Why do you want to give up that fancy car of yours for? Why do you want to give up your freedom? By voting for Gore, you are voting for an environmental goof ball who thinks that the internal combustion engine should be outlawed. And if he can't do that, then he'll overtax gasoline so that no one can afford it. But of course he is special so he'll still travel in his gas powered limos, with a bunch of 4X4's, motorcycles, and police cars to get to the airport to fly on a jet, all spewing the pollutants that he so objects too.
Also, he will take away our rights to own guns. But don't worry, his calvary of secret service guys will have guns to protect him. If he wants guns gone so badly, he should not allow those around him to own or use them. Lead by example.
And please, when posting news, don't editorialize. It just baits those that like to cause you trouble. It makes you look like the lead troll around here.
Vice President Gore, if President Milosevic of Yugoslavia refuses to accept the election results and leave office, what action, if any, should the United States take to get him out of there?
GORE: Well, Milosevic has lost the election. His opponent, has won the election. It's overwhelming. Milosevic's government refuses to release the vote count.There's now a general strike going on. They're demonstrating.
I think we should support the people of Serbia and the --Yugoslavia, as they call Serbia plus Montenegro, and put pressure in every way possible to recognize the lawful outcome of the election.
Now the above is from Gore himself during one of the debates. If you change Serbia to USA, Milosevic to Gore, and Kostunica to Bush, doesn't this sound like Gore is doing excatly what Milosevic had done? The lawful outcome of the election has come to pass, so Gore should be a man, admit that he has lost, and support our new President, George W. Bush.
Put the election on the internet. Let it get hacked by forgien countries and let them decide our fate. We can't even keep the White House's web site safe.
Also, I belive that anyone with dual citizenship should not be allowed to vote due to conflicting loyalties.
For creating basic, standards-compliant pages it is one of the easiest tools I have come across. If you want/need non-standard html design, this is not the tool for you.
I'll have to use my Palm to inventory my home to give to the insurance people. Then, if there is a fire, I won't be able to claim those armani suits, two PS2's (value $1500 ea, per ebay:), the Big Screen TV, the Picasso, my 5 desktops, my 7 laptops, etc...
And so should you. You are plagerizing by not directly citing the source of your material. I mean, a link to the article is good and all, but if you are using quotes from the article in your comments, you should say that. When I first saw this article earlier, I could not get to the linked site. I thought that what you wrote was yours. I could not get to the other site to see what they had written.
I am not bashing you here Jon, honestly. The way I read your article, I thought it was all you. I had no way to see the original.
Interesting lecture from an anonymous poster accusing someone (falsely) of a serious offense.
Main Entry: plagiarize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -rizing
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) asone's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
- plagiarizer noun
The above was quoted from Jon's message and www.webster.com.
He entered the contest. He won. Then he refuesed it. In my high school we had a runner-up. What happened to thiers? When I didn't agree with something I didn't participate. I took a stand at school in my english class. The teacher wanted us to study bible stories as literature. I had no problem with this. What I did have a problem with was that we "only" had one week for this. By Wednesday we had done all old testament stories. I asked when we would get to the new testament. I was told was we didn't have time for those stories. After discussing this a bit I asked his religion. He is Jewish. This is where my problem came into play. After about five more minutes of discussion I was sent to the prinipal's office for disrupting the class. After missing two more classes over this I was sent back to class.
The next day our teacher said that that portion of our class would end (looking dead at me) due to a student's complaint. Later that year I got a 0 on my term paper becouse "it wasn't turned in". This was after getting the three students in front of me to confirm that it had been passed up. I made them note that it was in the pile due to concerns I had that the teacher disliked me.
I wound up in summer school that year for failing english.
My point after all of that. If you are going to take a stand, you have to be prepared for the consiquences.
I would belive that it is linux or freeBSD and not some other *nix simply due to the cost factor. Think about the licencing fees they'll save for the set.
And just think of the geeks that they'll get to watch it just to see what it is like to see Linux on TV.
I watched it simply becouse it was a new show that was on and wanted to see how they would describe the "hacker" scene. My GF wanted to watch it becouse it "looks cool". After watching it, I think it has potential, but have already explained to my GF what was going to happen in the ep's to come. And, as soon as I saw the medalion I knew what was coming with that plot line.
You do realize that you have a duty to get her out of AOhell, don't you?
Yes, I do realize this. But the problem is that she enjoys the friends that she has made in a few chat rooms and continues to talk to them. Outside of that, she does everything else on the net with normal tools like Netscape and such.
And I hope that it is around for a while. I hope that it becomes more lightweight like Gnome is though. KDE takes twice as long, at least, to load on my machine over Gnome with no real advantages that I can see, other than pure ease of use. But once configured to my liking, Gnome is far better and easier. When I get my GF running a Linux box (after the Linux AOL client is availible) I'll probably set it up with KDE for her.
This is what is wonderful about freesoftware. I have a choice and can try things out cheaply:)
P.S. This is not a troll post. Just my personal feelings.
My friend's daughter wants a scooter with wheels for christmas. I don't know if we will get it for her or not, due to her age and the dangers of riding in the street(where she will inevitably ride it). Don't tell me that this time next year we will be discussing the safety of her getting one of these scooters for christmas.....
We can make it livable. If we belive what Gore says about global warming, all we would have to do to warm it up is put some cars and factories on the planet and we can globally warm it!
On July 8th, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with five aliens aboard crashed on a sheep and cattle ranch outside Roswell, NM, an incident reportedly covered by the military.
On March 31st, 1948, almost exactly nine months after that day, Al Gore was born.
The basic problem is that people are human. Everyone wants to say "I wrote that program that everyone is using". I started the revolution and the rest of you are just riding my coat tails. Personally, I think that we have too many ICQ clones. How many ways can you make it work? And with good skin coding, you can get any look and feel you want.
As for text editors, that is a holy war that I won't get into, but I personally use about a dozen different ones depending on the platform (win or linux) and what I am editing at the moment.
I was there "listening" to what was being said. What I got out of the chat was this:
CmdrTaco and Hemos like doing what they are doing but are sick of getting bashed at every turn. Well while I don't think they should be bashed as much as they are, I see where it comes from. Slashdot has changed from what it started out as. Those that have been around for years have one idea of what Slashdot should be. The new comers have a different idea of what Slashdot is.
So people have a few choices.
1. Make a site to be what you want it to be. If you like the look and feel of Slashdot, use Slashcode. If you don't, make your own.
2. Make suggestions. If they are good and possible, they will be implemented. If they are not implemented, see #1. "taco is a fag" is not a suggestion.
3. Accept what Slashdot is. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to type http://slashdot.org. Find somewhere else that has what you want or see #1.
4. Don't bash the guys for being succusful. They worked hard for what they got. We helped alot but with them making donations to EFF and the like, I think that is thier payback to us.
Now taking my own advice on #2, I would like to suggest a complaint section on Slashdot. Now the first thing that will happen to it will be abuse. This can be handled by moderation down to -1. Maybe come up with a script to delete 0's and -1's once a week or something, and others after 1 month. That way everone has time to view what is posted there, at whatever moderation level, and we can comment on them. Taco, Hemos and the rest can see what is being said and the arguments for and against. Maybe we can change thier minds on some things.
The point of the article is not RPM vs. APT, or this distro vs. that one.
It seems to be more about the arguement that we have all been hearing about more and more over the last year to two years. Standards, as far as where config files, binaries, libraries, etc reside.
I have read many of the arguments for both side and I still don't fully comprehend why standards cannot be implemented.
If it comes down to "this one uses a foo style, and that one uses a bar style" well why can't those styles have a standard way of doing things. If everyone that used the foo style put thier scripts in the same place it would make all our lives easier when helping each other out with problems.
This book, as Jon stated, is in it's third printing. Which means it has been out for a while. In the first paragraph of the actual review he calls it "sexy...new book" The second paragraph says "It's haunting and long overdue". Well perhaps if you were better read it would not be new and overdue to you. Or perhaps you just needed to justify having cybersex with someone, I don't know.
The ultimate erotisism for many people is intelligence and being able to express yourself. Over the net, for most people, words are all you have. The better and clearer you can make yourself understood the more attractive people will find you sight unseen.
This is the medium that my girlfriend and I met on several years ago. And we both agree that we would not have given the other much of a chance if we met face to face first.
We are in a field where we get paid,rather well, to be problem solvers. In today's world if the computer isn't working, it is a problem. When John Doe's desktop stops working, real problem or DSO problem, John cannot work until it is fixed or he gets a loaner.
When a server goes down(in smaller operations), everyone stops working until we get it fixed. This is a serious problem for the company.
With the projects management puts on us, it is generally due to unrealistic goals that we burn ourselves out over it. There are two basic situations:
1. Management says this has to be done by this date. They dont' realize it is not realisticly possible becouse we don't tell them. We just say okay, no problem. Then we take it as a personal challenge to meet thier unrealistic goal.
2. Management says get this done by this date and we do becouse we have a family to take care of.
What we have to do is make a stand when they get out of control. We did this at my work not too long ago. While it has not been a long time since, we have seen them pulling us in and listening when they make decisions. Also, they have been "forcing" us out the door at reasonable times to have time with our family and friends. I have already heard comments that we don't seem as disgruntled now as we did before. Also they are commenting that we are doing better work in the time that we are there.
It's amazing what happens when you find that there is life outside of the cubicles that wall you in during the day...
The only thing that makes this a little curious is that both posts were made within minutes of each other. Both sites are invested in by VA. It just looks too strange.....
Slashdot Mirror
Why do you want to give up that fancy car of yours for? Why do you want to give up your freedom? By voting for Gore, you are voting for an environmental goof ball who thinks that the internal combustion engine should be outlawed. And if he can't do that, then he'll overtax gasoline so that no one can afford it. But of course he is special so he'll still travel in his gas powered limos, with a bunch of 4X4's, motorcycles, and police cars to get to the airport to fly on a jet, all spewing the pollutants that he so objects too.
Also, he will take away our rights to own guns. But don't worry, his calvary of secret service guys will have guns to protect him. If he wants guns gone so badly, he should not allow those around him to own or use them. Lead by example.
And please, when posting news, don't editorialize. It just baits those that like to cause you trouble. It makes you look like the lead troll around here.
Vice President Gore, if President Milosevic of Yugoslavia refuses to accept the election results and leave office, what action, if any, should the United States take to get him out of there?
GORE: Well, Milosevic has lost the election. His opponent, has won the election. It's overwhelming. Milosevic's government refuses to release the vote count.There's now a general strike going on. They're demonstrating.
I think we should support the people of Serbia and the --Yugoslavia, as they call Serbia plus Montenegro, and put pressure in every way possible to recognize the lawful outcome of the election.
Now the above is from Gore himself during one of the debates. If you change Serbia to USA, Milosevic to Gore, and Kostunica to Bush, doesn't this sound like Gore is doing excatly what Milosevic had done? The lawful outcome of the election has come to pass, so Gore should be a man, admit that he has lost, and support our new President, George W. Bush.
"The Man" is making them change to a more modern system. I say we all call the manufacturer and complain!!!
Put the election on the internet. Let it get hacked by forgien countries and let them decide our fate. We can't even keep the White House's web site safe. Also, I belive that anyone with dual citizenship should not be allowed to vote due to conflicting loyalties.
For creating basic, standards-compliant pages it is one of the easiest tools I have come across. If you want/need non-standard html design, this is not the tool for you.
I'll have to use my Palm to inventory my home to give to the insurance people. Then, if there is a fire, I won't be able to claim those armani suits, two PS2's (value $1500 ea, per ebay:), the Big Screen TV, the Picasso, my 5 desktops, my 7 laptops, etc...
And so should you. You are plagerizing by not directly citing the source of your material. I mean, a link to the article is good and all, but if you are using quotes from the article in your comments, you should say that. When I first saw this article earlier, I could not get to the linked site. I thought that what you wrote was yours. I could not get to the other site to see what they had written.
I am not bashing you here Jon, honestly. The way I read your article, I thought it was all you. I had no way to see the original.
Main Entry: plagiarize
Pronunciation: 'plA-j&-"rIz also -jE-&-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -rized; -rizing
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
transitive senses : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) asone's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
- plagiarizer noun
The above was quoted from Jon's message and www.webster.com.
He entered the contest. He won. Then he refuesed it. In my high school we had a runner-up. What happened to thiers? When I didn't agree with something I didn't participate. I took a stand at school in my english class. The teacher wanted us to study bible stories as literature. I had no problem with this. What I did have a problem with was that we "only" had one week for this. By Wednesday we had done all old testament stories. I asked when we would get to the new testament. I was told was we didn't have time for those stories. After discussing this a bit I asked his religion. He is Jewish. This is where my problem came into play. After about five more minutes of discussion I was sent to the prinipal's office for disrupting the class. After missing two more classes over this I was sent back to class.
The next day our teacher said that that portion of our class would end (looking dead at me) due to a student's complaint. Later that year I got a 0 on my term paper becouse "it wasn't turned in". This was after getting the three students in front of me to confirm that it had been passed up. I made them note that it was in the pile due to concerns I had that the teacher disliked me.
I wound up in summer school that year for failing english.
My point after all of that. If you are going to take a stand, you have to be prepared for the consiquences.
I would belive that it is linux or freeBSD and not some other *nix simply due to the cost factor. Think about the licencing fees they'll save for the set.
And just think of the geeks that they'll get to watch it just to see what it is like to see Linux on TV.
I watched it simply becouse it was a new show that was on and wanted to see how they would describe the "hacker" scene. My GF wanted to watch it becouse it "looks cool". After watching it, I think it has potential, but have already explained to my GF what was going to happen in the ep's to come. And, as soon as I saw the medalion I knew what was coming with that plot line.
network for ~10 bucks a month
Yeah, I have a cablemodem that she uses to connect, when her friends are in town they hate us due to the speed she has....
Thanks for the info, from what I can tell I do have exception handling built in. I'll give this a shot and we'll see what happens.
Yes, I do realize this. But the problem is that she enjoys the friends that she has made in a few chat rooms and continues to talk to them. Outside of that, she does everything else on the net with normal tools like Netscape and such.
And I hope that it is around for a while. I hope that it becomes more lightweight like Gnome is though. KDE takes twice as long, at least, to load on my machine over Gnome with no real advantages that I can see, other than pure ease of use. But once configured to my liking, Gnome is far better and easier. When I get my GF running a Linux box (after the Linux AOL client is availible) I'll probably set it up with KDE for her.
This is what is wonderful about freesoftware. I have a choice and can try things out cheaply:)
P.S. This is not a troll post. Just my personal feelings.
My friend's daughter wants a scooter with wheels for christmas. I don't know if we will get it for her or not, due to her age and the dangers of riding in the street(where she will inevitably ride it). Don't tell me that this time next year we will be discussing the safety of her getting one of these scooters for christmas.....
We can make it livable. If we belive what Gore says about global warming, all we would have to do to warm it up is put some cars and factories on the planet and we can globally warm it!
On July 8th, 1947, witnesses claim a spaceship with five aliens aboard crashed on a sheep and cattle ranch outside Roswell, NM, an incident reportedly covered by the military.
On March 31st, 1948, almost exactly nine months after that day, Al Gore was born.
That clears up a lot of things.
The basic problem is that people are human. Everyone wants to say "I wrote that program that everyone is using". I started the revolution and the rest of you are just riding my coat tails. Personally, I think that we have too many ICQ clones. How many ways can you make it work? And with good skin coding, you can get any look and feel you want.
As for text editors, that is a holy war that I won't get into, but I personally use about a dozen different ones depending on the platform (win or linux) and what I am editing at the moment.
This looks like it could be alot of fun to build. Of course, the first thing I will have to do is build the gizmo to program it.
Lots to learn=Lots of fun=Lots of free time taken up:(
I was there "listening" to what was being said. What I got out of the chat was this:
CmdrTaco and Hemos like doing what they are doing but are sick of getting bashed at every turn. Well while I don't think they should be bashed as much as they are, I see where it comes from. Slashdot has changed from what it started out as. Those that have been around for years have one idea of what Slashdot should be. The new comers have a different idea of what Slashdot is.
So people have a few choices.
1. Make a site to be what you want it to be. If you like the look and feel of Slashdot, use Slashcode. If you don't, make your own.
2. Make suggestions. If they are good and possible, they will be implemented. If they are not implemented, see #1. "taco is a fag" is not a suggestion.
3. Accept what Slashdot is. If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to type http://slashdot.org. Find somewhere else that has what you want or see #1.
4. Don't bash the guys for being succusful. They worked hard for what they got. We helped alot but with them making donations to EFF and the like, I think that is thier payback to us.
Now taking my own advice on #2, I would like to suggest a complaint section on Slashdot. Now the first thing that will happen to it will be abuse. This can be handled by moderation down to -1. Maybe come up with a script to delete 0's and -1's once a week or something, and others after 1 month. That way everone has time to view what is posted there, at whatever moderation level, and we can comment on them. Taco, Hemos and the rest can see what is being said and the arguments for and against. Maybe we can change thier minds on some things.
Duncan
The point of the article is not RPM vs. APT, or this distro vs. that one.
It seems to be more about the arguement that we have all been hearing about more and more over the last year to two years. Standards, as far as where config files, binaries, libraries, etc reside.
I have read many of the arguments for both side and I still don't fully comprehend why standards cannot be implemented.
If it comes down to "this one uses a foo style, and that one uses a bar style" well why can't those styles have a standard way of doing things. If everyone that used the foo style put thier scripts in the same place it would make all our lives easier when helping each other out with problems.
This book, as Jon stated, is in it's third printing. Which means it has been out for a while. In the first paragraph of the actual review he calls it "sexy...new book" The second paragraph says "It's haunting and long overdue". Well perhaps if you were better read it would not be new and overdue to you. Or perhaps you just needed to justify having cybersex with someone, I don't know.
The ultimate erotisism for many people is intelligence and being able to express yourself. Over the net, for most people, words are all you have. The better and clearer you can make yourself understood the more attractive people will find you sight unseen.
This is the medium that my girlfriend and I met on several years ago. And we both agree that we would not have given the other much of a chance if we met face to face first.
We are in a field where we get paid,rather well, to be problem solvers. In today's world if the computer isn't working, it is a problem. When John Doe's desktop stops working, real problem or DSO problem, John cannot work until it is fixed or he gets a loaner.
When a server goes down(in smaller operations), everyone stops working until we get it fixed. This is a serious problem for the company.
With the projects management puts on us, it is generally due to unrealistic goals that we burn ourselves out over it. There are two basic situations:
1. Management says this has to be done by this date. They dont' realize it is not realisticly possible becouse we don't tell them. We just say okay, no problem. Then we take it as a personal challenge to meet thier unrealistic goal.
2. Management says get this done by this date and we do becouse we have a family to take care of.
What we have to do is make a stand when they get out of control. We did this at my work not too long ago. While it has not been a long time since, we have seen them pulling us in and listening when they make decisions. Also, they have been "forcing" us out the door at reasonable times to have time with our family and friends. I have already heard comments that we don't seem as disgruntled now as we did before. Also they are commenting that we are doing better work in the time that we are there.
It's amazing what happens when you find that there is life outside of the cubicles that wall you in during the day...
The only thing that makes this a little curious is that both posts were made within minutes of each other. Both sites are invested in by VA. It just looks too strange.....
for a group that relies on Microsoft products primarily, this does not surprise me.