Or I could skip all of this nonsense and ignore whatever they are offering and just use one format which I know is truly open: OASIS.
All very well and good, except who is going to buy your product? How are you going to write software that produces documents that only a small percentage of people can read?
Like it or not (and I don't) MSWord docs are the standard. I used to not own Word, but I had to get it because I could not communicate with anyone. And don't tell me OO makes Word docs. Do you trust OO to make a resume that others will read in MSWord? I tried it, once.
We need some way to make documents that everyone can see. Is it possible that OASIS docs could be executable out of the box?
I get scared. I'm afraid the Microsoft will copy the Google ideas, "force" people to use it via their new OS, run Google out of business, then add in all the crap that Google left out (Ads, spyware, etc). But we won't be able to do anything about it because noone will be left to compete.
Google better watch out they don't extend themselves too far like Netscape did. Otherwise the nightmare scenario will come true again.
I still don't understand Hatch. I've said this before, but I remember Hatch kicking Hillary Roisen's ass about fair use early in the debates. At the time he led a heroic effort to stop the RIAA from imposing undue restrictions. I don't understand why he changed his mind...
E.g. from: http://www.insightmag.com/news/2001/01/15/Music/Th e-Napster.Challenge-210824.shtml
Along with the nation's teen-agers, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah is an unlikely proponent of the online music company. A key Hatch aide recently left Capitol Hill to become Napster's chief lobbyist in Washington. Unbeknownst to many, Hatch is a prolific, yet frustrated, songwriter who says Napster is a great way to get your music known if you don't get a record deal.
"For every Metallica, there are thousands of talented songwriters whose music will never be recorded, talented musicians whose work will never be heard by the public. Peer-to-peer technology (like Napster) may help some of these artists," Hatch said in an interview with Inside magazine.
What you get out of the breeder shouldn't be what you put into production. Assuming you can still read the code, you're still going to want to put in common-sense improvements that the GA's didn't discover.
Could this be the long awaited answer to harmonizing Creation and Evolution:-)
He wrote "The Fountains of Paradise", another book about a space elevator, in 1978.
As I recall the "shaft" of the elevator was made with a special new material that has the strength of steel at the molecular level. I.e. a strand of it one molecule thick could not be broken and was also super dangerous as it could cut through almost anything.
Interesting concept, but I guess we don't really need that stuff after all...
Barney and Betty's kid? How about a reality check.
Bam Bam Rubble was adopted, so Barney and Betty's genes don't count.
To avoid offtopic moderation: do you think this is all positive for the kid, or is this musle limiting protein perhaps useful for something like cancer prevention or some such?
they can travel to oppisite sides of the universe and whatever happens to one, instantaneously happens to the other. Literally, no moment of time occurs between the change
I ask, could it be possible that this could be used as some kind of communication system across space. If some alien race were to affect particles in their space, then previously entangled particles corresponding to them (like from soon after the big bang) would be affected in other parts of the universe. If we could detect and decode those particles we could pick up messages.
Is this just crazy thinking or might there be some vast network out there waiting to be found?
No, they were all conditioned and believed firmly they are being attacked and threatened by the Jewish minority....And so many people believe it is the Arabs who started a kind of war with the US
Yeah, but in Nazi Germany there was not a network of evil idealogical religious nuts blowing up buildings. The things they said about the Jews were made up. In present day, Al-Qaeda is not a ficticious organization.
I agree with you about breaking the rules on torture, and I agree that we must not pin any blame on the Arabs as a people and it disturbs me that some people do this. I just cannot agree that we are being duped to the same level as pre-WWII Germany.
Another thing that disturbs me is so many Arab friends of mine believe that it was the Jews who blew up the World Trade Center. Kinda' ironic.
The users often are the problem; give a user 10 steps to perform to possibly view some naughty pictures of a celebrity and chances are, a significant proportion of them will do so and infect their computer in the process.
Thats it! All Microsoft needs to do is announce that if you install their patches, naked pictures of Jennifer Lopez will be automatically uploaded to the user's machine. There will never be security problems again!
If death stopped being inevitable, then the rich and powerful would be the first ones to get that technology...Finding and killing the methuselas would become an obscession for anyone who wanted to change things for the better
I learned (and still remember) more about history from all the historical fiction books I've read than I ever will from history classes.
I learned a lot about the 20th century from Our Dumb Centry by The Onion. No joke, you can really get a fairly decent overview from the satire. The moon landing story is especially funny.
Heh - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- A.C.C.
I knew some Albanian refugees who came to the States. My wife took them shopping at the grocery to show them how to do it. She had to get some cash, so she went to the ATM and got some out. The Albanians stared in disbelief as she simply removed cash from a machine to buy goods. It had to be explained to them that it was her money from the bank.
I had this idea that in the future that vechicles would be driven on a rental basis. Any person could simply get into any car and start driving it because their tag would dock them the money it cost to use it as long as they were driving it. To the observer from our era, it would look as if the person was stealing the car!
the idea that staying on a path and killing an animal that's about to die would change nothing but simply stepping off the path would alter things doesn't hold water. Any intrusion into the environment is almost guaranteed to change things.
That being said, it's still a great story.
I agree with your logic entirely, and that is exactly why I found this story to be poorly made. This and other Bradbury stories irritate me to no end because of their lack of logic and silly premises. Just the idea that these hunting expeditions would be allowed to occur in the first place when the potential for harm is so great, makes this, to me, one of the dumbest stories ever written.
I'm not dissing anyone for liking these stores. They are only stories after all, but I personally cannot abide this kind of sloppy reasoning. I'm glad Bradbury isn't in charge of a scientific organization.
Are you trolling or do you really believe that the fundamental idea of open source (not to be confused with free) software is too good to be true?
Actually I meant the opposite point. My post said that my experience with Open source software was that it seemed too good to be true, but it turns out as advertised (i.e. both open and good - and often free). You mentioned the adage if it seems too good to be true, then it is usually not, but in the case of open source software, the adage does not apply.
http://www.spybot.info . That's all it takes. Have it run on people's windows startup and they're set.
Well I got Spybot and ran it on a friend's XP machine that was really messed up (ads popping up during idle time, ran slow, etc.). I ran it on his wife's account and it found a bunch of stuff, which I eliminated. Then I ran it on his account, and it found a bunch more stuff- what the heck? Do you have to run it on every account!? Anyway the machine still ran slow.
Then, I updated Spybot with its own mechanism. I ran it and it hung halfway thru the process. Then I rebooted, ran it again, and it hung again.
I'm no dummy but I'm new at this spyware removal thing and I cannot seem to get it right. This seems a very serious problem for the entire planet right now. Thank God I use Macs at home.
I blame Pepsi's rather lackluster promotion efforts in part (a brief, off-handed mention in a commercial that ran once during the superbowl).
I saw the same ad several times after the superbowl and as late as last week. I only won one song however and that was from a discarded cap that my son found in the street. I'm a Coke drinker and I wasn't about to switch to a drink I didn't like for a 1/3rd chance to win a free 99cent song.
While not perfect, I could live with that outcome.
On one level I agree with you, it's likely that people who would never buy these products would be the ones most likely to filter. Therefore, even a spammer could find this an acceptable solution.
But there is also the issue of spam blocked at the ISP, which the spammers would never go for because they won't reach their intended audience. But maybe the ISPs will agree not to block if the address is not spoofed?
As I said, it's naturally occurring if you don't consider cultural influence.
Who is to say that the decline in birthrate for certain societies is not also culturally influenced? You were the one who mentioned studies but the only study I ever heard of was that birthrates go down in societies as income rises. That's a far cry from the seemingly biological (i.e. naturally occurring) reason you give.
In metropolitan areas like NYC fewer couples have children. Studies have shown it's a natually occurring phenomenon without any conscious decisions being made.
Yeah, and in metropolitan areas like Mexico city the birth rate doesn't slow down at all. Neither does it in Jakarta or New Delhi. What the heck kind of studies are you talking about? In China they had to mandate lower birth rates.
Instead he killed them through trickery and without -direct- evidence of their plans. Doing so made him the dark hero who was able to strike first when in jeopardy and left questions going long afterwards about whether he was "right" or whether he was presumptuous.
I don't see a compelling reason for the existance of this "upgrade" other than to feed the M$ coffers and lock in a steady revenue stream for them.
Do you have the same feeling that I do, that other computer OS vendors enjoy putting more useful features into their OS? Hell, they even seem to enjoy the frivilous ones. Its like they care about the end users and moving technology forward. But Microsoft just doesn't care about anything but their revenue? It's just so frustrating. We could live in such a better world than we do, you know?
I'm not saying the others aren't in it for the money too, everyone's gotta eat, but the quality of motivation just seems different to me.
Yes but when global seas cooling happens because people are bleeding off all the tidal energy and we are all thrown into a new ice age, people will regret all this.
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All very well and good, except who is going to buy your product? How are you going to write software that produces documents that only a small percentage of people can read?
Like it or not (and I don't) MSWord docs are the standard. I used to not own Word, but I had to get it because I could not communicate with anyone. And don't tell me OO makes Word docs. Do you trust OO to make a resume that others will read in MSWord? I tried it, once.
We need some way to make documents that everyone can see. Is it possible that OASIS docs could be executable out of the box?
I get scared. I'm afraid the Microsoft will copy the Google ideas, "force" people to use it via their new OS, run Google out of business, then add in all the crap that Google left out (Ads, spyware, etc). But we won't be able to do anything about it because noone will be left to compete.
Google better watch out they don't extend themselves too far like Netscape did. Otherwise the nightmare scenario will come true again.
The '42' floating in the stars on the upper-left side near the end was a nice touch.
Freaky, when I went to click the Read More... number link on the Slashdot page, it was 42 of 254 comments...
I still don't understand Hatch. I've said this before, but I remember Hatch kicking Hillary Roisen's ass about fair use early in the debates. At the time he led a heroic effort to stop the RIAA from imposing undue restrictions. I don't understand why he changed his mind...
E.g. from: http://www.insightmag.com/news/2001/01/15/Music/TAlong with the nation's teen-agers, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah is an unlikely proponent of the online music company. A key Hatch aide recently left Capitol Hill to become Napster's chief lobbyist in Washington. Unbeknownst to many, Hatch is a prolific, yet frustrated, songwriter who says Napster is a great way to get your music known if you don't get a record deal.
"For every Metallica, there are thousands of talented songwriters whose music will never be recorded, talented musicians whose work will never be heard by the public. Peer-to-peer technology (like Napster) may help some of these artists," Hatch said in an interview with Inside magazine.
What you get out of the breeder shouldn't be what you put into production. Assuming you can still read the code, you're still going to want to put in common-sense improvements that the GA's didn't discover.
Could this be the long awaited answer to harmonizing Creation and Evolution :-)
He wrote "The Fountains of Paradise", another book about a space elevator, in 1978.
As I recall the "shaft" of the elevator was made with a special new material that has the strength of steel at the molecular level. I.e. a strand of it one molecule thick could not be broken and was also super dangerous as it could cut through almost anything.
Interesting concept, but I guess we don't really need that stuff after all...
Barney and Betty's kid? How about a reality check.
Bam Bam Rubble was adopted, so Barney and Betty's genes don't count.
To avoid offtopic moderation: do you think this is all positive for the kid, or is this musle limiting protein perhaps useful for something like cancer prevention or some such?
they can travel to oppisite sides of the universe and whatever happens to one, instantaneously happens to the other. Literally, no moment of time occurs between the change
I ask, could it be possible that this could be used as some kind of communication system across space. If some alien race were to affect particles in their space, then previously entangled particles corresponding to them (like from soon after the big bang) would be affected in other parts of the universe. If we could detect and decode those particles we could pick up messages.
Is this just crazy thinking or might there be some vast network out there waiting to be found?
No, they were all conditioned and believed firmly they are being attacked and threatened by the Jewish minority....And so many people believe it is the Arabs who started a kind of war with the US
Yeah, but in Nazi Germany there was not a network of evil idealogical religious nuts blowing up buildings. The things they said about the Jews were made up. In present day, Al-Qaeda is not a ficticious organization.
I agree with you about breaking the rules on torture, and I agree that we must not pin any blame on the Arabs as a people and it disturbs me that some people do this. I just cannot agree that we are being duped to the same level as pre-WWII Germany.
Another thing that disturbs me is so many Arab friends of mine believe that it was the Jews who blew up the World Trade Center. Kinda' ironic.
The users often are the problem; give a user 10 steps to perform to possibly view some naughty pictures of a celebrity and chances are, a significant proportion of them will do so and infect their computer in the process.
Thats it! All Microsoft needs to do is announce that if you install their patches, naked pictures of Jennifer Lopez will be automatically uploaded to the user's machine. There will never be security problems again!
If death stopped being inevitable, then the rich and powerful would be the first ones to get that technology...Finding and killing the methuselas would become an obscession for anyone who wanted to change things for the better
Hey, wasn't that the plot of Zardoz?
unless of course said hacker's software was written by some one who thought no one could be that dumb...and started at 0000001.
Seems to me like it worked, since the missiles were never actually launched...
I learned (and still remember) more about history from all the historical fiction books I've read than I ever will from history classes.
I learned a lot about the 20th century from Our Dumb Centry by The Onion. No joke, you can really get a fairly decent overview from the satire. The moon landing story is especially funny.
Heh - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- A.C.C.
I knew some Albanian refugees who came to the States. My wife took them shopping at the grocery to show them how to do it. She had to get some cash, so she went to the ATM and got some out. The Albanians stared in disbelief as she simply removed cash from a machine to buy goods. It had to be explained to them that it was her money from the bank.
I had this idea that in the future that vechicles would be driven on a rental basis. Any person could simply get into any car and start driving it because their tag would dock them the money it cost to use it as long as they were driving it. To the observer from our era, it would look as if the person was stealing the car!
the idea that staying on a path and killing an animal that's about to die would change nothing but simply stepping off the path would alter things doesn't hold water. Any intrusion into the environment is almost guaranteed to change things.
That being said, it's still a great story.
I agree with your logic entirely, and that is exactly why I found this story to be poorly made. This and other Bradbury stories irritate me to no end because of their lack of logic and silly premises. Just the idea that these hunting expeditions would be allowed to occur in the first place when the potential for harm is so great, makes this, to me, one of the dumbest stories ever written.
I'm not dissing anyone for liking these stores. They are only stories after all, but I personally cannot abide this kind of sloppy reasoning. I'm glad Bradbury isn't in charge of a scientific organization.
Are you trolling or do you really believe that the fundamental idea of open source (not to be confused with free) software is too good to be true?
Actually I meant the opposite point. My post said that my experience with Open source software was that it seemed too good to be true, but it turns out as advertised (i.e. both open and good - and often free). You mentioned the adage if it seems too good to be true, then it is usually not, but in the case of open source software, the adage does not apply.
Sorry my logic was confusing.
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
I can't say that I have found that to be so with open source software.
http://www.spybot.info . That's all it takes. Have it run on people's windows startup and they're set.
Well I got Spybot and ran it on a friend's XP machine that was really messed up (ads popping up during idle time, ran slow, etc.). I ran it on his wife's account and it found a bunch of stuff, which I eliminated. Then I ran it on his account, and it found a bunch more stuff- what the heck? Do you have to run it on every account!? Anyway the machine still ran slow.
Then, I updated Spybot with its own mechanism. I ran it and it hung halfway thru the process. Then I rebooted, ran it again, and it hung again.
I'm no dummy but I'm new at this spyware removal thing and I cannot seem to get it right. This seems a very serious problem for the entire planet right now. Thank God I use Macs at home.
I blame Pepsi's rather lackluster promotion efforts in part (a brief, off-handed mention in a commercial that ran once during the superbowl).
I saw the same ad several times after the superbowl and as late as last week. I only won one song however and that was from a discarded cap that my son found in the street. I'm a Coke drinker and I wasn't about to switch to a drink I didn't like for a 1/3rd chance to win a free 99cent song.
While not perfect, I could live with that outcome.
On one level I agree with you, it's likely that people who would never buy these products would be the ones most likely to filter. Therefore, even a spammer could find this an acceptable solution.
But there is also the issue of spam blocked at the ISP, which the spammers would never go for because they won't reach their intended audience. But maybe the ISPs will agree not to block if the address is not spoofed?
As I said, it's naturally occurring if you don't consider cultural influence.
Who is to say that the decline in birthrate for certain societies is not also culturally influenced? You were the one who mentioned studies but the only study I ever heard of was that birthrates go down in societies as income rises. That's a far cry from the seemingly biological (i.e. naturally occurring) reason you give.
In metropolitan areas like NYC fewer couples have children. Studies have shown it's a natually occurring phenomenon without any conscious decisions being made.
Yeah, and in metropolitan areas like Mexico city the birth rate doesn't slow down at all. Neither does it in Jakarta or New Delhi. What the heck kind of studies are you talking about? In China they had to mandate lower birth rates.
Instead he killed them through trickery and without -direct- evidence of their plans. Doing so made him the dark hero who was able to strike first when in jeopardy and left questions going long afterwards about whether he was "right" or whether he was presumptuous.
Sounds like a certain president I know.
It's ok, my karma will cover the loss
I don't see a compelling reason for the existance of this "upgrade" other than to feed the M$ coffers and lock in a steady revenue stream for them.
Do you have the same feeling that I do, that other computer OS vendors enjoy putting more useful features into their OS? Hell, they even seem to enjoy the frivilous ones. Its like they care about the end users and moving technology forward. But Microsoft just doesn't care about anything but their revenue? It's just so frustrating. We could live in such a better world than we do, you know?
I'm not saying the others aren't in it for the money too, everyone's gotta eat, but the quality of motivation just seems different to me.
Yes but when global seas cooling happens because people are bleeding off all the tidal energy and we are all thrown into a new ice age, people will regret all this.
Sign the Glasgow Global Cooling Treaty now!