Does anyone remember the cracks done by Hex with AOMaster? Those always made life more interesting until there was no challenge in it anymore. AOL is almost to the point where I would sign back up just to give me something to fuck around with on the other end of the phone line...:)
OK, AOL, is K-Rad ph0r d4 SkrIpt KiDDi3z and all. For anything even remotely more serious you will be forced to sign up with an ISP. I still remember when AOL would scare people away from ISPs by saying [when you tried to leave the service] "Do you have a working knowledge of how to setup IP addresses, POP accounts, IMAP, FTP, HTTPD, Gopher, and Newgroups?" and would go on in this manner until you either hung up ( and didn't get your service cancelled ) said "Yes." ( and didn't get your service cancelled ) or cursed at them ( and didn't get your service cancelled). AOL, go figure.
I somewhat agree, but internal shielding is kind of a moot point, as the Van Eck would still pick it up. All internal shielding is good for is blocking out *major* interference present on radios and televisions. Viewsonic monitors are bad as hell, though. I'm got a G810. 21" of pure sweetness.
If I remember correctly, Linux has a fat, happy penguin as a mascot. FreeBSD has a fat, happy, "daemon" as a mascot.
Now, I know, when I'm wearing my black cape and black make-up, whilst walking around with a severed goat-head on my back is when God-Groupies come up to me and ask "Are you saved?" (and every time, I hold up my horned hand and yell "Yes!")
And this is what strikes me as odd...
Wouldn't the Christians want to assimilate the BSD-ers into the "flock" because of the "demonic" logo? I mean Chu.., er, Beastie seems happy enough. Maybe that's just because he's happy about the amount of souls he's just harvested.
Damn, me and my big mouth. Now, in a week, we'll see pointers to the new FreeG.O.D. O/S. What have I done?
(b). Your mac was sheilded, since it was FCC approved. RF doesn't leak from sheilded boxes.
*Errrrrrnt!*
The only way to truly eliminate RF from leaking out of a box it to throw $10,000 into TEMPEST grade casing which protects against RF leakage.
The reason someone would want to blow $10,000 on something as goofy as that lies in a method of snooping using a Van Eck Reciever. A Van Eck Reciever is used to collect pulses coming from your computer (or its monitor) and displays them on a screen or in another readable/recordable format.
Obviously, this could be hazardous to national security when every Tom, Dick, and Harry can set up a Van Eck snooper. Right now, this has yet to happen, but when it does, TEMPEST grade cases will be seen everywhere.
The FCC rating simply means that a device will not cause unwanted interference with another device. The Van Eck device looks for that interference, and if you're in range, finds it.
I would suggest the Slashdotters out there perform this test: Take an old monitor (I know you have a few) and place it near a TV. Use a program to put up some colors/lines/shapes on the screen and tune to channel 1, 2, or 3. You should be able to make out a faint outline of what's on the screen next to you.
Dr. Linus Torvalds sounds *really* cool, and I believe he deserves it, but I find these kind of things annoying. When a person works to achieve a level high enough to earn a Dr. in front of their name, they should be recognized for that. Linus Torvalds is best known for one thing. Linux. And though Linux rocks beyond belief, he shouldn't be getting the same recognition as someone who has worked to get a college degree. The two activities are not comparable.
I realize that one would think home movies are just video. Audio is a HUGE part of creating a relevant memory as well. Use a good microphone to copy the audio tracks to MP3 format and put the film away safely. Vacuum packing would be IDEAL. Wait for a little while for good video capturing to come along.
I would REALLY recommend ignoring the comment on coping the movies to VHS. You'll be VERY unhappy with the quality. Use a friend's Beta or BetaMax setup. Try coping the film to Beta[Max] and taking to a college A/V room and using the RCA outs to copy your "stuff" into MPEG files through the best damn capture card you can find. And please, DON'T THROW AWAY THE ORIGINAL FILM!!! You'll want to smack yourself when the computer crashes, the back-ups are blank, and the Beta tape is missing.
Slashdotters-- It's been my belief that Apple doesn't do well with competition. For example, I remember the "Power Computing" cases where Apple managed to "show" that they had a copyright to anything remotely "Macintosh". This is one reason I was hesitant to believe in the stories that Apple had devoted site space to MkLinux. It doesn't seem to me that Apple is interested in open hardware, software, or standards for that matter.
I've secretly been lusting after a G[2-4] chip for a while now. I'm have yet to try LinuxPPC, but I have heard very good things from graphics artists and designers. This sounds to me to be a PowerPC UNIX box for cheap, a luxury which only the rich normally have available to them.
I sure hope no problems are run into by AMD, and I *really* hope AMD doesn't just put out chips that are merely poor mirror images of an existing chip.
I like AMD as much as the next guy, especially now, with the new processors available and impressive benchmarks galore. But, let's face it, most of us wouldn't have bought AMD if our lives depended on it a year or two ago.
I read a few comments from earier today. Is anyone still having problems with the Sync server, or should I mirror it now? Right now, I'm downloading it at 2.5k/sec. Errrgh. I don't think we should have given CmdrTaco access to Chris DiBona. I haven't listened to the whole show yet, but I have this awful feeling that the clan of Slashdot is going to cause bodily injury to Chris.
Ooooh, but they *are* talking about Corel Linux and Debian, which is quite interesting.
But they sure are laughing a lot. Go figure. This *is* Rob we're talking about.:)
And no, I'm not flaming Slashdot Radio. Slashdot radio, to me, is like M4D Un1X C0D3z to a Skr1Pt K1DDi3.
But, Rob, seriously, I think it's time to but *some* kind of link on the main page to the GiS show. Yes, the first two or three sucked, but the last few have really changed my mind about the whole thing. Geeks in Space belongs on the frontpage and, frankly, I don't care *who* doesn't like it. I'd like to see them go out and find a better Linux/Nanotech/Hardware/Software/Politically based web portal.
Frankly, I *had* to edit them. I'm just wondering why *they* didn't make a K00l naming scheme up *for* me.
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I'm apoligize to the moderators for the offtopic text, but the poster of the last message didn't give me any kind of e-mail address to reach her at. Please guys, don't kill my karma.
Has anyone else noticed the fact that the ID3 tags on the Slashdot Shows really suck? The artist went from "The Sync" to "Slashdot" and there was one with no ID3 tag at all. Why is this?
PICK SOMETHING and STICK WITH IT!
Or just give us more shows, which would keep me from shouting into the vast unknown of cyberspace.:)
I see you've posted this yesterday, so try again today. This isn't a commerical enterprise, so don't expect commerical uptime. The T-1 get paid for some months, and sometimes it doesn't.
We've seen things like this in the past. For some reason, it seems Corel thinks that the GPL is for all of the 15 year old kids putting software out from their basement. GPL? It obviouly doesn't apply to Corel because they're a *company* and everyone else is just a geek with a computer.
You haven't missed anything. All of the shows are archived at The Sync's Slashdot Radio Archives. They even have the 3.1 show (which makes some corrections to show #3). I can't begin to tell everyone how much MP3 radio makes my toes tingle. High quality, low file size, yummy.
Consider the following. An "ad trend" is created by a fairly decent ad-exec. An "ad trend" here being an advertising style which is imitated by many. Now, at this point we have a good number of trends to choose from. A computer is programmed with a simple database of NOTs. For example, if looking for an ad about a product for aging women, I'm *probably* not going to create an ad with three frogs on lilypads saying "Men", "O", and "Pause". With a simple list of "NOT"s one could have a machine render full ad schemes, simply by inputting the type of product to be advertised.
Is this creativity? Hell, no. The creative part was done by the human who firsted used style of advertising.
OK, the Amiga was *well* ahead of it's time. I would like the Amiga to be brought back with things like 3D acceleration, massive amounts of memory, better graphics resolution, et al. In fact, I believe that Amiga Inc. *could* start turning a buck again.
That being said, I originally liked the volume of Amiga stories that were being posted, but that was when the was real *news*. There shouldn't be too much to report on for a while, until Amiga starts realizing the promise that they made when they said they would be more open. I thought the last Amiga story was interesting, but this is just total fluff. I'm a *big* Amiga fan, but this is really bordering on unfounded bullsh*t.
I'm honestly not trying to start a thread of pure flaming with this, but it needs to be said better than, "D00Dz Th1$ i$ 0Ld Sh*T~!31323 Am1G4 SuX0rz!".
It's about time we start seeing Firewire in PCs. Though I'm normally not a big fan of Apple's (I sometimes like their hardware designs), I think Firewire is a technology superior to USB and SCSI. I really think this would make it an ideal hard drive interface for servers. I *did* hear that there were some licensing disputes that could make it obsolete before it becomes open, though. Does anyone know if there's any fault-tolerence in Firewire, or a Firewire hard drive for PCs, even?
Slashers-- Geeks in Space #6 wasn't that bad. It's kind of a hack-job, late night movie, MST3K thing. I actually kind of like it and I've downloaded all the episodes to date (and got #6 when it came out). Why is it that Geeks In Space in no longer getting posted to the main page. Now I've gotta check the "radio" link once or twice a week. Very annoying. From all of Slashdot, we appriciate the work you do, Rob, and the show is bitchin'. I'm hooked.
With more and more productive activity being performed over the Internet, I find it unfair to dream up an addiction for it. How much time did you spend at the library doing research for an account or a term paper? How much of that is now done over the Infobahn? How about shopping, chatting idly, watching porno flicks, e-mailing grandma, and getting your news? There is time being averted from these activities, yes, but the fact of the matter is, the time that was at first dedicated to these activites has not vanished, but has simply been displaced into a more productive ways of accomplishing the *SAME GOAL*.
It seems to me that this so called *addiction* is a side effect of the explosion of computer usage in the world. A husband and wife drift apart and the husband uses his hobby (in this case, computers) to get away from the rigors of everyday life with his spouse. Instead of making love to his wife, he's working on a whiz-bang Alpha Linux box. Does the spouse blame it on the computer itself? Sometimes. But the Internet would probably catch most flack. If you're like most hardcore computer users, you've got some kind of connection to the Internet within your grasp, most of the time. Voila, the blame is put on it.
And honestly, where would we be without it? Linux would have never come into existance. E-commerce, an ever growing strain of the business, would never come to be. Software would be traded in local user groups, the good stuff never getting outside the state it was made in. Without it, we would be in a much poorer state. And, I don't know about you, but most of my experience with people outside of the country (some with damn valid opinions) comes from the Internet.
I just picked up a slew of this kind of 3.5 inch CD media. It really kicks ass! I'm selling singles of one of my friend's track's on them. They're actually pretty cheap if you manage to find them (or a CD-R that will burn them). Damn cool. I remember seeing a fly-by-night teeny-bopper band putting out singles on this kind of media.
*Exactly*. Nobody's complaining about CD sizes. I can hold 50 or so in a case the size of a hardcover book. I'm kinda spoiled though. I'm a big fan of CDs now that CD-R drives are so commonplace. I really don't give a damn about these new CD's though, until there's some way to burn information onto them. There's a little piece of me that wouldn't mind having the entire TSX-11 and Sunsite archives on a disk along with the 12 or so distros out there and all kinds of packages that are just floating around. Damn. For that matter, someone could take *every* Linux kernel ever created and put it on one CD.
WTF is this? Was there even *one* person who didn't believe this was a scam? This is total bullshit; they don't even give you a physical location (that I saw).
The post about "scamming" NeXT cubes made me crack up though, as I used to do something similar (minus the scam). Key up a USENET session and say something to the effect of:
"I'm a student and I enjoy working with old computer hardware and software. Please get in touch with me via e-mail to get rid of that old box, and I would be more than happy to pay S&H."
That sure doesn't seem like to much of a scam to me. I've gotten 4 386's about 7 286's a TRS-80, a NeXT slab, two Mac Pluses ( one piece, B&W screen), and a top-of-the-line Pentium III machine that was throw out as *defective* at CompUSA. I got it home and found out the IDE cable on the hard drive was backward.
Slashdot Mirror
Does anyone remember the cracks done by Hex with AOMaster? Those always made life more interesting until there was no challenge in it anymore. AOL is almost to the point where I would sign back up just to give me something to fuck around with on the other end of the phone line... :)
OK, AOL, is K-Rad ph0r d4 SkrIpt KiDDi3z and all. For anything even remotely more serious you will be forced to sign up with an ISP. I still remember when AOL would scare people away from ISPs by saying [when you tried to leave the service] "Do you have a working knowledge of how to setup IP addresses, POP accounts, IMAP, FTP, HTTPD, Gopher, and Newgroups?" and would go on in this manner until you either hung up ( and didn't get your service cancelled ) said "Yes." ( and didn't get your service cancelled ) or cursed at them ( and didn't get your service cancelled). AOL, go figure.
I wanna see hardware/software specs and some code.
I *really* think this is a hoax of the highest order.
But hey, that's just me.
I somewhat agree, but internal shielding is kind of a moot point, as the Van Eck would still pick it up. All internal shielding is good for is blocking out *major* interference present on radios and televisions. Viewsonic monitors are bad as hell, though. I'm got a G810. 21" of pure sweetness.
Waittaminnit...
If I remember correctly, Linux has a fat, happy penguin as a mascot. FreeBSD has a fat, happy, "daemon" as a mascot.
Now, I know, when I'm wearing my black cape and black make-up, whilst walking around with a severed goat-head on my back is when God-Groupies come up to me and ask "Are you saved?" (and every time, I hold up my horned hand and yell "Yes!")
And this is what strikes me as odd...
Wouldn't the Christians want to assimilate the BSD-ers into the "flock" because of the "demonic" logo? I mean Chu.., er, Beastie seems happy enough. Maybe that's just because he's happy about the amount of souls he's just harvested.
Damn, me and my big mouth. Now, in a week, we'll see pointers to the new FreeG.O.D. O/S. What have I done?
*Errrrrrnt!*
The only way to truly eliminate RF from leaking out of a box it to throw $10,000 into TEMPEST grade casing which protects against RF leakage.
The reason someone would want to blow $10,000 on something as goofy as that lies in a method of snooping using a Van Eck Reciever. A Van Eck Reciever is used to collect pulses coming from your computer (or its monitor) and displays them on a screen or in another readable/recordable format.
Obviously, this could be hazardous to national security when every Tom, Dick, and Harry can set up a Van Eck snooper. Right now, this has yet to happen, but when it does, TEMPEST grade cases will be seen everywhere.
The FCC rating simply means that a device will not cause unwanted interference with another device. The Van Eck device looks for that interference, and if you're in range, finds it.
I would suggest the Slashdotters out there perform this test: Take an old monitor (I know you have a few) and place it near a TV. Use a program to put up some colors/lines/shapes on the screen and tune to channel 1, 2, or 3. You should be able to make out a faint outline of what's on the screen next to you.
Cheerio!
Dr. Linus Torvalds sounds *really* cool, and I believe he deserves it, but I find these kind of things annoying. When a person works to achieve a level high enough to earn a Dr. in front of their name, they should be recognized for that. Linus Torvalds is best known for one thing. Linux. And though Linux rocks beyond belief, he shouldn't be getting the same recognition as someone who has worked to get a college degree. The two activities are not comparable.
Linus deserves an award, but not this one.
I realize that one would think home movies are just video. Audio is a HUGE part of creating a relevant memory as well. Use a good microphone to copy the audio tracks to MP3 format and put the film away safely. Vacuum packing would be IDEAL. Wait for a little while for good video capturing to come along.
I would REALLY recommend ignoring the comment on coping the movies to VHS. You'll be VERY unhappy with the quality. Use a friend's Beta or BetaMax setup. Try coping the film to Beta[Max] and taking to a college A/V room and using the RCA outs to copy your "stuff" into MPEG files through the best damn capture card you can find. And please, DON'T THROW AWAY THE ORIGINAL FILM!!! You'll want to smack yourself when the computer crashes, the back-ups are blank, and the Beta tape is missing.
Slashdotters--
It's been my belief that Apple doesn't do well with competition. For example, I remember the "Power Computing" cases where Apple managed to "show" that they had a copyright to anything remotely "Macintosh". This is one reason I was hesitant to believe in the stories that Apple had devoted site space to MkLinux. It doesn't seem to me that Apple is interested in open hardware, software, or standards for that matter.
I've secretly been lusting after a G[2-4] chip for a while now. I'm have yet to try LinuxPPC, but I have heard very good things from graphics artists and designers. This sounds to me to be a PowerPC UNIX box for cheap, a luxury which only the rich normally have available to them.
I sure hope no problems are run into by AMD, and I *really* hope AMD doesn't just put out chips that are merely poor mirror images of an existing chip.
I like AMD as much as the next guy, especially now, with the new processors available and impressive benchmarks galore. But, let's face it, most of us wouldn't have bought AMD if our lives depended on it a year or two ago.
For now, long live the AMD G4.
I read a few comments from earier today. Is anyone still having problems with the Sync server, or should I mirror it now? Right now, I'm downloading it at 2.5k/sec. Errrgh. I don't think we should have given CmdrTaco access to Chris DiBona. I haven't listened to the whole show yet, but I have this awful feeling that the clan of Slashdot is going to cause bodily injury to Chris.
:)
Ooooh, but they *are* talking about Corel Linux and Debian, which is quite interesting.
But they sure are laughing a lot. Go figure. This *is* Rob we're talking about.
And no, I'm not flaming Slashdot Radio. Slashdot radio, to me, is like M4D Un1X C0D3z to a Skr1Pt K1DDi3.
But, Rob, seriously, I think it's time to but *some* kind of link on the main page to the GiS show. Yes, the first two or three sucked, but the last few have really changed my mind about the whole thing. Geeks in Space belongs on the frontpage and, frankly, I don't care *who* doesn't like it. I'd like to see them go out and find a better Linux/Nanotech/Hardware/Software/Politically based web portal.
Frankly, I *had* to edit them. I'm just wondering why *they* didn't make a K00l naming scheme up *for* me.
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I know how Tuesdays tend to be, I haven't made the last two meetings, and probably won't until the end of the academic semsester. Gimmie an e-mail address so I can subscribe you to the HRLUG list. Also, you might want to show up for the TWUUG meetings or the Penninsula Linux User's Group (PLUG) if you're anywhere near the Penninsula. TWUUG has damn fine meetings, with a full-blown conference room and projector for the advancement of Unix/Linux systems. Sometimes, you'll even see *real* UNIX boxen there. Sweet, eh?
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I'm apoligize to the moderators for the offtopic text, but the poster of the last message didn't give me any kind of e-mail address to reach her at. Please guys, don't kill my karma.
Has anyone else noticed the fact that the ID3 tags on the Slashdot Shows really suck? The artist went from "The Sync" to "Slashdot" and there was one with no ID3 tag at all. Why is this?
:)
PICK SOMETHING and STICK WITH IT!
Or just give us more shows, which would keep me from shouting into the vast unknown of cyberspace.
I see you've posted this yesterday, so try again today. This isn't a commerical enterprise, so don't expect commerical uptime. The T-1 get paid for some months, and sometimes it doesn't.
And trust me, I can relate.
We've seen things like this in the past. For some reason, it seems Corel thinks that the GPL is for all of the 15 year old kids putting software out from their basement. GPL? It obviouly doesn't apply to Corel because they're a *company* and everyone else is just a geek with a computer.
This is something we can't stand for.
You haven't missed anything. All of the shows are archived at The Sync's Slashdot Radio Archives. They even have the 3.1 show (which makes some corrections to show #3). I can't begin to tell everyone how much MP3 radio makes my toes tingle. High quality, low file size, yummy.
I don't know about you all, but I've had the ultimate V-Chip for years. It's call a "remote control".
Consider the following. An "ad trend" is created by a fairly decent ad-exec. An "ad trend" here being an advertising style which is imitated by many. Now, at this point we have a good number of trends to choose from. A computer is programmed with a simple database of NOTs. For example, if looking for an ad about a product for aging women, I'm *probably* not going to create an ad with three frogs on lilypads saying "Men", "O", and "Pause". With a simple list of "NOT"s one could have a machine render full ad schemes, simply by inputting the type of product to be advertised.
Is this creativity? Hell, no. The creative part was done by the human who firsted used style of advertising.
Is this the Microsoft "Frontpage" of advertising?
I hope not.
OK, the Amiga was *well* ahead of it's time. I would like the Amiga to be brought back with things like 3D acceleration, massive amounts of memory, better graphics resolution, et al. In fact, I believe that Amiga Inc. *could* start turning a buck again.
That being said, I originally liked the volume of Amiga stories that were being posted, but that was when the was real *news*. There shouldn't be too much to report on for a while, until Amiga starts realizing the promise that they made when they said they would be more open. I thought the last Amiga story was interesting, but this is just total fluff. I'm a *big* Amiga fan, but this is really bordering on unfounded bullsh*t.
I'm honestly not trying to start a thread of pure flaming with this, but it needs to be said better than, "D00Dz Th1$ i$ 0Ld Sh*T~!31323 Am1G4 SuX0rz!".
Sorry guys.
It's about time we start seeing Firewire in PCs. Though I'm normally not a big fan of Apple's (I sometimes like their hardware designs), I think Firewire is a technology superior to USB and SCSI. I really think this would make it an ideal hard drive interface for servers. I *did* hear that there were some licensing disputes that could make it obsolete before it becomes open, though. Does anyone know if there's any fault-tolerence in Firewire, or a Firewire hard drive for PCs, even?
Thanks.
Slashers--
Geeks in Space #6 wasn't that bad. It's kind of a hack-job, late night movie, MST3K thing. I actually kind of like it and I've downloaded all the episodes to date (and got #6 when it came out). Why is it that Geeks In Space in no longer getting posted to the main page. Now I've gotta check the "radio" link once or twice a week. Very annoying. From all of Slashdot, we appriciate the work you do, Rob, and the show is bitchin'. I'm hooked.
With more and more productive activity being performed over the Internet, I find it unfair to dream up an addiction for it. How much time did you spend at the library doing research for an account or a term paper? How much of that is now done over the Infobahn? How about shopping, chatting idly, watching porno flicks, e-mailing grandma, and getting your news? There is time being averted from these activities, yes, but the fact of the matter is, the time that was at first dedicated to these activites has not vanished, but has simply been displaced into a more productive ways of accomplishing the *SAME GOAL*.
It seems to me that this so called *addiction* is a side effect of the explosion of computer usage in the world. A husband and wife drift apart and the husband uses his hobby (in this case, computers) to get away from the rigors of everyday life with his spouse. Instead of making love to his wife, he's working on a whiz-bang Alpha Linux box. Does the spouse blame it on the computer itself? Sometimes. But the Internet would probably catch most flack. If you're like most hardcore computer users, you've got some kind of connection to the Internet within your grasp, most of the time. Voila, the blame is put on it.
And honestly, where would we be without it? Linux would have never come into existance. E-commerce, an ever growing strain of the business, would never come to be. Software would be traded in local user groups, the good stuff never getting outside the state it was made in. Without it, we would be in a much poorer state. And, I don't know about you, but most of my experience with people outside of the country (some with damn valid opinions) comes from the Internet.
Sorry for the term paper, guys.
I just picked up a slew of this kind of 3.5 inch CD media. It really kicks ass! I'm selling singles of one of my friend's track's on them. They're actually pretty cheap if you manage to find them (or a CD-R that will burn them). Damn cool. I remember seeing a fly-by-night teeny-bopper band putting out singles on this kind of media.
*Exactly*. Nobody's complaining about CD sizes. I can hold 50 or so in a case the size of a hardcover book. I'm kinda spoiled though. I'm a big fan of CDs now that CD-R drives are so commonplace. I really don't give a damn about these new CD's though, until there's some way to burn information onto them. There's a little piece of me that wouldn't mind having the entire TSX-11 and Sunsite archives on a disk along with the 12 or so distros out there and all kinds of packages that are just floating around. Damn. For that matter, someone could take *every* Linux kernel ever created and put it on one CD.
Yummy.
Why not make a normal sized CD that holds obsecene amounts of data? Now *that* I would like.
Would this be possible?
Second?
Slashdotters--
WTF is this? Was there even *one* person who didn't believe this was a scam? This is total bullshit; they don't even give you a physical location (that I saw).
The post about "scamming" NeXT cubes made me crack up though, as I used to do something similar (minus the scam). Key up a USENET session and say something to the effect of:
"I'm a student and I enjoy working with old computer hardware and software. Please get in touch with me via e-mail to get rid of that old box, and I would be more than happy to pay S&H."
That sure doesn't seem like to much of a scam to me. I've gotten 4 386's about 7 286's a TRS-80, a NeXT slab, two Mac Pluses ( one piece, B&W screen), and a top-of-the-line Pentium III machine that was throw out as *defective* at CompUSA. I got it home and found out the IDE cable on the hard drive was backward.
God, I love America.
--Dr. Ian