I believe that is a different market altogether... the HP T5700 come installed with Windows XPe... this is an OS made specifically for thin clients of the variety you speak of... which come with hardly any components at all... USB slots, a sound card, Parallel port, and some flash RAM/ROM... if you want a CD-ROM you buy an HP specific CD-ROM Dock that is supported by the OS... certain USB printers don't even work on the thin clients...
This new OS will be used to convert old PC's (like your PII 333's) into thin client like devices... these machines weren't originally designed for thin client use... and so it will have to have XP's expanded device driver list in order to support all the myriad of different things PC's can have as components...
You can't just buy Windows XPe to install on something... unless you're OEM planning to create hardware yourself.
This is for the regular joe administrators and small businesses with aging hardware that can still be put to use as thin clients while they spend their money upgrading their TS box.
I've found that Mambo is a quick way to put up a very nice and robust database driven site that also uses PHP... Do we really need to reinvent the wheel?
I was just reading about a possible business idea using do it yourself home security kits on Business 2.0... Perhaps this could be used for such a system if someone wsa willing to start it up?
I don't think that's the point... there are other laws as well that aren't the same as the states. For example here in Canada you are allowed to download MP3's... just not upload them...
But if US law took priority we'd be extraditing lots of Canadians to be tried in US courts for copyright infringment even though it's perfectly legal here in Canada...
Or something totaly different... it's legal to smoke pot here in Canada... if US law took priority then we'd be extradited to the US for enjoying a bud...
Different countries different laws... why should we be arrested and extradited for laws of other countries if we broke none in our own? (And have never stepped foot in the other country even) That would be like arresting all those downloading pr0n and extraditing them to Iran or something because it violates Islamic laws of decency...
It is a great account for your junk mail! Then again so is Yahoo... but hotmail was the first I believe =)
It is also my first email account (got it in 96) and so now people can still contact me after I've moved around the world.
When a service like Hotmail and MSN go down for a few hours it affects ALOT (millions) of people... nerd included... why shouldn't it be on the frontpage? I know I was interested enough to click on the articles (though I agree they are sparse on details)
I seriously didn't know Hotmail was down. I had users asking me why it was down and I thought it may have been our connection. It's actually of some relief to know it was a technical problem on Microsoft's end... and I would not have found out about it if not for Slashdot...
So it's not necessarily a "petty" thing as a "nice to know" thing... like all other slashdot stories... you are within your rights to refrain from reading the articles... no need to get grouchy if an article doesn't suit your taste. JUST DON'T READ IT! =P
Take a page from Macromedia or Google...
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I believe they should take a page from Macromedia. Make is super easy to download and install the ALWAYS FREE player (Flash, Shockwave,etc)... but just make great developer products or serverside streaming components... let the websites themselves that want to charge for content do it... and you charge them a commercial license for the privelege.
I mean they should charge those who plan to make money off using the "REAL" product... not the other way around. (Like the example of them PAYING for rights to MLB to stream their content and selling it to consumers... when they consumers get those live games basically free on TV... let MLB buy your server side applications and let them handle subscriptions if they want to charge for it)
It doesn't make sense to charge the consumer for this "ultra-nifty" player with "premium" content because consumers can get essentially the same thing free of charge... (so who will buy it just to listen to streaming audio?! or even video?)
meanwhile if you make it easier for developers of content to publish their stuff... maybe have more intuitive tools for doing all things audio and video... perhaps even an appliance like google has for search which can automatically find all audio and video content on your site to encode and stream it? I just think the "paying for a player model" is going to go the way of "paying for a browser" model... and you saw where Netscape went...
Is that $23.7 Million the special deal they recieved from Microsoft? (So that if they didn't make a fuss it would be much larger? Like 50 million?)
If it is a special deal I would look at the future when MS again pulls the same stunt, but this time there are no concessions... so in fact you save on the conversion for the future... I'm just suprised it would even cost that much per desktop to switch to a Microsoft solution... I mean windows to windows... you'd think MS could supply it for almost the cost of the OS =) (Meanwhile it's $1700 per system?)
In the long run I believe Munich will save money... I mean you don't have to pay the cost of Microsoft Office every couple of years (97,2000,XP,2003) which per workstation works out to quite a few bucks... and the cost in man hours to actually upgrade them all... and the cost of maintenance when a new vulnerability comes out every few weeks...
Basically with the Linux solution they upgrade when they require not at the call and beckoning of a monopoly... I just wish more governments were doing so
I come from Canada as well and I find it very interesting that not one person has actually stated what HMO stands for... Health Maintenance Organization...
I also find it funny the American comments on the Canadian Health Care system... I actually work for the local Health and Social Services department... and while it's true there is a list of approved drugs (the drug formulary)... the doctor gets to ultimately recommend whatever they feel is in the best interest of the patient... because in many cases the doctors here are on salary and there isn't such a thing as HMO's (who because of the profit motive may give incentives to docs to prescribe the cheapest procedures and drugs... that may not be in the best interest of the patient)
I do not believe we have a direct counter part here in Canada for HMO... you could argue the government... but then don't the US state governments also set drug formularies and such? (I mean you can't just approve any old drug... FDA process and all right?)
So can anyone actually explain to this canuck what an HMO is? I have the impression it's an organization with a profit motive... and from what I recall what saves money is not necessarily in the best interest of the patient...
And they are also markets that are already highly entrenched with automobiles just like the other developed markets! Only a newly developing city could adopt these things en masse... but those places do not have the per capita income to buy such extravagant devices...
Granted a 25% increase in price for a 5% increase in speed sounds ridiculous... and yes a whole farm of 1.33Ghz will be better than one lonely 1.4Ghz... but you're making up 6 seconds on a 4 minute compile so a minute and a half in an hour... now think of a whole farm of 1.4Ghz rendering Toy story and how much time you save.
The other thing I wanted to get into was the monitor debate... granted it may not be worth it to you to have a screen that has one inch more viewable area... but an inch is quite noticeable(hold the smirks)... and it is altogether different from the processor debate... monitors take quite a lot longer to go obsolete... heck I'm still using my good ol' 17" monitor from 5 years ago, meanwhile processors are obsolete within 18 months.
No I taped the show because I had to go out for dinner that night... the scene was shot and he had the knife to her throat and kissed her... then he was called to the room to be reprimanded.
First we don't wish to meddle in EVERY country's business... unlike the US of A, Canada is known for it's peace keepers... we try to stop wars not start them. We don't have the egotistical view that western culture is the only culture... nor is the "American Way" the only way... that is also why we are a multicultural mosaic instead of a "melting pot". We won the only war that was fought within our borders... but mostly we are not a warring nation... we don't practice the imperialistic ideals that statements such as the one above me tout.
We do however protest when we are mistreated... but more to make a point than to necessarily make a quick buck... we do laugh at your class action lawsuits which do nothing but enrichen the lawyers who thought of them... we laugh at your pick of president and how he won with such a small margin of error because his brother was the senator of the state... though we also feel sorry for you as well having such a winner takes all political system... but that is also a reflection of your society... never searching for the win-win.
That's enough ranting for me now... I support this judge and her actions because I know I've had trouble with cable internet, in fact a few times I thought I should setup a dial-up account for all the time that the service is down and it does literally take weeks for someone to repair it... then they won't reimburse you unless you hound them... and even if I don't have the money, the time or the guts to go up against big corporate power... I understand her motivations and her frustrations and fully support her stance.
I wrangled with this myself... the only way I could resolve the time travel thing is that they are actually alternate dimensions... where the Janeway from a different dimension and time goes to a parallel but different dimension that is farther back in time... if one thinks of time as just a bunch of frames that are all there at the same time... and that time is just an illusion... this may make sense... at least to me...
Addbo
Actually this would be useful to test how applications that are supposed to be deployed over a WAN will work with high latency as well as low bandwidth(what runs on 10/100 ethernet may not necessarily run over a high latency satellite link)
addbo
OODBMS's promised to be the holy grail... a revolution as big as relational algebra for the database realm... current implementations of OODBMS's have certain diffieciencies(sp?)... from what I've seen these diffieciencies may soon be solved... but a major drawback is the loss of the set at a time data manipulation capability that can be had in RDBMS's... that could be due to the way we view OODBMS's or maybe the fact we don't yet have a language that properly defines all the data manipulation and/or data definition.
There was recently some research I read done by a grad student at the University of Alberta in Edmonton... it was his disseratation actually... in it he defines a "type system for an object oriented database programming language"
link can be had here:
http://www.ualberta.ca/ExpressNews/news/2001/02140 1.htm
his personal webpage here along with the link to his dissertation:
http://web.cs.ualberta.ca/~yuri/
It is a 247 page disseratation so if you thought the parent article was long... then you probably don't want to tackle this... but it is quite interesting...
addbo
http://www.asp101.com/articles/jacob/scriptupload. asp
There is an example of a pure ASP fileupload ! =)
It gives you a nice step by step with the code...
hope that helps
addbo
Just wondering what the implications are of introducing some of these bacteria used to find toxic plumes and such into a foriegn environment?
Will they take over and the landscape will glow with a scary luminescient? (Sp?) And I wonder what would happen to the ecosystem... will it become imbalanced? Then again I'm guessing a toxic plume would be pretty harmful to the environment as it is... but if we deployed bacteria by the billions over a large area just to check for the presence of some toxic substance...
Anyways just a thought...
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I believe that is a different market altogether... the HP T5700 come installed with Windows XPe... this is an OS made specifically for thin clients of the variety you speak of... which come with hardly any components at all... USB slots, a sound card, Parallel port, and some flash RAM/ROM... if you want a CD-ROM you buy an HP specific CD-ROM Dock that is supported by the OS... certain USB printers don't even work on the thin clients...
This new OS will be used to convert old PC's (like your PII 333's) into thin client like devices... these machines weren't originally designed for thin client use... and so it will have to have XP's expanded device driver list in order to support all the myriad of different things PC's can have as components...
You can't just buy Windows XPe to install on something... unless you're OEM planning to create hardware yourself.
This is for the regular joe administrators and small businesses with aging hardware that can still be put to use as thin clients while they spend their money upgrading their TS box.
I've found that Mambo is a quick way to put up a very nice and robust database driven site that also uses PHP... Do we really need to reinvent the wheel?
Well considering to take a cruise you could spend $50K... I don't think $100K for orbital flight is that expensive...
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Uhm...hotmail started in 1996...
http://www.dfj.com/files/viralmarketing.html
How'd you get an account before then?
I've had my account since November 1996... back before Microsoft had taken over... it was actually my first email account... it is STILL at 2MB...
Of course you're assuming he isn't Thai himself... or that there is such a thing as race...
I was just reading about a possible business idea using do it yourself home security kits on Business 2.0... Perhaps this could be used for such a system if someone wsa willing to start it up?
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I know I'm feeling dirty =)
I don't think that's the point... there are other laws as well that aren't the same as the states. For example here in Canada you are allowed to download MP3's... just not upload them...
But if US law took priority we'd be extraditing lots of Canadians to be tried in US courts for copyright infringment even though it's perfectly legal here in Canada...
Or something totaly different... it's legal to smoke pot here in Canada... if US law took priority then we'd be extradited to the US for enjoying a bud...
Different countries different laws... why should we be arrested and extradited for laws of other countries if we broke none in our own? (And have never stepped foot in the other country even) That would be like arresting all those downloading pr0n and extraditing them to Iran or something because it violates Islamic laws of decency...
Just my two cents...
Addbo
It is a great account for your junk mail! Then again so is Yahoo... but hotmail was the first I believe =)
It is also my first email account (got it in 96) and so now people can still contact me after I've moved around the world.
When a service like Hotmail and MSN go down for a few hours it affects ALOT (millions) of people... nerd included... why shouldn't it be on the frontpage? I know I was interested enough to click on the articles (though I agree they are sparse on details)
Addbo
I seriously didn't know Hotmail was down. I had users asking me why it was down and I thought it may have been our connection. It's actually of some relief to know it was a technical problem on Microsoft's end... and I would not have found out about it if not for Slashdot...
So it's not necessarily a "petty" thing as a "nice to know" thing... like all other slashdot stories... you are within your rights to refrain from reading the articles... no need to get grouchy if an article doesn't suit your taste. JUST DON'T READ IT! =P
Addbo
Er... don't they have to be already anyways?
Addbo
I believe they should take a page from Macromedia. Make is super easy to download and install the ALWAYS FREE player (Flash, Shockwave,etc) ... but just make great developer products or serverside streaming components... let the websites themselves that want to charge for content do it... and you charge them a commercial license for the privelege.
I mean they should charge those who plan to make money off using the "REAL" product... not the other way around. (Like the example of them PAYING for rights to MLB to stream their content and selling it to consumers... when they consumers get those live games basically free on TV... let MLB buy your server side applications and let them handle subscriptions if they want to charge for it)
It doesn't make sense to charge the consumer for this "ultra-nifty" player with "premium" content because consumers can get essentially the same thing free of charge... (so who will buy it just to listen to streaming audio?! or even video?)
meanwhile if you make it easier for developers of content to publish their stuff... maybe have more intuitive tools for doing all things audio and video... perhaps even an appliance like google has for search which can automatically find all audio and video content on your site to encode and stream it? I just think the "paying for a player model" is going to go the way of "paying for a browser" model... and you saw where Netscape went...
But in chinese Gender is already part of the status... goh is older brother, mui is younger sister... gender is already denoted...
So in both cases(English and Chinese) I would think you should already know of the gender...
Is that $23.7 Million the special deal they recieved from Microsoft? (So that if they didn't make a fuss it would be much larger? Like 50 million?)
If it is a special deal I would look at the future when MS again pulls the same stunt, but this time there are no concessions... so in fact you save on the conversion for the future... I'm just suprised it would even cost that much per desktop to switch to a Microsoft solution... I mean windows to windows... you'd think MS could supply it for almost the cost of the OS =) (Meanwhile it's $1700 per system?)
In the long run I believe Munich will save money... I mean you don't have to pay the cost of Microsoft Office every couple of years (97,2000,XP,2003) which per workstation works out to quite a few bucks... and the cost in man hours to actually upgrade them all... and the cost of maintenance when a new vulnerability comes out every few weeks...
Basically with the Linux solution they upgrade when they require not at the call and beckoning of a monopoly... I just wish more governments were doing so
I come from Canada as well and I find it very interesting that not one person has actually stated what HMO stands for... Health Maintenance Organization...
I also find it funny the American comments on the Canadian Health Care system... I actually work for the local Health and Social Services department... and while it's true there is a list of approved drugs (the drug formulary)... the doctor gets to ultimately recommend whatever they feel is in the best interest of the patient... because in many cases the doctors here are on salary and there isn't such a thing as HMO's (who because of the profit motive may give incentives to docs to prescribe the cheapest procedures and drugs... that may not be in the best interest of the patient)
I do not believe we have a direct counter part here in Canada for HMO... you could argue the government... but then don't the US state governments also set drug formularies and such? (I mean you can't just approve any old drug... FDA process and all right?)
So can anyone actually explain to this canuck what an HMO is? I have the impression it's an organization with a profit motive... and from what I recall what saves money is not necessarily in the best interest of the patient...
And they are also markets that are already highly entrenched with automobiles just like the other developed markets! Only a newly developing city could adopt these things en masse... but those places do not have the per capita income to buy such extravagant devices...
Granted a 25% increase in price for a 5% increase in speed sounds ridiculous... and yes a whole farm of 1.33Ghz will be better than one lonely 1.4Ghz... but you're making up 6 seconds on a 4 minute compile so a minute and a half in an hour... now think of a whole farm of 1.4Ghz rendering Toy story and how much time you save. The other thing I wanted to get into was the monitor debate... granted it may not be worth it to you to have a screen that has one inch more viewable area... but an inch is quite noticeable(hold the smirks)... and it is altogether different from the processor debate... monitors take quite a lot longer to go obsolete... heck I'm still using my good ol' 17" monitor from 5 years ago, meanwhile processors are obsolete within 18 months.
No I taped the show because I had to go out for dinner that night... the scene was shot and he had the knife to her throat and kissed her ... then he was called to the room to be reprimanded.
First we don't wish to meddle in EVERY country's business... unlike the US of A, Canada is known for it's peace keepers... we try to stop wars not start them. We don't have the egotistical view that western culture is the only culture... nor is the "American Way" the only way... that is also why we are a multicultural mosaic instead of a "melting pot". We won the only war that was fought within our borders ... but mostly we are not a warring nation... we don't practice the imperialistic ideals that statements such as the one above me tout.
We do however protest when we are mistreated... but more to make a point than to necessarily make a quick buck... we do laugh at your class action lawsuits which do nothing but enrichen the lawyers who thought of them... we laugh at your pick of president and how he won with such a small margin of error because his brother was the senator of the state... though we also feel sorry for you as well having such a winner takes all political system... but that is also a reflection of your society... never searching for the win-win.
That's enough ranting for me now... I support this judge and her actions because I know I've had trouble with cable internet, in fact a few times I thought I should setup a dial-up account for all the time that the service is down and it does literally take weeks for someone to repair it... then they won't reimburse you unless you hound them... and even if I don't have the money, the time or the guts to go up against big corporate power... I understand her motivations and her frustrations and fully support her stance.
I wrangled with this myself... the only way I could resolve the time travel thing is that they are actually alternate dimensions... where the Janeway from a different dimension and time goes to a parallel but different dimension that is farther back in time... if one thinks of time as just a bunch of frames that are all there at the same time... and that time is just an illusion... this may make sense... at least to me... Addbo
Actually this would be useful to test how applications that are supposed to be deployed over a WAN will work with high latency as well as low bandwidth(what runs on 10/100 ethernet may not necessarily run over a high latency satellite link) addbo
OODBMS's promised to be the holy grail... a revolution as big as relational algebra for the database realm... current implementations of OODBMS's have certain diffieciencies(sp?)... from what I've seen these diffieciencies may soon be solved... but a major drawback is the loss of the set at a time data manipulation capability that can be had in RDBMS's... that could be due to the way we view OODBMS's or maybe the fact we don't yet have a language that properly defines all the data manipulation and/or data definition. There was recently some research I read done by a grad student at the University of Alberta in Edmonton... it was his disseratation actually... in it he defines a "type system for an object oriented database programming language" link can be had here: http://www.ualberta.ca/ExpressNews/news/2001/02140 1.htm
his personal webpage here along with the link to his dissertation:
http://web.cs.ualberta.ca/~yuri/
It is a 247 page disseratation so if you thought the parent article was long... then you probably don't want to tackle this... but it is quite interesting...
addbo
http://www.asp101.com/articles/jacob/scriptupload. asp
There is an example of a pure ASP fileupload ! =)
It gives you a nice step by step with the code...
hope that helps
addbo
Just wondering what the implications are of introducing some of these bacteria used to find toxic plumes and such into a foriegn environment? Will they take over and the landscape will glow with a scary luminescient? (Sp?) And I wonder what would happen to the ecosystem... will it become imbalanced? Then again I'm guessing a toxic plume would be pretty harmful to the environment as it is... but if we deployed bacteria by the billions over a large area just to check for the presence of some toxic substance... Anyways just a thought...