Just think about it: already the majority of land used by humans is dedicated to livestock, and is a leading cause of deforestation. You'd have to cut down even MORE forests to make room for what he's talking about. It's an utterly ridiculous concept, and if he had his way could be arguably as bad as his slaughter of elephants. This guy is a quack of the highest possible degree.
I'm with ya up until apologizing to NK.. Their leader is a really awful person, and even this isn't worthy of an apology for the most part - this is a drop in the bucket compared to how he runs his country and treats North Koreans. I agree there ought to be an apology tho: to the rest of the world for whipping this into such a ridiculous frenzy.
Riiiiiight.... This really illustrates the double standard and opposition to freedom of expression by Chinese leaders. Hollywood has had the US president appear as all sorts of unsavoury characters, from an utter buffoon to corrupt in numerous films and tv series. (As well as other Western allies, like the UK Prime Minister.) You don't see China complaining about that... It's not 'senseless cultural ignorance', it's just the sense of humour from a few writers. Maybe Chinese leaders should investigate their own senseless cultural ignorance too. Their wilful, state-enforced ignorance is just about as senseless as these films.
FYI, if an oil is certified organic, hexane won't have been used, nor any other chemical. It will be, as you described, oils from plants that are crushed and/or ground. This includes soy, canola, and other oils that one might normally want to avoid.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this an increase in the surface area of the solar cell..? Sure, some kind of pitting is going to be more effective at capturing rays (as one reader pointed out, sizing it for the red light of the sun) than a totally flat surface, assuming surface space is a factor in solar collection.. I imagine those minuscule pits would actually greatly increase the surface area of a disc.
Besides human health, why might we want to consider eliminating superfluous eggs from mayo and other foods? How much land is consumed by livestock in the US and globally? To satisfy the 'back yard' and 'free range' crowd, how much MORE space would be needed in order to supply the world's demand for eggs in these flavours? What sort of demand on resources do eggs and animal products consume, especially in comparison to plant foods? What is their estimated contribution to climate change? Can you compare the resource consumption of a jar of Just Mayo and Hellmann's Mayonnaise? (How much energy consumed, space usage, emissions, etc..) Same with your egg replacement, and equivalent amount of eggs?
They're not concerned about helping bears and other animals, they're concerned about making money. How can they honestly be concerned for bears when it's climate change, but not see how trophy hunting worsens the situation (where they supported Canada along with Green Peace of all groups in opposing the CITES proposal to ban the trade of polar bears, which was backed by many more groups, along with the US and Russia[in an unusual mutual agreement])? This group is such a fraud..
The U.S. and Russia, with the support of groups such as Humane Society International, the Natural Resources Defence Council and the International Fund for Animal Welfare, had argued that allowing Canada to continue trading in the bears was contributing to more hunting at a time when their sea ice habitat is shrinking because of climate change. The Russians added that the Canadian trade makes it easier for poachers in Russia by allowing them to disguise their kills as legal bears from Canada.
But Canada — along with Greenpeace, the World Wildlife Fund, influential scientific bodies and other NGOs — said the Canadian hunt is sustainable and that the real threat to the bears is from climate change, not trade.
Although the world sided with Canada this time, Derocher notes support is slipping.
Keeping animal captive and housed together is literally begging for worse and worse strains of diseases. Hoof and mouth, avian flu, mad cow.. Then we get stuff like e. coli from veggies, which isn't even from the plant: it's from the manure it's covered in. Adding antibiotics only accelerates the process. Yeehaw.
Or what about the original dam builders, beavers? They also 'destroy' a lot of habitat, which actually becomes very valuable wetlands... Not saying what we're doing is ideal, and our scale is usually much larger, but flooding is hardly a new experience for ecosystems..
Exactly - when you take away the trolls, whomever remaining is most 'troll-like' will then become the troll..the bigger question is 'can we really eliminate trolls', and 'what amount of trolling is tolerable'?
"Yeah, you've got to picture that you're on a ship at sea, and sometimes at a high sea state. You're picking up a 12-ton load, which becomes a wrecking ball if it gets out of control. It's stabilized by a bunch of tag lines going to wenches and so on."
Not sure now, but a few years ago the Sony reader had less restrictions than most (if that's what you're implying) - since it was able to read multiple formats, and no DRM requirements, i made it my choice, and we have 3 of them (different generations) in the house now. Will miss future iterations!
Here's a really incredible video on wolves, and their positive influence on Yellowstone National Park - doubtless we'll find that species have a much larger influence and impact that we assume, which makes sense that these systems all took millions of years to develop..it's not a haphazard configuration, most species depend on a number of others. Even in our bodies, look at the bacteria that inhabit us, and the influences we're finding they have on us....
Sure there is - for example, you can prevent death from being in an airplane crash by never boarding a plane. That risk is eliminated, not "delayed or accelerated". Smoking-related diseases can be prevented by not smoking, and avoiding exposure to smoke. In the same manner alcohol-related deaths can be prevented by not consuming alcohol.
Exposure to TSE/CJD is really a very big threat for medical facilities - it's hard to clean off surgical items, and so contamination can happen very quickly if it's not suspected..combine that with the fact they're not 100% certain how TSE/CJD spreads, and if it can spread from more than brain and spinal fluids..
In the name of sensitivity and good taste, why not try looking this sort of thing up before saying something both ignorant, and potentially hurtful?
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Savoury has been thoroughly debunked.
http://www.inexactchange.org/blog/2013/03/11/cows-against-climate-change/
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2014/aug/04/eat-more-meat-and-save-the-world-the-latest-implausible-farming-miracle
Just think about it: already the majority of land used by humans is dedicated to livestock, and is a leading cause of deforestation. You'd have to cut down even MORE forests to make room for what he's talking about. It's an utterly ridiculous concept, and if he had his way could be arguably as bad as his slaughter of elephants. This guy is a quack of the highest possible degree.
I'm with ya up until apologizing to NK.. Their leader is a really awful person, and even this isn't worthy of an apology for the most part - this is a drop in the bucket compared to how he runs his country and treats North Koreans. I agree there ought to be an apology tho: to the rest of the world for whipping this into such a ridiculous frenzy.
Maybe it was Nintendo? ^.^
Riiiiiight.... This really illustrates the double standard and opposition to freedom of expression by Chinese leaders. Hollywood has had the US president appear as all sorts of unsavoury characters, from an utter buffoon to corrupt in numerous films and tv series. (As well as other Western allies, like the UK Prime Minister.) You don't see China complaining about that... It's not 'senseless cultural ignorance', it's just the sense of humour from a few writers. Maybe Chinese leaders should investigate their own senseless cultural ignorance too. Their wilful, state-enforced ignorance is just about as senseless as these films.
Sure, i'm totally with you there. I just don't know what you plan to achieve 4 levels in on a post on /. ;)
*facepalm* It's obvious we're using commercial and food industry terms, not scientific terms. But this never grows old, so please keep it up.
Well said, nice to see someone else highlighting these facts! I've collected and shared few links and graphics that highlight this in an eye-opener of a blog post: http://blog.thevictoriavegan.com/2014/10/humane-meat-its-not-humane-for-nature.html
FYI, if an oil is certified organic, hexane won't have been used, nor any other chemical. It will be, as you described, oils from plants that are crushed and/or ground. This includes soy, canola, and other oils that one might normally want to avoid.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this an increase in the surface area of the solar cell..? Sure, some kind of pitting is going to be more effective at capturing rays (as one reader pointed out, sizing it for the red light of the sun) than a totally flat surface, assuming surface space is a factor in solar collection.. I imagine those minuscule pits would actually greatly increase the surface area of a disc.
Besides human health, why might we want to consider eliminating superfluous eggs from mayo and other foods? How much land is consumed by livestock in the US and globally? To satisfy the 'back yard' and 'free range' crowd, how much MORE space would be needed in order to supply the world's demand for eggs in these flavours? What sort of demand on resources do eggs and animal products consume, especially in comparison to plant foods? What is their estimated contribution to climate change? Can you compare the resource consumption of a jar of Just Mayo and Hellmann's Mayonnaise? (How much energy consumed, space usage, emissions, etc..) Same with your egg replacement, and equivalent amount of eggs?
Full disclosure - i'm already well aware of these things, and would implore readers interested in these matters to check out a blog post i wrote covering how much land livestock already consume...you will very likely be surprised: http://blog.thevictoriavegan.com/2014/10/humane-meat-its-not-humane-for-nature.html
Doing my rock'n'roll duty for the title.
This would be a very good topic for a documentary...any idea if there's already one on this? Or any articles you could recommend? Thanks for sharing!
Wondering if these same compounds, inside us after eating, would also enable fungal growth, leading to potential illness..? (Or superpowers? ;)
The U.S. and Russia, with the support of groups such as Humane Society International, the Natural Resources Defence Council and the International Fund for Animal Welfare, had argued that allowing Canada to continue trading in the bears was contributing to more hunting at a time when their sea ice habitat is shrinking because of climate change. The Russians added that the Canadian trade makes it easier for poachers in Russia by allowing them to disguise their kills as legal bears from Canada.
But Canada — along with Greenpeace, the World Wildlife Fund, influential scientific bodies and other NGOs — said the Canadian hunt is sustainable and that the real threat to the bears is from climate change, not trade.
Although the world sided with Canada this time, Derocher notes support is slipping.
From http://www.macleans.ca/news/inuit-scientists-say-defeat-on-polar-bear-trade-ban-not-final/
Keeping animal captive and housed together is literally begging for worse and worse strains of diseases. Hoof and mouth, avian flu, mad cow.. Then we get stuff like e. coli from veggies, which isn't even from the plant: it's from the manure it's covered in. Adding antibiotics only accelerates the process. Yeehaw.
Some beaver dams are actually quite big, the biggest is twice the size of the Hoover dam, and can be seen from space! =)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/7676300/Worlds-biggest-beaver-dam-can-be-seen-from-space.html
Or what about the original dam builders, beavers? They also 'destroy' a lot of habitat, which actually becomes very valuable wetlands... Not saying what we're doing is ideal, and our scale is usually much larger, but flooding is hardly a new experience for ecosystems..
Exactly - when you take away the trolls, whomever remaining is most 'troll-like' will then become the troll..the bigger question is 'can we really eliminate trolls', and 'what amount of trolling is tolerable'?
"Yeah, you've got to picture that you're on a ship at sea, and sometimes at a high sea state. You're picking up a 12-ton load, which becomes a wrecking ball if it gets out of control. It's stabilized by a bunch of tag lines going to wenches and so on."
You are as surprised as i was - it came as a shock to me that it was one of the least DRM'd readers out there!
Not sure now, but a few years ago the Sony reader had less restrictions than most (if that's what you're implying) - since it was able to read multiple formats, and no DRM requirements, i made it my choice, and we have 3 of them (different generations) in the house now. Will miss future iterations!
"It should help biologists more accurately model how disease spreads through herds of cattle and therefore better understand how to tackle epidemics."
For me, it would be 'it should give people second thought on what we're doing to our fellow earthlings'.
Here's a really incredible video on wolves, and their positive influence on Yellowstone National Park - doubtless we'll find that species have a much larger influence and impact that we assume, which makes sense that these systems all took millions of years to develop..it's not a haphazard configuration, most species depend on a number of others. Even in our bodies, look at the bacteria that inhabit us, and the influences we're finding they have on us....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q
Sure there is - for example, you can prevent death from being in an airplane crash by never boarding a plane. That risk is eliminated, not "delayed or accelerated". Smoking-related diseases can be prevented by not smoking, and avoiding exposure to smoke. In the same manner alcohol-related deaths can be prevented by not consuming alcohol.
That's a pretty rude and awful joke..
Exposure to TSE/CJD is really a very big threat for medical facilities - it's hard to clean off surgical items, and so contamination can happen very quickly if it's not suspected..combine that with the fact they're not 100% certain how TSE/CJD spreads, and if it can spread from more than brain and spinal fluids..
In the name of sensitivity and good taste, why not try looking this sort of thing up before saying something both ignorant, and potentially hurtful?