motorola V60i, it rocks! I have destroyed 9 phones in the last six years (including 2 other Motorola's), but I swear this one is pretty much indestructible. I even had it run over by a car (seriously!). I have had to replace the front and back cover plates a couple times, b/c they were so scratched, but other then that. No issues.
... don't knock it till you try it. .. J
Also, the batter will last 3 to 4 four days before charging (w/ average use).
Anyway
You have a really good point. I was there for a long time. I started with DOS, then Windows 3.1, made the jump to apple for a few years and then came back to Windows when W2K came out. For the last year or two I have installed and reinstalled various different version of RH and Mandrake, along with attempting to install PPCLinux (a RH distro). Each time I would be okay for a few days, and then I would find some major thing I couldn't do that I needed to... and back to Windows I went.
... (** flame away **)
When RH 9 came out, I was really hesitant to try it as my main desktop, so installed it on my extra machine (I have two at work). There I messed with it for a while, making sure that I could do everything I wanted. There are tons of GUI tools built into both KDE and GNOME. Along with ton's of help groups.google.com. After a few weeks, I decided I was ready for the switch.
I have been using RH9 with Ximian (mod of GNOME) as my desktop (which you have to install separately). I have KDE installed so that I can use some of there apps for burning and media and such. I have Crossover Office installed to run Excel and Word. I will admit I am on my second install, don't know why, but the first one got hosed (I think it had something to do with recompiling glibc). But since the second install, I have been fine. There isn't anything I can't do that I could on Windows. It a bit faster, and I had no trouble with the worms that were floating around.
A couple things I can say are:
1) installing with a flat Workstation/Server/etc. install doesn't typically give you ever thing you need.
2) the groups are you friend. Every question you can think of has been asked.
While Redhat may not be the best distro (I personally couldn't say), there are a ton of people using it, therefore there is tons of support for it.
That's my 2 cents
Yeah, that's what I do, but I had to install kde-base, kde-libs, et al, that was when the trouble started. It may have been an isolated issue, but it turned me off from KDE reguardless.
I have had trouble's with KDE... It tends to be bloated and slow. But but there are a lot of useful apps on it, so maybe this will fix some of it's issues.
Yes, but most people go to the Doctor and get some sort of "3rd party" shot or pill. Really, what's the differece.
I think that in either case it is either flaws in the origional design or new technology (bio or otherwise) which leave the "host" open to an attack.
--J
Same with me.
I am just wondering if it's Ham users that are embracing Linux, or if it's Linux users that are embracing Ham's ....
.... Ham ....
.... embracing hams ...
mmmmmm
ooooooo
That sounds more like outlook express then outlook.
So what's with them mention of a "registery" in that post?
I work for a fairly large IT company, and at a guess, I would say that out of the 40(ish) developers in my group, we are at about 10% Linux (me being one of them), 40% OS X and 50% Windows. That beings said, it's a trend that's on an up slope. A year ago it was more like 0% Linux, 25% OS X and the rest was Windows. The fact is people (especially developers) are getting sick of Windows. Therefore, while Linux may never have a full 20% of the desktop market share, the numbers are going to continue to grow as people are looking for alternatives to Windows.
I maybe speaking out ignorance here (I am not afraid to admit it) ... but you said, "GAIM stores your password in clear text within the registry." When I hear the word "registry" I think of Windows registry. Are you talking about gaim running on Windows, or is there a "registry" in linux?
... so no flames please.
Just curious.
Disclaimer -- I have only been using linux as my full time OS for a little over a month and still consider my self a newbie
Point taken.
Not that is should matter ... worm's shouldn't affect/infect OS X.
I haven't used Outlook in a while, so correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Outlook auto open attachments when the user is using the preview pane?
Either that or get bought by IBM ...
Doesn't really surprise me that M$ and M$N would do anything they can to require people to use there products.
Can't provide a reference on this, but the rumor is that they are discontinuing Outlook Express, requiring people to use the MSN Email client in it's place (and therefore be an MSN user). If true, which I believe it is, that's pretty weak.
I have been with my company for over 5 years now. I started when I was 18 as an entry level markup engineer and worked my way up. About a year after I started I moved into a position which required me to be on call (pretty much 24/7). At that time I got a company phone (a Nextel). Upon receiving it, I decided that I didn't want to carry around my personal phone anymore (with the company phone) so I cancelled it and started using my work phone for everything. I had that phone for just over a year (breaking two and getting replacements) when my boss called me into his office. He told me that our VP had called him that morning and instructed him to take my phone away. Shocked, I asked him why? I would seem that we were on a 600 minute per phone plan and I had been over 3000 minutes for the three preceding months. Not only that, but my usage had been close to 4 time that of the next highest person in Operation. All I could really say was ... "Oops!"
The interesting thing is, now, four years later, I am getting a new phone company. It should be delivered any day now. And for some reason, there is still a 600 minute plan (although we are with Sprint). Anyway, I think this time I am going to be a bit more careful and keep my personal phone.