Yah, it's funny how their stock keeps trading at the rate of millions of shares a day (around $.02 - a true penny stock!) but if you look at their 8K or even their website it says:
"...Global Crossing does not contemplate participation of existing equity holders of the company in distributions to be made upon emergence from bankruptcy. "
So WTF are all these shares being bought/sold for?!? They are literally worthless!
Good point!
I guess I got a little past the scope of his question. Mod me Offtopic...:)
But since you seem to know the process, any recommendations on Open Source tools he could use?
Get what the QA people call a "fuzzer".
There's two general types (often bundled together with a few other things as a test suite).
The first generates random keystrokes and the second generates random data either completely randomly or following some set of guidelines (field length etc.)
It still won't do everything that exposure to the real world will, but it'll get you a lot closer!
Actually while the display terminals are often running Windows, a lot of the traffic control for trains runs on a combination of big iron for the back end, true embedded systems for data collection and control modules and finally OS/2 (sometimes as old as v1.0!) for signals aggregation and distribution between the two extremes.
The auto-checkout lanes at QFC and Safeway here in WA state are Linux.:)
Now for those who read that article, here's a reality check.
I worked on one of the Y2K project teams that did high-level analysis for a number of midwestern power plants.
I can tell you that NONE of their control and monitoring systems were in any way connected to the Internet or even, usually, to any other networks internally.
The reason cited in every case was security.
The folks I worked with are called EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) and they are widely regarded as the world's leading authority on national and international power generation and distribution systems.
Check out their website, they often have some interesting white-papers available for public perusal.
How do you "submit to Google" [obvious double entendre/sexual innuendo notwithstanding]?
Is there a form you can fill out...[snip]
At risk of responding to a troll (and getting modded Flamebait:)
If you go to the Google main page and click on "Services and Tools" (pretty logical so far) you'll find a link to a "Site Map".
And if you click on that you'll see a link to a submission form in the lower right-hand corner.
There, that wasn't so hard was it?
(In other news detailed instructions were given for nose-blowing and ass-wiping.)
It is a trivial task to discover any changes to the registry/hdd etc. with any of several tools designed for large-scale software rollouts which take binary "snapshots" and compare before and after.
The rest of that scheme can be bypassed very easily simply be running the installer through a debugger or ICE setup and/or running the final installation through the same.
The only way something like what you're suggesting would have a hope of working would be if the entire installation program and files were encrypted using a key unique to each package.
The installer then would consist of a huge "blob" with a tiny little front end that connected to the author's own server to do a challenge/response to get the key for that package.
Unfortunately all this does is shift the target to the author's own server which would be haxored in about 30 seconds and all his precious keys would flow out like blood on a digital battlefield.
Now, having said all this, the real flaw in his approach was not studying his market well enough and realising that he should have had a different product or different customers or both.
Good luck to ya buddy!
(Maybe with a little searching you'll run across one of those interview with Phil Katz, author of PKZip and owner of PKWare, where he moans about how tough it is in the shareware market!!!)
I agree completely. I had an interesting time recently wherein I had no less than four different employers in rapid succession over a span of less than two months.
But, , I not only didn't miss a paycheck, negotiating salary that many times netted me a 25% increase in pay!
(And no, I wasn't underpaid to start with).
Almost felt like the bubble days again...:)
RAID level numbers above 5 are arbitrary designations chosen by different manufacturers to define their own (non-standard) RAID implementations.
This is not to say there's anything wrong with them but please either describe the actual setup or give the manufacturer's name (and preferably a link to their own description:) if you want anyone to understand what you mean by "RAID 10" or "RAID 50".
Thanks!
As with any corp, not every HP product is great but their higher end business-class printers and multi-function machines are usually best-in-class.
I don't know anyone who's regretted going HP and I know a great many who have regretted going with other brands.
If you absolutely MUST use somebody else Lexmark and Canon sometimes have decent product.
No, it is not a comnon problem. You are just a very very dirty man. Please do not "ask slashdot" about your hygiene problems again.
I know the parent got modded as a troll and it could have been worded a little more kindly, but geez, it's true! As a consultant I've had thousands of client companies some with thousands of users and right now I'm working for an ~200 user company and I've never seen a dirty mouse wheel unless it was in an environment that was already pretty grubby (e.g. machine-shop).
So yeah, hand-washing or a new mouse, they're cheap!
The intelligence *agency* repeatedly told Bush not to rely on the information.
So his having an *agency* doesn't mean a damn thing if he flat out ignores the advice he receives!
That's not to say we didn't do the right thing, just for the wrong reasons. We should have made the move way back when in Desert Storm when we promised we would. (At the time we welched on that promise and got a lot of people killed).
But yeah, kudos to our troops. It's not their fault these decisions are being made the way they are...
Seems to me that if you had VNC in the startup for each session then you'd have different instantiations of VNC for each session. You'd need them on different ports of course but I don't see why that would be a problem.
The drawback to this of course would be that you couldn't get into the machine unless at least one session was already running (bye-bye remote reboots).
On the other hand you could have it start as a service and then just have a batch file or something that terminated the service on login so that the user-side copy of VNC could run.
You'd lose your connection as you logged in the very first time but you'd just reconnect and from there you'd be home free.
Unfortunately(?) I don't have a machine with XP.:) Anybody want to try it and post the results?
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Yah, it's funny how their stock keeps trading at the rate of millions of shares a day (around $.02 - a true penny stock!) but if you look at their 8K or even their website it says:
"...Global Crossing does not contemplate participation of existing equity holders of the company in distributions to be made upon emergence from bankruptcy. "
So WTF are all these shares being bought/sold for?!? They are literally worthless!
Good pics, thanks for the link!
Good point! :)
I guess I got a little past the scope of his question. Mod me Offtopic...
But since you seem to know the process, any recommendations on Open Source tools he could use?
Get what the QA people call a "fuzzer".
There's two general types (often bundled together with a few other things as a test suite).
The first generates random keystrokes and the second generates random data either completely randomly or following some set of guidelines (field length etc.)
It still won't do everything that exposure to the real world will, but it'll get you a lot closer!
Actually while the display terminals are often running Windows, a lot of the traffic control for trains runs on a combination of big iron for the back end, true embedded systems for data collection and control modules and finally OS/2 (sometimes as old as v1.0!) for signals aggregation and distribution between the two extremes.
The auto-checkout lanes at QFC and Safeway here in WA state are Linux. :)
Now for those who read that article, here's a reality check.
I worked on one of the Y2K project teams that did high-level analysis for a number of midwestern power plants.
I can tell you that NONE of their control and monitoring systems were in any way connected to the Internet or even, usually, to any other networks internally.
The reason cited in every case was security.
The folks I worked with are called EPRI (Electric Power Research Institute) and they are widely regarded as the world's leading authority on national and international power generation and distribution systems.
Check out their website, they often have some interesting white-papers available for public perusal.
Er, no, there is no submission link at the bottom of the home page. See my illuminating prose in this same thread for the real deal.
How do you "submit to Google" [obvious double entendre/sexual innuendo notwithstanding]?
:)
Is there a form you can fill out...[snip]
At risk of responding to a troll (and getting modded Flamebait
If you go to the Google main page and click on "Services and Tools" (pretty logical so far) you'll find a link to a "Site Map".
And if you click on that you'll see a link to a submission form in the lower right-hand corner.
There, that wasn't so hard was it?
(In other news detailed instructions were given for nose-blowing and ass-wiping.)
It is a trivial task to discover any changes to the registry/hdd etc. with any of several tools designed for large-scale software rollouts which take binary "snapshots" and compare before and after.
The rest of that scheme can be bypassed very easily simply be running the installer through a debugger or ICE setup and/or running the final installation through the same.
The only way something like what you're suggesting would have a hope of working would be if the entire installation program and files were encrypted using a key unique to each package.
The installer then would consist of a huge "blob" with a tiny little front end that connected to the author's own server to do a challenge/response to get the key for that package.
Unfortunately all this does is shift the target to the author's own server which would be haxored in about 30 seconds and all his precious keys would flow out like blood on a digital battlefield.
Now, having said all this, the real flaw in his approach was not studying his market well enough and realising that he should have had a different product or different customers or both.
Good luck to ya buddy!
(Maybe with a little searching you'll run across one of those interview with Phil Katz, author of PKZip and owner of PKWare, where he moans about how tough it is in the shareware market!!!)
Mod parent up as funny!!!
:)
Or maybe troll...
(If you don't get it, think about how thermal paper is printed, and how hot a laminator gets!
I agree completely. I had an interesting time recently wherein I had no less than four different employers in rapid succession over a span of less than two months. :)
But, , I not only didn't miss a paycheck, negotiating salary that many times netted me a 25% increase in pay!
(And no, I wasn't underpaid to start with).
Almost felt like the bubble days again...
I've never actually felt lust for a PC case before now...
RAID level numbers above 5 are arbitrary designations chosen by different manufacturers to define their own (non-standard) RAID implementations. :) if you want anyone to understand what you mean by "RAID 10" or "RAID 50".
This is not to say there's anything wrong with them but please either describe the actual setup or give the manufacturer's name (and preferably a link to their own description
Thanks!
As with any corp, not every HP product is great but their higher end business-class printers and multi-function machines are usually best-in-class.
I don't know anyone who's regretted going HP and I know a great many who have regretted going with other brands.
If you absolutely MUST use somebody else Lexmark and Canon sometimes have decent product.
only if the numbers appearing in those three sample paths (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,11, 21, 23, 26, etc) are evenly distributed
:)
You're assuming a representative sampling which this, by definition, is not.
Nice post but unfortunately based on insufficient data.
Amazing how many /.'ers dunno what 42 is. :)
It's the Answer to the Question...
...and blast away!
Just make sure it's the stuff that evaporates 100% or the problem will be worse.
No, it is not a comnon problem. You are just a very very dirty man. Please do not "ask slashdot" about your hygiene problems again.
I know the parent got modded as a troll and it could have been worded a little more kindly, but geez, it's true! As a consultant I've had thousands of client companies some with thousands of users and right now I'm working for an ~200 user company and I've never seen a dirty mouse wheel unless it was in an environment that was already pretty grubby (e.g. machine-shop).
So yeah, hand-washing or a new mouse, they're cheap!
In other words you don't want your fiber turning into "Raman noodles". :)
The intelligence *agency* repeatedly told Bush not to rely on the information.
So his having an *agency* doesn't mean a damn thing if he flat out ignores the advice he receives!
That's not to say we didn't do the right thing, just for the wrong reasons. We should have made the move way back when in Desert Storm when we promised we would. (At the time we welched on that promise and got a lot of people killed).
But yeah, kudos to our troops. It's not their fault these decisions are being made the way they are...
Sounds a lot like SecureEXE.
.02US = .02EU :)
Seems to me that if you had VNC in the startup for each session then you'd have different instantiations of VNC for each session. You'd need them on different ports of course but I don't see why that would be a problem. :) Anybody want to try it and post the results?
The drawback to this of course would be that you couldn't get into the machine unless at least one session was already running (bye-bye remote reboots).
On the other hand you could have it start as a service and then just have a batch file or something that terminated the service on login so that the user-side copy of VNC could run.
You'd lose your connection as you logged in the very first time but you'd just reconnect and from there you'd be home free.
Unfortunately(?) I don't have a machine with XP.
Heh-heh-heh!!!! :)
I had to chuckle reading that.
Doh! Just used my last mod points.
Somebody mod parent up! That's a heck of a good idea!