Actually, put the Kangaroo Mini Roast in the oven for almost an hour, and it's really tender. That said, it needs to be wrapped in aluminium foil to retain the juices. Well worth a try.
Also, in my experience frying roo, it's not usually much tougher than beef. Cut the roo into thinner slices before frying (on high heat) so the heat reaches in before the surface burns.
The first mistake with cooking roo is treating it like beef. It's a different meat, and requires different technique. With the right technique, it's no harder to cook than beef, just different.
"Human" is a type of animal that walks on it's hind legs and can pick things up with it's front "paws". Other animals that resemble humans are humanoid (a bit like saying "human-ish").
"Person" is some being that has a personality. In my understanding, a personality requires self awareness, unique character (behavioural habits) and a capacity for emotions (beyond the obvious instinctive). I would say that sufficient intelligence is required for self awareness, but not necessarily very much.
All mammals and birds that I've ever got to know (my own pets and friends' pets) have all had their own personality and feelings. But none of them were human. They were feline, canine, parrot, parakeet, rodent, etc. I have never observed personality in reptiles or fish. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but I personally believe their intelligence is below the threshold for self awareness.
Comparing personality with intelligence:
My cat is not a human. He is a cat. However...
My cat is a person, in that he clearly has self awareness and his own character and feelings.
Sure, he will never have the mental capacity to understand differential calculus or fine art. He understands very few spoken words and still struggles with the idea of backing away from a door that opens inwards.
But, we do communicate using body language. He tells me when he is hungry, or when he wants to go for a walk with me. He told me that the cat food I used to feed him tasted like shit, so now I only feed the spoilt cat fresh meat and fish. (Seriously, he sniffed the food, then stood over it and scratched the ground imitating the way he buries his poo. Then he walked past me conspicuously as if to say "just so you know". It was pretty bloody evident what he was saying.)
Also, anyone with higher lever pets knows that they have feelings/emotions. Aside from contentment, fear and hostility, higher level animals also can be sad, happy and genuinely caring.
Also, some mentally handicapped humans seem less intelligent than some non-humans (esp. dogs). But those humans are still thinking, feeling, self aware people, trapped in dysfunctional bodies.
The question is not whether "higher" animals have personality or feeling. They clearly do.
The question is where we put the threshold of "human rights". Should the threshold be put at "person rights"? Some other types of animals clearly possess good enough communication skills, caring, personality, intelligence and so on that they clearly qualify as people. But are we humans prepared to accept non-humans as equal status members into our elitist society? I doubt we're ready for that.
We are snobs (to put it bluntly). "We are the only ones worthy of our own respect because of our accomplishments and our ability to communicate with us." Perhaps that snobbery is warranted. Is it?
So, if we're not able to accept non-humans as equal to humans, then how far can we suppress other animals? Well, for starters, we are omnivores, so at least we should have the right to kill to eat. But at at he same time we can bear in mind that these are people (with self awareness and feelings), so we should not be unneccessarily cruel. Farming (a form of slavery) will have to be acceptable, as currently we have little other choice. But cruel farming is not neccessary and is should never be seen as acceptable.
Japanese farm cetaceans. Is that inherently wrong? I think that if we managed to communicate with cetaceans using their own languages, then peoples' attitudes would change. But killing to eat is a fundamental part of life on this planet, so... would it still be wrong to kill them?
Slaves were fully human, and humans already had "personhood".
True, but what GP says is also true.
This is not meant as a troll...
My grandmother from South Africa went to a town meeting (many decades ago). After the town meeting there was some socialising. One white woman had a proper conversation with a black woman for the very first time in her life... and ended up very shocked and traumatised. The black woman was talking about how she was worried that her son wasn't studying hard enough at school and other such things. Just like (shock, horror)... a real person... with feelings... caring about her son just like a real human mother! The white woman had never realised that black people are real people too, because she had never communicated properly with one before.
(I bet that changed her perception of the world a tad, eh?)
As unlikely as this may seem to us today, that was a very different time and very different setting.
It might even be possible that something else is happening, that witnesses misinterpret as ghosts.
So what could be causing these witness accounts? Who knows? But I'd sure like to know.
I actually believe that there are a few different (natural, but unexplored) fenomena that people report as "ghosts" or "angels".
Consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elmo's_fire.
But I think that not investigating until after one has a definition is a rather limiting approach to take.
How are you supposed to define something when you have no idea what it is?
wonders why so much evil comes from white people, why did they enjoyed torturing and murdering innocents and why they would segregate and continue to subjugate others
I can't imagine what it is like for German school children
One is only responsible for one's own actions.
One should remember that what those people did, was what they did.
It is just as wrong to blame decendants for something that their ancestors did (whether due to evil, mistakes, desperation or for whatever other reason), as it is to be racist.
As a society, we're reverting back to superstition
No, we never stopped being superstitious. We became less superstitious, as it seemed that everything could be explained with enough exploration.
And as some things remain unexplained, we start to explore them too.
Perhaps, we will eventually prove that it's all in the mind. Perhaps we will discover something else that we really didn't expect.
How on Earth is the believer going to be able to predict where the ghost will turn up next?!?
It would be like saying "So, you say you saw a burglar outside your window last night who left no trace? Well, tell us when you expect him to return.".
Just because you've never experienced it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
I'm not saying that ghosts exist.
I'm saying that it's not impossible that ghosts might exist, and that we simply haven't found a way to prove that yet.
It might even be possible that something else is happening, that witnesses misinterpret as ghosts.
How will we know without some serious open minded research? (Open minded enough to accept whatever the results may indicate.)
The only real problem I've had with Win 7 is the very limited view of apps in the start menu.
Yes, I've pinned the 10 most commonly used apps on the task bar. And that's enough. It's not reasonable to pin all commonly used apps onto the task bar, because then it would get too cluttered.
And it's a royal pain when the start menu enforces a tiny view of a very long list.
The surgeon has not slept all night and is scheduled to perform an elective colostomy at 9 a.m.
This really annoys me. Several of my relatives and and friends are medical doctors, and I see this as all too common.
Does the surgeon have an obligation to disclose to the patient the lack of sleep during the past 24 hours and obtain new informed consent?
This question should never come up because ideally the doctor shouldn't be rostered the morning after being on call in the first place!
In how many other jobs are people expected to work hours like these, and are then expected to perform well? You need to be able to think straight. And, it often really is quite literally a life and death situation.
The solution is quite simply to spread the work out to more doctors. But there is one big problem (at least in Australia):
There aren't enough doctors available to train more doctors and treat patients at the same time. So although government may promise more training positions, and people are waiting in line to become doctors, there isn't enough staff available to teach. (This in turn stems from a problem where medical positions were limited in number.)
But there also seems to be a mentality among management that says that you're not a serious doctor unless you're expected to work ridiculous hours. Although I don't think this applies to all specialties, it does seem to be pretty common. And it's quite unreasonable.
No! That is a point that many people in this discussion seem to be missing.
They didn't elect him because they think he is a grand guy.
They're not not ousting him because they accept him.
They're terrified of pissing him off even further.
just don't give a damn.
Oh, they do give a damn. But right now Zimbabwe is a state of fear (pun intended).
the single best test of "are they ready" is that they overthrow the tyrant
Really? So the fact that the people accepted the vote (fair or not) and the decision of the government to share power between the parties means they're not ready for democracy?
since the people aren't ready for Democracy, the result will just be the rise of a new tyrant
Tsvangarai doesn't seem to be a tyrant.
In order to bring down a government, you don't need to be democratic, you need to be organised.
But that's not always so easy. With a heartless iron hand hanging over them, they don't have the opportunity to act without paying with extreme tragedy. It might be better to wait for the old man to die. (If only he would die NOW! )
So even if the people are willing, and seem ready to accept an elected leader, they are also kept too weak to be able to rise up.
Perhaps their if Zimbabwe had oil, then it might already have been "liberated from the dictator". And I think Zimbabweans would much quicker accept a new democratic government than some middle eastern cultures.
Side note: Some old family friends live (lived?) in the south. They were poor enough as it was, and my parents used to send them clothes and other things until Mugabe started going crazy. But since then we've lost contact with them, and I can't visit them safely because I'm white and they live in the countryside. And I'd really like to see them again before it's too late. So yes, I do want that old fart Mugabe to just die, as soon as possible.
I would interpret them as...
"the dog needs walked" meaning the job should already have been completed, as in "the dog needs to be walked already"
whereas
"the dog needs to be walked" meaning the job will have to be completed at some point in the future, as in "the dog needs to have been walked soon".
Yeah, and that happes when power outages occur. I light a few candles and can see plenty well.
The problem is the food in the freezer possibly going off, and that I can't work on my laptop if the batteries are flat.
So yes, "There's more to electricity than lighting".
by disallowing them to use the massive amounts of coal under their feet, we're disallowing them to build infrastructure and means of production so that they can accumulate capital.
Bad idea for some obvious reasons and some not so obvious reasons, such as:
- To maintain infrastructure, you need social stability and other supporting infrastructure.
- To make use of infrastructure, you need a society ready to take advantage of that infrastructure.
- Various climate reasons
- Big business vs. little people. In less developed regions, the small people usually have very little say. This is the little people empowering themselves.
They need factories, not tea lights.
I'm not so sure about that. For the moment, cheap tea lights might be exactly what they need.
If they build huge power plants, then how will that power get distributed, with so little infrastructure and when people often live so spread out? Who is going to pay for the upkeep of that infrastructure?
But with solar panels running tea lights then (as others have already pointed out) power generation will be affordable and immediately usable in the coutryside, even for subsistence farmers.
One thing I'm waiting to see is if this is part of Africa's way to the future. What I mean is that late adopters of technology often end up using better or more suitable technology because they've skipped over intermediate stages by the time they enter and don't have to deal with legacy systems. (Example: PAL vs NTSC) This in itself may seem like nothing, but perhaps as Africa starts catching up in earnest, many parts may build upon distributed systems of renewable energy, as compared to the centralised systems that suit cities. I dunno. It's just a thought.
When you're on a country road (or in the suburbs at 2 o'clock on a Monday night) and a single car approaches from a distance, you usually hear the noise of the tyres, not the engines.
From many (most?) cars, the noise that really carries, is the noise of the tyres.
Now imagine the noise in a city where all vehicles are fully electric. You would actually hear the sound of tyres on the road so much better. In fact, you would hear everything else so much better too. Added noise from electric vehicles would not be necessary, as tyres might be the source of most noise anyway.
That said, there will still be decades of overlap from now until a time of only electric vehicles.
And as others here have already pointed out... look before you leap. (Applies to everyone involved in traffic.) As it is now, with all the noise, you can't rely on your ears to pick up the noise of that one car that is currently hurtling straight towards you. So I don't really see the need for added noise.
assuming of course they could even manufacture such notes in a cost effective and reliable manner. The US is already having problems printing its own money.
Google will need to be careful with this. At least Microsoft has made rules to reduce WP7 fragmentation. Google ought to do something similar for Android.
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Actually, put the Kangaroo Mini Roast in the oven for almost an hour, and it's really tender. That said, it needs to be wrapped in aluminium foil to retain the juices. Well worth a try.
Also, in my experience frying roo, it's not usually much tougher than beef. Cut the roo into thinner slices before frying (on high heat) so the heat reaches in before the surface burns.
The first mistake with cooking roo is treating it like beef. It's a different meat, and requires different technique. With the right technique, it's no harder to cook than beef, just different.
I think they meant K.I.T.T. which might explain why it was worth do much.
Sorry, I meant to say "eat", not "farm". My bad.
"Human" is a type of animal that walks on it's hind legs and can pick things up with it's front "paws". Other animals that resemble humans are humanoid (a bit like saying "human-ish").
"Person" is some being that has a personality. In my understanding, a personality requires self awareness, unique character (behavioural habits) and a capacity for emotions (beyond the obvious instinctive). I would say that sufficient intelligence is required for self awareness, but not necessarily very much.
All mammals and birds that I've ever got to know (my own pets and friends' pets) have all had their own personality and feelings. But none of them were human. They were feline, canine, parrot, parakeet, rodent, etc. I have never observed personality in reptiles or fish. That's not to say it doesn't exist, but I personally believe their intelligence is below the threshold for self awareness.
Comparing personality with intelligence:
My cat is not a human. He is a cat. However...
My cat is a person, in that he clearly has self awareness and his own character and feelings.
Sure, he will never have the mental capacity to understand differential calculus or fine art. He understands very few spoken words and still struggles with the idea of backing away from a door that opens inwards.
But, we do communicate using body language. He tells me when he is hungry, or when he wants to go for a walk with me. He told me that the cat food I used to feed him tasted like shit, so now I only feed the spoilt cat fresh meat and fish. (Seriously, he sniffed the food, then stood over it and scratched the ground imitating the way he buries his poo. Then he walked past me conspicuously as if to say "just so you know". It was pretty bloody evident what he was saying.)
Also, anyone with higher lever pets knows that they have feelings/emotions. Aside from contentment, fear and hostility, higher level animals also can be sad, happy and genuinely caring.
Also, some mentally handicapped humans seem less intelligent than some non-humans (esp. dogs). But those humans are still thinking, feeling, self aware people, trapped in dysfunctional bodies.
The question is not whether "higher" animals have personality or feeling. They clearly do.
The question is where we put the threshold of "human rights". Should the threshold be put at "person rights"? Some other types of animals clearly possess good enough communication skills, caring, personality, intelligence and so on that they clearly qualify as people. But are we humans prepared to accept non-humans as equal status members into our elitist society? I doubt we're ready for that.
We are snobs (to put it bluntly). "We are the only ones worthy of our own respect because of our accomplishments and our ability to communicate with us." Perhaps that snobbery is warranted. Is it?
So, if we're not able to accept non-humans as equal to humans, then how far can we suppress other animals? Well, for starters, we are omnivores, so at least we should have the right to kill to eat. But at at he same time we can bear in mind that these are people (with self awareness and feelings), so we should not be unneccessarily cruel. Farming (a form of slavery) will have to be acceptable, as currently we have little other choice. But cruel farming is not neccessary and is should never be seen as acceptable.
Japanese farm cetaceans. Is that inherently wrong? I think that if we managed to communicate with cetaceans using their own languages, then peoples' attitudes would change. But killing to eat is a fundamental part of life on this planet, so... would it still be wrong to kill them?
Slaves were fully human, and humans already had "personhood".
True, but what GP says is also true.
... a real person... with feelings... caring about her son just like a real human mother! The white woman had never realised that black people are real people too, because she had never communicated properly with one before.
This is not meant as a troll...
My grandmother from South Africa went to a town meeting (many decades ago). After the town meeting there was some socialising. One white woman had a proper conversation with a black woman for the very first time in her life... and ended up very shocked and traumatised. The black woman was talking about how she was worried that her son wasn't studying hard enough at school and other such things. Just like (shock, horror)
(I bet that changed her perception of the world a tad, eh?)
As unlikely as this may seem to us today, that was a very different time and very different setting.
It might even be possible that something else is happening, that witnesses misinterpret as ghosts.
So what could be causing these witness accounts? Who knows? But I'd sure like to know. .
I actually believe that there are a few different (natural, but unexplored) fenomena that people report as "ghosts" or "angels".
Consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Elmo's_fire
But I think that not investigating until after one has a definition is a rather limiting approach to take.
How are you supposed to define something when you have no idea what it is?
wonders why so much evil comes from white people, why did they enjoyed torturing and murdering innocents and why they would segregate and continue to subjugate others
I can't imagine what it is like for German school children
One is only responsible for one's own actions.
One should remember that what those people did, was what they did.
It is just as wrong to blame decendants for something that their ancestors did (whether due to evil, mistakes, desperation or for whatever other reason), as it is to be racist.
As a society, we're reverting back to superstition
No, we never stopped being superstitious. We became less superstitious, as it seemed that everything could be explained with enough exploration.
And as some things remain unexplained, we start to explore them too.
Perhaps, we will eventually prove that it's all in the mind. Perhaps we will discover something else that we really didn't expect.
Let's say the believer is telling the truth...
How on Earth is the believer going to be able to predict where the ghost will turn up next?!?
It would be like saying "So, you say you saw a burglar outside your window last night who left no trace? Well, tell us when you expect him to return.".
Just because you've never experienced it, does not mean it doesn't exist.
I'm not saying that ghosts exist.
I'm saying that it's not impossible that ghosts might exist, and that we simply haven't found a way to prove that yet.
It might even be possible that something else is happening, that witnesses misinterpret as ghosts.
How will we know without some serious open minded research? (Open minded enough to accept whatever the results may indicate.)
The only real problem I've had with Win 7 is the very limited view of apps in the start menu.
Yes, I've pinned the 10 most commonly used apps on the task bar. And that's enough. It's not reasonable to pin all commonly used apps onto the task bar, because then it would get too cluttered.
And it's a royal pain when the start menu enforces a tiny view of a very long list.
The solution?
I installed http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/ so I could get the full view of Programs.
Aside from that (and some small problems with file search) I quite like with Win7.
The surgeon has not slept all night and is scheduled to perform an elective colostomy at 9 a.m.
This really annoys me. Several of my relatives and and friends are medical doctors, and I see this as all too common.
Does the surgeon have an obligation to disclose to the patient the lack of sleep during the past 24 hours and obtain new informed consent?
This question should never come up because ideally the doctor shouldn't be rostered the morning after being on call in the first place!
In how many other jobs are people expected to work hours like these, and are then expected to perform well? You need to be able to think straight. And, it often really is quite literally a life and death situation.
The solution is quite simply to spread the work out to more doctors. But there is one big problem (at least in Australia):
There aren't enough doctors available to train more doctors and treat patients at the same time. So although government may promise more training positions, and people are waiting in line to become doctors, there isn't enough staff available to teach. (This in turn stems from a problem where medical positions were limited in number.)
But there also seems to be a mentality among management that says that you're not a serious doctor unless you're expected to work ridiculous hours. Although I don't think this applies to all specialties, it does seem to be pretty common. And it's quite unreasonable.
They either like Mugabe for some reason, or
Some like Mugabe, most do not.
he convinced them his oponent is worse, or
No! That is a point that many people in this discussion seem to be missing.
They didn't elect him because they think he is a grand guy.
They're not not ousting him because they accept him.
They're terrified of pissing him off even further.
just don't give a damn.
Oh, they do give a damn. But right now Zimbabwe is a state of fear (pun intended).
the single best test of "are they ready" is that they overthrow the tyrant
Really? So the fact that the people accepted the vote (fair or not) and the decision of the government to share power between the parties means they're not ready for democracy?
since the people aren't ready for Democracy, the result will just be the rise of a new tyrant
Tsvangarai doesn't seem to be a tyrant.
In order to bring down a government, you don't need to be democratic, you need to be organised.
But that's not always so easy. With a heartless iron hand hanging over them, they don't have the opportunity to act without paying with extreme tragedy. It might be better to wait for the old man to die. (If only he would die NOW! )
So even if the people are willing, and seem ready to accept an elected leader, they are also kept too weak to be able to rise up.
Perhaps their if Zimbabwe had oil, then it might already have been "liberated from the dictator". And I think Zimbabweans would much quicker accept a new democratic government than some middle eastern cultures.
Side note: Some old family friends live (lived?) in the south. They were poor enough as it was, and my parents used to send them clothes and other things until Mugabe started going crazy. But since then we've lost contact with them, and I can't visit them safely because I'm white and they live in the countryside. And I'd really like to see them again before it's too late. So yes, I do want that old fart Mugabe to just die, as soon as possible.
...unless you're a totally awsome person.
$1 billion investment
500,000 square foot facility
What is Apple up to with this huge facility?
It's obviously a cover for researching alien technology!
Wouldn't the two have subtly different meanings?
I would interpret them as...
"the dog needs walked" meaning the job should already have been completed, as in "the dog needs to be walked already"
whereas
"the dog needs to be walked" meaning the job will have to be completed at some point in the future, as in "the dog needs to have been walked soon".
Yeah, and that happes when power outages occur. I light a few candles and can see plenty well.
The problem is the food in the freezer possibly going off, and that I can't work on my laptop if the batteries are flat.
So yes, "There's more to electricity than lighting".
by disallowing them to use the massive amounts of coal under their feet, we're disallowing them to build infrastructure and means of production so that they can accumulate capital.
Bad idea for some obvious reasons and some not so obvious reasons, such as:
- To maintain infrastructure, you need social stability and other supporting infrastructure.
- To make use of infrastructure, you need a society ready to take advantage of that infrastructure.
- Various climate reasons
- Big business vs. little people. In less developed regions, the small people usually have very little say. This is the little people empowering themselves.
They need factories, not tea lights.
I'm not so sure about that. For the moment, cheap tea lights might be exactly what they need.
If they build huge power plants, then how will that power get distributed, with so little infrastructure and when people often live so spread out? Who is going to pay for the upkeep of that infrastructure?
But with solar panels running tea lights then (as others have already pointed out) power generation will be affordable and immediately usable in the coutryside, even for subsistence farmers.
One thing I'm waiting to see is if this is part of Africa's way to the future. What I mean is that late adopters of technology often end up using better or more suitable technology because they've skipped over intermediate stages by the time they enter and don't have to deal with legacy systems. (Example: PAL vs NTSC) This in itself may seem like nothing, but perhaps as Africa starts catching up in earnest, many parts may build upon distributed systems of renewable energy, as compared to the centralised systems that suit cities. I dunno. It's just a thought.
Microsoft would never do that, 'cos that would allow others to be more innovative.
Fighters of the future...
We use railguns to shoot them up.
We use railguns to shoot them down.
When you're on a country road (or in the suburbs at 2 o'clock on a Monday night) and a single car approaches from a distance, you usually hear the noise of the tyres, not the engines.
From many (most?) cars, the noise that really carries, is the noise of the tyres.
Now imagine the noise in a city where all vehicles are fully electric. You would actually hear the sound of tyres on the road so much better. In fact, you would hear everything else so much better too. Added noise from electric vehicles would not be necessary, as tyres might be the source of most noise anyway.
That said, there will still be decades of overlap from now until a time of only electric vehicles.
And as others here have already pointed out... look before you leap. (Applies to everyone involved in traffic.) As it is now, with all the noise, you can't rely on your ears to pick up the noise of that one car that is currently hurtling straight towards you. So I don't really see the need for added noise.
'Cos then there would be no excuse for inserting tracking circuitry when that tech would finally be ready? And now it's ready. ;)
assuming of course they could even manufacture such notes in a cost effective and reliable manner. The US is already having problems printing its own money.
Send the job to China.
Google will need to be careful with this. At least Microsoft has made rules to reduce WP7 fragmentation. Google ought to do something similar for Android.