I agree mostly with what you are saying, but the point that (I believe this is the case (look at the changelogs, and there appear to be a bunch of people from samba.org) several of the people contribuiting to samba also contribute to the kernel, so infact, they have violated the GPL with some of the copyright holders.
That would be correct, and as one person who knew a lot about the caldera/microsoft case put it: they one a case that is in some respects (huge industry giant, etc) once, and they think they can do it again, but they really can't.
The Caldera/Microsoft suit dealt with drdos being able to compete with msdos ( a good summary is here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/02/07/schulman.html)
hmm... sounds like something incredibly easy to implement via samba on openvms (just a wrapper, because openvms does this. (frankly linux AND windows need to catch up to this feature, which is built-in, and limited only by disk space.
I just got back from a weekend retreat, but I have written a script/gui for doing this, and it works fine in production (where the people know what they are doing) but the setup is pretty automatic, and the gui (based on kommander (part of quanta atm)) allows a simple gui interface to the setup, which should all work, but as I said I need people to play with it and break things!
It should work for gentoo and redhat, atm.
sloppyadm.sourceforge.net if you are interested in helping.
Ummm...SCO IS Caldera, and Tarantula (sp?) is the old SCO who sold most of their UNIX stuff to Caldera, then changed their name. Caldera then changed their name to SCO and proceded to show why UNIX venders named SCO are not looked upon kindly.
I have gentoo on a laptop with a 5GB hd (p2-300) I have a 3.5GB / (some tiny/boot, and storage partition) of / only 3.1GB are used (home accounts for 200-300MB, (though it probably should be on a seperate partition.)
portage leaves stuff lying around, but in constant places./usr/portage/distfiles stores downloaded source packages, and/var/tmp/portage stores the build directories. if you don't care to have that laying around just do (rm -f/usr/portage/distfiles (-r is not a good idea as there is a cvs-src dir under there) and rm -rf/var/tmp/portage/*. This will free up some space (doing this on my laptop takes the usage down to 2.9GB)
Admittedly you will have the "-dev" stuff around, but just headers and such mostly, and by using USE flags, you should be able to eliminate any dependancies you don't need (for example: ldap, cups, samba, etc)
All depends on how you configure it (that goes for any distro, but gentoo is easier to configure than most in my experence)
Go ask IBM (Power4) or HP (PARISC) and be prepared to pay for it.
Theoretically IA-64 will be getting this (and I will believe it when I see one. (and given how Intel keeps it's IA-64 related schedules I'll say 2032 perhaps)
Damn Compaq for not letting us have alphas that way (The first mention of it being serious was alphas-just before compaq bought them and decided to milk the alpha users)
How many non-open-source applications are distributed by RedHat or the other Linux distributors? If RealAudio came out with a RealPlayer for Linux in binary form, would it get distributed in the various distributions? I doubt it.
Then you would be wrong, realplayer used to be distributed in some linux distros,I can directly recall that Caldera (and I seem to recall others) who bundled it. And as an example: netscape (pre-mozilla ver 4 era) was almost universally bundled.
And you can get real player for linux from their site (last I checked realone was beta for linux)>
Not that I like realplayer or netscape 4 (I was forced to use 4.79 for about 3.5 weeks while in Germany, which makes me like almost every browser I have used since then even better (mozilla, netscape6+, konq (ver 1x-current), IE5+, opera, links, elinks, lynx, even amaya:) (but not mosaic).)
Yes, I use it on my p2-300 (160MB RAM)laptop system, it runs very snappy. I generally use KDE on it and it's great. (Reminds me of a faster RedHat system or a Much faster Windows system.)
I am now in the process of building everything with it (O3 does little more than -finline-functions, (and I other thng I can't recall over the top of my head) over O2, and Os is O2 minus a few that bloat code size, and some optimizations to make it smaller. Which means less cache misses hopefully, and possibly faster. (It certainly feels faster than a p2-400 I have used with O3)
It should be just the same. OPIE is a fork of Qtopia (QT/Embedded... many other names), and one of the goals is binary compatibility. I believe that OpenZaurus (which primarily uses OPIE) has the same package as qtopia, probably a bit newer and built from source.
prelink can help with this. google for it and you should find out about it or look on gentoo.org under the docs section. Prelink support is built into portage:)
Disabling SSID essentially only means that 100% listeners can't see it if someone isn't using it. However if someone is, then they can. SSID and WEP really have some big security holes. IPsec is very good compared to it. For SSID, if someone sees you (re)connect once it's lost, and can lead to breaking wep quite easily.
Mulit-function: I have a zaurus, I have a mp3-cd player I used to use, now I use the zaurus. The Zaurus (one of the most expandable, and when it was released, nothing in the price range was as expandable with sd for memory and cf for any cf card) replaced the mp3-cd because the 128MB cf cards are easy to carry around. The cd player relatively is not, and it only does one thing. The CF cards while compared to the hard drives, are multi-function. Video, on the zaurus looks quite good, and using mplayer (which was the first available mpeg4 player on Z (first on there by me (plus all the mplayer & ffmpeg coders, now by others (Denes)) and they fit on the CF. The problem with the hard drive is that it's non-removable, and it eats up battery life compared to flash. The ipod has a pretty low power, non-powerful processor in it, and a low power simple display. Even with say sharp's new lcd technology, and a very low power proc, those two things eat a large amount of battery, and I suspect that to have the hard drive and anything worthwhile in terms of battery life you would need something the size of a brick, at least. Especially when viewing video (depending on things, a Zaurus 5500 may get 1-2 hours on video)
He actually proposed a bill that would have meant that everyone would get broadband Senate bill S. 1126.
his contributions to legislation
He seems to be quite good, and in many ways opposite certain cenators such as Hollings. (doesn't mean I think hes the greatest at all, but from our evolution-not-required state, certainly beats some states.)
You might want to check out an admin script, which works and is used for doing all sorts of things (CUPS, ldap, samba, updating, and firewalls*) at sloppyadm.sourceforge.net or the project page I have written most of it, and would be happy to have contributions/bugreports/etc:)
The setup is being worked on as is a kommander based GUI (using ssh, so it can be run on a workstation)
Unfortunately, the machine I usually work on it on is out for the momement (Power supply died)
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The main differences: 3700 vs Z (5600) vs 3500 vs Z 5500 RAM: 128 / 32 / 128 / 64 (default 32 usable) Proc: all but 5600 have 206MHz Strongarm (5600=400MHz Xscale*) ROM: 32 / 64 / 32 / 16 (by default it is real rom) Expand: CF,MMC / CF,SD / MMC / CF,SD Price: 500 / 450 / 450 / 200
*note: Xscale had a big cache bug for a while, which means that either you lose speed or you potentially lose stability. PXA250 has it, PXA255 doesn't, and with the bug (and correction is to turn off most on-cpu cache), a 206MHz StrongARM is often as fast as a 400MHz Xscale, or so I am told.
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1) keyboard does have a | (fn or shift + space) 2) the memory model has much improved. I will say I use Openzaurus(.org) for the ROM, but the new sharp rom does a lot of the same things. (of course if linux does run out of RAM+swap, it kills it just as dead)
Hardware support was spotty, however unless you are getting something wierd, the hardware is generally supported in OpenZaurus (or you can likely find it for the sharp rom)
5000D or 5500? I didn't get a 5000D, but the original software on it was, well.... BAD. But alot of it got fixed in the original version (not release of the) 5500 rom, and most that didn't get fixed in the 5500 versions up to 2.38/39 got fixed in the v3.1 rom.
Your second arguement doesn't make any sense. Show me any major OSS program that will not run on say Alphas because of pointer arithmatic, excluding Star/Open Office. (The reason for that is that they did do stupid things like that, and to get even a "64-bit" SPARC version, they had to do essentially the same thing Microsoft did on Windows NT for Alpha-clip it to 32-bits.)
The last program I had trouble of that sort was KDE 2.0-beta3 (may have been fixed anywhere from beta3-beta5) (and that may have been something else, as it was a wierd bug, because all the people I knew who had the problem (very limited set) all had alphas, and I didn't check or know anyone who checked on other archs)
Would all of you that make that arguement either 1-tell people their programming sucks, to the specific project, or more politely file a bug report. 2-stop with this linux/gcc/oss-in-general isn't 64-bit ready.
And if you want a time from when linux was 64-bit ready, look up a 533MHz Alpha's release date, and add about a year.(likely less, to determine how long I have been using a 64-bit ready linux)
Now, endianness may be a problem, or a cruddy instruction set, but don't confuse IA-64 or x86-64 as being the first 64-bit chips, and if you are going to argue that pointer arithmatic is problematic, then cite an example!
There is the fear that there can be backdoors in proprietary software. (I don't know if it is done but If the NSA has the power to, and doesn't either they are actually following rules that were in place a while back, they don't have the power to, or are stupid. My guess is that they do have deals about that.)
At a local university, I have contact with a student group, with about 20+ (not much more than that), and recently due to the fact that if money is not spent, it is lost to the organization, the president wanted to get Adobe's PDF generator. (about 200 dollars) The reason? It had one feature, either not present or which had not been found, which was not needed (User Editable PDFs (sort of a 'cool I could do this, but I don't need to.')), and the allocated money (to the student organization) didn't have something that it needed spending on.
This pisses me off (The software was not bought) However, the attitude is unfortuantely rather commonplace. I have money, so I spend it, if I need to or not.
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The Caldera/Microsoft suit dealt with drdos being able to compete with msdos ( a good summary is here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/02/07 /schulman.html)
You must think they are crazy if they are one of 2 companies providing 54% or so of SCO/Caldera's revenue (#2 is Sun, I think I can guess who #1 is)
Sure...
Though they are definatly more cozy than I would like to be for my public image.
hmm... sounds like something incredibly easy to implement via samba on openvms (just a wrapper, because openvms does this. (frankly linux AND windows need to catch up to this feature, which is built-in, and limited only by disk space.
I just got back from a weekend retreat, but I have written a script/gui for doing this, and it works fine in production (where the people know what they are doing) but the setup is pretty automatic, and the gui (based on kommander (part of quanta atm)) allows a simple gui interface to the setup, which should all work, but as I said I need people to play with it and break things!
It should work for gentoo and redhat, atm.
sloppyadm.sourceforge.net if you are interested in helping.
Ummm...SCO IS Caldera, and Tarantula (sp?) is the old SCO who sold most of their UNIX stuff to Caldera, then changed their name. Caldera then changed their name to SCO and proceded to show why UNIX venders named SCO are not looked upon kindly.
portage leaves stuff lying around, but in constant places. /usr/portage/distfiles stores downloaded source packages, and /var/tmp/portage stores the build directories. if you don't care to have that laying around just do (rm -f /usr/portage/distfiles (-r is not a good idea as there is a cvs-src dir under there) and rm -rf /var/tmp/portage/*. This will free up some space (doing this on my laptop takes the usage down to 2.9GB)
Admittedly you will have the "-dev" stuff around, but just headers and such mostly, and by using USE flags, you should be able to eliminate any dependancies you don't need (for example: ldap, cups, samba, etc)
All depends on how you configure it (that goes for any distro, but gentoo is easier to configure than most in my experence)
Theoretically IA-64 will be getting this (and I will believe it when I see one. (and given how Intel keeps it's IA-64 related schedules I'll say 2032 perhaps)
Damn Compaq for not letting us have alphas that way (The first mention of it being serious was alphas-just before compaq bought them and decided to milk the alpha users)
Then you would be wrong, realplayer used to be distributed in some linux distros,I can directly recall that Caldera (and I seem to recall others) who bundled it. And as an example: netscape (pre-mozilla ver 4 era) was almost universally bundled.
And you can get real player for linux from their site (last I checked realone was beta for linux)>
Not that I like realplayer or netscape 4 (I was forced to use 4.79 for about 3.5 weeks while in Germany, which makes me like almost every browser I have used since then even better (mozilla, netscape6+, konq (ver 1x-current), IE5+, opera, links, elinks, lynx, even amaya :) (but not mosaic).)
I am now in the process of building everything with it (O3 does little more than -finline-functions, (and I other thng I can't recall over the top of my head) over O2, and Os is O2 minus a few that bloat code size, and some optimizations to make it smaller. Which means less cache misses hopefully, and possibly faster. (It certainly feels faster than a p2-400 I have used with O3)
I don't know. :)
It should be just the same. OPIE is a fork of Qtopia (QT/Embedded ... many other names), and one of the goals is binary compatibility. I believe that OpenZaurus (which primarily uses OPIE) has the same package as qtopia, probably a bit newer and built from source.
prelink can help with this. google for it and you should find out about it or look on gentoo.org under the docs section. Prelink support is built into portage :)
Disabling SSID essentially only means that 100% listeners can't see it if someone isn't using it. However if someone is, then they can. SSID and WEP really have some big security holes. IPsec is very good compared to it. For SSID, if someone sees you (re)connect once it's lost, and can lead to breaking wep quite easily.
Mulit-function: I have a zaurus, I have a mp3-cd player I used to use, now I use the zaurus. The Zaurus (one of the most expandable, and when it was released, nothing in the price range was as expandable with sd for memory and cf for any cf card) replaced the mp3-cd because the 128MB cf cards are easy to carry around. The cd player relatively is not, and it only does one thing. The CF cards while compared to the hard drives, are multi-function. Video, on the zaurus looks quite good, and using mplayer (which was the first available mpeg4 player on Z (first on there by me (plus all the mplayer & ffmpeg coders, now by others (Denes)) and they fit on the CF. The problem with the hard drive is that it's non-removable, and it eats up battery life compared to flash. The ipod has a pretty low power, non-powerful processor in it, and a low power simple display. Even with say sharp's new lcd technology, and a very low power proc, those two things eat a large amount of battery, and I suspect that to have the hard drive and anything worthwhile in terms of battery life you would need something the size of a brick, at least. Especially when viewing video (depending on things, a Zaurus 5500 may get 1-2 hours on video)
If SCO had this amendment (which Novell apparently doesn't atm) then WHY WERE THEY ASKING NOVELL FOR COPYRIGHT RECENTLY?
Novel and SCO both seem to have forgoten about it, and/or something screwy is going on.
his contributions to legislation
He seems to be quite good, and in many ways opposite certain cenators such as Hollings. (doesn't mean I think hes the greatest at all, but from our evolution-not-required state, certainly beats some states.)
Which hopefully is SCO's case... lots of bright hot air, and then something that goes whoosh.
The setup is being worked on as is a kommander based GUI (using ssh, so it can be run on a workstation)
Unfortunately, the machine I usually work on it on is out for the momement (Power supply died)
The main differences:
3700 vs Z (5600) vs 3500 vs Z 5500
RAM: 128 / 32 / 128 / 64 (default 32 usable)
Proc: all but 5600 have 206MHz Strongarm (5600=400MHz Xscale*)
ROM: 32 / 64 / 32 / 16 (by default it is real rom)
Expand: CF,MMC / CF,SD / MMC / CF,SD
Price: 500 / 450 / 450 / 200
*note: Xscale had a big cache bug for a while, which means that either you lose speed or you potentially lose stability. PXA250 has it, PXA255 doesn't, and with the bug (and correction is to turn off most on-cpu cache), a 206MHz StrongARM is often as fast as a 400MHz Xscale, or so I am told.
1) keyboard does have a | (fn or shift + space)
2) the memory model has much improved. I will say I use Openzaurus(.org) for the ROM, but the new sharp rom does a lot of the same things. (of course if linux does run out of RAM+swap, it kills it just as dead)
Hardware support was spotty, however unless you are getting something wierd, the hardware is generally supported in OpenZaurus (or you can likely find it for the sharp rom)
5000D or 5500? I didn't get a 5000D, but the original software on it was, well.... BAD. But alot of it got fixed in the original version (not release of the) 5500 rom, and most that didn't get fixed in the 5500 versions up to 2.38/39 got fixed in the v3.1 rom.
The last program I had trouble of that sort was KDE 2.0-beta3 (may have been fixed anywhere from beta3-beta5) (and that may have been something else, as it was a wierd bug, because all the people I knew who had the problem (very limited set) all had alphas, and I didn't check or know anyone who checked on other archs)
Would all of you that make that arguement either 1-tell people their programming sucks, to the specific project, or more politely file a bug report. 2-stop with this linux/gcc/oss-in-general isn't 64-bit ready.
And if you want a time from when linux was 64-bit ready, look up a 533MHz Alpha's release date, and add about a year.(likely less, to determine how long I have been using a 64-bit ready linux)
Now, endianness may be a problem, or a cruddy instruction set, but don't confuse IA-64 or x86-64 as being the first 64-bit chips, and if you are going to argue that pointer arithmatic is problematic, then cite an example!
end rant on that subject
but it can be made to do it using a patch, see the contrubutions on openmosix.org
There is the fear that there can be backdoors in proprietary software. (I don't know if it is done but If the NSA has the power to, and doesn't either they are actually following rules that were in place a while back, they don't have the power to, or are stupid. My guess is that they do have deals about that.)
At a local university, I have contact with a student group, with about 20+ (not much more than that), and recently due to the fact that if money is not spent, it is lost to the organization, the president wanted to get Adobe's PDF generator. (about 200 dollars) The reason? It had one feature, either not present or which had not been found, which was not needed (User Editable PDFs (sort of a 'cool I could do this, but I don't need to.')), and the allocated money (to the student organization) didn't have something that it needed spending on.
This pisses me off (The software was not bought) However, the attitude is unfortuantely rather commonplace. I have money, so I spend it, if I need to or not.